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captioning sponsoredy newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, caucus chaos. after an almost 24 hour delay, finally a portion of the results in the iowa democratic presidential caucuses are in then... >> the senate has grappled with as grave a subject as we ever consider. a request from a majority in the house to remove the president. >> woodruff: ...on thef a vote likely to acquit president trump of charges of abuse of congress, he comes to the capitol to speak about the state of the union. and, outbreak. as the coronavirus continues tob spread, the financial fallout from this health emergency >> if china goes offline for any
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the delay came after what's being described as a "coding error" with a phone app used by more than 1700 caucus sites to report results. with 62% of precincts reporting: former south bend indiana mayor pete buttigieg holds a narrow lead over vermont senator bernie sanders. 26.9% to 25.1. they're followed by massachusetts senator elizabeth warren with about 18%, former vice president joe biden with about 15% and minnesota senator amy klobuchar with about 12%. no other candidate has double- digit support. john yang reports on the reason candidates respondhow the >> yg: the democratic presidential campaign shifted to new hampshire early this morning even as the results of the iowa
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a,ucuses remained a mystery. >> when i left i they said t it was stilloo close to call, and it still is, but i feel good. >> we had ourselves a night in iowa, no one knows t results still. >> of course, we don't know the results yet. minor problem! >> yang: iowa party officials blamed the lengthy delay on a "coding issue" with the app- based system intended to speed- up results reporting. they insisted the issue "did not impact the ability ... to report data accurately." >> we've been working day and night to make sure results accurate. underlying data is secure. was always secure. this was a coding area on one of the piece on the backend. but the raw data is secure, i can assure iowans of that. >> yang: in the absence of official numbers last night,ca
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mpaigns sought to define their performances on their own. vermont sebernie sanders: >> when those results are i announceave a good feeling we're going to be doing very,n very well herewa. >> yang: south bend indiana mayor pete buttigieg: >> we n't know all the sults, but we know by the time, 's all said and done, iowa you have shocked the nation. because by all indications, we are going on to new hampshire victorious. >> yang: former vice president joe biden. >> from our indications, it's going to be close. we're going to walk out of here with our shared delegates. we don't know exactly what it is yet, but we feel good about where we are. >> yang: the sanders and buttigieg campaigns released
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their own vote counts. and the biden campaign slammed wh it called "considerable flaws" and "acute failures" in the iowa party's system. president trump, who won iowa's republican caucus last night, called the democratic contest an "unmitigated disaster." the foul-up renewed questions about whether the iowa caucuses should remain "first in the tion." des moines businessowner amos cooper caucused last night for biden. >> the nation is not gonna continue to sit and accept a state that doesn't represent america. and they cant even count the votes.at >> yang: otherhis local coffee shop defended the state's role in the presidential nominating process. >> iowans are very knowledgeable about politics and follow candidates and are even though we may not be a cracked set, a crossection of every state, certainly. we still have well-educated in doing the best for the country.ha >> yang: in neshire, the
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race goes on. today, massachusetts senator elizabeth warren remained focuseon beating president trump. >> the way i'm gonna win is i'm going to unite our party because we have to have a united party. 16 can't have a repeat of >> yang: buttigieg confronted and sanders is to hold an even this evening responding to president trump's "state of the union" address. but former new york city mayor michael bloomberg issteeping to hitegy of bypassing the early contests. today, he was in michigan, where the march primary is one week after the delegate-rich "super tuesday." when nevada democrats caucus in about three weans, they were ng to use the same app that iowa used last night, but today they thought better of that and said they're changing vendor judy? >> woodruff: what a wild night and day, john yang john, tell us, what are the
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candidates today saying about all this? >> yang: well, as these numbers came out, both pete buttigieg and bernie sanders declared victory, looking at different sets of numbers. sanders ballyhooed the fact that he had more people who went t the caucuses and stood up for im, but buttigieg nted out that he was leading in what matters in caucuses, the number ofsdelegates he wa assigned. but these are sill preliminary a number the final numbers won't be out for some time. judy? >> woodruff: and, john,t hat does tan when you say "some time," because this is what, 62% of the precincts? >> yang: and 62%. it's also hard to figure out where the outstanding vote is. ere has been no indation from the party about when the rest of the vote ll come out. woodruff: all right.
