captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm dy woodruff. on theewshour tonight: the death toll climbs. coronavirus claims more american lives, and the economic toll deepens. then, exiting. suspends his campafor the democratic nomination for president, leaving joe biden as the all-but-certain op for president trump. and, we continue our look at the front lines in the fight against the virus. how emergency room doctors are dealing with the demands of their job and their own health. all that and more, on tonight's pbnewshour. >> major funding for the pbs

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ng off in parts of europe, with similar signs in new york state, despite t number of deaths hitting a new high there. we begin with john yang, reporting on the day's events. >> nation's coronavirus epicenter, governorndrew cuomo said the hospitalization rate may be slowing. ur>> we are flattening the by what we are doing. >> yang: but, that doesn't mean pople should be any less vigilant. >> if we stop what we are doing, you will see that curve change. that curve is purely a function of what we do, dayn and day out. >> yang: in fact, yesterday saw the highest number odeaths yet in a single day-- nearly 800. in new york city, there have been so many deaths, the city is using refrigerated trucks to store remains. and, new york's numbers show african americans and hispanics

there are dying at higher rates than whites. >> we're here for you an support you. >> yang: amid the grim work on the medical front lines, signs of support-- police officers, firefighters and health care workers cheered each other outside a hospital in newark. meanwhe, the university of washington's forecasting model, one of many often cited by thee whituse, lowered its estimate of u.s. coronavirus deaths. today, it projected more than 60,000 americans would die by early august-- down from4,000. but, the university of washington's model has been onde the low and there are questions about the accuracy of the official death count. some say it may overlook thosee who die at homwithout seeking meedcal care, and those who without being tested for coronavirus. in washington d.c., trum administration officials say they are planning for life after the pandemic, but cautioned that was stl a ways off. dr. anthony fauci on "fox news." >> if in fact we are successful, it makes sense to at least plan

what a re-entry into normality would look like. that doesn't mean we're going to do it right now, but it means we need to be prepared to ease into that. >> yang: dr. deborah birx on nbc's "tod" program. >> what's really important is that people don't turn these early signleof hope into ing from the 30 days to stop the spread. it's really critical. and you can sethe delay. so if people srt going out again and socially interacting, we could see a very acute second wave, very early. >> yang: president trump expressed optimism on twitter, saying the u.s. uld "open up our great country sooner rather than later." in geneva, theorld health organization director-general responded to the president's andled that the group mi the pandemic. national level and global level, that's when the virus succeeds >> yang: in britain, where more6

th00 people have died, prime minister boris johnson isg said to be getetter after a third night in the hospital. >> his condition is improving.yo i can also telthat he has been sitting up in bed and engaging positiviny with the clal team. >> yang: spirits were also high in wuhan, china, where the outbreak began, after its 76-day lockdown was lifted. tens of thousands of people rushed to leave the city of 11 million, clogging bus terminals and train stations.it auths in masks and protective gear checked travelers for fevers. for some who had been stuck in wuhan, it was a welcome relief. >> ( translated ): i haven't been out since january 21. this is the first time i left the house today. now i'm going back home to meet my parents. >> yang: at day's end, the city celebrated with a light show. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang. >> woodruff: and now, to our

other lead story. with a narrowing path to victory and an end to normal campaigning due to the pandemic, senator bernie sanrs today suspended his presidential race. r lisa desjardins reports. >> desjardins: from his home in announced he is ending his fight for the democratic nomination for president. >> so, while we are winning the ideological battle, and while wr winning the support of so many young people and workingle pehroughout the country, i have concluded that this battle for the democratic nomination will not be successful. >> desrdins: former vice president joe biden is now the likely candidate to take on esident trump. the democratic socialist and independent senator from vermont has guably single-handedly moved the democratic party to the left. his underdog 26 campaign against hillary clinton was also a movement, raising new attention to ideas likmedicare for all, free public college, and aggressive climate action.

