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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, a reckoning on race-- the u.s. grapples with what to do withat confedmonuments, as the calls for overdue justice grow. loud then, new voices-- members of d generationcuss coming of age in tumultuous times of protests and a pandemic. >> we are the generation that sai no more. anink that we will be the generation that really dvolutionizes this world transforms the world for the better. >> woouff: plus it's fday. mark shields and david brooks consider wheer a political shift is underway over race and the role of police, ong with the latest moves in the race for president.e all that and m tonight's
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>> and with the ongoing support of these institutions:nd and frof the newshour. >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting.ib and by conions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: the drive to reform policing in america is gaining more momentum. new york state mov today to ban choke-holds and to release police disciplinary records. governor andrew cuomo signed the changes into law in albany. he also said he will tie state funding to local action. >> we're not going to fund police agencies in this state that do not look at what has been happening, come to terms with it and reform themselves.
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we're not going to as a state police tactics.idizing improper we're not doing it. >> woodruff: meanwhile, louisvillekentucky's city council enacted "breonna's law"o banninnock warrants. it is named for breonna taylor, who was killed by police inside her home. and, president trump said he would favor ending police use of choke-holds, except limited circumstances. he also demanded again that the cityattle end the occupation of its capitol hill neighborhood, by protesters.ia in the presidecampaign, mr. trump defended his plans for a campaign rally on june 19th in tulsa, oklahoma. the day is known as "juneteenth" and commemorates the end of slavery. and, tulsa was the site of a white-on-black massacre in 192 but in a fox news interview, the president dismissed the criticism.
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>> you can really thk about that very positively as a celebration, cause a rally to me is a celebration. it's going to be really a celebration and its an interesting date, it wasn't done for that reason but it's an interesting date, but it's a celebration. >> woodruff: mr. trump als plans to accept the republican re-nomination for president in jacksonville, florida, on august 27th.19 on that date i, a white mob attacked black protesters in wcksonville, an incident known as "ax handle saturday." a federal appeals court in washington heard arguments today over ending the prosecution of michael flynn. the justice department wants toa drop charginst president trump's former national security adviser. he pled guilty to lying to the f.b.i. in the russia probe, then tried to withdraw the plea. more u.s. businesses got then grght to reopen today, in northern california to thes
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san diego zoo. but utah and oregon delayed further acon, as covid-19 infections keep growing. still, the centers for disease control and prevention said it's not yet clear what's csing the resurgence. officials cited several possible factors, ding a teleconference. >> sometimes an increase is driven by increased availability of testing, sometimes it driven by outbreaks and we've seen outbreaks in certain recreational settings, lonterm care facilities. early on we saw clusters in shelters for people experiencing homelessness. >> woodruff: the c.d.c. also posted guidelines that had been expected for weeks. they range from avoidi elevators to safely attending concerts. they do not address such issues as going to church or dating. new protests erupted in hong kong today, marking one year since a violent clash with
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police. thousands of people deusnstrated at bshopping malls. they carried banners and chantea slogans ing for hong kong's independence. riot police stood by, and there was word of violence. the prime minister of lebanon held emergency cabinet talks ktoday, and the central b agreed to try to shore up the economy, amid tstionwide prot beirut woke this morning to reets covered in shatter glass and broken store fronts after clashes beeen demonstrators and security forces. back in this country, the trump protections for trderly ended people against discrimination in health care. e final rule defines gender as a person's biological sex. an obama-era rule defined it as an internal sense of being male, female or some combinati. and, wall street managed a
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partial comeback from thursday's rout.s the dow jodustrial average gained 477 points to close at 25,605. the nasdaq rose 96 points, and, the s&p 500 added 39. still to come on the newshour: an interview with the only black professional nascar driver as thu.s. grapples with its racial history. members of generation z discuss coming of age in tumultuous times of protests and a pandemic.mark shields and davids break down a critical icment in amer plus much more.
