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.at it could go much high meanwhile, state by state, the country is taking more steps toward reopening. stephanie sy begins our coverage tonight. >> reporter: barbers in omaha, nebraska were back at work today. >> financially it's been really bad, but i think i miss the atmosphere of being ab to cut hair and being around people. >> reporter: the state is further easing restrictions on some of the sinesses shuttered by the pandemic. owners say it's a positive step toward a new normal. >> we'll be doing appointments, appointments only because we can only have 10 people in the shop at once. >> reporter: the new wave of reopenings has come amid a push and pull across the country on when and how to resume public life. california governor said businesses in his state can in south dakota a porkthiseek in south dakota, a smithfieldin pork proceplant, formerly closed due to hundreds of covid- 19 infections, began partially reopening today. and boston was the scene of the latest protest demanding that

officials drop restrictions, as hundreds gathered outside the state capitol building. in the nation's capital, the senate gaveled in for the first time in more than five weeks. that wn't the case across the capi representatives opd to stay away while washington, d.c., remains a virus hot spot. over the weekend, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell and house speaker nancy pelosi declmied the trump stration's offer to provide the rapid testing being used to screen visitors at t white house. in a rare joint statement, they said those resourcesd go to front-line workers, where they "can do the most goodhe most qckly." meanwhile, on sunday, in a fox news town hall, president trump even as he upped his estimate on >> look, we're going to lose. anywhere from 75, 80 to 100,000 people. that's a horrible thing, we shouldn't lose one persoover this. >> reporter: and the "new york

times" reported today that internal administration documents now project the toll could nearly double by june, with about 3,000 deaths a day. the white house downplayed theyi report, it had not gone through interagency vetting. death toll of 135,000, due to relaxed social distancing. at the townhall mr. trump also claimed at the townhall, mr. trump also claimed early briefings from his failed to depict terity of the virus. >>atn january 23 i was told there could be a virus coming in but it was of no real import,ep >>ter: meanwhile, europe's hardest-hit countries are moving to loosen restrictns. small businesses in spain opened their doors to customers today, but owners lsana puebla, at this nail salon in madrid, said it is far from business a usual.

>> ( translated ): it is not the same; it's not the way it was before. it's complicated nowse we have to disinfect a lot more than before. but we are happy to be back.ep >>ter: and in italy, nearly 4.5 million people returned to work in certain industries as the country logged its lowest new death count since the lockdown began in march. where infections spiked by more than 10,000 in the past 24 hours, bringing the total tally to double what it was last week. the world remains on guard, and amid a global hunt for a vaccine, leaders, from saudi arabia to the european union, ined a virtual summit to pledge billions for research. the trump administration decided not to take part. for the pbs newshour, i'm stephanie sy. >> wdruff: let's talk about some of these new reports about the projected death tolls, how it may be worse than wt the president and some others had

thought recently. and what can be done to slow the read of covid. laurie garrett is a pulitzer prize-winning science journalist and writer whose career has been devoted to tracking andpo ing on infectious diseases. >> woodruff: thank you so much for joining us. we do have these apparently two new grim forecasts today. i want to ask abut the cdc report yet. the white house is saying it'ss, not their numbers but they are talking about bjune 1st, 34,000 death-- 3,000 dits a day, up to 200,000 new cases a day, this is the wrondirection. >> absolutely, judy. and it's a huge explosive growth they're predicting. and st basically, if youstook at the bution they are imagining st really the prairie states, the mississippi valley and the deep south states. and it seems, i think, though we don't have access to the raw

data that they are working with, but it does seem to coinside with these outbreaks that have been occurring inside of meat-packk plants, ng home a veterandministration hospitals that have claimed large numbers of workers in those facilities, but haven't yet generalized into the larger community. and i think they're projecting that there will be general station-- generalization that an infected meat packer, for example, might then infect the family members, some of those family members may infect loca store keepers and so on. so i think they're imagining a pretty explosive set of growth, reasin fairly small remote a and in many cases rural counties. >> and do younk it's the same explanation for this new del that we where told is coming today from the university of washington where they areoj ting the total number of deaths in the u.s. as35,000,