in the 2020 race, many o sanders' democratic rivals adopted his proposals. >> it was not long ago that people consided these ideas radical and fringe. today, they are mainstream ideas, and many of them are already being implemented in cities and states across the country.ha that is what w accomplished together. >> desjardins: he used his addrestoday to make another push for single-payer healthcare, in light of the coronavirus pandemic. >> this current horrific crisis xposede are now in has how absurd our employer-based system is.it as led to a massive loss ofan jobsresulted in millions losing their health insurance.s: >> desjardanders won the most votes in the first three alntests of 2020, with ardent

supporters, espe among the young and in hispanic communities. he was positioned to be the front-runner. >> the reason that we are going to win is that we are putting together an unprecedented, multi-generational, multi-racial political movement. >> this campaign is taking off! >> desjardins: but starting in south carolina, biden began racking up blow-out wins, and didn't stop. he quickly built an insurmountable delegate lead. after sanders dropped out, biden said, >> he's inpeired voters, ally young, to champion him in a progressive vision for our country. he didn't just run aolitical campaignhe created a movement and that's a good thing for the nation and our future. >> desjardins: president trump weighed in on twitter, saying,"t

s ended just like the democrats anthe d.n.c. wanted. the bernie people should come to the republican party." in his address, sanders said heill continue to collect delegates to influence the party's platform at the convention. he currently has some 914 delegates, out of the nearly 000 up for grabs. >> woodruff: although senator sanders is no longer in the, rae issues he ran on still resonate with many in the democratic party. here to discuss those, the race ahead, and more, senator sherrod brown, democrat from ohio. he endorsed joe biden yesterday. senator brown, thank you very much for joining us. even though setor sanders has dropped out or suspended his campaign, he says he istill going to be competing on the ballot in the coming primary states, that he wants to influence the convention. is that cicming things for the democratic party? >> no, not at all. bernie came to a meeting we had today, a meeting by phone with b of democratic senators. we talked about that. h

he alreas influenced this race and already has influenced the democratic party. we're now talking about a $15 nimum wage, we're talking aout dramatically expanding building on the affordable care act. i think bernie has had an impact, will continue to have an impact aout the dignity of work, about empoweringke wor, having an impact on the next coronavirus bill.en bernie's inf in the party is felt and will continue to be welcomed. >> woodrresident obama's strategist david axlerod today said if bernie saeanders lly wants to help joe biden, he's going to have to make a much more affirmative case for him. do you think he'll do that? >> i'm sure he willas hea decent relationship with the vice president. they're friends, thework together in the senate for not very long, i think three years. bernie and i came the same year in 2007. the ssce president, i gue left in early 2009.

but the answer is yes, bernie will beull-throwed for biden as i will be, as most of my colleagues, mae all of my colleagues will be. >> woodruff: do you think his supporters will be for end, too? >> i think his supporters will overwhelmingly be for biden.te no candi ever transferred his or her entireectorate supporters, his or her followers to another candidate. that never happens entirely. but keep in mind that -- you kn, that donald trump got well under 50% of the vote last time. hasn't grown his space at all. i think bernie sanders and kamala harris and a number of othe in this race, mayor pete, elizabeth warren brought more people into the system, and donald trump and very few will stay home because the contras is you want this president who

clearly is in over his head, who doesn't tell the truth, who has betrayed workers every single eny, do you want that pres or a president who's going to support workers and really fight for the dignity of work? and that's such a clear contrast. people are going to vote in huge mbers. you saw that yesterday in wisconsin. people are willing to vote even if they might get sick from voting. in this election and will play to the benefit of the vice preufdent. >> woo speaking ofhat, as you know, the democrats want to put at least $2 billion into legislation that would help -- that would strengthen states' ability to run elections that are fair, that are safe, and, yet, the republicans are fighting tha where do you think that's head headed. >> well, i was in ohio for eight years and ran the elction system, so i know how elections work in big sttes. i know there was very, very little vote fraud. i know donald trumpaid mail-in

balloting won't work, but he also said if w do mail-in balloting, no republicans will get elected again. our government should not expect anybody to go vote when their life is at risk, literally their life is at rithk if they get e coronavirus. so i can'ttcmagine that mcconnell is going to continue to block and donald trump is efforts so that people can votea ly and healthily, if you will. >> woodruff: sator, quickly on coronavirus, you mentioned what more needs to be done. you punched forr hazard pay fo frontline workers. do you think that's going to end up becoming law >> well, the president said he wants to do some hazard pay. he was s lking about nurd hospital workers, but it ought to also be city bus drivers, people who stock shelves in grocery store, it ought to be the people who clean up and do the laundry in the hospitals and clean the floors and the rooms. it should be people that are out