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>> woodruff:ore than 150 years after the civil war, monuments, schools and roads across the country still honor confederate generals and leaders. but in the midst of the recent protts demanding racial equality, there is a renewed push to take down the monuments. in a moment, amna nawaz will talk to the man who lead the drive to have nascar ban confederate flags. but first, lisa desjardins looks at how the death of george floyd remove public symbols of the confederacy. >> desjardins: it is perhaps the greatest dismantling of the confederacy since the civil war. in richmond, virginia... >> hands up! don't shoot!rd >> dess: in birmingham, alabama, confederate statues removed, or protests demanding their removal.ne orleans... jacksonville, florida... across the country, it is a
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extension of the protes against racism after george >> i think what's ing right now in the present moment is that people are really beginning to understan we mean by the structures of white suemacy. >> desjardins: while se argue the monuments honor southern ancestors, lecia brooks of theer southern p law center says orst went up either early in the twentieth centururing the civil rights era, as racist groups like the ku klux klan flexed their muscle. someave come down before. like the confederate flag off south carolina state housell grounds ing the murder of nine afran-americans in a charleston church in 2015. and statues removed after a white nationalist rally in charlottesville in 2017. but brooks senses something different now. >> i think we're in the midst of a real inflection point. i have never seen so, such a multi breath, racial, multi- ethnic coation of protesters
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demanding an end to anti-black racism. >> desjardins: for some the monuments are an important >> you were traitors. you attempted to secede from the that had the audacity to lose and then put up monuments of your loss?! that feels like a great lie. and racism is what has allowed it to be a lie.e, >> for lot of these monuments represent times members of my family and m r culture and e have suffered. >> by removing these statues, it's going to give people an opportunity to really reexaminee the history ofivil war and recotruction and jim crow an all that went with it. >> desjardins: according the southern poverty law center, at0 least ites across the country commemorate the confederacy, either with a monument or place name. among them: ten military bes named for confederate officers,
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including fort bragg in north carolina and fort hood in texas. defense secretary esper has signalled he's open to changing those names. retired army colonel mike jason wrote an op-ed to pentagon leaders this week. >> i've seen the emails and paperwork, i've spoke to commanders and peers and colleagues, and they're ready to make this happen. they're talking to soldiers; they're generating options and alternatives. heeat men and women have served this country andre excited to do this. >> desjardins: but president ump himself has vehemently pushed back, tweeting these bases are part of great american heritage and his administration would not even considerenaming them. but this week the senate armed republicans, voted behind closed doors to require renaming those bases within three years. mike round republican of south dakota. >> we don't want to fo what's happened in the past. but at thedoame time, that n't mean that we should the names of indiv whoses, with
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foug >> desjardins: but congress facean issue under its own roof-- about the statues in the u.s. capitol itself. m 11 statuorialize confederate leaders, including confederate present jefferson davis. and confederate general josephee r standing just a few feet away from a plaque marng the spot of abraham lincoln's desk congress. house speaker pelosi this weekco asked foress to now take all the confederate statues off display. can you imagine jefferson davis? alexander stephens? treason, they committed treason against the united states of america. and their statues are stilhere because their states put them here.s: >> desjardepublican senator roy blunt, who oversees the committee responsible for the statues, says moving them is possible, but only the states can take them out of the capitol. and some states are. like arkansas, about to replace its controversial statues with musician johnny cash and cil rights activist and journalist daisy bates.
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it is a cultural turn. nascar this week banned the confederate flag from its events.na th and marine corps have also just banned the flag. but some worry this is a slippery slope toward the removal of monuments to founding fathers, many of whom were slave owners. others say the cntry needs to more educated about its racist past. >> i don't agree with the wholesale removal of everything that pertains to the confederacy because we need to understand what our history is, it's that we don't need thy gs that glorat history. >> they need to be put cn a historictext that they're not being put into. and there's so mucwork and healing to be done in this country. it's just it's really not possible when you have pple worshipinghese symbols of oppression. >> desjardins: the confederacy survived for only four years, but it has shaped discrimination and divide for generations since now, again, a test of how long