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john yang staying in des moines. thank you very much. >> woodruff: to tell us more about what this all could mean, david yepsen joins me from des moines. he's c for years and is host of "iowa so david yepsen, as a veteran covering politics in this state, what can you tell us about what wwent wrong inside the a democratic party? >> well, it was an embarrassment what occurred and what went wrong is that the system th th had was too big and too complicated to work well. you think about it, there collecting three pieces of data from 160,000 people in 2,000 assign it to 99 countiesing statewide and make some sense
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out of it, and it just imploded. it's sad, because on a day when iowa democrats counsel -- counsel braintreeing their elevation of an openly gayti presid candidate, they're bogged down in defending this process, which has been iticized for years. and what we saw yesterday may very well be the end of the process as we know it. >> woodruff: well, i want to ask you about that and about pe buttigieg, but why was it so complicated? who is at fault or what's at fault here? >> well, i think it's a combination... i think complexity of it. so of it was untested. they're going back and doing i post-mortem, b doesn't look good. somebody said, if this were a third-world country, we'd be calling for u.n. observers to look at our electknns. you don' where votes come from. you don't know how long it tak before they're reported.
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we live in an era when the public is scepticf elections, fake news, and conspiracy theories abound. and the party simply failed to have good, clean, quick count that was unimpeachable. >> woodruff: david, youd mentioe victory in so many words of pete buttigieg. is that hoyou read this? because he is ahead in the so-calledq delegate euivalent count, but in terms of the raw numbers, i guess bernie sanders was ahead. >> yeah. both of them get bragging rights.so i think that's fine. so far they can claim a victorya i thin i said, i think for what pete buttigieg has accomplished here in a state that has been cfoiticized not lilywhite, too ol, rural, all of a sudden plurality of delegates appear to have supported the first openly gay candidate for the americancy presid that ought to be a big deal. instead they're sitting there mired in this mes over these
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counts. >> woodruff: do these results, and again we've only got 62%th f precincts in, david yepsen, do these resultsquare with what you've seen around the state leading up to the caucusesi did you see kind of a result building? >> certain was possible. buttigieg had very good crowds. so did bernie sanders. bernie sanders d big crowds in a lot of areas, like college tongues. this is why four years ago he wantedhis body count taken, this initial preference, because he knhow... he tught he had more people than hillary clinton did. the sa thing is haening here, but like the electoral college, you have to t votes in lots of different places in order to wyndel gas or lech or. electors. >> woodruff: anything you want to add about how elizabeth warren or joe biden did in. >> this is babi news foden.
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it explains why his campaign is complaining the loudest aboth delegate cunt today. fourth place. there's ne r been fourckets out of iowa. this is not a good showing. now, mabe it wilhange, and this is all tentative, as you noted, the 62%. maybe he does better in rural areas, but it's not very good news for biden. this doesn't give him the momentum that he needs to raise desperately needed money to stay in this race. >> woodruff: and elizabeth warren? >> i think this halts her slide. she had peakedt one point, dom then she tookhits debates, and so her campaign was really trying to get some momentum again. so third place, she lives to take the argument on to new hampshire. >> woodruff: and just in a few aycond, i heard youou do think this may with the end of the caucuses in iowa? >> yes. i think the criticism all over
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good way to do this.isnot a they should go to a primary system. i expect there to be a big discussion nationally in the democratic national committee, d i think there will be discussion in iowa, as well, about whether this state shouldn't, in fact, go to a primary like most states. >> woodruff: david yepsen, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: it is the eve ofde thsive day in the trial of president trump, on impeachment charges.ea of the crucial votes, members of the united states senate spent this day, speaking their minds. congressional correspondent lisa desjardins begins our coverage.: >> desjardt the capitol, the impeachment jury is silent no more. >> so i may begin mr. president, thank you. >> desjardins: senators tooks
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tuocessing two weeks' of arguments, during which they were forbidden from speaking, into ten minutes of remarks each.en >> thee must now ask, do these charges meet the standard for impeachment? >>esjardins: for most the president. focus was sharp-- and a conclusion that his push to investigate a pola ical rival wagh crime. >> donald trump did it. he did it. he abused his power. there is no question about it. no question at all. >> desjardins: the president's actions here have all the
