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captioning sponsored by nnewshour productiollc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: bracing for the surge. new infection counts in the u.s. soar, as the entire populations of california and new york a orded to stay at home. plus, accusations emerge against siaring u.s. senators who ap to have profited off of the pandemic. then, covid-19 and the crown. the coronavirus spreads through britain. how citizens there are adjusting to a nation transformed. >> we're going to go through that period of denial, confusion, annoyance, anger, and then sooner or later, within ten days or so, wel get that period of acceptance. >> woodruff: and, it's friday. mark shields and david bros analyze a week unlike any other in living memory-- and one that has fundamentally altered the course of american life.
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is closing down tonight, trying to contain the coronavirus pandemic.rk new tate and illinois have now joined california in taking that step, with more state expected to follow. meanwhile, president trump invoked emergency powers to move medical supplies into place as quickly as possible, as u.s. infections topped 15,000, with more than 200 deaths. william brangham begins our covege. >> brangham: in much of california, stay-at-home orders have already brought much of public le to a halt, and today, those orders expanded statewide. governor gavin newsom asked the entire state, 40 million people, to stay home. he cited an analysis that half the state could be infected in the next eight weeks if more aggressive moves weren't taken, so he ordered that nothing but the most essential activities continue. >> we will have social pressure that will encourage people to do the right thing.od just and a look, that says, "hey, maybe you shoulder
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reconseing out there on the beach, being 22 strong at a park." it's time for us to all a community, there's more we as need to do to meet this moment. ho>> brangham: it's unclea the new orders will be enforced, but it's one of the most drastic containment efforts underway. acrosshe country, another huge effort-- new york governor andrew cuomo ordered every employer in his state to keep their workers at home. >> 100% of the workforce must stay home. these are non-essential services. essential services have to continue to function-- grocery stores need food, pharmacies need drugs, your internet has to continue to rk, the water has to turn on when you turn the faucet. so, there are essential services that will continue to function. >> brangham: and illinoi governor issued a shelter-in- place order, effective tomorro
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these states have seen a surge in covid-19 cases and they--th along wiashington state-- are the hardest-hit in the their hospital systems are already being stressed and critical protective supplies are running low. the white house offered some forms of relief today. president trump said he had invoked the defense productioner act, directingin companies to change their focus and produce supplies needed for the coronavirus fight. and, the president also announced an extension to thein april 15 tax fdeadline. >> we are moving it all the way to july 15. no interest, no penalties. 5.ur new date will be july >> brangham: and in a move to stem the spread of the virus across countries, he announcedex the u.s. ando had agreed to close down the southern border to non-essential travel. but in what turned inttesty, contentious press conference, the president also said several things that are factuay wrong. for example, he cited the wrong symptoms for covid-19. >> they're sneezing, ty are
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sniffling, they have a temperature. there are a lot of different thin.ngham: actual symptoms are fever, but also dry cough and ing.ouble brraeath >> sneezing and sniffling are not. he implied that an unproven anti-malaria drug cod event there's zero proof of ulat. one of his top health officials, dr. anthony fauci, had to correcthe record moments later: >> the answer is no. >> brangham: and, contrary to all public health guidance, the president implied the u.s. didn't need additional testing for the virus. >> we're hearing very positive things about testing. it's able to test millions of people. but we inherited a broken, old, terrible system. frankly, a terrible system. a and we fixednd we've done a great job. >> brangham: across pennsylvania
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avenue, negotiations began between senators and administration over a $1 trillion ecelicononieom r tos is taking. anybody how catastrophic that that's happening all over this country. and it's going to cerate.oplen s country will get paid anactold not only are they not working on monday, but they're not getting paid any longer. >> brangham: the republican'sli plan proposes direct payments to individuals of up to $1,200, and $2,400 for couples; loans to small businesses struggling to meet payroll; and reli for hard-hit industries, like commercial airlines. but democrats again pushed for a different focus. >> the medical priority has to be the first priority. everythi else follows from that.dresthat as much as we stse tlid.thoit some senators had sold ta steckamientntngl s ofonou tts of the outbreak.
