captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good ening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, a reckoning on race-- the u.s. grapples with what to do with confederate monuments, as the calls for overdue justice grow louder. then, new voices-- members of s neration z discuss coming of age in tumultuoutimes of protests and a pandemic. >> we are the generatit says no more. and i think that we will be the generation that really revolutionizes this world and transforms the world for thebe er. >> woodruff: plus it's friday. mark shields and david brooks consider whether a political shift is underway over race and the rolef police, along with the latest moves in the race for president.th al and more on tonight's

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>> and with the ongoing support of tse institutions: and friends of the newshour. >> this program way made possiblee corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the drici to reform po in america is gaining more momentum. new york state moved today to ban choke-holds and to release police disciplinary records. governor andrew cuomo gned the changes into law in albany. he also said he will tie state funding to local action. >> we're not going to fund police agencies in this state that do not look at what has been happening, come to terms

with it and reform themselves. we're not going to as a state government subsidizing impror police tactics. we're not doing it. >> woodruff: meanwhile, ylouisville, kentucky's c council enacted "breonna's law" banning no-knock warrants. it is named for breonna taylor, who was killed by police inside me. and, president trump said hevo would ending police use of choke-holds, except in limited circumstance he also demanded again that the city of seattle end the occupation of its capitol hill neighborhood, by protesters.he inresidential campaign, mr. trump defended his plans for a campaign rally on june 1ahh in tulsa, oa. the day is kwn as "juneteenth" and commemorates the end of slavery.ul and, was the site of a white-on-black massacre in 1921. but in a fox news interview, the president dismissed the criticism.

>> you c really think about that very positively as a celebration, cause a rally to me is a celebration. it's going to be really a celebration and itan interesting date, it wasn't done for that reason but it's an interesting date, but it's a celebration. >> woodruff: mr. trump also plans to accept the republican re-nomination for president in jacksonville, florida, on august 27th. on that date in 1960, a white mob attacked black protesters in jacksonville, an incident now known as "ax handle saturday."pe a federal s court in washington heard arguments today over ending the prosecution of the justice department wants to drop charges against president trump's former national securitd ser. he pled guilty to lying to the i f.b.the russia probe, thenhd tried to ww the plea. more u.s. businesses got the aneen light to reopen today, from bars in iowwineries

in northern california to the san diego zoo. but utah and oregon delayed further action, as covid-19 infecteep growing. still, the centers for disease control and prevention said it's not yet clear what's causing the resurgence. officials cited several possible factors, during a teleconference. >> sometimes an incrs driven by increased availability of testing, sometimes it's driven by outbreaks and we've seenutbreaks in certain recreational settings, long-term care facilities. early on we saw clusters in shelters for people experiencing homelessne. >> woodruff: the c.d.c. also posted guidelines that had been expected for weeks. they range from avoiding elevators to safely attending concerts. they do not address such issues as going to church or dating. new protests erupted in hong

kong today, marking one yeart since a violash with police. thousand at busy shopping malls. they carried banners and chantel ogans calling for hong kong's independence.oo riot police by, and there was no word of violence. the prime minister of lebanon held emergency cabinet talksen today, and theal bank agreed to try to shore up the econy, amid nationwide protests. sirut woke this morning to streets covered ttered glass and broken store fronts after ashes between demonstrators and security forces. back in this countrytrump administration formally ended protections for transgender people against discrimn in health care. the final rule defines gender as a person's biological sex. an obama-era rule defined it as an internal sense of being male, female or someombination.

and, wall street managed a partial comeback from thursday's rout.th dow jones industrial average gained 477 points to close at 25,605. the nasdaq rose 96 points, and, the s&p 500 added 39. still to come on the newshour: an interview with e only black professional nascar driver as the u.s. grapples with its racial history. members of generation z discuss coming of age in tumultuouss times of proted a pandemic. mark shields and david brooks break down a critical moment in america. plus much more.

ea woodruff: more than 150 after the civil war, monuments, schools and roads acrossl he country stnor confederate generals a leaders. but in the midst of the recent protests demanding racialeq lity, there is a renewed push to take down the monuments. in a moment, amna nawaz will talk to the man who lead the drive to have nascar ban confederate flags. but first, lisa desjardins looks at how the death of george floyd has prompted louder calls to remove public symbols of the confederacy. >> desjardins: it is perhaps the greatest dismantling of the confederacy since the civil war. in richmond, virginia... >> hands up! don't shoot! >> desjardins: in birmingham, alabama, confedera statues removed, or protests demanding their removal. new orleans... jacksonville, florida...