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its symbols will stand. for the pbs newshour, i'm lisa desjardins. >> nawaz: now for nascar, the decision to ban the confederate flag represents a major shift: the flag has long been a hard- to-miss presence at races. this photo shows some flying at the homestead miami speedway, just in 2018. the driving force this week pushing for the ban has been bubba wallace, a driver in nascar's top series, who's been elevating the ise of racial equality in that community. at recent races, he's worn irts with the message "i can't breathe." and wednesday evening, he raceda 50 in a car sporting a special "black lives matter" paint scheme.ve nascar dbubba wallace joins us now. thanks for making the time and welcome to the "newshour". iwant to ask you about this decision becau happened pretty quickly. seems like, within days of you making that request, nascar sai all-out ban on the flag, but they've wrestled wit before. i re1member back in 205, they
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encouraged fans to stop bringing the flag, and the fns igored them. so why do you think they did this ban, an all-out ban now? >> well, good to be talking you, first of all. really, it's somethg that needed to be done. since then, obviously way before said, way back thn, the flagyout belongs in history books and museum now, and i'm proud of nascar for stepping up andta ng that action to get rid of the flag. >> reporter: do you thinkg there's somethout this time that we find ourselves in now that it's not enough to encourage fans to not bring it we have to ban it. >> yes. i had conversations with thatsp leadershipifically steve phelps, the president, and talking of how we needed to take
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affirmative action to get rid of the flag immediately and do a culture shift with thsport. the sport has such bag stigma about us, and i want to show that we can provide so much more than the hiry's past and make this about inclusion, diversity, unity, and coming together as one. >> rep bubba, let me ask you about the future of the a lot of sports ratings. viewship has been gog down. do you think that their concerns about turning away or alienating potential new fans were part of their decision right now? >> actually, the stats we have been getting, the viewership's be going up, so -- obviously, all sports have gone down from across all boards, but our sports teams kind of lead ithe forefront, and our sport being the first back afterhis covid 19 pandemic really shows the leadership that we have and how we can take on what's new for us and create the new normal
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for right now. so fans are going to start coming back soon, and i' excited for when it's back to the old ways of fans being able to come up, purchase the ticket and enjoy the race, because thas demographioing to be a lot different than what we've seen in the past, that's my hope, an uly believe in that. the change has started and is coming and still is in ful form. >> reporter: what do you mean by that when you say the future demographic is going to be different than you've seen in the past? >> it's just going to be a different face, i feel like. we've always talked abouthaving a more diverse background, a diverse fan base in the stands, apeople of allces and colors going to be there to support ver.r favorite dri doesn't even have to be me, but just being there and enjoyingr th time, cheering own their favorite dr eiverting, having a good time with the families. it's a family sport. we encourage the families to a come od have stun. >> reporter: bubba, it's worth pointing out you are theirst full-time black driver since
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1971 in nascar, and youre mentioned behat you heard from first-time rce-goers that they came to the races, saw the flag and made them feel uncomfortable and you didn't want them uncomfortable. but what about you, all the years in participating in what is an overwhelmingly white leort, did the flag make you feel uncomfort >> it didn't. i always had the mindset, and maybe i was blinto it, of just going out there and chasing checkered flags, and nowing more open and more of a leader on the matter, it's notabout me. it's about the people i'm representing, my fan base. i encourage my fans to come out to races, and if fans have a problem witeth somng, then i feel like it's up to me to stand up for what's right andto create equality and make everybody feel comfortable going wherever they are. rethat's what's wrong, weso afraid of stepping outside of our box to enje, you know, th
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unknowns and, you know, i'm a person that lives life on the edge and has no holdbacks and i encourage people to do that as well. when there are certain things that we can control as peple pulling a different demographic back, let's just come togetheran meet in the middle and get rid of it. w reporter: bubba, i have to ask you becaure having this conversation after millions g, people watched the video of george floyd dynd you shared recently that you have seen it, that your mom saw it, and that she sent you a message after that. what was that message? s >> yea just said, you know, she hopes -- she prays she'll never have to see me lying on the ground saying i can't breathe and that my life matts to her. s that's a pretty impactful message and that just pushed me to keep doing the things i'm doing off the track to change the world. >> reporter: can i ask you what yu first thought when you saw the video?
