more than 40 million americans are out of work. il wehear from a former presidential candidate. the pandemic has hit the navajo nation hard. we will connect with a doctor about the bay area team working to save lives in arizona. ace in northern california. in- as of this week the united states has had 100,00related deaths. that is the population of boulder colorado or closer to home, burglary, california. the disease is roaming the golden state with infections

topping the same number 10 thousand in california. even as the state's caseload increases the governor is easy restrictions on some businesses. retailers can reopen for in person shopping under guidelines and and or approv for thhealth departmet. with millions out of work and many businesses shuttered california faces a daunti road to economic recovery. joining me now by m ype is stier a billionaire investor and a presidential candidate. as a former presidential candidate, what is it like for you to be witnessing the nation office unrest ib >> i feel te sad watching what is happening in minnesota, the murder of a black man in

police custody. i feel immense shared grief with the people particularly afthe can-american people for whom this is the last incident and over centuries of discrimination, injustice and murder. this kind of incident, this open wound in the american psyche calls out calls out for a president healing the wound talking to the family addressing the need reform nj racialtice along with economic and environmenl injustice. >> talk us through the act what equity lands and the specific actions you are recommending to the governor to kesure that california tomorrow is a better place. >> it is in the mission statement of our task force that we are going to work for a more equitable and just california. it specifically says that on the front lines will be the

underserved communities, the black and brown communitie who are paying a disproportiona cost in terms of health and disproportionate cost in terms sufferg from the rest of society that we will keep those in the front-line. where testing sites are, we must have testing sites in the s plhere people are most likely to catch the our. those tend to be where there are social workers, black and brown people. >> let's talk about the possibility of jo in construction or infrastructure. is that something that california can look at doing now >> the governor said in his revised budget that he was studying how to do an infrastructure program in california. that is absolutely in the front of his mind and in doing so we would create hundreds of thousands of jobs around

california and incumbent on the administration and i know the governor takes this seriously to make sure that the people in ieack and brown communare overrepresented as we try to reveal jobs, rebuild the labor force. that is something where it will be incumbent on us to take a di race and economicdvantage into account as we create jobs and as we do retraining and upscaling. that is something we have to focus on and the governor is focused on. >> what is the biggest obstacle that california faces in his recovery? >> i think the issue is going to be--weather as we reopen there enough demand to buy the services that california can produce and that is why i po think it will be ant for government to take this opportunity to rebuild a better

california, to understand that we are not trying to get back to january 2020, in fact, we can and up with a anmore just equitable california. a more resili t california, more productive, we will win with the most d and productive workforce in the world and use the kind of information technology that we lead the world and to make our people better paid and compete with anybody. >> you have said that we mistakes that we made following the great recession in which a lot of the relief money went to big business. what equity actions has your task force presented to thgo rnor so far works >> i break this downand short- term we need to make sure we are meeting the needs of the families of california who are includes taking care of the their healthcare. we have millio of hungry people. it is critical and tothe

governor is on this very intensively to make sure that nger-term we need programs aout creating jobs and getting back towork and making sure the education system reaches them and enables them to reach their potential. we have a short-term specific need to meet needs today and the longer-term goal of addresses racial economic and environmental inequality across our state. essence. s obviously of the have yesented the governor with any specific action items? >> absolutely. we advise him on all of the business decisions he is making. the r otocols opening up a retail store, he has getting information from some of the 15 labor leaders who are on the task force and making sure those protocols protect the

health and safety of works. he is getting advice from people who run thousands of retail stores about what is practical todo and about what can effectively be done so that it will work for the working people and for the customer. we are doing that right now as kihe considers what of infrastructure program to propwe are giving him input on erent things that buossisse. can see will in fact produce jobs, produce productivity, make us morekecompetitive, us more equitable and sustainable. that is going on on a daily basis. we are not trying to produce a big thick book to m give to in six months. we are trying to advise him on of research on a daily basis toa come so he has the best informed decision and long-term for a plan to structe a better california for the

future. i need to ask you a question that is going to seem indelicate. you are a wealthy, white man, what makes you care so much about equity in the state and the nation? >> well, i think, i am stl a human being and my heart goes out to other human ings because i can see myself and my family and one of the most moving experiences i have had is my partner and i have been associated with california food for califoia kids and is seeing kids that need free and reduced lunch eat a healthy lunch on a sunny day outdoors in california is one of the most movg and meaningful experiences of my life. that is . what drives