across the country, it is a direct extension of the protests against racism after george floyd's death. >> i think what's happening right now inhe present moment is that people are really beginning to understand what we mean by thstructures of white supremacy. desjardins: while some argue the monuments honor southern ancestors, lecia brooks of the southern poverty law center says tst went up either early twentieth century or during the groups like the ku klux klan flexed theiruscle. some have come down before. like the confederatelag off south carolina state house grounds following the murder of nine african-americans in a charleston church in 2015. and statues removed after a white nationalist rally in charlotteslle in 2017. but brooks senses something different now. >> i think we're in the midst of a real inflection point. i have never seen so, such a multi breath, racial, multi-

ethnic coalition of protesters demanding an end to anti-black racism. >> desjardins: for some the monuments are an important start. >> you were traitors. you attempted to secede from the union that had the audacity to lose and then put up monuments of your loss?! that feels like a great lie. and racism is what hased it to be a lie. for me, a lot of these monuments represent times members of my faurly and my cuand my race have suffered. >> by removing these statues, it's going to give people an opportunity to really stexamine the y of the civil war and reconstruction and jim crow and at went with it. >> desjardins: according the southern poverty law center, at least 1800 sites across the country commemorate the nanfederacy, either with a monument or plac. among them: ten military bases

named for confederate officers, including fort bragg in north carolina and fort hood in texas. defense secretary esper has signalled he's open to changing those names. retired army colonel mike jason wrote an op-ed to pentagon leaders this week. >> i've seen t emails and paperwork, i've spoke to commanders and peers and colleagues, and they're ady to make this happen. they're talking to soldiers; they're generating options and alternatives. great men and women have served this country and they're excited to do this. >> desjardins: but president trump himself has vehemently pushed back, tweeting these bases are part of great american heritage and his administration would not even consider renaming them. but this week the senate armed services committee, led by doors to require renaming thosed bases within three years. mike rous, republican of south dakota. >> we don't want to forget what's happened in the past. but at the same time, that doesn't mean that we should continue with those bases, with the names of individuals who

fought against our country. faces an issue under its own roof-- about the statues in the u.s. capitol itself. 11 statues memoriaze confederate leaders, ing confederate president jefferson davis. anconfederate general jose wheeler standing just a few feet away from a plaque marking the in congress.ham lincoln's desk house speaker pelosi this week ked for congress to now take all the confederate statues off display. >> can you imagine jefferson davis? alexanr stephens? treason, they committed treason against the ited states of america. and their statues are still here because their states put them here.>> esjardins: republican senator roy blunt, who oversees the committee responsible for the statues, says moving them ie possbut only the states can take them out of the capitol. and me states are. like arkansas, about to replace its controversial statues with musician johnny cash and civil rights activist and journalist

daisy bates. it is a cultural turn. nascar this week banned the confederate flag from its events. the navy and marine corps have also just banned the flag. but some worry this is a slippery slope toward the removal of monuments to founding fathers, many of whom were slave owners. say the country needs t be more educated about its racist past. >> i don't agree with the wholesale removal of everything that perins to the confederacy because we need to understandat ur history is, it's that we don't need things that glorify that history. >> they need to be put in a historical context that they're not being put into. and the's so much work and healing to be done in this country. it's just it's really not possible wheyou have people worshiping these symbols of oppreson. >> desjardins: the confederacy survived for only four years, but it has shaped discrimination and divide for generations since

now, again, a test of how long its symbols willtand. for the pbs newshour, i'm lisa desjardins. >> nawaz: now for nascar, the decision tban the confederate flag represents a major shift: the flag has long been a hard- to-miss presence at races. this photo shows some flying at the homestead miami speedway, just in 2018. the driving force this week pushing for the ban has been bubba wallace, a driver in nascar's top series, who's been elevating the issue of racial equality in that community. at recent races, he's worn shirts with the message "i can't breathe." and wednesday evening, he raced 500 laps in a car sporting a special "black lives matter" paint scheme scar driver bubba wallace joins usow. thanks for making the time and welcome to the "newshour". i want to ask you aboon this deciecause it happened pretty quickly. seems like, within days of you making that request, nascar said all-out ban on the flag, but they've wrestled wit before.