yeah beyond what it was before. is your reading of it sayg factors a at work here? a lot of the details that areen .sed for the analyses yet but i think they're also looking at higher than expected new infections and deaths in this swath of states that is the mississippi valleregion all the way up to the canadian border. >> woodruff: i want to ask you to listen to some things that we heard from president trump in recent weeks. and ask you questions coming out of that, let's listen. >> the data suggests that nationwide we are pasped the on new cases. a minimum, if we did knock would have been 1.6, if you cut thatha inf, are you talking about 800,000, 900,000, a million people dying but we did a lot of work. and i think right now we're

hitting at probably around 60, maybe 65,000. >> i think wee done a gat job. as you know, minimum numbers were-- minimal numbers were going to be 100,000 people. minimal numbers were going to be 100,000 people and we're going to be hopefullyfar below that. >> woodruff: and laurie, i think a lot of people want to know, how is it that these projections could have been so off, if it turns out to be these new numbers are right? >> well, first of all, this is not a stagnant situation. we have been trying to respond to t virus. so measures have been taken, inu vakey states, new york, washington state, california, massachusetts, taking very strong steps to try and mitigate the spread by having people go into lockdown. con versely we have a number oft statt have decided to actually back off, the state of ohio today just said athe

governor wants companies to be required to report the nam of workers who don't go tothe job. as they open up. but you know, the government i demanding that you must risk your life. you must go ito a meat packing plant. you must go on to a job site. seo we h lot of actions being taken that make the situation quite fluid. and whatever the snap shot of a moment is, th you make r projections off of, is by definition, going to be a different snap shot tomorrow. and a different one the next day. >> they're working and yet the picture is more compli kailted than that. what is the message then laurie garrett to the american people of all thicls, that arly that they need to continue to practice the soaption distancing,-- social distancing, hand washing, just the basic elent that we have been practicing. but what moree can amcans be doing? >> i think at this point if ire

he governor of any of these states that is projected to see significant increases, i would be ordering a lot testing that is targeted to give me some of policy guidance. i would test in meat packing ants. i would test in school settings, if there are schools still openr nursing home. every assisted ling center, any place wheri still he people cohoused, veteran's administration centers. and i would want to know, do i have a trend, day by day thatow increased transmission and if i do, then that is a targeted community.that is where i direcy resources. i have to solve this pblem immediately. if we don't take smart steps, guide our testing in wse ways, then we're just going to be ailing around racing behind the virus which would be consistently, judy, way ahead of us. >> woodruff: and wirch other thing laur garrett, you have

said for a long time that americans never sufently invested in public health and that that is what is underlying so much of this. >> absolutely. i mean just look at one of the key markers that indicates whether or not you as an individual are liky to have a severe outcom if infected and potentially succumb to covi disease. it's hypertension. >> hypertension is the cheapest, easiest intervention imaginable. you know, just fl the cuff on, check your blood pressure. and we have a raft of medications that will help you. we know how to bring down high blood pressure. that is a perfect marker for lack o access tcon sition ent public health intersphrorm vengs and medical care. when youhe look at tacial distribution and the class driks covid, you can see it is exactly the same as who is not getting

treated for tir hypertension, who is not getting basic heah interventions on an ongoing base is. but a huge pecentage of american has no consistent heth care, doesn't havea doctor by name. a situation, a crisis of this scale hits, they have nowhere to turn. we have a patch rk moic of public health systems, a patch work mosaic ofn guidances government responses. you cross a county line and it is a who different ballgame. this is not the way to stop a national epidemic. this is chaos. >> no question, lot of us are so much more fortunate than many, many other americans. laurie garrett, thank you so much for putting it in perspective. laurie garrett.list and writer thank you. >> thank you, judy. >>

>> woodruff: in the day's other news, the u.s. treasur it will borrow a record amount in this quarter to cover pandemic relief-- nearly $3 trillion. that's well ov twice the total for all of last year. meanwhile, treasury secretary steven mnuchin warned it's hard to tell if internationalravel can restart this year. he said americans should fus on resuming domestic travel. for the first time ever, the u.s. supreme court heard oral arguments by phone today, due to the pandemic. was heard, live.irst, the audio the case involved whether thetr el website "booking.com" has the legal right to trademark its name. we'll return to today's hearing, later in the program.co the supremt of israel jaard legal challenges today to prime minister bn netanyahu's governing coalition. he struck a deal last month with former rival benny gantz.