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in italy, more tragic news. the nation saw its biggest daily rise in coronavirus deaths, more worldwide, the death toll from this pandemic surpassed 11,000le peoday. for the pbs newshour, i'man william am. >> woodruff: wall street is limping into the weekend, after its worst week since the 2008 meltdown. stocks sank today after new york state ordered workers to stay ho, on top of california's state-wide lockdown.th dow jos rinest cvelodu a belalga 19,174 the nasdaq fell 271 points, and doe s&p 50 105 points. for the week, thlost 17%. the nasdaq fell 12%, and the s&p 500 dropped 15%. now, to help walk us through how washington is responding to all of this, i'm joined by our white house correspondent ya
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alcindor and our congressional correspondent lisa dmijardins. so, e, to you first, going back to some of what william was reporting, what w we know, no, about testing, the availability of testing and then what the white house is doing with regard making moe medical supplies available? ell, there are two critical things things and two critical challenges that the unit states is facing right now as it relates to coronavirus. the firthsts the u.s. is not able, at this point, to meet the demand of testi. there e a lot of people who want and need to be tested for the coronavirus who are not being able to get those teets. the nd thing is there are hospitals saying they are facing dire shortages of medical quipment, things like masks and other equipment they need topa treaients. so i put a question to the president that said when willer people -- ne who needs a test be able to get a coronavirus test? >> we inherited-- meaning this
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administration-- an obsolete, broken system, that wasn't meant for anything like this. now we have a system that, you can see because, look,nt we're wellthis, and nobody's even talking about it, except for you, which doesn'tse. h don'rpri m herererpri su americans, though, who say they have symptoms and they can't get what do you say tocans... >> yeah, well, i'm not, i'm not hearing it. but we don't wgot everybody to ut and get a test because there's no reason for it. >> so the president is saying thn he has not heard ofy aren ablto guset a teirst.onav we have heard from so mny people who say that they do need a test and haven't been able to t one. . anthony fauci, a health said, nry clearly, thetr, ion, united states is not able to meet that demand. rhe other g ththise and he had to rebuild the entire system. ama administration officials continue to stress they left the president with a white house it in 2018.fice and he di the other thing to note is the presidens talking about having
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the defense production act invoked, but the president wen back and foth and never landed clearly on whether or not he's directing compies to start making medical equipment. instead, he said companies lie general motors want to start king medical equipment, but it's not clear whether the president is saying you need to now start making medical important for hspitals facing these shortages. >> woodruff: we saw the president got into a back andrt forth with reps at that briefing today over -- when he was asked ahe boadmiutnistrawtion ios handlinl this. >> that's right. this iprobably one of the most contentious prres cones i've ever seen with the president. president trump was lashing ou at reporters. specifically, he was talking about the idea that he fet aggrieved by nc news' peter alexander. rhe said that he was vey angry at peter for asking a question about whether or not he had ass e for americans who were sced. president trump said that he was
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a nasty reporter, that that was a bad questio we've seen this president do this over and over again. for the first time in white house history a former white house press secretary was posing questions for the president. sean spicer was sitting next tme oday in the white house briefing room. so it was interesting to see ths prent lashing out. the president was in a much better mood when heas talking about the border changes. he said i have been trying to make changing i have been wanting to about undocumented i immigrants, and now i'm ae to do those things. >> woodruff: yamiche, let me turn to you, now, because congress is moving quickly at a eed we're no used to seeing to try to come up with legislation to address not on the health questions that are out there but also the economic questions. >> i'll tell you, dy, all day today at the capitol, the premise here is mostly abandoned except with a large number ofe white hoficials and cabinet secretaries, which there were so many you almost ran ito them in the halls because
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they're having meetings across the senate, trying to have a al, trying to get a draft proposal by midnight tonight. something new is a bigger focus onpiosls, maybe building new temporary hospitals to deal with the medical isues tht yamiche is raising and others are concerned about. one piece that seems to be cementing the small business help. let's look at where it stands for small busesinsehuinretdss s in loans that could be processed in days for small businesses that need it. the idea is that could help fo back pay retroactive to march 1 for businesses at already have to stop paying their workers, they could repay them with this forgiven. those loans would be if that small business uses that federal loan money for payroll ornor lease moey. now, that's the part that seems to be kind of taken care of, agreed upon. there is a real question about unemployment benefits, those who
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are out of work who were not with a small business. many senators would lie to increase the unemployment benefit by a lot. today, when we look at what' happening with that, the idea of raising the unemployment check amount inrunning ito a logistical problem, states which operate t e unemploymystem may not be able to handle the surge, they're telling cond gre, ere could be a lag in trying to get that payment out. so congress is wrestling with logistical issue when it comes to unemployment. this is where the ideof direct payment to americans comes in, veobably a $1,200 check or so. that is stilry much on the table. i also want to mention speaker pelosi is paying attention to able to ring in very quickly and the idea is to maybe vote on alm this nday. that seems incredibly optimistic to me, but i want say that is the official word from senator mcconnell's office, that is their hope. w odruff: there are suggestions there is going to be a giant increase in unemployment. separately, lisa, on capitol
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hill, there are some other quesons being raised ut whether some members of congress are profing during this national emergency, and lisa s more on that. >> desjardins: two u.s. senators under scrutiny and defending themselves: richard burr ofro north na and kelly loeffler of georgia. the republicans sold off millions of dollars in stocks at different points in the weeks fore global financial markets tanked. rere's what we know. >> it was a goodntation. >> desjardins: on january 24, the senate was briefed about the coronavirus in a private, secure meeting with top health officials. that same day, loeffler's trading account began selling off stocks worth between $1 to $3 million, and purchaocng stks in companies focused on working from home. loeffler co-owned those stocks wither husband, who is the chairman of the new york stock exchange. but, roughly three weeks later, she publicly showed confidence in the market.