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is desjardins: democrats have waited days for honing thoughts in hallways and in private. and so have republicans. their focus? largely blasting house democrats' impeachment process. the house lent straight to impeachment as the first resort. >> there is no doubt the >> there is no doubt the house impeachment prisess was partan, politically driven and denied president trump some of his most basp rights of due cess. >> desjardins: as it did in the trial, the witss question, and e decision not to call any, permeated the air, with democrats bluntly crit >> the senate abandoned its responsibilities when it blocked efrts to get the complete truth here in this chamber.er as a result the will be a permanent cloud over these proceedings. >> it makes people believe, correctly in my judgment, that the administration, its top people, and senate republicans
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are all hiding the truth they're afraid of the truth. >> desjardins: to that high- powered charge, republic leader mitch mcconnell, responded with his own volley at democrats. >> i can certainly see why given president trump's remarkable achievements over e past three years, democrats might feel a bit uneasy about defeating him at the ballot box. but they don't get to rip theom choice away he voters just because they're afraid they might lose again. >> desjardins: that party dividn is evident evehe search for meaning. democrats, concerned for the future... >> des eager to get to the future. >> work together, we must, we will emerge stronger, because we will. i yield the floor. >> desjardins: the senate votes on article of impeachment tomorrow. for the pbs newshoar, i'm lisa dens. >> woodruff: for more on i tomorroweachment vote, we're joined by two senators
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with opposing views.r first up, senahn thune of south dakota. republican in the senate and he joins us now from capitol hill. senator thune, thank you very much for being her. we just hin lisa's reporting that some democratic senators are saying the republicans want to hide theth truth from american people. how do you answer that? >> i don't thinkthat's true at all, judy. process that the senate justt went through, we heard almost 7 hoof testimony or responses to questions from the housers manand from the president's counsel. we heard testimony from 13 witnesses, 193 video clips, and about 28,000 pages of was entered into the record.hat and so there is a body of evidence out there. i think they had a opportunity to make their case. they announced repeatedly durino thse of these proceedings that the evidence they had was overwhelming and i think also
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used other words like "undisputed." i think the opportunity for both sides to be able to be heard wah ere in the senate. they both made their aen. now 's up to senators to decide. >> woodruff: well, at this point it does appear will not be the votes to convict the president. he will be acquitted. he will remain in office. but what do you say to soe republicans who have said what e president did in t phone call to the president of ukraine was wrong, that it was not appropriate, and they don't believe he should be remed from office, but he made a mistake, that it was wrong? how you respond to that? >> right, well, and i think you heard a number of our members on our side articulate that point of view. i think you heard that from people like lamar alexander, susan collins, lisa murkowski, and others, as well, whoar basicallof the view that although they don't agree with think it was appropriate, they don't see it as grounds to remove him om office and all
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the disruption and convulsive impact that would have on or society, our culture, and everything else. onthink there is a realcern out there that tofhe behavio the president, the conduct by the president obviously isn't condone, buat the same time,ld it didn't reach that threshold that would allow him to be, you know, removed from office. i think there are some very serious consequences that members have to think through when you contemplate the iea that this would be first time ever that a president would be remoced from of that's never happened in our nation's history. >> woodruff: do you agree with them that what he did was wrong, what he said was wro>>? just don't think at this point it's a discussion that is past us. thee are many things president does that i don't agree work but i think in this case the qution before the senate is whether or not it constitutes grounds to remove him from office. they is a very high bar, intentionally gh by the
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founders to make it a very extreme remedy to be us in very extreme circumstances. a lot of our members concluded whilethough they didn't agree with the president's conduct, they didn't think it reached that threshold. >> woodruff: do you think censure should be considered by the senate? >> i don't think it will be. there s somdiscussion about that. senator manchin today mentioned that in his remarks. there are some i would say very preliminary discussion about that. but ems to me at least that if that was an option, that was something that probably should have been rolled out much earlier. once you have gone down the road to try and literally throw a pres oent out offfice coming back and saying, well, let's censure him seems like pbably at this point not something that would enjoy much support. can't speak for individual members. they didn't have the opportunit to make thstatements and to propose solutions that fit their desired outcome, but i think ae this pointll have an opportunity to act impeachment on removal tow.or