i remember back in 2015, they encouraged fans to stop bringing the flag, and the fanignored them. so why do you think they did this ban, an all-out ban now? >> well, good to be talking to you, first of all. really, 's something that needed to be done. since en, obviously way fore then, we have been trying to get this change going, andike you said, way back then, the flag belongs in history books and museum no, and i'm proud of nascar for stepping up and taking that action to get rid of the flag. >> reporter: do you thinke' thsomething about this time that we find ourselves in now that it's not enough to encourage fans to not bring it, we have to ban it. >> yes. i had conversations with that leadership, specifically steve phelps, the president, and talking of how we needed to tak

affirmative action to get rid of the flag immediately and do awi culture shif the sport. the sport has such bag stigma about us, and i want to show that we can provide so much more than the history's past and make this abo utclusion, diversity, unity, and comg together as one. >> reporter: bubba, let me ask you about the future of the sport, because iot's worthg viewership has beeing down. do you think that their concerns about turning away or alienating potential new fans were part of their decision right now? been getting, the viewership's been going up, so -- obviously, all sports have go down from across all boards, but our sports teams kind o lead in the forefront, and our sport being the firsback after this covid 19 pandemic really shows the leadership that we have and how we can take on what's w

for us and create the new normal for righsonow. ans are going to start coming back soon, and i'm excited for en it's back to the old ways of fans being able to come up, purchase the ticket and enjoy the race, because that graphic is going to be a lot different than what we've seen in the past, that's my hope, and i truly believe in that. the change has started and is coming and still f inull form. >> reporter: what do you man by that when you say the futurei demographic is to be different than you've seen in the past? >> it's just going to be a i different faceel like. we've always talked about having a more diverse bakground, a diverse fan base in the stands, people of all races and colors going to be there to support their favorite driver. doesn't even have to be me, but just being there and enj their time, cheering own their favorite drivers, eating, having a good time with the families. it's a family sport. we encourage the families to come out and have stun. >> reporter: bubba, worth pointing out you are the first

full-te black driver since 1971 in nascar, and yont ned before that you heard from first-timeat race-goers they came to the races, saw the flag and made thefeel uncomfortable and you didn't want them uncomfortable. but what about you, a the years in participating in what is an overwhelmingly white sport, did the flag make you feel uncomfortable? >> it didn't. i always had the mindset, and maybe i was blind to it, of just going out there and chasing checkered flaangsnow being more open and more of a leader on the matter, it's not about me. it's about the people i'm representing, my fan bae. i encourage my fans to come out to races, and if fans have a problem with something, then i feel like it's u to me totand up for what's right and to createquality and make everybody feel comfortable going wherever they are.wr that's what'ng, we're so afraid of stepping outside of our box enjoy, you kno the

unknowns and, you know, i'm a person that lives life on the edge and has no holdbacks an i encourage people to do that as well. when there are certaings that we can control as people pulling a different demographic back, let's just come togeth and meet in the middle and get rid of it. >> reporter: bubba, ohave to ask because we're having this conversation after millions of people watched the video of f georyd dying, and you shared recently that you have seen it, that your mom saw it, and that she sent you a message after that. what was that message? >> yeah, she just said, you know, epes -- she prays she'll never have to see me lying on the ground saying i matters to herand that my life s that's a pretty impactful message and that just pushed me to keep ing the things i'm doing off the track to change the world. >> reporter: can i ask you what you first thought when you

saw the video? it was disgustinto see, and i was hurt. i was hurt for two or three weeks prior to tha amaud arbery video, being hunted down and killed in broad daylight. so i have been feeling at lot of hurt and pain an anger just like the african-american community has. so this was the tip of the iceberg where we're simply tirey ofg to peacefully protest and say something and nothing happen. so you see all this chaos an whatnot going on, we're tired, we're hurting, we're in pain. the african-american people are trying to speak out and say they want change, and change is coming. >> but very briefly, in a few h seconds e left there, people who are going to look at the ban and y,kay, this flag is important to me, part of the heritage, if nascar i done with the flag, i'm done with nascar. what would you say to them?