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>> theood ws is the consumer is strong, the economy is strong. >> the committee will engage -- as >> stahl: as for burr, who is dc irman of the senate intelligence committee, on february 7, he co-wrote an op- ed, assuring the united states was "better prepared than ever hit an to face coronas.ebru, s. time high, but, coronavirus deaths in china had topped 1,000. the centers for disease control warned that same day of coronavirus spreading in the u.s. the following day, february 13, burr's trading account sold off between $628,000 and $1.7 million in stocks. both burr and loeffler have denied they made the financial moves based on non-public w informatioch would be illegal for members of congress. >> it's absolutely false, and il d not be true. >> stahl: loeffler said today, a money manager does all of hern tradesshe doesn't learn of them until three weeks later. in a statement today, burr said ubwsnelied solelonc y li
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re s regarding the sale of stocks n february 13." burr also asked the senate ethics committee to open an investigation in the matter to provide "full transp." >> woodruff: lisa, you spoke today with senator loeffler and senator burr's office. ght.hat's just a quick note here, the questions that remain, senator loeffler basically saying she had nothing to do with the stock trades because it goes through a third party. did she speak to her husband who could have spoken to the money manager? doesn't sound like she has a blind trust. senator burr, his office says he has been raising the alarm aout pandemics for a long time and had this concern for a while. the conceris the pubc statements versus what they were doing with their stocks. >> woodruff: yes, that is the question. lisa, what did the experts tell yoerabout whehat has happened appears to have broken a law? >> our producer spoke wth former federal prosecutors s.e.c. officers, former
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don't know that much about thewe the timing and who exactly the senators spoke with, butwo of the people said there might be enough to initiate a ca. right now this is in the hands of the senate ethics committee, which is not thest transpent body on earth, but obviously will be paying close attention. other members of congress have made stock trades, but the timing is not as suspect as these two. >> woodruff: yamiche, at the white house, the president was heked about this. >> that's right,resident said he would possibly be interested in thesing these senators be investigated for these stock trades, but he said these are good, honorable people and said they have done nothing wrong. i should say a couple of days ago i talked to larry kudlow, econdomichite houisor, he said this could be a good buying opportunity fopeople, when i asked about people who were scared about their retirement funds. so there is business advice
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coming from the wu hhiasnkse yo. a week when more cities and states have started far mor comprehensive shutdowns in a desperate bid to mitigate the spread of covid-19 in this i spoke yesterday with dr. anthony fauci, one of the country's top publ health officials, about that and how the country is faring when it comes to slowing the pandemic he joined us or our special, "confronting coronavirus," and we continued our conversation. dr. anthony fauci, thank you very much for joining us. as we sit here, middle of march, what is your biggest concern about this coronavirus pandemic? >> well, i men, my biggest concern, i think, would be
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obvious, because we've seen it potential, we see what it did in china, we see what it has done in korea, and we see what it's doing right w in european countries, particularly italy and france. we have an escalati c ofases in our own country right now, and my concern is -- and i hope it goes from a concern to a realization that we're doing what we should be doing -- is that we really need to take the commendations and the guidelines of how to mitigate y, veryead of this ver seriously. the situation o of -- situations well dleated in the guidelines about avoiding crowds, getting people to self-isolate. don't go to bars or restaurants or places where there are cros and gatherings. 10 people at the most if you want to do something socially. if we do that and do that consciou --coscientiously, we wa
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long way to muting that. certaipeople are not taking that seriously. seriously.as to take that it particularly depends on the younger individuals who may fe they're invulnerable because they hear, appropriately, that the disease or the infection in young people is not nearly as severe as if you're an elderly person or a person who has an underlying condition. >> i hear you say that and, yett you see pes, video of people enjoying themselves at the beach in florida and perhaps other places. what do you say to them? >> one of the things that's stimulated me to make the statement about appeing and tweeting the younger generation is that i see thpiose ctures of people frolicking aroun bar. it's spring break, in many cases, you're young, feel invulnerable, want to have a good time. i get that. i was young at one time and enjoyed doing that, bt this is a very unique situation we're