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i think that will be the final say in this. >> woodruff: well, tonight is the state of the union address. the president will be speing before the joint session of congress. what do you want to hear from him tonight? >> well, i hope that he tries to move past the current unpleasantness and really focus on the future. i think it's important forim to talk about not only the things that he has done and where we at also where we're going. and i think he has a really prettytrong record to talk about when it comes to the economy with respect to unemployment, wage, growth, and many of his policies, wheth it's tack policy, regulatory policy, healthcare, energy, trade, have put us in a situation where people are seeing their standard of living improve and wages have been up. and is there is a god story there. but i think that, you know, what needs to do is in a very optimistic way, a very hopeful way, talk about what he wants to do to build on that and to really take that foundation and use it as a spring board for the future.o
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so i'ming it will be an optimist, message, a message that is visionary, hopeful, strong, and obviously talk, as well, about thimportant national security priorities that we need to address as we d live in ngerous world. >> woodruff: the white house is saying they believe the democrats are the one going to end up being most damaged by this impeachment process because they brought something up that was a hoax in the first place and then it failed. t hashey say the presid been helped by this entire process. do you see it that way >> i think the politics of it will play out over the course of the next several months. i do know they was a member of nde house when president clinton was impeachedhrough that process his numbers went up and ours wet down. it seems like in this case just looking at the raw politics of it, i thinthe president, a lot of people ound the countryin that this was an extreme measure and don't think it was fair, don't thi he was treated fairly or given due process. as a result of that, it seems at least that he has gained a
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little bit, if you will, ihink there has been some definite negative impact, adverse impact on the democrats as a result of it. but you know, the election is a long ways away.hs several morom now people will be thinking about other issues, focused on other this, and by that point this will probably be something that may be a distant memory. we'll see. all i know is from experience when we went true this in 1999, that was certainly the effect. >> woodruff: senator john thun thank you very much. >> thanks, judy. >> woodruff: and besides the vote in the senate or rather the vote on the verdict in the senate impeachment trl, coming up one week from today is thet- fi-the-nation presidential primary being held in the state h new hampshire. for more on bof these things, we turn to newm hampshire's ocratic senator. she is jeanne sheheen. with us. thank you for bei >> thanks for having me.
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>> woodruff: you are most welcome here. we just heard senator thune say it could well be that the president is helped politically by this impeachme process. just as president clinton was helped some more than 20 years ag how do you see it? that.ll, i don't think we know it's a long time from now until the election. i think importt thing for me s to take a look at what we were hearing from the house managers in terms of presenting the case for impeachment and what we heard from the white use defense counsel, and i think the house managers made their case, and weee ded to do the right thing, whether you supported e process or not, it was important the senate has a responsibility to fulfill our oath of office to be responsible to the constitution. and that's what i tried to do. woodruff: do you think it was right to bring these charges thbefore the senate, foe president to be impeached? >> clearly the president's
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actions were inappropriate. i believe the hse managers were successful in showing an abuse of power.i he used office to basicly tell ukraine he was going to withhold aid unless they investigated political rival is nnsistent with our that. constitution, so we needed to act on that. once the president's actions had been uncered, it was important for us to hold him accountable. >> woodruff: do you think there is any otherrgument the house managers could have made to win over more votes? because it does now appear they're -- there are not going to be enough votes to convict. >> you know, i was pticularly disappointed to see that we weren't able to call more witnesses to get the docthuments had been withheld by the white house, the first tim in senate history in an impeachment, not just of a any impeachment that no re theses came befo
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senate, that documents were not produced. it was clear that the president and th white house were stonewalling congress. and i was disappointed that our colleagues in the senate didn't agre pwith me thateople like john bolton, who had firsthand knowledge at happened was not able to come and tell his stori to the senate. ink most of my constituents and the american people agreed,' if innocent, if this was a perfect phone call, as the president said, if he didg nothong, then why not tell the people who were closest toin you, who werthe room, that they should come and testify? even richard nixon had his oath when they testified before congress. >> woodruff: i want to turn your attention, senator to, what's going on in the state you represent, new hampshire. as you know very well, iowa voted last night in its for president.mocrati there were problems with that. we're just now beginning to learn partial resus from thse