among other things, it lets netanyahu remain in office despite facing trial on rgrruption charges. his defense teamd today to a panel of 11 judges, all in face masks, that the governing bloc is legitimate. >> ( anslated ): we are in situation where in fact, inside this government are the two poles of the israeli public. it's not that the government is not formed. the coalition and opposition were brought into the government and were given the possibility to serve together. >> woodruff: if the court rejects the coalition deal, it could trigger a forth election in a little more than a year. separately, the justices are considering whether netanyahu can rein in office. back in this country, the secretary of the u.s. senate iaclined joe biden's request to release any poterecords involving a sexual assault allegation. the secretary cited

confidentiality rules. rmer staffer tara reade says then-senator bidenssaulted her in 1993, and that she filed a report. this year's pulitzer prizes were announced today. and "pro-publica" and the "anchorage daily news" took theu ic service prize, focusing on policing in alaskan villages. "the new york times" won for dereporting on russian pre vladimir putin's regime, and for investigative reporting and commentary. "theashington post" won for explanatory reporting on the environment and extreme temperatur. in the arts, the prize for drama went to michael r. jackson for his musical "a sange loop." colson whitehead won his second fiction prize, this ti for "the nickel boys," about a reform school in florida. wall street managed modest gains today, after recovering from initial losses. the dow jones industrial average added 26 points to close at 23,749. close at 8,710.71,the s&ps to

500 was up 12. and, the winningest coach in pro footll history, don shula, has died at his home in south florida. he racked up 347 wins over 33 seasons with the baltimore colts and then, the miami dolphins. in 1972, he led miami to the n.f.l.'s only undefeated season, winning the super bowl that year and the next.don shula was 90 y. ill to come on the newshour: the trump administration continues to criticize china over the spread of the coronavirus. and capturing images of the pandemic: perspective from ais photojourn

>> woodruff: wh the number of cases expected to increase for the next severaleeks, many experts say the next phase in the response will require aggressive contact tracing. amna nawaz repor on how the tracing works, why it could help, and the concerns over pracy. >> nawaz: krysta cass' path to medicine was not the n a west point grad, she served three tours of duty for the u.s. army, then went on to beco a physician's assistant in boston. in march, like many places ring the pandemic, all elective surgeries here were paused. >> we can't operate and replace hips and knees rht now, i just kept thinking, what can i do? how can i help? how cai be involved in this public health crisis? >> nawaz: massachusetts has nearly 70,000 confirmed cases of covid-19, and last month, governor charlie baker gave krysta her answer, announcing a new phase in the state's fight against the virus: aggressive contact tracing. >> i was one of the first

applicants. i could not wait to get my hands on this.: >> nawkrysta was hired by onpartners in health, a bo- based global health non-profit working with the state to hire, train and deploy a thousand new contact tracers at a cost of $44 million. the process is straightforward but time-intensive: fi contact all new confirmed cases of cov 19, find out everyone they came into contact with whilsick, then reach out to those people to tell them they may have been exposed, and will need to quarantine. ouwhat are the first lines deliver to people? >> so i would say hi, i'm krista. i'm calling from the community tracing collaborative for theme depa of health, working to so i'm calling to let you know that you've been exposed in the past week to someone who was diagnosed recently wh covid 19. and then i take a break, because that's a that's a lot to handle and a lot a lot toear. >> nawaz: the work, she says, is about more than just informing people they mighhave been exposed. contact tracers explain how to quarantine the right way.

how people can protect their families, get groceries and medicine, pay their bills, even find help for domestic abuse.no >> we arjust collecting data here. we're not just finding out how while we're doing that, we're doing more than that. we are becoming extensf our client or of our contact social support system, and we're connecting them with the >> nawaz: used around the globe in response to diseases like olera, h.i.v. and ebola,ac contt tracing has long been a critical public health tool to map and control outbreaks. >> this is how you s fp running awm the virus and start chasing it down. >> nawaz: now with thealenter for glevelopment, jeremy konyndyk helped manage the obama administration's eboponse in west africa, relying heavily on contact tracing. ramping up a national program here, he says, could not only helptop the spread, it could help avoid large-scale shutdowns. >> because of inadequate testing