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it was disgusting to see, and i was hurt. was hurt for two or three weeks prior to that over thd amrbery video, being hunted down and killed in broad daylight. so i have been feeling at lot of hurt and painn and ager just like the african-american community has. so this was the tip of the iceberg where we're simply tired of trying to peacefully protest and say somethingand nothing happen. so you see all this chaos and whatnot going on, we're tired, we're hurting, we're in pain. the african-american people are trying to speak out and say they want change, and change is coming. >> but very briefly, in a few seconds weave left there, people who are going to look at the ban and say, okay, this flag is important to t me, part ofhe heritage, if nascar is done with the flag, i'm donei wth nascar. what would you say to them? >> it's tougto chnge the
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simple-minded people who are stuck in their ways and don't wantto adapt to change, that's tough. a good fiend of mine, marty smith, espn, says nascar is not closing the dooru, they're opening the door to many others. so that stuck out to me.tt that's ppowerful there. >> reporter: bubba walivlace, for nascar joining us from north carolina. bubba, thank you so much for making the time. >> yep, thanks. >> woodruff: america's youngest labeneration, known as "gen-z," those born in the late 1990's and early 2000's, enters adulthood as the nation grapples with systemic inequities in our institutions, from policing to health care. the newshour's student reporting labs, our journalismam for high school students, spoke to
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utens across the country a how they s this moment. >> a lot of times you hear people say, oh, all lives matter when they trto counter the tack lives matter movement. so my question f people who say this: when will there be equal opportunity in ameca for all races? >> how are we as a country going to eradicate this issue of racism when it happens to beep rooted in our government ociety and the history o america? what is our next step? >> when are we going to see and address health disparities and disparities in education? we can't live in a country that is embedded in institutionalize0 racism for oveyears. the time is now to create change. >> i just wonder, wh't people more compassionate? why aren't people doing more? you know, we're all americans. we're all people.
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so why should i have to be treated less tn? >> my goal with all of this isth to mak country is safer for my kids to live here. >> it feels like there's so many people right now who just hen't really btrying or who and obviously a whrsonl. never truly understand that. but how do you get them to just ferecognize that life is dnt for black people than white people in this country? becae it seems like somethin that so many people are in denial of. >> i've donated, i sign petitions. i've been posting on my social media. but i'm wondering what else there is that i can do to support the social justice movement? because i feel like i need to do more. and i have a responsibility to takeore action, but i don't opow how to do that. >> with all the who are screaming out for change, will there be a change? >> to build safer ronger change. communities, it's going to take
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everyone. to combat racism in america. you have to have conversations with your friends, your family, your colleagues. and it's going to be hard. but the conversations are definitely worth it. >> woodruff: as you just heard, america's teenagers king tough questions. they're also offering solutions. stephanie sy spoke to two young black lives matter organizers about why they are protesting and their vision for change. >> reporter: in the wake of the late black men by police, a new crop of young leaders is emerging. they're part of generation z, and with thr bold calls for dismantling traditional policing and other sytems, some say they hold the keys to lasting changed i'm joow by two young organizationers, 16-year-old thandiwe abdullah, co-found of black lives matter l.a. youth swran gawrksd and 17-year-old
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jalen thompson of o'fallon, missouri, he was one of the lead protesters of his protest. thanyou so much for being wih us. jalen, not only did you help toh organize protest in o'fallon, missouri, population 88,000, but i understand this was your first protest. can you describe what thaday was like for you? >> for me, it was very, very sut eal, i guess is the by to say that. this has been kind of a breaking point seeing we're jut now graduating and leaving into the world, so it's scary tonk thi this could be us some day, and see so many peple comingppy to together to kind of start having this conversation even in place where is it's not often tlked about. >> reporter: jalen, there's a picture of youta protest holdign a si that simply says "i am human, too," which is a pwerfu statement, but another powerful statement is that you were armin rm with o'fallon's police
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chief. can you describe what that felt consider the polibe theo many problem? >> well, here in o'fallon, we definitely have t much beter relationship with our police officers than a lot of other places, and i think that's why'r working with them to kind of keep the protests safe. it's not a of the officers that are the problem, but it's the system that they operate they areto do these things blder. that they do that are sometimes inhuman, basically, and they're able to get away with a lot of it because of the way that our system works, and that's why we need to change it. >> reporter: thandiweu abdullah, ve been organizing a protest in los angeles which is one of the places where poice are criticized for the way they handled videos. we've seen lice be violent thwarts even peaceful protesters so i wonder how you read when a police officer is part of a
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march or takes a knee? >> i view this as a systemic i believe in the good cop problem. narrative. i believe there are good people who decide to become cops, but in choosing to do that, i feel you are choosing to join an oppressive system. >> reporter: we've heard two phrases, defund police and abolish police, become popular in recent weeks. i won tr what younk of the effectiveness of that language. >> what i think a lot o people men when they say dfund or abolish police, we need to reimagine what safety looks like. it's not we don't want law enforcement security for our communities, but we need to reimagine what that looks like. someone imagined this world that we live in today, and, so, i think we need to think aout, you know, really taking the time to think of something different, right. we have imaginations, let's use them.es afety look like community-based security? does safety look like mental health, does it look like affordable housing?