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caucuses. what bearing do you think those results are going to have on what people, what democrats do in new hampshire? >> well, you know, it's a long time. the nominating process is a lon process. i'm from the first primary state. we believe that voters can to the polls in the primary and that's a process that better reflects what's going to happen in november. a caucus is an ineresting process, but it doesn't give one voter one vote at the ballot box. and so i'm looking forward to sighing what happens in new hampshire and what happens afterward. there are a lot of contests between now d the nomination convention in this summer. >> woodruff: who is hurt we what happened? we just learned these partial results with pete buttigieg ahead in terms of what's called delegate equivalent, buternie sanders is ahead in the raw count. who is helped and who is noted heo you think? >> you know, i think because of the way the results are coming out, we still don't have full
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results. we still haven't had a chance t analat they mean. that has an impact on all of the candidates as they come into new hampshire. so the usual bump that you might get from iowa as we come into the new hampshire primary doesn't exist for anybody now. and so we're going to start all owover again and see the candidates do in new hampshire, see what their organizations are mke, see how people have responded to thesages. >> woodruff: does this hurt the democratic party and ultimately theemocratic party nominee for president? >> i don't think so. i'think again its a long time. there's a lot of news that's going to happ between now ad the nominations convention. there's a lot of news haat's going toen before the november levels. i think once the new hampshire primary happens, people are not going to remember what happened in iowa. they will be focud on neada and south carolina and all the contests that come after new hampshire. w druff: senator, finally, how confident are you that the vote counting process in new
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hampshire is going to work as well as it should, which means accurately on the night of the voting? >> i'm absolutely confident. new hampshire has a paper trail. we have had a paper trail really since we've had the new hampshire primary. this is something that we do every four years. we have a secretary of state who has been there who knows how this works, and people are going to see credible results, and they're going to come out >> woodruff: no mistakes? >> no mistakes. >> woodruff: ard right. we hit from you. senator jeanne sheheen of ne hampshire, thank you very much. >> thank you.oo >>uff: and a reminder you can watch pbs newshour's coverage of the state of thees union adon pbs, on the newshour you tube channels, ando on all newshoual media channels starting at 9:00, 8:00 central.
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>> woodruff: in the other news, the coronavirus outbreak in china claimed more lives: 5or dead among mthan 20,000 cases. the semi-autonomous territory of hong kong also reported its first death. the announcement came as thousands of hospital workers in the city went on strike for a second day. they're demanding the full closure of hong kong's border with mainland china. >> ( translated ): we are performing our duty diligently. but if you do not stop the virus from coming in, we cannot perform our duty, as well as ensure the safety of our citizens. we hopthat hong kong people will be safe. >> woodruff: mea, another chinese territory, macao, recorded its first case. leaders of theambling enclave asked casinos to close for two weeks to help prevent further infections. we'll get re on the outbreak after the news summary.ey
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tus warning it will intervene to stop a syrian government offensive against rebels.sy thans are advancing in idlib provin, and driving thousands of refugees toward the turkish border. but reports today quote president recep tayyip erdogan as saying the turks will stop the syrian offensive. c es a day after clashes between the two nations killed eight turks an13 syrian troops. the u.s. nuclear arsenal has added its first new weapon in decades. the pentagon confirms a so- called low yie, nuclear-tipped missile is being deployed on submarines. officials say it is ant to deter adversaries, like russia. the move departs from obamera moves to lessen dependence on nuclear weapons. twitter says it will label, and in some cases remove, doctored images, audio and video that are meant to mislead users. the social media giant ss the key will be whether the materiad
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med harmful. that could include everything from outright threats to stalking and voter suppression. the rules take effect in march. and, wall street rallied asa chmped billions of dollars into its markets, to stem economic damage from the virus oureak. the dow jones industrial average gained 408 points to close at 28,808. the nasdaq rose 194 points, 2%, to a new high, and the s&p 500 added 48 points. still to come on the newshour:l the financd political fallout of the deadly coronavirus. the latest from the trial of disgraced former film producer haey weinstein. and much more. >> woodruff: most of the
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attention on the outeak of this new coronavus is appropriately focused on the public healtconcerns in china and around the world..s 66% ofadults say the virus poses a real threat to public health, according to the latest pbs newshour/npr/marist poll. as quarantines and trave restctions multiply, many companies that rely on china are also hurting from this outbreak. william brangham is back tonight with a look at the early economic fallout. >> brangham: you've heard about major airlines suspending flights into a out of china. but you may not know that many large companies have shut down stores and offices in the country. others are halting work at c factories withna, which can deal a serious blo the global supply chain of parts and merchandise. today, hyund motor companyil announced itsuspend vehicle production at most of its south korean factories in three days because it can't gets