working delivery packages,i driving, aid, city buses, all of that. i think that will be a negotiation. mcconnell has resisted. negotiation to put money in a rental assistance fund. no one shuld lose their home, o one should lose his apartment as a resultf this oronavirus, and a huge number of people just last week who didn't pay their rent on april 1 when it was due, a huge number of people around the contry, they're facing immense har hip. 're going to help the airlines and wall street, that package mitch mcconnell wrote did that explicitly and we sure ought to help people stay in their apartments and homdres. >> wf: and finally, the president's response compared to your governor of ohio, also a republican mike dewine. >> that shows it's not a partisan thing. the governor of ohio, i have said very publicly, he and i ran

against each other onc so we're not necessarily pol allies our whole careers but we are now. the governor of ohio has savednd thouand thousands of ohios from getting sick because he took early action. the president of the united states has cost lives because he delayed and delayed and delayed. he called it a witch hunt, he called it a hoax, he said the demoats are trying to impeach him over this and, unfortunately, we' ore sev eight weeks behind in testing and our whole public health response inng getafety equipment to the workers and whether they're in grocery stort or firefs or nurses and doctors, and we're trying to make up for lost time. the president certainly has not been helul in that, and the governor of ohio has been very good. >> woodruff: senator sharrod brown of ohio. thank you very much and we hope you stay sae. >> you, too. thank yo woodruff: in the day's other

news, wall street focused on hopes that a coronavirus peak may be near. the dow jones industrial average gained 780 pois to close at 23,433. the nasdaq rose 203 points, and the s&p 500 added 90oints. americans will start receiving direct deposits in their bank accounts next week for coronavirus aid. that is what treasury secretary steven mnuchin told house democratertoday. the cotion was part of a push to get more aid to small businesses. the trump administration wants another $250 billion for the newly-created payroll protection program. top democrats-- house speaker nancy pelosi and sate minority leader chuck schumer-- ued

for more money for hospitals, food stamps and other needs. in afghanistan, the government eed 100 taliban prisoners today, and said it wee part of an ant between the insurgents and the u.s. the prisoners were held at the bagram jail, near kabul. afghan officials said they are among some 5,000 detainees t tt are supposgo free. >> ( translated ): 100 taliban were freed by the national rectorate of security and attorney general's office, after taliban's qatar office and the released prisoners themselves pledged that they will not return to the battlefield. these 100 prisoners are part of the list which was agreed on by the taliban's technical team and the government's technical team during their negotiations in kabul. >> woodruff: the taliban said it has not verified that those released are in fact on the agreed-to list. just yesterday, taliban officials said they broke f talks citing lack of progress on the prisoner release.uc a driver pled guilty today in the deaths of 39 migrants found in a truck in england. pmaurice robinson entereda to manslaughter. his refrigerated truck was discovered outside london last october. police found the bodies of

mese migrants who died o lack of oxygen and overheating. police believe traffickers smuggled them into england. the vatican has named a new commission today to consider o whether ain women as roman catholic deacons. s pe francis created the panel, as the church fashortage of priests. deacons are allowed to preside at weddings, baptis and funerals, but not to perform mass. a central figure in the impeachment of president bill clinton s died. her lawyer says linda tripp passed away today. he did not give a cause of death. tripp secretly recorded monica lewinsky discussing sexual encounters with the president. y at led to his impeachment, but he was acquittede senate. linda tripp was 70 years old. and, grammy-winning singer-pr songwriter johe died last night in nashville, after contractg the coronavirus. his half-century career began

in chicago clubs, and earned accolades for songs depicting ordinary people and their frustrations and pleasures. his best-kwn works included "angel from montgomery" and "sam stone." john prine was 73 years old. still to come on the newshour:rn the go of arkansas, on why his state in not sheltering in place. on the front lines with homeless in the pa-- the risks ofiving on the streets amid covid-19. plus, how coronavirus is rocking the navy. and,uch more. >> woodruff: for states across the country battling coronavirus, grim remiers the pandemic's toll come every day. in arkansas, one of just five

states with no stay-at-home order in place, the number of 0 nfirmed positive covid-19 cases crossed 1,day. republican governor asa hutchinsonoins me now from little rock. governor hutchinson, thank you very much for joining us. as we just said, over 1,000 confirmed cases today. how are you doing, how isthee stnaging all this? >> we're working hard, and thanks, judy, for theop rtunity to talk about some of the things we're doing in arkansas. we have a veryr tageted response to this. we've closed schools, we've closed bars and restaurants, tattoo parlors, barber shops, hair salons, and down the list, a veryrgeted approach to it, in addition enforcing social distancing, and i've set the example of wearing masks whenever you can't social distcing. we go in stores, probably