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does it look like the security guard that works at your schoola wey need to just take that time to dream of somethitt . >> it's going to be hard, and just like with all the defunding the police and kd of reimagining, as she said, witht the police t need to do, it's going to take a while, and that's why bewe need t involved in the fight as we can be starting now so that, down the road, in a few years from now, we're still going to be ere. thandiwe, i want to play a short clip of you at one of the protests. take a listen. >> i'm graduating this ye. (cheering) and the world that i am about to head up into does not want me! >> reporter: absolutely heartbreaking to hear the sentiment that you feel in that vide thandiwe. i wonder if you can talk about how the trauma of continually seeing unaed black people shot and killed by police has
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affected you. >> we do have to start considering e mental health d emotional toll that it takes on black people to see these videos constantly on social media and even the news now. they don't sensor -- i remember when i saw amaud arbery on the news, notng was sen soared, it was the complete video of the murder, d it does something to, i think, not only me but to a lot of black people, especially considering the generational trauma that a lot of us have in terms of police brutality and just white supremacy in general so what it fels like is a war on black bodies and back people, and to grow up in this movement, right, because i have been in this movement since i was very young and kind of see all of tis unfold time and time
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again, it's heartbreaking, an k d of sometimes makes me feel this world just wast meant for my life to be able to teve in. >> our school sy, our economic system, the way our cities are set up, it's just noe oppressed, we're meant to not have the same opportunities, and people w see the opportunities everywhere for everyone are kind of being led by the system. we're kind of in the circle of lice brutality leading to people feeling hopeless, leading to kids feeling hopeless in schools not only because they see those things but also because they jst don't havthe same resources. so, for me, it's -- i'm hopg that i can kind of be a voice to say that that's something that we need to focus more on ins only ending police brutality and kind of rethinking that bu atso re-thinking the way that we're world because a lot o themo the
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aren prepared. >> reporter: thandiwe, there are so many expectations r your generation, generation z, and i wonder if you have hope that this is the moment that leads to permanent polic change? >> yeah, generation z, we are fed up, we are the generation s ths no more, and i think that we will be the generation that reel really revolutionizes this world and kind of transforms the world for the better, but, at the same time, on the flip side, it is kind of a lot to say that the future of this entire world and this nation is resting on gen z's shoulders, when we've rely even made it out of childhood yet, and i think it is kind of a little bit easy way out for a lot of older generation to say,e , this is on y'all, you know, and you have to take over when, you know, they're not gone yet. we still need all the help that
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we can g, so i think tt it does have to be a balance between let ating gend kind of accepting that gen z will be the change and, also, at theak same time,g sure that older generations are doing their part in making sure our future is bright as well. >> reporter: jalen thompson in o'fallon, missouri, and thandiwe abdullah joining us from los angeles, thank you both so much for sharing your perspectives. t nk you. >> woodruff: now we turn to the analysis of shields and brooks. that's syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks.ll to both of you and let's talk about the young voices we have been hearing. david, generation z, the
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youngest generation, we've heard them say, in effect, we're not going to take this anymore, can they make a difference with our without our help? >> we have realize how those of us in olderset is than generations. if you ask people in the boomer generation are the majority of peopleround you trustworthy? the majority say yes. if you ask gen z, 65% say no. if you say, are most selfish and out for themselves? 73% of them say yes. why is that?ca e they have been raised in a society they feel has beeny. untrustwor they've seen the financial crisis, trump, continued racism, imate change, and, so, their sense of age nation and disillusion with soct large is just what we heard. so it's a much more radicalized and activist generation, so they're seeing the world very
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differently than gener aions abov we see that in every workplace. a they certainly have a motivation to dot. one thing i worry about is ai reallike of ire arcky of organization -- hierarchy of organization, of authority, and i don't think you can do permanent institutional change unless you're willing to build it with leaders and hierarchy and authority structures that lasts year after year and that's, so far, been missing frommost to hav the modern social movements.oo >>uff: march, do you hear messages, voices coming from this younger generation that you think can end up making a differce in the fute? >> i sure do, judy. as member, hard as it might be toth believee silent generation, the generation who wore t-shirts of white, i sta passion, seof urgency andty,