and because we don't hone a nationalct tracing infrastructure in place in the united states, we in effect have to presumptively quarantine the whole population and slow the but with contact tracing at scale and sting at scale, then you have the ability to quarantine only those people who ve actually been exposed to the virus. >> nawaz: digital tools to track people's movements, he says, like those used in singapore, israel, south korea, and many other countries could also help. but tackling the scale of infection here in the u.s., on top of years oslashing state health budgets, means more federal leadership is needed. >> and so the estimates now from unhns hopkins are that we may need somewhere a100,000 contact tracers across the united states. and i think that that's the sort of order of magnitude and we need to behinking on here. that's a lot of people. but also, that's an achievable thing. >> nawaz: some estimate the u.s. will number of contact tracers, but so far states are largely rolling out their own,vi inal plans. north and south dakota are two of a handful of states which have not issued stay-at-home orders during covid-19. together they've so far seen

around 3500 confirmed cases, with fewer than 50 deaths. officials now hope a new location-based app can aid their atefforts to keep the viru bay. >> it turns out that most n'ople, including myself, remember on a good day where i was five days ago, let alone, if you're sic >> nawaz: tim brookins is an app developer in fargo, north dakota. in 2014, he develope"bison tracker"-- an app that let north dakota state football fans tck each other as they traveled together to away games. inpppril, he repurposed that into this one, the care 19 app, which tracks and compiles users' lotions, so if they do test poetive, they can easily sh that data with a contact tracer. brookins says it will protect users' identities while making the process more efficient and accurate.ck but hewledges these efforts require buy in. >> it's hard. people need to really take time digest, you know, what is the new normal after this. and, you know, come to terms with the idea of location

tracking and whether it's a good ot.ng or >> nawaz: google and apple recently announced they're working on conta tracing chnology too, to roll out in mid-may. but the rushed tech response has somerivacy experts worried. >> we're essentially building the airplane while it's flying.l >> nawaz: jon is a former security expert at apple, now liberties union.n civil they recently published a report outlining principles to protect privacy and civil rights in ntact tracing technologies.am g those principles: that the technology used should be voluntary; tracking information shouldored on a user's phone rather than a government or company server; the data should be routinely theared out; ane programs should end when the pandemic doth. callas saye are necessary steps not only to protect the public from incread surveillance, as seen in china, but for public health efforts to fight the pandemic tbe effective. >> we have to get the trust of the peopleho are who are using this. if people don't trust that this is a system that will benefit

them and their community, they won't use it. they'll balk. they they'll push back. i mean, we already see people in the united states who are pushing back on things. >> nawaz: ultimately, though, experts agree the digital tools shouldomplement human contact >> while the app may beem. efficient, it's not familiar, nor does it have a human voice on the other end of it saying, by t way, i know i'm telling you that you've been exposed, hing i want you to know is i'm here for you through this process. >> nawaz: a process to slow the spread, save lives, and maybe even prevent future waves of the virus. r the pbs newshour, i'm amnawa naz in washington. court argument unly otherreme it had held before. le so because of the issue that the justices grappled with

today, it was more because of the logistics of making today's argument happen, during pandemic. not only that, the public could hear it l, live. yamiche alcindor begins there. >> alcindor: today, the supreme court was in session, but you could hardly tell by the relative quiet outside the courthouse. instead, it was the voice of chief juste john roberts that kicked off today's oral arguments, over the phone. >> case number 19-46, patent and trademark office versus booking.com. ms. ross? >> mr. chief justice, and may it please the court. >> alcindor: it's a first for the supreme court. justices normally hear arguments in a case together, and in person. the socially distanced justices four oem in their 70s or 80s, took turns questioning attorneys over the phone. ede arguments they heard today had been reschedecause of the pandemic. and, there were the occasional glitches: for a few seconds, bad audio rendered justice stephen breyer hard to hear:

>> thank you, counsel. justice breyer? >> thank you. >> alcindor: but any issues were minor, in an argument that also included questions from justice clarence thomas.nk >> tou, counsel. justice thomas?ss >> yes, ms. couple of questions. >> alcindor: it was tist his third me posing questions at argume, over at least a decade. today's arguments were in a trademark case, involving the travel website "booking.com." also this month: cases about religious exemptions to the affordable ccoe act's birth rol coverage mandate, disputes over subpoenas fortr presidenp's financial records, and the issue of" faithless electors" in presidential elections. until now, for the publi following an argument live has meant having to get a seat inside the courtroom, where electronics are banned. for closely watcd cases, long lines for seats are the norm. but in another first, the broader public could listen to today's argumentlive.