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in. you know, you can almost make an analogous to what was happening, you know, in a war whenry evee was called upon to just step to the plate and do something extraordinary. it isn't business as usual. we cannot treat this as business as usual. >> woodruff: speaking of spring break, cvonflicting aice this week to americans in different states about whether schools should be clsed, opened, daycare centers. what is your best advice on that right now?va >> iies from location to location. you want to listen to the local -- state and local health authorities, but you also would hope that ey are looking at the gins that are coming from the federal level because they're only guidelines. they should "you should," they don't say "you must," but they should at least be looked at. so, clearly, in certain circumstances, partiy in areas where there's community spread, the sch soould be closed. >> woodruff: dr. fauci, reuters is reporting today thath
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first cases of covid 19 reported in the united states and south korea on the same y, january 20th, but in quickly, they had testingy manufactured and made available ththin days. eed mr v hquad covid 19. the story in the ited states has been a lot slower. this country is still, as you've said, not rea tdehe the has gone wrong here? annod t thjue wiprop regulation a the social distancing that didn'tet implemented until the last few days? >> to be fair, i don't think that somhing has go wrong. obviously, nothing was perfect. with regard to the testing, we've gone over that over and sthat uor tthtietingni, ally from the c.d.c., developing a test, getting it to the public health authorities, was not t design the broad type of high through put testing that
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goes out in the contry. we're in that arena. let's look forward as to posed back, that's working.i but otte aggressive. when you have an outbreak, when you look at the histi of outbreaks, it's a little bit like the fog of wal-mart people trto do theght thing and sometimes they get it right right from the beginning, sometimes they correct and really go.th i woulk where we are right now in a good place, it isn't perfect by any means, we still have to get morquipment and we're doing something to get more equipment. we still made kneed mae sure testing is much more available but it's getting there really rapidly. druff: dr. futurey, i know you have been reluctant to predict how long this is goings to be with. i had somebody say is there ahi dangeris going to be like the black plague, mething from the 14th century which was there but came back again andag n for years? what do we know about that?
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>> we don't know, judy, because this ised unprecedebut you can kind of project and surmise from experience with different confronted with both in our own lifetimes and historically. the goal right now, as i said very often, if you leave the vices, itits own de will go way up and then come way down the it did in if you try to mute it, make it be much less of an impact, you won't completely eradicate it. i hope we do and get rid of it the way we did sas. it's unlikely, given the efficiency witwhich this spreads, that that's going to happen. i can't guarantee. so what might hapn foispe ir nt while and then, as we get into the next winter season, lat fall, winter, it may come back. i mea we would be unrealistic to think that that's not at least a possibility. but it would be different then because, by then, hopefully, we
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will have been better epared to respond in a public health way, number oe, nuber two, we will have already tested severam drugs,of which, hopefully, might be effective, and we would be mch, much closer to a vaccine which, as you know i said many times, might be ready for deployment between a year and a year and a half. so it's conceivable that it will cycland come back. much in fferent positione much, than we are >> woodruf dr.ht nw.o anthony fauci, we thank you very much. >> good to be with y. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, former democratic presidential candite michael bloomberg announced today that he is transferring $18 million to the democratic national the money comes from his
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campaign account, and is thela est such transfer ever. meanwhile, indiana became the eighth state to delay its presidential primary, due to tha coirus pandemic. officials pushed it back from may 5 to june 2. in afghanistan, at least 17 police and soldiers were kided overnight in a so-cal "insider" attack. security forces joined taliban fighters assaulting a base in zabul province in the south. itas one of the most serio attacks since the u.s. and the taliban agreed lt month on withdrawing foreign troops. four men in ina were hanged today for the gang rape and murder of a younwoman on a new delhi bus back in 2012. the crime ignited protests across india, and outrage around the world. at dawn today, crowds gathered outside the jail as denstrators celebrated the executions amid tight security.d
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>> ( transl ): this has brought peace to my heart, and a huge burden has been lifted. e gang rape victim, who left this world in sheer pain, has gotten justice. her parents have waited for so long. >> woodruff: in the years sie the murder, india has imposed tougher sentencing rules for sexual aault. still, activists say the new penalties have not deterred rape. and, this was the 25th anniversary of a nerve gas attack in tokyo, japan. a doomsday cult released the chemical in the city's subway system, killing 13 people and injuring thousands more.ke subway w and the victims' relatives held a moment of silence today at the station w a larger ceremony canceled because of the coronavirus pandemic. still to come on the nr: "wning signs." the critical days ahead as the virus spreads through the u.s. "the pandemic abroad." life in the united kingdom during the eraf covid-19.