>> it's ugh to change the simple-minded people who are want to adapt to change, that's tough. a good friend of mie, marty smith, espn, says nascar is noto closing thor on you, they're opening the door to many others. so that stuck out to that's pretty powerful there. >> reporter: bubba wallace, driver for nascar joining us from north carolina. bubba, thank you so much for making the time. >> yep, thanks. labeled generation, known asest "gen-z," those born in the late 1990's and early 2000's, enters adulthood as the nation grapples with systemic inequities in our institutions, from policing to health care. the newshour's student reporting labs, our journalism program for

high school students, spoke to teens across the country about how they see this moment >> a lot of times you hear people say, oh, all lives matter en they try to counter t black lives matterquovement. so mtion for the people who say this: when will there be equal opportity in america for all races? >> how are we as aountry going to eradicate this issue of racism when it happens to deeply rooted in our government or society and the history of america? what is our next step? >> when are we going to see and disparities in education?s and we can't live in a country that is embedded in institutionalized racism for over 400 years. the time is now to create change. >> i just wonder, why aren't why aren't people more?te? you know, we're all americans.

we're all people. so why should i have to be treated less then? >> my goalith all of this is make this country is safer for my kids to live here. >> it feels like there's so many people right nowreho just don't ly bother trying or who don't understand at all.sl and obvia white person never truly understand that. but how do you get them to justf recognize thatis different for black people than white people in this country? because it seems like something denial of.ny people e in >> i've donated, i sign petitions. media.een posting on my social but i'm wondering what else there is that i can do to support the social justice movement? because i feel like i need to do more. and i have a responsibility to take more action, bun't know how to do that.al >> witthe people who are screaming out for change, will there be a change? i hope to god there is a change. >> to build safer and stronger communities, it's going to take

everyone. to combat racism in america. you have to have conversations with your friends, your family, your colleagues. and it's going to be hard. but the conversations are definitely worth it. >> woodruff: as you just heard,n america's ers are asking tough questions. they're also offering policy solutions. nie sy spoke to two younger black lives marganizers about why they are protesting and their vision for change. >> reporter: in the wake of arthe latest killings of ud black men by police, a new crop of young leaders is emeing. they're part of generation z, and with their bold calls for dismantling traditional policing and other systems, some say they hold the keys to lasting change. i'm joined now by two young organizationers, 16-year-old thandiwe abdullah, co-found of black lives matter l.youth jalen thompson of o'fallon,ld

missouri, he was one of the lead protesters of his protest. thank you so much fog with us. jalen, not only did you help tor nize the protest in o'fallon, missouri, population 88,000, but i understand thisr was your fst protest. can you describe what that day >> for me, it wa very, very surreal, i guess is the best way to say thath has been kind of a breaking point seeing we're just nowgr uating and leaving into the world, so it's scary to think this could be us some day, and that's why we were so happy to see so many people coming o together to ki start having this conversation even in place where is it's not often talked about. >> reporter: jalen, cthere's a e of youta protest holding a sign that simply says "i a human, too," which is a powerful statement, but another powerful statement is that you were arm in arm with o'fallon's police

chief. can you describe what that felt like, especially when so many t consid police to be the problem? >> well, hee in o'fallon, we definitely have a much better officers than a f otherolice places, and i think that's why we're working with them to kind of keep the protests safe. it's not all of theficers that are the probm, but it's the system that they operate under. ey are able to do these things that they do that are someset inhuman, basically, and they're able to get away with a lot of it because of the way that our system works, and that's why wee need to cht. >> reporter: thandiwedu abah, you have been organizing a protest in places where police aree of the criticized for the wayy the handled videos. we've seen police be violent thwarts even peaceful protesters and bystandero so i wnder how you read when a

police officer is part of a march or takes a knee? >> i view this as a systemic i don't believe in the good cop narrative. i believe there are good people who decide to become co, but in choosing to do that, i feel you are choosing to join an oppressive system. >> reporter: we've heard two phrases, defund police and abolish police, become popular in recent weeks. i wonder what you think of the effectiveness of that language. >> what i think a lot of people men when they say defund or abolish police, we need to reimagine what safety looks likeo it's not wen want law enforcement or security for our communities, but we need to reimagine what that looks like. someone imagined this world that we live in today, and, so, i think we need to thin about, you know, really taking the time to think of something different, right. we have imaginations, let's use does safety look like community-based security? does safety look like mental health, do it look like