marcia coyle of "the national law journal": >> the normal window into the operation of the court pecially during oral arguments is really through the reporters who cover the court, the stories they write. there are several courtroom artists who draw pictures of the action. the audio of the argument is posted on the court's website, but not until the friday of the week in which a particular case was argued. s alcindor: in the few ti the court has done same-day audio releases, they were for arguments in the most extraordary of cases. some lower federal courts allow news cameras in for some proceedings, or providviaudio or o livestreams themselves. but e supreme court's operations have a history of being slow to keep up with technology. for example, its opinions were printed usg hot-metal typesetting until the 1980s when it moved to eltronic printing.

and over the years, some justices have let it be known they have doubts about broadera mecess to arguments. almost a quarter-century ago, a house pal questioned now- antired justices anthony kennedy d david souter about letting news cameras in. >> i can tell you that the day you see a camera coming to our courtroom, it's going to roll over my dead body. >> alcindor: as recently as last year, justices samuel alito and elena kagan expressed their own concerns, also before a house panel. >> allowing the arguments to be televised would undermine their value to us as a step in decision-making process. irresistible to try to put in a little sound bite in the hope of being that evening on cnn or fox or msnbc or one of the broadcast networks. >> i think we would filter rselves in ways that would be unfortunate. in other words, the first timese yosomething on the evening

news, which taken out of context, suggest something that you never meant to suggest, suggests that you have an inion on some issue that you, if fact, don't have. th>> alcindor: but now tha court has adjusted to the times: in least for these first two weekay, will audio livestreaming stick around, even after the pandemic has passed?ho for the pbs ne, i'm yamiche alcindor. >> woodruff: you can follow the supreme court oral arguments on our website at pbs.orgewshour. >> woodruff: the war of words between beijing and washington gets more aggressive bthe day. now, the trump white house is boosting theory that says the coronavirus was accidentally released from a lab in wuhan, where the outbreak began. here's nick schifrin on the

tense international politics of the pandemic. >> schifrin: judy, that war of words accelerated yesterday with both the secretary of state and president trump laying blame for the pandemic on china, and on here's mr. trump at a fox news townhall last night suggesting it was accidentally released by the lab. ed in my opinion they made a mistake, they to cover it, they tried to put it out, it's like a fire. o it's realllike tryingt out a fire. they couldn't put out the fire. what the really treated the world badly on, they stopped people going into china, but ey didn't stop people going into the u.s.a. and all over the world. >> schifrin: so ishe trump administration right to point the finger at china for the coronavirus, and its spread around the world?fi or should ther be pointed equally at the white house? we get two views. antony blinken is a senior foreign policy advisor presidential candiate joe biden. he served in the obama

administration. anrebeccah heinrichs is a senior fellow at the hudson institute, a think tank in washington, d.c. she has worked as foreign policy advisor to republicans on capitol hill. thank you very much, welcome both back to the newshowrks tony blinken, let me start with you. so has president ump been correct in pointing out that vina, at least locally ered up the virus in the early days and that lead to the spread of covid-19? f the that's only hal story. clearly china, the government of china has to be held accaiountae for ing to provide information in a timely fashion, toiling to give access international inspectors to get to the bottom of what happened. but the other half of e story is this, unfortunately umpgically, the tr administration took down or undermined a lot of defenses, the revious administrationput in place, to be able to warn of a pandemic including a pandemic emerging from china and then when tndemic emerged in china, and the system was flashing red, the president did

virt allly nothing about it. and untunately mislead the american people for the better part of two months about the dangers heading our way. >> schifrin: rebeccah heinrichs you heard the blaming of china buvment has president trump failed in his response over the last few nths? >> throw, i think it is much too derly to give such a harsh gr to the trump administration when we are just adapting to the data that comes in. the critical piece of why thtr p administration is so right, to make sure tht they counterthe narrative that the chinese government may maybe made a mistake but isn't ultimately to blairnlings to counter that argument, you have to go out there and say what isr . the truth of the matter is it's not just that the chinese government covered up. they obfiscated, they lied, they didn't give the informati they eded. but they continue to this day to silence doctors, to censor academic research within china reted to the gins of the virus. the onus is on the chinesern gont because it originated