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plus, mark shields and david brooks analyze a week ke america unliny other. >> woodruff: a question asked since the start of the pandemic is, should the u.s. have been better prepared? nick schifrin has a look at that now, with someone who occupied a front row seat in government efforts for decades. >> schifrin: for years, experts inside and outside government have sounded the alarm bell that e u.s. needed to better prepare for a pandemic. kee of those experts is dreth bernard, an epidemiologist, a retired rear admiral in the u.s. public health service, and the lead for public hea national security council staffo esduringe the cn lintonth and gs
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bush admations. dr. bernard, thank you very much. welcome to thehnewshour". isadministration, today, taking the right steps? >> yes, i think so. much delayed, but, in fact, they're doing the right thing. they're listening, they'r putting together a plan that will protectus into the future, disease we see in the unitedof statesand the president's plan to move forward, i think, is the right one. now, there have been a few missteps along the line, but i want to really emphasize tht, despite mistakes that have been made before this time, this is a battle, this is a war against a biologic enemy, and we all need to pull together as a country and fight ths war independent of our opinions about what happened in the pastr what ou political opinions of the current administration or other administrations happen to be. battle that we muwin, and we must win altogether. for a minute, though, i do want to ask you about those delays,
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much dayed, as think you put it. you have criticized the administration initial responses, many others have criticized the admintration's itial responses. what was inadequate about the initial response? many of the things that we're doing right now, increasing our personal protective equipment, increasing the number of ventilators, planning for hospital surge capacity, all could have been donein advance because we've known an epidemic is coming. e had a series of epidemics back from sars and ebola and ndemic flu and there's many epidemics in the history of mankind, even in the recent 15 in 20 years, that havdicated that this is a real risk, an ongoing riskto humanity, and we need to plan for these and we need to plan for them in advance, and that is the biggesp
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i've seen is the late plans thae implemented over the last few weeks tht could have been implemented a month or a month >> reporter: what is supposed to be the hub for plan hg in thi stration is the national security staff. in 2018 john bolton eliminated the ofce of global health security on the announce national security council staff. that's no the first time that happened. r e00lyuas 2ni adration eliminated it. job brought back. the obama administratioas eliminated iell. so this is actually a bipartisan blind spot. >> it is.e bush administration,n they came in, abolished the office altogether until 9/11 and the anthrax attacks. suddenly they re-created anth office it offveice, and that officetayed in place and did really good work til the next administration started.
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the next administration started, there were no more big epimics could tell, this was not an important issue for the national security environment, abolish the office again. >> reporter: you just said not an important issue for the national security environment. an extradinary statement, when we think about what is hap today. bout as you say, it's not angni politics. is it more about how the national security community doesn't coordinate withach other and perhaps doesn't take health seriously? >> yes, it's been the problem from the very start. the problem is a tribal one. the national security folks -- defense deptment, state department, intelligence agencies -- ey deal with hard hard-ball politics and hard-ball foreign policy. 'tdoeyan health -- in the past have not seen health except support for their own people the fact that health actually
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has national security implications has been a hard sell for 20 years, an that's the reason why they kept abolishingu he offices. uldn't have abolished the office of russian affairs at the nsc because sebody wasn't interested in russian affairs but they abolished te office of byo defense andealth affairs because each new foreign policy lead that would come in to the white house would say, ah, it's a , alth issnd it off to health and human services. >> reporter: let's fat forward back to today's crisis. a lot of state departmental offitell me they blame china, they blame china for covering this up, a if china had acted better, then we would be more ahead of the problem. do youee? ag >> it's possible, but essentially completely irrelevant. did the president's early decision to block those from china, especially from wuhan, entering the united states?