affordable housing? guard that works at your school? we really need to just take that time to dream of som better. >> it's going to be hard, and just like with all the defunding the police and kind of reimagining, as she said, with the police that we need to do, 's going to take a while, and that's why we need to be involv in the fight aswe can be starting now so that, down the road, in a few years from now, we're still going to be there. thandiwe, i want to play a short clip of you at one of the protests. take a listen. >> i'm graduating this year. (cheering) and the world that i am about to head up into does not want me! >> reporter: absolutely heartbreakg to hear the sentiment that you feel in that video, thandiwe. i wonder if you can talk about how the trauma of tinually

seeing unarmed black people shot and killed by police has affected you. >> we do have to start considering the mental health and emotional toll that it takes on black people to see these videos constantly on social media and even the news now. they don't sensor -- i remember when i saw amaud arbery on the news, nothing was sen soared, it was thmplete video of the murder, and it does something to, i think, not oy me bt to a lot of black people, especially considering the generational trauma that a lot brutality andust white police supremacy in general. so what it feels like is aar on black bodies and black people, and to grow up in this movement, right, because i have been in this movement since i was very young and kind of see all of this unfold time ande t

again, it's heartbreaking, and it kind of sometimes makes me feel this world just wasn't meant for my lif be able to live in. >> our school systems, our economic system, the way our cities are set up, it's just noe oppressed, we're meant to not have the same opportunities, and people who see those opportunities everywhere for everyone are kind of being led by the system. we're kind of in the circle of police brutality leading to people feeling hopeless, leading to kids fling hopeless in schools not only because they see those things but also be huse they just donve the same resources. so, for me, it's -- i'm hoping that i can kind of be a voice t' say that thsomething that we need to focus more on is not only ending police brutality and kind of rethinking that but also re-thinking the way that we're

sending our young kids into the aren't prepared.lot of them >> reporter: thandiwe, there are so many expectations for your generation, generation z, and i wonder if you have hope that this is the moment that leads to permanent policy change? >> yeah, generation z, we are fed up, we are the generation that says no more, and i think that we will be the generation that reel really revolutionizes this world and kind of transforms the world for the better, but, at the same time, on the flip side, it is kind of a lot to say that th future of nation is resting on gen z's shoulders, when we've barely even made it out of childhood yet, and i think it is kind of a little bit easy way out for a t of older generation to say, well, this is on y'all, you know, and you havtoake over when, you know, they're not gone

yet. we stilleed all thelp that we can get, so i think that it es have to be a balance between letting gn z and kind of accepting that gen z will be the change and, also, at the same time, ming sure that older nerations are doing their part in making sure our future is bright as wel. >> reporter: jalen thompson in abdullah joining us fromthandiwe h s angeles, thank you bot much for sharing your perspectives. >> thank you. >> woodr analysis of shields and brooks. that's syndicated columnist mar shied "new york times" columnist david brooks. hello to both of you and let's talk about the young voices we have been hearing.

david, generation z, the youngest generation, we've heard them say, in effect, we're not going to take this anymore, things have to cnga can they make a difference with our without our help? >> we hae to realize how different their mindset is than those of us in older generations. if you ask people in te boomer generation are the majority of people around you trustworthy? the majority say yes. if you ask gen z, 65% say no. if you say, are most selfish and out for themselves? 73% of thesay yes. why is that? because they have been raised in a society they feel has been untrustworthy. they've seen the financial crisis, trump, continued racism, climate change, and, so, their sense of age nation andn disillusth society at large is just what we heard. so it's a mucmore radicalized and activist generation, so

they're seeing the world very differently than generations above, and we see that in every workplace. so they certainly have a motivation to do a lot. one thing i worry about is a real dislike of ire arcky of organization -- hierarchy of organization, of authority, and i don't think you can do permanent institutional change unless you're willing to build it with leaders and hierarchy and authority structures that lasts year after year and that's, so far, been missing from most to have the moern social movements. >> woodruff: march, do you hear messages, voices coming from this younger generation that you think can end up making a difference in the fture? >> i sure do, judy. s member, hard as it might be tolieve, the silent generation, the generation who wore t-shirts of white, i stand in awe of theirer intensity,