in their country, to show the world whe this thing comes from. provide all of the data that and even to this day, there's still imprisoning peoplpp diring people and sen suring them, which that is why there is a suspicion surrounding all this. if china wants to be a world player, they are going to have to a like a responsible actor and demonstrate that they can be trusted on something so serious as this. >> schifri tony blinken, in late decemberdohere werctors in wuhan trying to sound the alarm.e those people wgh lerchessed and it took china weeks at least publicly to admit that there was human to human transmission. is the trump administration right to point all those things out? >> you know, i agree with rebeccah that as a great nation, cha has great responsibilities. and in this case the spobilityds are even more acute because the virus originated in china. but we have great responsibilities too, and ourad nistration in particular does. so when we take down virtually personnel that werin place

by previous administrations to predict, prevent and mitigate a pandemic including one originating in china, thats a problem. anthen when the pandemic starts to emerge in china and you unore-- ignore r own intelligence community, not once, not twice but a dozen times.or remember b9/11 there was a famous item in the president's daily brief saying bin d determined to attack united states that is based on post reportin the equivalent of what president trump received not once, not twice but a dozen times in january and february. and not onldid he not insist that china live up to its responsibilities by giving access to sectors, by making sure informati was forth coming, instead at that very moment when china was not being forth dming, what did heo? he praised the government in beijing for being transparent. he praised it for is cooperation. and i might point out at that very moent, joe biden ws calling on the president not to take the government's word for it in china. to hold them to account, toin

st on information, to get our inspectors into labs in wuhan.eb >> schifrin:ccah heinrichs, the intelligence were trying to sound the alarm in janl. i talked to national securitywh official also were trying to sound the alarm within the they do fear that their responsibility wasn't quick enough what abou that, washe administration's response quick enough, should the president have been more critical much china in january than he really was? >> i think if you look at, there is a disconnect between the president's rhetoric through th early pa march and his policies that he implement including the travel restrictions from schiena into thi united states. ink part of that was because he was trying to calibrate a response, to instill trust in the market, not knowing exactly the effect this would have in e united states. i do think that s a mistake. that pales in comparin to i think a lot of the good the administration is doing with the information ey have. d again, it is not a sigh to

keep going back to china t is the central issue, when president trump sent out in mid administration is atelysght trying to get americans in countries to get ahold of the sequence. begere covid-19 in order to information. and so the president believes ping enoughr xi jin to smooth out that relationship to get americans from the concern. that was his primary question argue whether that was wise, question understand the motivation for him doing that. is he not confused about the nature of the ppe. tohis day there is a doctor in shanghai trying to sound at larm and give the genome sequence to other induals outside the country and that lab was promptly shut down. e wet market with san vertise. the animals were destroyed rather than having lab work from the animals when the who went in country. all of these thing lead american people to be suspicious about nty the chinese governisn't

being open and honest. >> schifrin: i want to turn to world leadership in the time have i left.to blinkeren, the world health organization repeated chinese claims which we now know to be incorrect, that the virus had no human to huan transmission through january and the trump h administrati been crit calf the who and has frozen o funlds becausome of those mistakes early on. do you believe that reason could help create th reforms of the who that many believe are necessary. >> as to the who, it clearly fell short of the marbuk. st ironic because the president says is the woo woo was who was not quick enough of pointing the finger of whawat s going on in china and the chinese government which areac sations much sh directedded at president trump nmself. going forward, eed to make sure that the who can actfe ively. my concern is this, as we pull out, who goes in? china. they will expandtheir infleuns in the who.

they will expand their influence on all the places we are retreating from as a con sints manner in this administration thation is not a way show showh american strend influence. st a way to help the government in beijing expand itown influence. >> first of all the united states, government money combined with nongovernment money has given more tha.n $65 billion to our allies and partners a pcoduct to fight navirus, that is 12 times the amount the chinese government has provided and the united states continues to be, i think at 40% to the world-- food organization, the wall streetto bankake sheurt secondary affectness the coronavirus is caution, the economic devastr ion to otvulnerable countries, so that there is still food. there the united states is still the world ader in generosity, ben ef lens and you can see it in the face of this global pandemic. the united states should do far more than the who ugeven thh the who is essentially acting outlet for the chinese

government. so it is not all about money. sometis money isn't the thing that will influence organizations like the who. so is ydon't understand people continue to say that we should be giving more money. and so i think that the strump adynistration is absolut right on to withhold funding until we see reforms from the who. >> schifrin: rebech heinrichs, tony blinken, thank you very much. >> thanks. >> thank. >> woodruff: in the absence of daily white house coronavirus briefings, psident trump took to fox news last night to tout his achievements and insist that the economy is on its way to a speedy recovery. here to analyze the politics of the his response, amy walter of the cook polital report and host of public radio's "politics with amy walter." and tamara keith of npr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast."