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justice. while not disagreeing withda d's point, i think, to hear that sense of impatience, that justice is, frankly, encouraging and even inspiring. >> reporter: and -- >> woodruff: andvi, d, when you combine them with all the other voices we have been hearg in reeseen weeks, ether having to do directly with what happened to george floyd, whether it's about polrme reis the polifical ground ng? do you sense things will actually change around police reform, around, you know, policies that people are saying we've had enough of? >> well, there's certainly been a shift in att this has been a markable week in shifts of attitudes. if you ask people do you support "black lives matter," most peop would say no. now by 29 percentage points, they say yes. if you as pkople what do you
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fear more, police violence or the violence of the rioting and looting, they sa i fear police violence more by two to one. if you ask peopll are back people treated unfairly and abused unfairly by police, after eric garner was killed in 2014, only 33% said that, now 53% say that. we're seeing dramatic shifts in public opinion with regards to the african-american experience. that's positive. second positive element is thets prothave gotten more peaceful as they've gone on and the protesters have done a tter job of questioning violence than the police. >> woodruff: mark, when they talk about defund or abolish the police, can this happen? we've seen democrats comingre forward witorm proposals, republicans holing back. we think we'll hear more from republicans in congress next
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week. what do you see as the real pressures that culd lead to change? >> well, i don't minimize minmy- in any way, judy, the presence of nomenclate and naming ia debate. the affordable care act was centered around the term "death panels," that somehow peo te were goi be sent off to meet their maker by some unnamed anonymous medical group who would meet and decide their fate, totally unfair and inaccurate, but it got a lotf traction. how you speak, and that's why i say defunding theolice, does it mean disbaing the police? does it mean, in fact, transferring the obligations that police carry today who really do carry enormous, awesome responsibilities of dealing with people who are homeless, people who are on
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opioids, people with addiction problems of alcoh and drugs. you know, they really do have an enormous responsibility, but, if it becomes -- and i am rather cheered that the demrats have way, and i think, quite honestly, it's been a miscalculation on the part of the white house on this issue that somehow donald trump could roll back to the electn on a "law and order" basis.d but 't in any way minimize that this is a very explosive situation still. >> woodruff: so, and, david, in terms of what rea change, we're seeing a willingness to accept, for example, bringing wn confederate monuments, changing the names of military bases, except for the president, who said he doesn't want to see this happen, but is it your senseat eople are willing -- you
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going to lead to legislativetat change, policy change that will be seen in the african-american community as something that's meaningful? >> well, if you use the phrase defund the police, it's not change. no police is not what the american people want. after feguson they asked african-americans worldwide, gallup did, do you want a greater police presence or les right after ferguson they wanted greater police presence, and that's consistent with pol after poll, people want greater police presen becse more police leads to less crime, which ads toss contact which leads to less violnt crime whicads to less incarceration. people like the police. i ink there are's areal possible to real change in that. it's interesting how all
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reforms can make such a difference. communities who have banned chokeholds have made a big difference. when the rule that the police who chased the prson won't touch the suspect, someone else will, reduces violent encounters. the harder thing on the police front is changing the corporate culture. we have dmehow gotten the wo where the police are basically like the military, they go to boot camp like the military, they dress more like the military, they have a warrior ethos in some departments. changing that culture can be done. it's been done in camden an other places but it has to be done in citieacross the country. >> woodruff: pickingot just on that but a push to get rid of confederate symbols, mark, do you see that ppening? are we now at a moment, a turning point, if youill,
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where the things that people accepted before are just note going to accepted anymore? >> i think we are, judy, and i think the resistance, strangely enough, is setight in the white house. it'so accident a republican to move ahe on the removal ofted the names -- of changing the mes of american military bases which were named, let it be noted, long after the civil r, but, obviously, an attempt, just like those statute twer reestablish the proper order that existed beforee civil war, and they were in southern states whether it's alabama or texas, they were all named for confederate generals. i think what you have on the statues is an ongoing diuson and movement, including the