passion, sense of urgency and justice. hhile not disagreeing wit david's point, i think, to hear that sense of impatience, that justice is, fankly, encouraging and even inspiring. >> reporter: an, -- >> woodruff: and, david, when you combine them with all the other voices we have been hearing in reeseen weeks, whetr having to do directly with what happened to george floyd, whether it's about pol shifting?ounde pol do you sense things will actually change around police reform, around, yo know, policies that people are saying we've had enougof? >> well, there's certain been a shift in attitudes. this has been a markable ek i shifts of attitudes. if you ask people do you support people would say nr," most now by 29 percentage points,

they say yes. if yu ask people what do you fear more, police violence or the violence of the rioting and looting, they say i fear police vience more by two to one. if you ask people, are black people treated unairly and abused unfairly by police, after eric garner was killed in 2014, only 33% said that, now 53% say that. we're seeing dramatic shifts in public opinion with regards to the african-american experience. that's positive. second positive element is the protests have gotten more opeaceful as they've goand the protesters have done a better job of questioning violence than th police. >> woodruff: mark, when the talk aout defund or abolish the police, can this happe we've seen democrats coming forward with reform proposals,li republicans back. we think we'll hear more from

republicans in congress next week. what do you see as the real pressures that could lead to change? >> well, i don't minimize in minmy -- in any way,udy, the presence of nomenclature and naming in a debate. the affordable care act was centered around the term "death panels," that somehow people were going to be sent off to meet thr maker by some unnamed anonymous dical group who would meet and decide their fate, totally unfair and inaccurate, but it got a lot of trtion. d w you speak, anthat's why i say defunding the police, does it mean disbanding the pole? does it mean, in fact, transferring the obligations that pole carry today who really do carry enormous,es e responsibilities of dealing with people who are

homeless, people who are on opioids, people with addiction problems of alcohol and drugs. you know, they really do have as enormous resility, but, if it becomes -- and i am rather cheered that the democrats have not go for the bait in any way, and i think, quite honestly, it's been a miscalculation on whe part of the house on this issue that somehow donald tru could roll back to the election on a "law and order" basis. but i don't in any way minimize that this is very explosive situation still. >> woodruff: so, and, david, in terms of what really could change, we're seeing a willingness to accept, for example, bringing down confederate monuments, changing the names of milita bases except for the president, who said he doesn't want to see this happen, but is it your sense

that people are willing- youth mentione polls, but is that going to lead to legislative change, policy change that will be seen in the afrin-american community as something that's meingful? >> well, if you use the phrase defund the police, it's not change no police is not what the american people want. after ferguson they asked african-americans worldwide, gallup did, do you want a greater police presence or less? right after ferguson they wanted greater police presence, and that's consistenwith pol after poll, people want greater poli presence because more police leads to less crime, which leads to less contact which leads to less violent crime which leads to lesrcs ination. people like the police. i think there are's a real ssible to real change in that. it's interesting how small

reforms can make such a difference. communities who have banned chokeholds have made a big difference. when the rule that the police who chased the person won'tus touch the ct, someone else will, reduces violent encounteth. the hardeg on the police front is changing the corporate culture. hwe have somehow gotten world where the police are basically like the military, they go to boot camp like the military, they dress more like the military, they have a warrior ethos in some departments. changing that culture can be it's been done in camden and done in cities across theo be coun py. >> woodrufking up not just on that but a push to get rid of confederate symbols, mark, do you see that happening? are we now at a moment, a

turning point,if you will, where the things that people accepted before are just not going to be accepted anymore? >> i think we are, judy, and i think the restance, strangely enough, is sete right in white house. it's no accident a republican senate committee this week voted to move ahead on the removal of the names f changing the names of american military bases which were named, let it be noted, long after the civil war, but, obv, iously, an attemst like those statutes were, toes blish the proper order that existed before the civil war,reand they in sou wern statether it's alabama or texas, they were all name for confederate generals. statues isn ongoing discussion and movement, including the