three-haurths of people masks on. that's the kind of effort we're and, yes, it's having success. yes, we went to over 1,000 cases today, but, as you can see, all the projections show that we're beating the projections, we're flattening that curve our hospitalization rate is one of the lowest, particularly in our region. and, so, whenever we're having k thd of success, we will measure to see what more we need to do. if we ned to do me, we will. but right now, we are poing everything we have into this effort. >> woodruff: as we said, you are one of the handful of states that still has t issued a stay-at-home order to your residents of, what,eo 3-some-millione of others. dr. anthony fauci of n.i.h. says he thinks all states should do that. we know a number of other experts have said that. why did you dec?ide not >> dr. futurey, since he made that statement, have talked to some of theth governor have

not issued a shelter in place and said you're doing things that arrye complemeno what is being done and was pleased and he made the comment the i th he realizes what we're doing supports the effyoort. asked about a shelter-at-home, if we did it tomorrow or i did it today iar nsas, you always exempt essential services whi means 7,000 arkansans would get up grocery store, go out forthe exercise, which is permitted in all the states. washington state has a shelter in place, but the marijua ops are open, you can still go get your marijuana. sohe exemptions overre the rule. we want to do things that actually work and make a difference in our social isstancing, our wearing masks what is working in arkansas. >> woodruff: so you don't think that by not require org ordering people to stay home

not putting other people atsk >> no, i think that, as long as they do wht they're supposed to do, which is social distancing, wear a mask when you're out, this accomplishes the purpose without doing something tharet ly doesn't make a difference, which is acting like you're going to be doing something with a shelter in place when, ifact, everybody can still go out. people are using their own good judgy nt. the eldee staying at home. they're not going out, and, so, we're doing enforcement efforts. so this idea that just because yodon't have a technical shelter-in-place order in patace ou're not doing enough, please look at the data, please look at wht we're accomplishing, and we're doing as well or better than the neighborwho have the shelter-in-place orders in place. >>oodruff: quickly, when mayor or someone overseeing aio

local jurisdi the mayor of little rock, said they would like to go further where they are, you've said no. >> well, we want te a statewide policy, and i've given the mayors, the local jurisdictions authority for limited curfews and to close certain city or county facilities that might be problematic, if people are not following the restrictions on public gatherings. so we have enforcement too in place, we're working together, but it should be a statewide policy whenever we're impacting commerce. >> woodruff: governor, are you pltting what you need in order to treat the pewho come down with the coronavirus in arkansas? >> well, like said, we have 80 hospitalizationswe have ove 8,000 -- about 8,000 available beds, and we've eliminated our elective surgery, and, so, you casee that we have a lot hospitals that are empty right now and healthcare workers that are empty. but we have about 80 hospitalizations.

we're watching it very closely. our concern is ther potective equipment for our healthcare workers. we've edout exhauthe federal stock pyle that came to us, and, so, were on the market trying to bring it in. the challenge is getting flights and cargo to deliver those supplies to us from places like china, where re making the acquisition. so we've invested $75 million in arkansas to buy tat protective equipment. we hope that arrives soon. a >> woodrufd finally, those who are out of work, arkaans who are out of work, small businesses that have had to close down temporarily, how confident are you that these folks are going to get the assistance that they need? >> well, i believe they will get the assistance. the federal money is starting to flow.there will still be some dy because, once the federal paycheck hits the stte, we have to actually build a system in order to deliver some of the proceeds from the paycheckon protecct, and, so, we've

got to do a lot of work there. the money for the unemployed is starting to flow.'v processed abut 100 -- over 100,000 claims to date, and they're starting to gethose benefits. so the money is flowing. some of that is going to be ao little biter, and the money for the larger businesses to keep the employees working and on the payroll, that money is starting to be available through >> woodruff: governor asa hutchinson of arkansas, we wish you the very best with all of this. thank you very much. >>hank you, judy. >> woodruff: nework state now has roughly 150,000 confirmed cases of covid-19. that is more than any entire country in the world, outside of