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absolutely. we were given a month of ext time to prepare for what would be inevitable in this country given the virus, and, instead, we spent most of our time worried about blocking boranders not enough time preparing for inevitable. >> reporter: ad bnard, tart co d trat we. all needet to come tr and we all need to win this battle. what does a good rponse loo like from here on out and how can we all be partf that? >> well, first of all, we all are beginning to work together on this. i haven't seen this in a long time, and i've never seen an outbreak or an epidemic like this in my entire li ie, and'm sure that's true for many people who are working on it. we all needll to fo the directions of the administration on social distancing, on, in m case out in california and in new york, wee sheltering at home. we're just not going anywhere.
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we need to do that. we need to tten the epidemic curve. we need to decrease the stress on our medical emergency systema because th going to be overwhelmed in the next two weeks. we also, as a government, need to aggressively pursue antiviral agents andther countermeasures, and i think any dollar that isn't spent on that that could be is a crime. >> reporter: dr. kenneth bernard, retired rear admiral and the former head of public health issues on the clinton and george w. bush administration national security counaffs, thank you very much. >> thank you. ut woodruff: europe is now the epicenter of theeak, with italy, spain and france contending with a flood of ten days ago, the attitude in but now, the stakes are higher,
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and the national feeling moredi. spial rresndenmalcm brabant is near his home in marlow, england tonight. malcolm? judy, the death toll in the united kingdom stands at 177. s the big news tonightat the government is promising billions to save jobs and businesses, and the prime minister has ordered close, to try to rduce the risk of contagion.ni the prime mier has urged everyone who can, to work at home. that's why my report comes from my hometown, marlow, 30 miles west of london. >> six, seven, eight... >> reporter: thiclass was the last chance for part-time teacher leah harris to earn before all british schools were uttered. it was the second blow in double time.ci her main d gig, in the show "42nd street," ended when covid-19 brought the curtains down across london's theatreland. >> it's just so sudden and very, very scary. where's the money evng to come from?
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producers are going to run out of money because they haven't got ticket sales goi out. who knows when it's going to >> reporter: beforing her doors tonight, jo noel hartley, the owner of this small theatre and drama scsu, honedis a >> wneed the government to pause all mortgage and rent payments. i think that's the most rtant thing. people need roofs over their heads, and i don't know how working for-- possibly for two months, without any income. listened.er: westminster ime minister boris johnson promised tenants protectionpo againsible eviction. >> it is very important that, as we ask the public to do ther right thing emselves and everybody else, that no one, whatever their income, should be penalized for doing the right thing. >> reporter: johnson was criticized for not closing schools sooner, but toy, pupils left campuses not knowing wh they will return. the school furlough means many parents will have to abandon work to provide child care. that adds to the worries of auto tr>>er tim platt. woke up in a cold sweat at about 3:00 this morning and then
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couldn't go back to sleep. >> reporter: platt's c dealership has been a pillar of the local economy for a century, but covid-19 pes an existential threat to even the most successful business. platt is determined retain his 50-strong work force. >> it's about, how do you get people spending money, keeping the circulation going? because if that circulation isn't there, it's goe very disruptive. >> reporter: tonight, prim minister johnson, and his finance minister rishi sunak,la issued a check to protect jobs and business. >> government grants will cover workers, up to a total of 2,500 mth. that's just above pothe meundian income. >> reporter: after being accused of dithering, the government t alight ordered pubs, cafes, and clubs to close, because so many people refused toxerce se-resaint some watering holes, like the ship, voluntarily went into dry dock before the ban came into force. >> you may think that you'reat d
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symptoms, and you cal be a on to others. >> reporter: the bottling plant at the local brewery ilysilent. normthis production line generates an annual turnover of. m co-ownk gloynes knows the line between profitability and catastrophe is razor thin. >> 80% of what we brew, we sell through the pub trade, and we've lost that pretty much overnight. >> reporter: gloynes hopes his on-site store can help cash flow. customer val cauldwell prefers to shop here tn in a national chain. >> i think it could kill the local economy, if we don't try to support theeople who are local to us. >> reporter: gloynes is committed to the livelihoods of his 60 staff. >> we might have to incrementally reduce people's hours down, and we might have to stop paying them proportionately. but we're hoping that, by the
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measures we're taking,hat we'll actually retain all the staff, and when hopefully things return to normal, whenever that will be, that we'll be able to current level of staff.ep >>ter: at the local radio station, director tim irnd kps finr urascohbfommner sr the public pulse. >> we're going to go through that period of denial, confusion, annoyance, anger, and then, sooner or later, within ten ds or so, we'll get that period of acceptance. >> reporter: but farmer anthy mash is defying advice to seniors to stay home. >> i can't sit there. i'd go stir crazy. >> reporter: mash is 79 years old.is two years ago,arm was incinerated. only the name plate survived. and i'm just anxious to see it rebuilt. and i likewatch every brick id, every nail that's put in. >> reporter: but, mash has heart problems. he's waiting for surge install a new valve.