hello to both of you. and before i turn to you, i want to let you listen some of what president trump had to ty a this fox townhall last night. and also some of what joden tod to say today at a different townhall that hado with helping essential workers, particularly in the latino community. let's listen both of those and i will come back. >> you-- make more money, frankly, i think that will happen. i think we will have an incredible following year. we will gotrinto a sition in the third quarter and we're going to see things happen that look good, i really believe that. r this a good feel stumplet have i done it for a long time. >> i have put out a detailed should be doing right now to support our front line workers and address the disparities impacts all across the country. and i truly think that if we do this right, we have an incredible opportunity to not just dig out of this crisis but tou fndamentally transform the country. >> woodruff: so amy, i'm goitong

ome to you first. you have the president pivoting to talk about theconomy at a time when, frankly, the numbers, of cases andeaths on covid are not looking very good. the president knowledged that his heart last night. but he is talking about the economy, saying it will get. bett joe biden on the other hand saying about how we need to protect these front line worker what do yoke of these two approaches. here we are in may of this >> that's right. you can hear it with president trump last night in that townhall. he was so nostalgic for that time before cod when the economy was strong, his numbers on ndling the onomy, so strong. his focus was wing the election on the strength of a good economy. pandic that is not justth this devastating our health butas obviously deting the economy. and he wants to, and he said over and over again, ing america back, we need to get

america working. we need to get cothis enomy back. with joe biden, what i find really interesting judy, especially that clip that put in there was joe biden was attacked byany in the progressive community for not wanting to be prog-- for not being progressive enough. for being really status quo standing. and what he's doing is not jus talking about bringing the economy back but putting a focus onhe people who are looking to make more structure. what he is looking to do is make more structural change, focusing not just on th front lines, are talking about meat packing workers but who also are, were doing poorly in theeconomy before the covid-19 outbreak and continue to struggle even now. >>tnd as you listen to s and you look at what these two candidates are saying, what does

it tell you about where they see themselves in this contest. >> president trump wanted his campaign slogan.rt it has been f rolling out to be keep america great. and now it's more like make america great again, again. but you know, you have a situation where you have the president of the united ates with all the advantages of incumbency that a president of the united states haan. you have joe biden you know, sort of stuck in a sement doing these webcasts, trying his best to campaign. but it's very different. now obviously mt trump cagot to a rally. he is yearning to a day where he can get backout n anarena with 25,000 people. unclear when or if that will happen. but z, suddenly still has the ability to, you know, get on air force one like he's going to do tomorrow. and sort of flaunt the power of

the president. >> woodruff: that's right, amy, the president tomorrow is going to fly from washington to arizona to visit a company where they manufacture protective gear, masks, that people are wearing right now. how much of an advantage does the president have at a time like this? joe biden is at home? >> righta and you can if that audio, he wasn't-- he was sitting on some sort of porch or ssmght you something in the backgrounds or while the president gets to not sit at te lincoln memorial.ut the contrast couldn't stronger. at the same time even with those advantages, judy, the president is still looking at thel appro ratings that are in some cases 20 to 30 points lower than governors, in many of these teates. red st blue states, all these governors had used this opportunity in the spotlight under this crisis moment to mee.

that mom this president has med it in the same way he meets every moment which is i very polarizing, sort of predictable way. and so what should be a big advantage of a bully pulpit has not worked ou that way. >> woodruff: and tam, go ahead. >> to trip to arizona is an official event t is not a campaign event but it is not a coincidence that the president is going to zona, a state he won in 2016. but the reality is it plays in 2020, i talked to someone from his campaign today. they have had people on the ground there since 2015. but there a real sense that this is a state that they're going to have to fight for. arizona used fob red arizona, isn't guaranteed and certainly under the current circumstances is n guarantee. >> so amy, you brought up the governors. we are seeing right now a numbee of s i guess what is it,