the united states. health care workers on the front nes are feeling the pressure acutely, not to mention the for their families own risks and amna nawaz has our conversation tonight on how that is playing out r an e.r. doctor there. >> nawaz: over three weeks ago, dr. dara kass was working around the clock, treating coronavirus patients in a hospital emergency room in new york city, epicenter of america's outbreak. with days, she developed symptoms herself, and tested positive for the virus. after quarantining at home,e now recovered, and this week, returned to the frontlines to connue to care for the influx of patients. she joins us now from new york dr. kass, let me start by saying we're all so glad that you are feeling better. we're allo grateful for t work you. do let's start with that.u how are eling and describe what it was like, for us, when you were sick. >> first and foremost, feel very lucky. my symptoms were on the very mild side but they were very

real, so i had muscle aches and fatigue, i had a terrible cough. that basically ierrupted all of my metings and speeches. i had shortness of breath. if i was walking from my room ta thhroom i had to stop and be, like, am i okay? a i headache that was pretty persistent. there was a point where i was getting better from coronavirus busn't sure if i still had with the anxiety and the panic of everything that was goingn. >> reporter: you're back in the emergency room. this week is your first shift back. you described it like a pressure cooker and the situation has changed a lot ink new ynce then. tell me whatteth like back there today in that emergency room. >> before i went out and even when i was sick and doing telemedicine, it felt like there was an increasing background ofk patients that ew were at home but were getting sicker and wenew would enup in the e.r. after two or three weeks we're seeing the level of patient in

the e.r. that would be home and now ten, twelve days into their illness, they come in aned ventilation and support, we're still ahead of the curve and distancing paying off, so that's the most encouraging thing i've seen in the e.r. >> rerter: we have been hearing from frontline healthcare workers out the lack of p.p.e. and things they need to treat the coronavirus patients. do you have what you need?>> think, today, we do. i think that that's important to recognize tht, every day, we need new ventilators, we need more p.p.e.s. they're using masks and gloves and gowns on every single patient, and it's important we keep vigilant on procuring the supply chain and getting tntilators from arou country and the stockpiles from new york to meet the neetos have the patie have in new york. i feel for today we're okay but every day that changes, and we need to be aggressive to make sure the suplies are available to the frontline staff.

>> reporter: i wanted to ask, before yo got sick, you made a tough call which was to send your kids whore twelve and ten and seven years old away from you to live with their grandparents in the next state over. how hard a call was that to make? >> it was hard decision andit came to me in a moment. i had known there was about an 80% transmission rate in any given house and healthcare workers toe likelet infected. i had a son who had a liver transplant when he was two. he's seven and relatively healthy andooks great. i didn't want them to have a chance of getting the virus. so i said pack them up, they probably like it better than my house, and send them there a few days. there's no data on when to come ba together and we don't have enough testing in new york to test me negative. fonow, they live home, i live in a hotel. we'll do a zoom after bath time

is over. that the will be our experience. >> reporter: youuraven't seen ids in a month. it must be hard. >> it isn't easy, everybody is making a sacrifice and this is mineou >> reporter:re in a unue position because you survived the virus. you are on the front lines of treating people who have it. what advice do you have for all the many people out there whoar worried about getting it, who are coping with it and worried about their loved ones? >> i think that the most imsrtant thing i can say take it one day at a time, right. realize that themajority of people that get this virus will be okay, b at it will be hard-fought journey. st beng hospitalized alone is traumatic. one to have the things which we're seeng is unxpected and uncommon for many people is, when you get hospitalized wi this, you're very much alone. it's hard for families who are used to advocating for their loved ones to not be able to hear about what is hap with them in the hospital. it's a one day at a time moment

where tu're thankful for wh you have, address the problems in front of you and keep moving forward as beoustan. >> reporter: good advice for all of us regardless of thee times we'r. dr. dara kass joining us from new york city tonight. thank you very much, doctor, and stay safe. >> thank you so much >> woodruff: as many americans do what they can to protect themselves andheir communities from coronavirus, stephanie sy reports on how people experiencing homelesess are uniquely vulnerable, and what's being done in some states help them through the pandemic. >> reporter: until coronavirus me ashore, homelessness was the biggest epidemic in many u.s. cities. now, one crisis is collidingth nother. >> people are supposed to stay in, but i don't see how that'ser possible when s a lot of us around.