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needed prom china. a's the first carmaker outside china to make thouncement. david lynch covers global economics for the "washington post." and he joins me now. welcome. >> thank you. >> brangham: stickin this hyundai announcement, th're basically saying, we can't keep making cars if we can't gethese parts coming out of china. is it your sense that this is a harbinger what's to come? >> well, that's the worry, that this is the care nary in the coleman, because hyundai is not alone in the auto industry or the global industries across the board in demanding upon chineor the auto industrythe u.s. depends on chinese suppliers for something like 15% of its components. consumer electronics is even more dependent, up to 50% of what's needed for consumer game console, smartphone, lapt computers and the like some if chinese goes off line for any appreciable length of time,
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at's big problem. >> brangham: one of your most recent pieces in the "postly retouched on for people who don't appreciate t role that china does play in the globalt economy an supply chain, can you explain a little bit more about its centrality. >> sure. this is one of the big changes since 2003, which is the last timeuring the sars epidemic, that we saw this kind of runawaa mescare. china is now four times as large terms.was then in economic >> brangham: four times in 17 years? >> correct. $14 trillion economy. it'slso become the center of global production tworks in any number of key industries as we've said, electronics, autos, medical equipment, industrial machinery, prmaceuticals. 80% of the raw materials used by american drug companim to ake generic drugs come from china. so again, if there is any sort lengthy erruption, there and we should say, we don't know how long this problem will last. if things come back online in a
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week or, two this will be a hiccup. it will be a bump in the road, it will be forgotten pretty quickly. but the concern is, as this veer us are continues to spread and the chinese authorities continue to struggle to ctain it, how long is this going to last?ha >> bra i guess we're not epidemiologists. that's the mystery and that's te thing they're tryingo get to the bottom of. the other thing that you and others have reported that i didn't quite appreciate is how much of a domestic market. china exports to the world. but they themselvess have a booming domestic rket that we sell t >> absolutely. this is another bigchange. we've gotten used to thinking of china as a low-cost factory export platform for the world. but it's now the chnese domestic market is the largest market for movies, for autos, for all sorts of consumer products like this, and american companies are there to sell into this. apple, for instance, sold $44
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billion worth of product in china to chinese consumers last year. all the stores in that country are now closed. ism. >> brangham: we understand igat some of the quarantine for certain regions be coming off with the idea that those factories could theoretically open again, but you were telling us before that the end of the chinese lunar new year, norlly people come back into the cities, but it's not clear if they will be going back to work and if it will be safe for them. to do >> correct. at the moment the theory is most of the factors will come back online on february 10th, but in hubeiprovince, whicis where wuhan is, the center of the epidemic, it's february 13th. that's the current planning. as you say, typically the chinese lunanew year, this is the big annual holiday. so everybody floods out of the city, go home to their ancestral village, coming back at a time when domestic transport has been interrupted
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because they're trying in the me market to use the sasort of isolation thaint's be applied globally to cut off that transmission. it may make it much harder than is normally the case for workers to get back to their jobs. o> brangham: responding not economic fears ut this virus, the trump administration has been downplaying it saying we don't think it will be a big impact here, and the stock market thus far seems to have not viewed this with too much alarm. does that reaction surprise you or make you sanguine? >> it surprises me a bit just because i think the downside risks here are obvious. the white house, larry kudlow, the comacial onomic director said last week that he didn't ticipate any material impact on the u.s. economy. that was early days. i think today he's said that they do anticipate an impact on the recently signed u.s.-china trade deal. china is supposed o be making enormous new purchases of ameroan products, farm ds,
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energy, manufacturing goods. these were ambitis targets, $200 billion extra over two years, an ambitious target before this crisis. kudlow said today it's going to take longer than expecd to get those export orders because of the illness. >> brangham: all right. davi "lynch of theshington post," thank you. >> thank you. w druff: the trial of harvey weinstein, the former movie mogul accused of rape and sexual assault, has been especially charged, emotional and tense. so f, five women have testified during the trial that weinstein raped or sex assaulted them. the fifth, jessica mann, has been at the center of a grueling cross-examination yesterday and today. as amna nawaz tells us, she is a key witness in this case. and a warning for younger views, this segment includes sensitive subject matter.