i can see in an eight-year-old i can see him right now with big ears sticking out with a huge smile on his face eating a fish taco. that is meaningful. >> thank you so much. straddling arizona, new mexico, and utah. navajo nation has the highest rate of infection per capita in the united states. the nation hlich is rothe size west virginia lacks comprehensive healthcare and only 60% of residents have running water. they have been wearing masks for 6 weeks and dividing 57 week lockdown. nurses and doctors have been traveling there to help this community. joininanme now is associate professor of medicine who has treated hundreds of covid-19

patients nain dotion. doctor, thank you for being with us. >> thank you for having me. >> you have been going out since 2015. this was a ecial trip to assist with the pandemic response. why is there such a high rate of infection they asked >> there are several reasons, is a history of neglect. native americans in the united states so broken treaties and you have a health system that is underfunded. a third of the rate per capita of tindian health service which take care of the population is under the one third of what the va is funded and medicare d you have a lack of electricitor running water or a third of the u

population so when talk about shelter-in-place which might be an inconvenience for me and you know it is an impossibility for ma the navajo going into this beautiful definition of family that a lot of them have that several generations living in e clarters, it is hard if one person is positive and u seen these say that there is hi rates of diabetes and when you talk about 27,000 square miles across the nation the size of west virginia, there are only 13 grocery stores and west virginia has 162 in comparison. you are talkg about diabetes or obesity being in a desert and having access to processed foods is one of those major risk factors that we see. >> as a doctor, what have you

learned about covid-19 from treating hundreds of patients? >> in navajo nation is very humbling and as a doctor i have seen so s ny different tyof pneumoni generally you start to get good and this patient coming in i see them and i can predict their course and in covid-19 19 people i dothought would exceptionally well started to go off on their oxygen and we ended up ingrating them and some people actually peek at that auction level you are thinking you are ing to have to integrate them and they turn aroundcond turn a er. it is one of these very humbling diseases from our standpoint we don't have a lot

of therapies so it is really supportive with oxygen and i felt like a doctor, we certainl see across the nation that covid-19 has laid bare many of the inequities across our country and this really notice in navajo nation whic is a prime example of how poor people are sufferinmuch worse than people in wealthier areas. and what you think can be done to change that. >> that is true. i have worked navajo nation since 2015 and a lot of the conversations we have nowabou being understaffed to take care of patients. all of that existed long be wre peope paying attention

to, donation and i think across the united states if you are paying attention whether it is the black population in new orleans or chicago or native americans. they only make up 11% ofthe new mexico population at our co third of the navirus cases and in chicago 30% of black people live in chicago anmake a 50% of the debts. these inequities e so anclear those of us that are working in the health system it is very apparent. we have to do as americans is pay attention to our history and i ththink in united states whether you are talking about floyd and some of the protests or yoare talking about the genocide the history of broken treaties in navajo nation, this has relevance to this moment. if covid-19 will be toa portal a more just america we have to

look in e mirror and how do we make first citizens first in this mome t. when there vaccinations and access to drug had we placed the vulnerable communitfis as tht ones that have access >> is there a story you can share that illustrates the navajo community their resilience or the challenges they face? bucket last week i was iniz a. right in the heart of the navajo nation and i was takinga care of woman who was probably close to 60 and she was very sick. she was on high flow oxygen and she ats tellg me for 2 weeks before she came into the hospital she was short of breath and was having fevers and chills and she stayed in her pickup truck.

she lay down a blanket and stayed there with fevers and chills in order to not expose her 85-year-old parents and in kinship and family commitment is beautiful and it is a cornerstone who they are as a people and i saw this woman who is very liret and highly beautiful person and had just suffered for 2 weeks before she came in in order to protect her elders and that is what we see over and over again that elders crare so ibly important to the community and i hear over and ovain that e desp this there is a saying of we will walk in beauty once again and that is what we hear from a lot of our patientstheven ugh their struggle and

their pain. one of my colleagues was taking care for the next weekend said u wian unsolicited comment that came from her was that the doctor had madee me belithat i will get through this and now she is sharing a room with another patient and said i doing the same for my next for in the hospital and she was down to two liters getting close to discharge and she is out one that could've very fl easitoly teanother part of the state instead she tued the corner and she is going to be going home soon. >> it must be great to see the work you are doing having such an effect. thank you for your time and your help erout working from home has become the new normal for ny.