>> they need to open up a church, and quarantine and do something because they say it's going to get worse before it gets better. right now, i'm taking a chance with my life being out here, >> reporter: it's o follow safer-at-home orders when you don't have a home. preventing the spread of covid-19 among people living outside is particularly hard. jeffey norris is the medical director of father joe's villages in san diego. >> the biggest concern within an enmpment is that if covid- gts in there, you have very, very few ways to mitigate thedo spread, to slo the spread of that virus. >> repter: and for the health of those individuals in encampments, to bring them inside, should tharibe a pr right now? >> yeah, should definitely be a priority. i think getting themccess to food, bathrooms, hand hygiene,

in a way that's reasonably safe. physical distancing sufficiently spread out is absolutely essential. if we don't do that and covid-19 gets into encampments, the risk of high death rates is substantial. >> reporter: crowded shelters e also potential incubators of the virus, and couldreccelerate thad of covid-19. in recent years, infectious diseases such as hepatitis and typhus spread rapidlhese communities, and beyond. but, people experiencing homelessness are more at risk than they are a risk, says bobby watts, c.e.o. of the national healthcare for the homeless council. >> that is public health and epidemiologist's worst nightmare. they are more vulnerable because they have weaker immune systems due to the chronic stress of not having a stable placive, of not having good nutrition, of having more underlying health conditions.re and theyn contact, in congregate settings more

frequently. so they are more vulnerable, and exposed. more likely to be this is a serious public health problem, and we have to treat it as such. >> reporter: cities have addressed the probrem to varying . in las vegas, a parking lot was set up in desperation,dso put up hundf people who were displaced when a local shelter had to close dueo a single coronavirus case. the only nod to social distancing guidelines here? painted boxes on the asphalt, completely unenforceable. criticized.ry fiwas widely former housing and urban development head julian castro tweeted, "there are 150,000 hotel rooms in vegas going unused right now." in san francisco, r.v.s are part the alternative housing strategy for quarantining patients. the state has leased them through june. >> the intent of these vehicles are for people who have tested positives for covid-19, do not

require hospitalization, and have no place to go. >> reporter: and furth in san diego, city officials have converted a hall in the massive convention center into a 1,500-cot communal dwellinwith access to other basic services. >> meals, showers, restrooms, laundry services. most importantly health screens. >> reporter: but ask many people experiencing homelessness what they need, and it sounds prettp : a room, and a restroom, how can people supomeless individuals at this time? >> give them a home. >> i think they should, instead of putting everybody in onyb room, tiny homes. because, you know, they're cheaper to maintain and stuff like that. >> if there were more opportunities for more spots to find showers to clean ourselves? to be honest, with the virus

going around, the biggest fearis ot being able to clean. we can't wash our hands, we're exposing ourselves. >> reporter: with lockdowns grounding tourists and busines travelers, some states are procuring hotel rooms for those who are at high risk or have covid-19 symptoms. lifornia governor gavin newsom, who has projected up to 60,000 homeless people could contract the virus and overwhelm hospitals, says the state is trying to secure 15,000 hotel rooms. >> what we want to do is relieve the stress in our shelter system so we can separate individuals and ultimately, again, relievee pact in our medical care delivery system. >> reporter: boston is planning d allocate beds for the homeless in vacam rooms and abandoned medical l cilities. norris says spectention should be given when transitioning people from a shelter enviroent to a private room. >> the challenge with hotel

rooms is that the number of staff and the amount of case nagement support to manage a large number of rooms like that is substanal. a lot of individuals who are coming out of a shelter setting into a hotel room require a lot of care, not just health care, but social services support. permanent housing and healthcare to all the half a million peop experiencing homelessness in the u.s. at any given time is no easier now than it was beforeem the pand. >>his pandic has exposed the structural inequities in our, and weaknesses in our health care and housing systems and policies. the same things that we are doing now to reduce the epidemic are the things that we should have always been doing. and theyre the things that we should continue to do to prevent the next epidemic. >> reporter: as covid-19 continues to spread sndiscriminately, it revealing america's extremes, and many locales a urgently addressing the needs of their

most vulnerable citizens. advocates only wish it hadt taken a pandemic for theto do . for the pbs newshour, i'm stephanie sy in phoenix. >> woodruff: now, to how the pandemic is affecting the u.s. military. as othis morning, the pentag says it has more than 3,000 positive cases across the services. that includes more than 150 sailors on an american aircraft carrier currently docked in guam. that created its own story. nick schifrin has more >> schifrin: judy, it has been a tough week for the navy. first, the captain of the aircraft carrier "theodore memo, requesting to evacuate 90% of his crew because of an