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secretary of defensea republican, and secretary of the herman mccarthy, who was republican, and the stoutest resistance is not from the daughters to have the the white house who said there will be no changes. i quite frankly think this is a total miscalculation on the part of donald trump, the president,i an reelection. it's not 1968 when richard nixon could run successfully on the law and order. richard nixon was the unsurgent, he was the challengein 1968.cr the des had been in power for eight years. ten american cities hone up in flames. 16,000 americans had died in vietnam that year and 590 americans were there in an the law and order campaign had a traction and a believability which it does not now, and i think, quite frankly, there's a serious mistake that we in the
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mress make -- and i've made it myself -- when seone wins an election, he or she is a geniuso when someones they're obviously a dunce, ad we were willing to give donald trump all sortof correct that he has this intuitive connection with the american people, he knows whw's going on, that's h he won in 2016 because we didn't see him winning and,quite frankly, he got 45, 46 of the vote and that'st, and, if anything, he's getting a lot less now. i 'ink really its a miscalculation. >> woodruff: finally, david, the president's decion to hold this bigampaign rally inon june, which is the anniversary of the massacre of blacks in that city, coupled with the convention, half the convention? jacksonville, florida -- hatchet sonvention? jaille, florida, what do we make of this? >> a couple of weeks ago we
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talked about trump talking about henry ford and gave him the ignorant of henry forisd's ract ideas. i was wrong about that. i assume donald trump knows what juneteenth is. and i'm confident there's somebody who knows what june 19th and tulsa means and i would think even if they didn't know now they could make a change. this is putting a thumb in the eye of basic decencys far as i'm concerned. you show respect to your neighbors. ho,much of this -- you kn it's clear, if your neighborhood doesn't like a confederate flags thated to represent slavery, take it down. if yohbur ne doesn't like you host ago thing on juneteenth, don't do it. it's just basic citizenship. >> woodruff: the end of quite a week in american life, in
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american history. david brooks, mark shields, thank you both. >> woodruff: as more states push forward with reopening, the coronavirus continues to enact a devastating toll on families and communities across the country. we want to again take a moment to remember a few of the remarkable individuals we have lost. hecky powell was often referred to as the unofficial mayor of evanston, illinois. for 37 years he ran hecky's barbeqth. r famous sauce was created by him and his parents. hecky employed kids from all walks of life, and thatit cont extended beyond his restaurant, to his social work providing opportunities for struggling youth. the 71ear-old was also a
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anyone who knew lodionisio uld see she was tough. loretta fled martial law in the philippines in her early 20smend rose to be graphic designer and creative director in orlan, florida. the world with hernd oftraveled nearly 50 years. the pair were inseparable. around her family, loretta's toughness melted away. they say she was thetest person." loretta was 68 years old.ao 75-year-old akumbi was focused, cerebral, and stern, but his daughter says he had a soft spot for children, especially his grandkids. born in the congo to angolan refugees, zoao led protests in the 1970s for angolan independence from portugal.
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after moving to the u.s. in the 80s, zoao worked as a school psychologist in washington, d.c. he was passionate about helping low-income black students overcome trauma and learning disabilities. barry webber was a renaissance man: a new york city surgeon wh could burs and computers, and also loved the ballet and classical music. his wife harriet says hestas quiet and ious, but confident in the emergency and operating rooms, and a great teacher. he shared his love for rock climbing with his two boys: duncan and michael. barry wa67 years old. marlowe stoudamire was a detroit community activist and entrepreneur, most recently working with the n.h.l. to introduce hockey to urba marlowe was outgoidevoted advocate for underrepresented individuals.
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but family was his priority. he met his wife valencia in biology class when they were 14 years old. they went on to have two children: shelby and ian. marlowe was 43. >> woodruff: finally tonight, a lens on america. millions of lenses, and the whole world is watching. in this race matters report, of the camera to shape and shift perceptions, now and in thepa st. and a warning: this story .contains disturbing imag this report is also part of our ongoing arts and culture series, canvas. e brown: it begins with a brutal act; at oplosively public and painfully private: all caught on camera.