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compromised. system is he's more vulnerable than most. >> i don't think it would hurt,c if i caught itally. i'd probably survive. i think i'm reasonably robust, apart from my aortic valve. >> reporter: so far, the local chiefs fear emergency oms follows italy. despite the skepticism of some british doctors, the prime minister is upbeat about fedeat w19hiitthn ree to do so, he insists, britain must endure the ghost town blues. malcolm brabant in marlow. oce t pence's staff has tested positive for covid 19. the white house says neither the president nor the vice pres ient
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has be close contact with the person. now, to help make sense of a t wet esn't seem real to shny of us, we turn to the analysis olds and brooks. that is syndicated columnist mark shields, and "new york times" columnist david brooks. and neither one of you is here with me. we are keeping you at what we think is a safe dise nce, but we glad that you're here. david, how do we make sense of this, you know, thining on that i think most of us could never have imagined?ea sorof hat split-screen rn to this. when you talk about regular people and how they're acting, i think it's been ae rmarkably good week, an uplifting week on the whole. this is 'sso smomngething th same exeriences and unergoing the same anxieties. in a weird way we had to be pulled apart to feel together. there are so manvacts i'e heard about people helping
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elderly in their apartment ildings, virtual cocktail parties, i feel it's a moment where socialonnection is in top most mind and people are finding innovative ways to e connect wich other. societywise, it's a good moment. politically i'm a little less sang win. president trump has much improved by his neuro sees and narcissism still sh an still give me pause. >> reporter: and i nt to ask you both abo that in a minute. but, for now, mark, how are you making sense of all this? >> judy, i'm nt su how much sense i can make of it. i mean, i don't disagree with david's assessment, but t, to m, what has been most revealing was revealedy the "wall street journal" and nbc poll is almost a political divide on the crisis, and that is the republicans, particularlyum president s most ardent supporters, have been quite resistant to accepting that this was a crisis and, in par
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congratulations of --cert efforr y little tst or confidence in our collective actioat whereas demohave been far more, perhaps of the skepticism abouth president trume been far more willing to accept that this is a gltobal, nional and so we're in political silos, and usually, historically, crisis have sort of brought us together and that, beyond the acts of k individualindness, has not occurred yet it mr. schi. >> woodruff: how do you see that divide out there, david. how serious is it? >> partly, we just see through tribal lenses these days. partly ihas to do with population density. the denser loations are
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but i think at th end of the. day, we're not in the italy phase yet. when we do, we will be terrified and there will be scary moments and i'm hon peful everybodye country, regardless of political belief, will season that and say, oh, yes, this is super real. >> woodruff: mark, how are you sizing up the leadership we are seeing this week, whether it's comingrhe white house, the governors, what are you seeing out there? >> well, the president's mood has changed, whether it was the intervention bycker carlson or just the weight of empirical evidence and listening, finally, to scientific voices in his own vicinity, the president's manner has been more rious and moe somber. at the same time, we com wback strength and a problem of his in
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the 2016 campaign that remains and that is -- the question is do you takre what donaldmp says literally or seriously? d to selena vito wro in 2016, donald trump's supporters to him seriously but no literally and the critics took him literally but ot seiously. you want in a leader someone yor can take susly and literally. the president has been corrected so manyimes on his misstatements, whether 15 cases going down tao zero, tht everybody can get a test ando we'r a verge of a vaccine, then the correction and amplification mes out that it does, i think, cripple him as an effectkesperson. just add to tha at, hisoack ivtodae y on peer robinson asta
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toutedlier in the ptomshour" was sitm that ability to be comforter in chief, consoler in chief, teacher in chief that is part of ide presidency. >> woodruff: dahow much does what is going on with the president matter at a time like this, and what about some of the governors who people are looking to and making different assessments of? >> well, even on his best day, the president is unnerving. the reporter who asked a veryt simple softball question, howyo woulcomfort people who are afraid? first, he revealed it was all about himself, he thought the fear was because he wasn't doing a good jb, and then triggered by empathy. that was unnerving. i worry aut actu production. are we actually producing tests? that to me is still an unanswered question. we can not lock down our entire society for an indefinite period of time. we have to moe to this total