secretary of defense, a republican, and secretary of e herman mccarthy, who was republican, and the stoutest resistce is not from the daughters to have the confederacy but donald trump in the white house who said there will be no changes. i quite frankly think this is a total miscalculation on the paal of dtrump, the president, and his reelection. it's not 1968 when richard nixon could run successfully on the law and order. richard nixon was the unsurgentt he we challenger in 1968. the democrats had been in power for eight years. ten american cities had gone up inlames. 16,000 americans had died in vietnam that year and 590 ericans were there in an unpopular war. the law and order campaign had a traction and a believability which it does not now, and think, quite frankly, there's a

serious mistake that we in thee press mak and i've made it eyself -- when someone wins an election, he or s a genius, when someone loses they're willing to give trump allwere sorts of correct that he has this intuitive the american people, he knows what's going on, that's how he wn in 2016 becau didn't see him winning and, quite frankl he got 45, 46 percent of the vote and that's it, and, if anything, he's getting a lot i think re it's a miscalculation. >> woodruff: finally, david, the president's decision to hold this big capaign rally in tulsa, oklahoma, on june 19th, which is the anniversary of the massacre of blacks in ithatty, coupled with the convention, half the convention? jacksonville,florida -- hatchet convention? jacksonville, florida, what do >> a couple of weeks ago we

talked about trump talking about benefit of the doubt he was ignorant of henry ford's racist ideas. i was ong about that. i assume donald trump knows what juneteenth is. and i'm confident there's somebody who knot wha june 19th and tulsa means and i would think even if they didn't know now they could make a change. this is putting a thumb in the eye of basic decency as far as i'm concerned. you ow respect to your neighbors. how much of this -- you know, doesn't like a confederate flag very,used to represent sla take it down. if your neighbor doesn't like you host ago thing on juneteenth, don't do it. it's jus bsic citizenship. e >> woodruff: t of quite

a week in american life, in american history. david brooks, mark shields, thank you both. mo >> woodruff: a states push forward with reopening, the coronavirus continues to enact a devastating toll on families and communities across the country. we want to again take a moment to remember a few of the remarkable individuals we have lost. hecky powell was often referred to as the unofficial mayor of evanston, illinois. h for 37 yearan hecky's barbeque. their famous sauce was created by him and his parents. hecky employed kids from all walks of life, and that commitment extended beyond his restaurant, to his social work providing opportunities forru ling youth.

the 71-year-old was also a loving father of seven. k toyone ww loretta dionisio could see she wah. loretta fled martial law in the philippines in hersearly 20s and o become a graphic designer and creative director in orlando, florida. a cancer survivor, she traveled the world with her husband of 5 nearyears. the pair were inseparable. around her famil loretta's toughness melted away. they say she was the "sweetest person." loretta was 68 years old.-y r-old zoao makumbi was focused, cerebral, and stern, but his daughter says he had a soft spot for children, especially his grandkids. born in the congo to angolan refugees, zoao led protests in the 1970s for angolan independence from portugal.

after moving to the u.s. in the 1980s, zoao worked as a school psychologist in washinon, d.c. he was passionate about helping low-income black students overcome trauma and learning disabilities. barry webber was a renaissance man: a new york city surgeon who could build cars and computers, and also loved t ballet and classical music. his wife harriie says he was and mysterious, but confident in the emergency and operating rooms, and a gre teacher. he shared his love for rock climbing with his two boys: duncan and michael. barry was 67 years old. marlowe stoudamire was a detroit community activist and entrepreneur, most recently working with the n.h.l. to introduce hoey to urban communities and schools.wa marlowoutgoing; a devoted advocate for underrepresented individuals.

but family was his priority. he met his wife valencia in biology class when they were 14 years old. th went on to have two children: shelby and ian. marlowe was 43. >> woodruff: finally tonight, a lens on america. millions of lenses, and the whole world is watching. in this race matters report, jeffrey brown looks at the power of the camera to shape and shift perceptions, now and in the past. and a warning: this storyin contains distuimages. this report is also part of our ongoing arts and culture serie canvas. >> brown: it begins with a brutal act; at once explosively public and painfully private:n all caughtmera.nc

in the days the killing of with cameras, imagallrld awash ki.s have galvanized millio protesters and police... the lincoln memorial under armed guard. a president, knowing the power of a photo, creating his own... but also creating a different eaage that many americans will never forg: offul demonstrators being forcly removed. indelible images: urgent and immediate. but also part of a long history. >> the camera has been central, central in terms of focusing on the issues of the storytelling of the moment. >> brown: n.y.u. photography historian and curator deborah willis. >> i see the camera as a visual diary. it is recording the voices and make a change.people who want to how do we make a change?