outbreak of covid-19. in response, acting navy secretary thomas modly relieved him, saying he had gone around the chain of command. modly then flew to the "theodore roosevel on guam, and gave a blunt speech, including this statent: n: >> schifesterday, modly resigned, after widespread criticism. for more on this, i'm joined bti d admiral mike mullen. he served as chairman of theie joint of staff during the george w. bush and obamas. administrati admiral, thank you very muc welcome back to the "newshour". hodining do you think the navy has handled this situation? >> as you've said, it's been a tough week, an it was very clear that the navy couldn't get out in front of this early enough before the acting secretary

moy grabbed it and obviously made up his mind to remove c.o. uesre are an awful lot of iss associated with that. that said, i didn't think captain crozier's conduct rose to where he should have been relieved. >> reporter: what was told us the chain of command, he sent this memo electronically, dn't cc his commanding officer down the hall literally from him at the time. ishat criticism legitimate? >> well, i think that, certainly, capta crozier did not handle all of it exceptionally well and it is, deed, strange that he appeared relationship with his immediate boss who was embarked on the ship with him.that said, i thinn croziewas what all c.o.s try

to do, take care of their people and especially in the middle of a crisis and it was an exponential crisis. i think crozier's letter is a cry for help and moving as fast as possible becaushe was afraid some of his young sailors were going to die. he didn't do smooth will you, but, athe same time, it didn't meet the standard i thinwhere he should have been relieved. >> reporter: we've talked about how secretary modly did have to go, iyour opinion. do you think he had to go because to have the fact he fired captain crozier or thee language used on the theodore roosevelt ? >> i listened to his speech on the theodore roosevelt . i've never heard any senior cir lian or senficer talk like that to the crew and, fro my perespective, he walked off that ship, that was the time for him to walk out of the navy. there just wasn't my question about it.

didn't have any credibility left with the troops, he didn't have any credibility left, apparently, with the administaltion. so he , for the good of the navy, he needed to move on, which is what he did. >> let broaden the discussion tohe overall response to we've now seen thousands of members of the military come back with positive responses. i've spoken to some people who couple of things, one, not for a responding quickly enough,ut also deputizing some of these decisions to lower-l commanders, allowing lower-lel commanders to decide how to respond to covid 19. is that a legitimate criticism? how do you think the pentagon has done overall in response to >> i think the response to have the pentagon is not unlike the country's, how do you get ahead of this because it moves so quickly and you don't have the testing ability to find out how

seriouit is. there are certa forces in south korea that have done well on this because it appears general abrams moved as the so, h koreans moved very rapidly. decisions are always fraught with how much do you control and how much do you let your commands take care of? by and large the military at the commander level,he flag and general officer level, should have a good handle on how to handis and then they delegate it down or give direction down the chain of command to handle it well. there certainly is so evidence it's not well understood on the waterfront, there are on the waterfront and that need to be solidified, not just the navy but throughout the services. >> reporter: going forward, you feel the navy is ready to handle a pandemic, to handle this find of medical challenge as it's trying to handle theat challenge hina poses? >> actually, i think the navy id ready that and actually

has been handling it for weeks, and it needs bviously have the right focus, make sure that the measures that are taken e minimizing the risk to the troops and putting the trops in a position whereheir prority and at the same time aware to have the mission specifically out in the westernacific wit respect to china, and leaders need to focus hard on getting it righpo >> reer: admiral, you just said a challenge for all leaders. i have to sk, how do you think president trump has responded to this crisis? >> i think it's pretty wela consensus that we haven't acted very quickly -- the admistration hasn't acted very:00ly and, from a leadership standpoint, you kno when you're in a crietsz, there's nobody more critical than lead. at any level of the chain of command of any organizion. think it's important that leaders, what the president says, how he says it, in addition to what he does, eeaders need to walk the walk, not just talk ttalk, and i

think that's really critical for the country and actlly for the world. >> reporter: and it sounds like you're criticizing theou president,s like you're suggesting that he hasn't done that. >> well, i'll let you deduce what you want to from tha comment. >> reporter: admiral mike mullin former chairman to have joint chiefs of staff, thank you very much. >> woodruff: now to scandinavia, where sweden is experiencing a rising death toll amid doubt over its more relaxed strategy to combacovid-19. meanwhile, its neighbor denmark is set to ease some es its lockdownictions, because of a drop in the number of infections and deaths. special correspondent malcolm brabant lived in the danish capital for seven years, but joins us tonight from his home outside london. malcolm? >> reporter: judy, tonht, we're still in lockdown in