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lockdown which we have to do now to a process where we test everybody and the people who ve thefection are isolated and the rest go on with their lives. so to me it's the actualod tion of stuff. when dwight eisenhower was running u.s. forces in world war ii hspent an enormous time on landing craft, the dull logidical things that you ne to get a process and institution to work in a crisis, and i don't iave confidence we're doing the dull, logistic ngs now. >> woodruff: that's something the white house has been talking about, mark, and is focusing on that, looking at legislation to address the health and medical wegent issues out there all as the economy, with so many people out of a jb. what do you see coming from congress? is it moving fastug artholnit eic dioides, aroi they to be so great as to even be able to find a remedy here? >> i think they will act, judy. i think the crisis is such that
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they'll find itin their own interest as well as the national interesto act. just one side bar and that is andrew cuomo, the governor of new york, deserves a shoutouthi foleadership as does mike dewine, even though controversially closing the primary tuesday, i think he's shown leadership, tpublican governor of ohio. but i think the congress is, d ju the divide philosophically, politically as to where the money should go. i'm always kind of fascinated by the captains of industry who, in everything that's good is their own doing and that all profits should be privatized. but in bad times and catastrophe, are run with a tin cup to the federal government to socialize their losses. i just have a s th inefimp proposal the
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airlines want the american people to underwrite thtom, dake them over, then become a public entity a, therefore, the c.e.o. is paid at the same rate as e member of congress, $174,000. the idea of subdizing an $11 million salary -- i'mle notn ta about flight attendants or machinists or mechacs, i'm talking about peple making $11 million -- that they shouu be sbsidized by taxpayers who themselves are beleagueredand besieged and scared is unacceptable. >> woodruff: what about that, david? d economist ken rogof open the "newshour" last night recese nothing we've ever seen. in oth words, we may be looking at a need for trillions and trillions of dolrs. >> yeah, and i think congress has at lthast responded wite right scope of size, starting at trillion, may have to gup to $2 trillion.
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i haveeen reading about pat pandemics, people in these fearful times are extremely sensitive to inequality that mebody is getting better treatment than them, so when you write the legistion, it has to go to those lower down the income scale. c it should beapped at a certain income, in form of unemployment ssurance and small iness reliefs to keep meeting payrolls and be in the fororm of 1. $2 trillion. i'm sort of shocked republicans wrote onbill and the democrats are going to come back with another. seems like in a moment of emergency they could write the >> woodruff: speaking of unfairness, mark, the reports day about senator richardr burr, th carolina, senator kelly loeffler of georgia selling stock in january whe they first heard privately about how bad coronavirus was going to sabe. they bot theyro did, not n'hing, but people are askiestions. >> judy, it's a time,
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especially, picking up on david's poiwhnten 49 members of the utzzah jaasketball team and company middle east get tested while hundreds of front line healthcare workers can't even get tested, you know,here special privilege and speci president seemed strangely indifferent to when the questio, tat's allou can sa if, in fact, they had a private briefing and then sold their stock. you know, senator loeffler, fine, somebo else did it. i have a private advisor doing this, i don't care. if this is the case that you were informed of what was happening and unloaded stocks that looked like they were going to be losers and took a profit, that truly is unacceptable, it blood money and has to be
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>>dr dprd oid? yeah, the ing that's going to determine success or failure in this crisis is one thing,l it's socolidarity, it's the idea we're all in this together, that we're all looking out for each other, nobody's trying to screw anybody else, and that requires what i think we'ren seeinge ground level is people reaching out to each other and feeling connected wit their neighboeighbors they may not have known. but it also requires leadership from the top and empathy. it requires a sense that everything is surrendered to tho common, and we enter this ngisis with all thohsei ts,els at such low ebb that we have no luxury here, we just have to develop and grow it in the worst s ssible way and, obviously, what those senatd or anything that looks like private tiering even if it's wrong, that is unacceptable. i mean, yeah, so, i mean, we've just got to keep social solidarity upper most on our
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mind. >> woodruff: on that note, david brooks, mark shields, thank you both and stay se. and that is the newshour for tonight. a anthe end of this week, that has rocked even the toughest among us, i again want to ask that we listen to o best instincts. take care of your loved ones and of yourself, and keep in mind i'm judy woodruff.in need. have a great weekend. thank you, stay safe, and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> fidelity investments. >> bnsf railway. >> consumer cellular. >> american cruise lines. >> the william and flora hewlett foundation. for more than 50 years, advancing ideas ind supporting stitutions to promote a better world. at wwwewlett.org.
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