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in the days since the killing of george floyd, in a world awash wi cameras, images of all kinds have galvanized millions. protesters and police. the lincoln memorial under armed guard... a president, knowing t power of a photo, creating his own... but also creating a different image that many ericans will never forget: of peaceful demonstrators being forcibly removed. indelible images: urgent and immediate. but also part of a long history. >> the camera has been central,t central ms of focusing on the issues of the storytelling of the moment. historian and curator deborah willis. >> i see the camera as a visual diy. it is recording the voices and the images of people who want to make change. how do we make a change? we have to show the evidence of community.ng on in the
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>> brown: ¡evidence' through different kinds of images: those of lynchings, used by whites to further terrify the blackun commy. 14 year old emmettin hisbody of casket in 1955-- photos his mother insisted the worlshould see. deborah willis was one of the millions who did. >> i was seven years old when i etfirst saw the image of e till in "jet" magazine. i'll never forget that moment. to see that moment, to see it also revisited today a conversation with the unfortunate death ofeorge floyd last week. and, you know, get a little emotiona but just to see that connection, it really helped us to remember that we need to make a difference. >> brown: in the 10s, the
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nightly news showed police using water cannonnd dogs against civil rights marchers in images direct to the nation's living rooms. in his art and documentary work, renowned photographer gordon parks captured a life that much of white america wasn't seeing, and images that could have been taken in recent days. this is the camera as a kind of tool, an advocacy tool? >> gordon parks said he used a camera as a weapon to show the stories of injustices. i see the photographers today are doing the same, they'reth usinr lenses to capture moments, to say we need to make d change. we n make a difference because we can't live like this anymore. >> brown: ever since the 1991 beating of rodney king by los angeles police, the came having an impact has often been held by an everyday citizen, a passerby w exposed the more recently, in 2014, a video of the death of eric garner in
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new york gave a further push to the black lives maer movement. in february, ahmaud arbery was shot and killed while running on a georgia street. two months later, after the release of video capturing the scene, arrests were made. in may, a black birdwatcher named christain cooper taped this central park encounter, in a sense directing his own film. >> i'm going to tell them there's an african american mane ening my life. >> tell them whatever you like. >> brown: he'd askto a white womaeash her dog, as the law calls for. protection.amera was his and of course social media allows instant dissemination of images to the world. >> it's a beautiful thing. for the first time in the y of mankind, the power the image has been democratized. right? you don't need an expensive mera to tell a story. george floyd, you know, his story was catapulted iono the globalsciousness from an iphone. clennon is a professionaler
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photographho first gained a following on instagram. in recent days he'been taking part in and photographing protests in new york. >> the camera's a mirror, right? you break it down, yn up a camera, it's a series of lenses and mirrors. it's my job to just show a mirroro america, what it looks like rightow. and really, as the holder of that mirror, be accurate as i can and really show that this is more than just a protester-- these are real people. these are real humans, real stories. >> brown: clennon says he feels a responsibility in all his work, and especially now, to present a portrait of what it means to be african american today. >> it's a responsibility that all black artists have to carry. when i first go to a protest, you know, my camera is to my side and i'm just taking in the gravity of this moment.
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i have a three month older daugnd when she's an adult she's going to say, i was born in new york city, you know, the epicenter of a global pandemic, d now a loud microphone for this new movement of justice. i've broken down crying at multiple protests. are so strong and aree images looking in my eyes, they can see tears in my eyes and the top ofm k is wet, because it feels like, you know, i'm attending a funeral daily. >> brown: so much of american history was photographed, documented, written about by white people. how important is it to you to be doing that as a black >> i just want to make sure that we have a first-person account. i want to make sure that the black voice is not left out of this conversatn, especially since we are the center of this conversation. we black americans are taking ownership of our stories. and we can now educate our peers
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and educate ourselves as a community. and that is unique. thats the number one differentiator between now and the original civil rights movement, our ability to tell our stories. >> brown: a still unfolding moment in american history, being captured one image at a time. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: misspoke. i said june 19th was the day of the tulsa massacre. it was not. it was the date that slavery ended. and that's the newshour for tonight. have a great weekend. thank you, please stay safe, and good night. >> major funding for the pbsne wshour has been provided by: >> consumer cellular believes that wireless plans reflect the amount of talk, text and data that you use. we offer a variety of no- contract wireless plans for
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tonight on kqed. as protests continue we incont the impact of every day and racism in our institutionings and our relationships and at work. easing restrictions on restaurants and retailers in san francisco. we will discuss the obstacles shand opportunities ing economic recovery. >> plus schools get guidance on how to reopen in the fall and will students d parentfeel safe? d clemons a da welcome.in the midst of a healt we as a nation are reckoning with the choices of our past and the
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