we have to show the evidence of what's going on in the community. >> brown: ¡evidence' through different kinds of images: those of lynchings, used by whites to further terrify the black community. and the brutally beaten body ofl 14 yeaemmett till in his casket in 1955-- photos his mother insisd the world should see. deborah willis was one of theho millionsid. >> i was seven years old when im first saw the of emmett till in "jet" magazine. i'll never forget that moment. ito see that moment, to s also revisited today as a coersation with the unfortunate death of george floyd la week. and, you know, get a little emotional. but just to see that cnection, it really helped us to remember that we need to make a difference.

>> brownin the 1960s, the nightly news showed police using watr cannon and dogs agains civil rights marchers in alabama. images direct to the nation's living rooms. in his art and documentary work, renowned photographer gordon parks captured a life that much of white america wasn't seeing, and images that could have been taken in recent days. this is the mera as a kind of tool, an advocacy tool?or >>n parks said he used a camera as a weapon to show the stories of injustices. i see the photographers today using their lenses to capture moments, to say we need to make we need to make a difference because we can't live like this anymore. >> brown: ever since the 199od beating ofy king by los angeles police, the camera having an impact has often been held by an everyday citizen, a passerby who exposed the

more recently,n 2014, a video of the death of eric garner in new york gave a further push to the blk lives matter movement. in february, ahmaud arbery was shot and killed while running on a georgia street. two months later, after the release of video capturi the scene, arrests were made. in may, a black birdwatcher named christain cooperaped this central park encounter, in a sense directing his own film. >> i'm going to tell them threatening my life. >> tell them whatever you like. >> brown: he'd asked a white woman to leash her dog, as the law calls for. in this case, the camera was his protection. and of course social media allows instant dissemination of images to the world. >> it's a beautiful thing. history of mankindpower of the image has been democratized. right? you don't need an expensive camera to tell a story.ge geor floyd, you know, his story was catapulted into the global consciousness from an iphone.

>> brown: 32 year old mark clennon is a professional photographer who first gained ao owing on instagram. in recent days he's been taking part in and photographing >> the camera's a mirror, right? you break it down, you open up a camera, it's a series of lenses and mirrors. it's my job to just show a mirror to america, what it looks like right now. and rely, as the holder of that mirror, be as accurate as i can and really show that this is more than just a protester-- these are real people. these are real humans, real stories. >> brown: clennon says he feels a responsibility in alhis work, and especially now, to present a portrait of what it means to be africaamerican today. all black artists have to carry. when i first go to a protest, you know, my camera is to my side and i'm just taking in the

gravity of this moment. i have a three month old daughter and when she's an adult she's going to say, i was born in new york city, you know, the epicenter of a global pandemic, and now a loud microphone for this new movement of justice. i've broken down crying at multiple protests. i think why some of the imagestr are sog and people are looking in my eyes, they can see tears in my eyes and the top of my mask is wet, because it feels like, you know, i'm attending a funeral daily. ra brown: so much of american history was photed, documented, written about by white people.rt how imt is it to you to be doing that as a black man? >> i just want to make sure that we have a first-person account. i want to make sure that the black voice is not left out of th conversation, especiall since we are the center of this conversation. we black americans are taking ownership of our stories.

and we can now educate our peers and educate ourselves as a community. and that is unique. that is the number one differentiator between now and the original civil r movement, our ability to tell our stories. >> brown: a still unfolding moment in american history, being captured one image at a time. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: misspoke. i said june 19th was the day of the tulsa massacre. it was not. it was the date that slavery ended. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. have a great weekend. thank you, please stay safe, and good night. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> consumer cellular believes that wireless plans should reflect the amount of talk, text and data that you use. o er a variety of no-

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hello, everyone. welcome to "amanpour & co." here's what's coming up. >> i'm goi to tell them there's an african-american l m. >> tem whatever you like. >> the everyday racism that was caught on camera. isti who posted the video that went viral. is america really listening now? across the pond, britain is forced to face its past. the first minity a top cabinet positionoins me. also -- >> we have a unique propitious moment to address inequities that need to be addressed.