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>> nawaz: dy, jessica mann testifed last week that weinstein raped and assaulted r in march 2013. during an intense cross- examination yesterday that left mann in tears, attorneys for weinstein grilled her on why she maintained a relationship with him after the assaults. weinstein's lawyers have repeatedly raised questionsib about the credity of his accusers. weinstein has denied the allegations, saying any and all interactions with the women were conssual. i joining me nrose friedman, associate editor at npr who has has en following this story court. rose, welcome to the news hour. i should mention, more than 80 women in the last couple years have accused wenstein of sexual assault, but jessica mann in this particular trial hasbebeen descas a star witness. why is that? who is jessica mann, and why whats it about her sto that's so compelling for prosecutors? >> well, she had thelongest relationship with harvey weinstein. she was an aspiring actress whe she came to l.a.
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she was around 25. and she met himy at pad he asked for her contact information. and they started chatting.r he told e was interested in her as an actress. and then she ended up in this long five-year reationship with him, which she described as abusive and degrading, but she sa he could also be very charming. so kind of inspired fear but also uld really help he out in some situations. the reason that she's the star witness is ecause she knows him the best. >> nawaz: so, rose, wat is it jurors are hearing from jessica mann when she's up there testifying? >> sheuptoll a co of different stories about being assaulted by weinstein. the one that he's charged with in new york hapatpene a double tree in manhaan. she was staying there with friends. she was supposed to have a breakfast meeting with him and her friends. he showed up early and checked into the hotel. she got a call from the front desk. she go downstairs and says, why are you checking into the hotel. according to her he got angry
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and said, you're embarrassing me, let's talk about this upstairs in my room. she went upstairs to the room where he assaulted her. that's not the only story she toll. she told a vother quiolent story aboubeing assaulted in e.a., but that is the only on that happened in new york, so that's why he's charged in new york. >> nawaz: so in is second day of testifying yesterday, there is a moment we mentioned at the intshroduction,'s being cross-examined by weinstein's lawyers. she begins crying uncontrollably, so much so that the sudge has tospend and end the testimony for the day. what was going on in that moment. you were in that room. describe for us the line of questioning and how you watcd it unfold. >> so weinstein's attorney donna noe was questioning her. donna was taking her through hundreds of e-mails between her instein, trying to show they were having sort of a nice friendly sometimes anywhereta h relationship, sometimes transactional, and they got to this letter that jessica man hat n to her then-boyfriend about weinstein, and it was very personal letter, and it
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mentioned a sexual assault in jessica mann's past. that's the moment when shest ted crying and had to leave the courtroom. >> nawaz: that lynn of questioning, i've been reading your reporting on that, this was something that his attorneys, instein's attorneys cack again and again, why would you keep in touch with someone who allegedly assaulted yoyou. disee that as a consistent theme for them? >> yeah, that's pretty much their defense. these women sort of kept coming back to him asking hi for things, letting him help them out. jessica mannt some point was having trouble with her car and his office talked her through it some people would coming back to him again and again. that's the way they were trying to sort of move that therese tionships were consensual. although at some point jessica nn answering a question today said to harvey weinstein's lawyer, it's irrelevant. all of this irrelevant. the fact ise raped me. >> nawaz: how is the prosecution handling that?
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a lot people wi say, both can can't be true, that this woman would say this perspe and sawmghted and yet they continued to be in touch with him. >> well, the prosecution has a couple ways of dealing with thy . one is td an expert witness come in in the very beginning of the trial to talkou behavior that often goes along with being assaulted. anwhat that expert witness said is that most assault classic way that hink that they would react where they would just cut the person out of their life and never see them again. a lot of times that people end up going back to their assaulter for varus reasons. another way that they're dealing with it is by having multiple women testify. so we're going to hear from six women in this case, hoping that sort of piling up those stories will help sort of convince the jury that this was real pattern of behavior and no matter what you hear from the defense, the t fat there are six women willing to testify in this case and probably more outside of the case is what's going to tip the scale. >> nawaz: we'll be watchg
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d watching your reporting, as well. rose friedman of npr. she's been covering the trial of harvey weinstein in new york. thanks, rose. >> thank you. f: >> woodrinally, an encore report on an icon, actor tom hanks, who is nominated for his first best supporting actor academy award in this sunday's show. tom hanks was last nominated for best actor in 2001, and last won that category in 1995. innhe film "a beautiful day the neighborhood" hanks portrays fred rogers,ho hosted almost 900 episodes of "mister rogers' neighborhood" on public telesion. jeffrey brown talked wh the film's lead actors: hanks and matthew rhys, as part of our ongoing arts and culture series, canvas.. >> ♪ it's a beautiful day in the