they're saying 20, 30 states go ahead and planning to ep up again teen with the forecast of rising cases and deaths. around the statesthat seem to be moving ahead, more of them have republican governors. the states that are saying no, let's wait. more of them have democratic governors. how part -- partisan is it right now? >> it's really interesting, judy the kaiser foundation has an interesting pullout this morning that looked at, or some datout this morning that looked at the rate of growth, especially over the last two weeks, in states that had democratic govnors and states that had republican governors. while it is true that states that have democratic governors overall have more deaths even per capita than those who have red governors. when you look overlast two weeks at the rate of growth in both cases and deaths, it is red states that are seeing an incredle yup tick. so the question and you are

right to ask this, judy, what is s true that we will not only see more cases or more deaths in ed states. will that change the per septionz by people who live ina those tes and governors on this issue. what i found interesting was i was digging through some polls taken in michin and florid two battleground states. one mass a democratic governor, one has a republican governor. when you ask voters in those states how worried are you out actually contracting coronavirus, and then ask specifically very worried or some what worried. the people who said they were very worried also happened to line up pretty closely with whether you were a clinton voter or not. so in michigan s in something like 52 percent of clinton voters said they were very worried about that, of getting conavirus. 57% in florida. but among voters who voted for trump in2016, a quarter or a third said they were very worried about this issue. y can see at that moment, or whether they scrai red stat or ablue state, governor is

democrat, governor who is republican, the voter themselves, the ideological lens through which they are looking also is impacting how serious ofey believe the threat covird infection is. >> woodruff: pam, you have 30 seconds. >> yes, i was talking to a researcher about this and he was pointing out that up until this point there has been sort of a disproportionate weight of the coronavirus being borne by counties that were clinton counties. and there are also a lot of racial disparities that are underlying that. and it might explain why the politics are the way they are. but you know, that completany could if the virus change its way it affects the country is.>> woodruff: so interesting. these numbers. state by state. we're seeing things we didn't see just a month or so ago. eamara keith, amy walter, w thank you both.

>> you're welcome. >> woouff: for weeks, otographer john moore has been bringing his camera to the front lines the pandemic to document the new realities of life in america. he's tagged along with emergency medical workers and gone inside intensive care uni. here's a look at what he's seen so far, it's part ofur ongoing arts and culture series, canvas. >> getty images sent me first to seattle.ly it was earch. the disease had already spread to a nursing home and in kirkland, washington, which is just outsi of seattle. and so i was photographing the empty city of seattle.d at was happening outside of nursing homes. and then i flew back once the crisis really began to be

obvious here on the east coast of the u.s. and my flight back from seattle to new york city was virtually empty. and so i photographed really the emptiness which would become our society in gener and public aces. i've photographed testing sites. i photraphed many things thatof show the effechis epidemic wheher it is wrong island, southern, southwestern connecticut. everyone is affected in some way or another. i photographed testing siteds, photographed schools that are empty, i i photographed schools that are. em i photographed many things tt show the effect of this epidemic al for immigrant families, because i think the immigrant community, especially the undocumented community, is really highly affected. they don't have many of them don't have healtinsurance and very few of them have any protections when they're unemployed.

like. on the other hand it is so important for me to protect the people i'm photographing. frirntion i will give an example, there was one case where ems workers iyonkers workers in yonkers went to a house and had to intubate a man who was barely breathing when they arrived. and that situation was just incredible to see. you hear about intubatut you almost never see it. in a way that gave respect toit the gentleman that they were trying to save and they did and still show the drama of theme . and when you talk to first responders, to paramedics, it's interesting. you know, yes, peoplare seeing them as heroes.ey e doing heroic work. and it's amazing.

but at the same time, they're doing their normal jobs. went to me it is porntd that this story is told not only in terms ofistics, we hear about in people infected, thousands of people died. but it is about human b d i want to show what that looks like.eo whate can see what is happening to other human ingses that show the heroi, of the ems workers, doing it's important work. and the hospital worrs who are taking care of peoplen the other sievmentd and if i can show that, and bring it to a human level, then i have done my >> woodruff: they truly are >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now, libraries across the country have closeds their doring the pandemic, but it doesn't mean their work as summer reading season approaches, librarians share

their book recommendations for kids of all ages. find that list on our web site, pbs.org/newshour. before we go, "may the fourth" has become an unofficial holiday for "star wars" fans. so we leave you tonight with anr excerp composer and conductor john williams and then philharmonic, playing "the imperial march," as we all look forward to the day when we go to concerts and movies again. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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