some tech companies are allowing their employees to work from home indefinitely and as the ability to work away from the office becomebumore many will have different choices about where to live. c wiies continue to thrive or will they empty out driven by fears of another outbreak? gment in which we will look g at the systemic problems and the opportunities for change we focus on the future of cities. molly turner is a lecturer at the school of buness at uc berkeley and cohost of the podcast. thank you for joining us. let's start with a case study. let's look at facebook. they have said that in the nextl decadeof their workforce could be working motely. how much will that impa two cities which have relied on ancillary spending. d their

>> i think there is a diffence between an employer giving them thportunity to work remotely and employees wanting to do that every day of tha week. i thinlot of the surveys that have come out show employees want flexibility, butd thsn't mean they want to work remotely forever. they still value face-to-face and there are a lot of jobs that cannot be done remotely and we have seen the impact on those jobs through the shwhter- in-place. e some small percentage may choose to work remotely d leave the bay area, i don't think it will have a dramatic affect on these economy. >> what about the need for people to feel safe and cities? do they want to be living mustard together an congregating when it seems like disease can be spread more easily when you work those together wh other people? cities have to ecmake a spific appeal to say we are safe. >> there are plenty of big cities across the world that

have managed to contain this. livi in a bicity does not have to ou this dangand cities have persisted through pandemics for centuries. living in cities has had a high cost, noise, contagion, coestion, but people continue to choose to live in cities not just because that is where jobs are, b because that where immunity, diversity ulcer and living in cities is better for we choose to liintensity with each other, use resources efficiently and preserve agricultural and open land. the pandemic is also giving us an opportunity to look at our social system. what are the most innovative ideas and it comes to managing there is an interesting silverlining. we have seen amazing regional collaboration in the counties.

something that urban planners have been wanting for years the only collaborate regionally like thaon a transportation system to increase public transit around the entire region. house is another thing we need more collaboration on. it is been interesting see cities that resisthomeless encampments really invest in that rit now. it has been interesting to see cities that have really been afraid to takespace away om cars and allocate that to bicycles and restaurants do that so weekly. oakland is dedicatinga huge number of streets and creating this massive trend across united stes cities. there are some inspiring big decisions that city leaders can be making right now. >> is there an equity lens we can be looking at best through

at thishrough? >> it is some percentage of workers choose to leave the bay area, choose to wo remotely or may have lost their jobs and choose to leave, that may actually be pretty good for uk cities because superstar cities like san francisco have a disproportionate share of text tech and knowledge workers and if those roare distributed more cities that could help second and third tier cities acrothe country and that could leave room for more people who want to and need to live the bay area. >> what institutional changes need tbe puto the works right now of potential opportunity in order for there to be a better city tomorrow? >> we need be able to make some really big decisions that we have been dragging our feet on. we already know what we need to do to make theabamore

affordable, easier to get that is not e.rocket scie we have dragged our feet making the big decisions. that is investing housing en develo or portable housing development across e entire region and investing in a regional transportation networgs these are all ththat we have ta this opportunity to implement them. >> what are the odds thatthese changes will take place collects >> i am hopeful because i already see the city leaders across the biregion these decisions. look at how quickly the city was able to open. a huge network of streets. we can mo quickly anmake decisions if we want to. i would say 100% likelihood that we as a region can make these decisions. >> where did you see the

obstacles? >> we are politically divided just as we are in e nation and we need to find opportuny of shared values and focus on outcomes and i see that happening as we make these tough decisions. i know it can be done we haveto put the politics aside and figure out how we can achieve the shared goals. >> are there cities that you see that we could emulate to like congestion or housing shortages >> some northern european cities have been really inspiring when it comes to some of the transportaticisions we have been making. lithuania was one of the first cities to open up streets for restaurants and other smnel bues to be able to continue business outside where it is safer right now and that is something seyou united states cities adopt.

a lot of denmark and sweden and norway have really great active transportation where they prioritize and invest for bicycles and watching what wa en. we see them lead the way again right now. there are plenty of cities thatl have great ex for us to follow. >> let's talk about ere the rubber hits the road. we are in a massive deficit in this state. 54 billion and the federal picture is not looking great. what real likelihood is there es of funding projects and these ideas? >> e can prioritize projects that are not as inexpensive. bicyclastructure is a affordable transportation

investment. i think in california in the bay area we need to rethink our ghx structure. now with property taxes taxing income which is really difficult during an economic downturn like this. prop 13 reform will be on the ballot this november and as a state we have an opportunity rethink how we want to tax commercial real estate and that could be a huge boon particularly for scho budgets right now. there will be an interesting debate about whether that is ine onable solution. >> thank you so much. you can find mo of ou coverage at kqed.org. you can reach me through my social media channer thank you tching and stay safe.

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