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neighborhood ♪ >> ♪ it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood ♪ >> brown: tom hanks has morphedr into many ters over his storied film career, but in fred rogers, he says, hmet his match. the film, "a beautiful day in by marielle hellerwas directed >> mari, who is ironclad in hers dions about what she's going to do, she said, essentiay, "you'll get a wig, you'll get some eyebrows, you'll get a sweater and blue deck shoes. the rest is up to you. >> do you know what this is? it's lloyd! >> brown: his foil is a drivan d cynical journalist sent to write a profile of mr. rogersqu for e magazine, and the film is based on a true encounter in 1998. played by matthew rhys, best known for his role as a russianr spy in "the ans," the journalist is confounded by the sincere and glacially-paced
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mister rogers. and as it turns out, so was the welsh actor, rhys. did you know mister rogers owing upn wales? >> not a jot, nothg. not a whisper. nto youtubedived and i thought, "what's going on?" i had no idea. it seemed bizarre to mthat this -- i was like, 'ihas he forgotten his lines? is that why he speaks so slowl what's hpening? >> brown: rhys would come to see what millions had: fred rogers was utterly unique in the history of television. mission to reach, teach and help children be themselves. he didn't shy om serioussu ects, including divorce, death and racism. for hanks, as for many of us, one question lingered: was this guy for real? >> what is he trying to sell? well, he wasn't trying to sell anything. he was trying to make little kids feel safe. so for me as an tor it's like,
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what are my myriad, natural tendencies as a human ing that are going to have to be whipped ubmission so that i'm notin fallin that same brand of cynical presentation. there is a d.n.a. that you sort of have to inject into yourself at the same time that you put on that version of batman's cape and cowl, except it's a red cardigan and blue deck shoes. the individual scenes between the two of us were exhausting, as physically exhausting and physiologically exhausting as any scen i've ever played. >> i don't understand the i don't understand the question. >> well, there's you, fred, and there's the character you play, mr. rogers.
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>> these two men kind of circled each other with differentt intentions, so, but seemingly the same tactics of waitg and questioning. and until one either broke or opened up. >> brown: so who was the real fred rogers or who was the real mr. rogers? >> i heard an audio tape, there was a child psychologist was one discsed everything with. and they were talking about trying to come up with an opera for children. and this lady had this kind of'i i think what we can do is, the thematic element of the chorus here, with a frog, could actually be a bridge to the original theme of the first act.' pause, pause, pause.'i i think the frog' -- and this is misr rogers -- 'iyes, if
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the frog cou have a worry that he brings' -- and these are just people talking, these are people at work trying to gure out, how to, this is like a production meeting that he's going on and he still put that brand of thought to it. >> brown: fred rogers believed in the power of television, a tool for reaching people.. television hasn't really worked out that way, a lot of people think. >> well, he didn't change television as a technology or ab an art for look what he created for a half hour at a time: extraordinarily wise, smart things that made children understand the world a little bit better. if you only get a half hour out of that, you knoth once a day, i k you' still a half hour ahead of the curve. >> it is like there's an incredible symphony going on at all times. and it's in the paus sometimes the greatest potency is found. and i think if we do that for a small number of pele, for briemoment, so much so the better. >> brown: "mister rogers'
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neighborhood" ended its run on pbs in 2001. fred rogers died two years later at age 74. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown new york. >> woodruff: and we will find out if tom hanks wins another oscar this sunday night. an update now on the democrats' race for the 2020 nomination. again, with 62% of precincts reporting: former south bend, indiana mayor pete buttigieg holds a narrow lead in the delegate count over vermont senator bernie sanders, 26.9% to 25.1. next are massachusettsh enator elizabrren with about 18%, former vi president joe biden with about 15% and minnesota senator amy klobuchar
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with about 12%. no other candidate has double- digit support. e ape is projected that both sanders and buttigieg will each pledged delegates heading into4 the democratic nationalon conven warren has four. there are 17 delegates still to be assigned. it takes 1,991 delegates to win the presidential nomination. you got all that? and a reminder, before we go, later tonight please join us at 9:00, 8:00 central for pbs president trump's tate ofof the union address. and then tomorrow, at 3:45, 2:45 central we will bring you live covege of the senate vote on verdict in the impeachment trial of president donald trump. i'm judy woodruff.al foof us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon.
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