britain. here, we started off like sweden, withery limited restrictions, but then the government switched to the danish model of an almost total shutdown. this is a story of two similar nordic cultures, that differ widely on how to handle covid- at a time when moshe world is shuttered, sweden is open for business. markets and shops are trading. restaurants are serving. schools are educating. the swedes advoce limited social distancing. their strategy is to protect the vulnerable, while allowing the virus to spread through healthy people so they can develop antibodies. this is designed to create so-called herd immunity, whi theoretically should result in most people being safe. but today, the health authorities announced a further 96 fatalities. last night, president trump >> they talked aboden, approach. but sweden is suffering very greatly. you know that, right? sweden did that-- the herd. >> reporter: the s anti-

virus campaign is being led, not by the coury's prime minister, but by anders tegnell, an epidemiologist with experience of fighting ebola in africa. he responded to mr. trump this afternoon. >> no, we don't share his opinion. of cours everybody in the world is suffering right now, in cafferent ways. but swedish heal, which i guess he alludes to, it's very s fficult to understand, is taking care of t a very, very good manner. >> reporter: fellousscientist ma carlsson despairs of sweden being so out-of-step with most of the worl >> this, to me, sounds a bit like a madman. we are here playing n roulette with the swedish pulation. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: king carl gustav hinted at disapproval of government tactics as he urged swedes to cancel t annual getaway to country

cabins. >> ( translated ):ome of this will not be possible this easter. we have to accept this. we have to rethink and adjust to staying at home. >> my view is that it is a hopeful thing, that sweden is taking another path, that we don't have these draconian measures with police walking the streets stopping people from leaving their homes, and the mitary and so on. >> reporter: novelist and newspaper columnist lena andersson approves of what sheed believes is swh common sense. >> so i see it as sound rationality. once you get this explained by the authorities and the experts, people are grown up and adult enough to realize th it's the wise thing to do. >> it's not that we have to pick between locking down society for ioo years, or going for herd immunity to infe, which is what the swedes are doing. >> reporter: we met iranian-bor economno sanandaji in 2015. 's renned for challenging

and wishes the cou hadhought, followed some asian models. >> the south koreans are containing it. ckthey use mass testing, tg since that option exists--sks. because i believe that option ores exist-- the swedish authorities haveof dismissed it. it's just, "south korea is t do that."we ca why? >> reporter: in sweden the rate of deaths stands at 69 per million and rising, whereas five miles away, acrbrs the idge in denmark, it's 39 per million. ♪ ♪ the danes love community singing and what they call hygge, which translates as being cozy while staying at home. the state broadcaster has combined both components with a dailtelevised sing-a-long during a month-long lockdown. nationalpirits were lifted further earlier this week wh danish students in the last semester of high school were promised the chance of gradetion, with perhaps a mor restrained party than usual.

theyere told they could resu their education after easter. pupils aged under ten will alsot retuschool. but, amid concerns that there could be aesurgence of the virus, most businesses will remain locked down for a further month. prime minister mettese freder >> ( translated ): in reality, it will be a bit like a high wire act. if we stop up, we can fall. if we move forward tooly, something else can go wrong. and that is why we have to take one cautious step at a time. >> i am very, very happy to have been in denmark during all of this. it's a political decision, but it is extremely reassuring. got it right.es, i think they >> reporter: we met nordic expert michael booth four years ago. he's the author of book called "the almost nearly perfect people." >> we know the danes are the happiest people in the world, but they are ao the most trusting. the levels of trust between people, from the people to their institutions and even an their

politi which is the most remarkable thing, from a british or american point ofr:iew. >> reporhere's a sense of relief amongst danes that the curve appears to be flattening, and that their restraippears to be paying off. meik wiking runs a danish think tank focussed on well-being, happins and quality of life. we first met him in copenhagen four years ago. >> i think this is a testimony to the importance of trust. in political institutions, that guidelines.backing the usually, we also see that >> reporter: for thebeing, danes will keep on community singing. but, the swedes havbeen warned that the rising death toll may force the government to change its tune and impose tougher restrictions.for the pbs newshom malcolm brabant. >> woodruff: and on the newshour

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