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the publication for public broadcasting from viewersike you. thank you. once again, from washington, moderator, robertosta. robert: and andcross the nation. but it's down the steet at thep l, where the date is heating up.s will t powerful movement translate into in new federal policy.de crats incrudes a federal ban on cke clep holds and pulls back from prosecution and senator scott are talking about a new national data base. president trump is not signing off on any proposal. in his decisio to hold a rally

in tulsa, oklahoma and riled his critics and called it insid year ove and the tulsa is where one of the worst massacres took place. the predent i rejeggetting a push to renime name military bases and yet on friday, mr. trump announced he has been beneficial. >> i have done f mor of the black community and let's take a it is questionable. oln. >> we are free, mr. president. >> i'm go to go take a pass. robert: four first-rate report

go. wesley lowery, andrea mitchl and ashley parker, white house reporter for the "washington post" and jake sherman, senior writer for politico. you have one a a applies. you wrote, what if the activists are write and dismantle criminal justice,hat might that look like. west w emp s, what are the black lives movement seeking? wesley: it is interesting. here we are again and seeing

this every fewonths for the last few years. another taste that shocks the country unless there is gray area inub terms of thecar a. and one of the reasons we have en in broad response is because a lot of people are tired of this and tired of dealinghis again. the activists. the a leaders organizers have always argued there are wig systemic pblems and not body camerahe but whole system is broken. one of the reasons we are seeing such and the arica cap public is pleesk it. and the electorate says perhaps

this isn't bad nents b there is something more structural and we are seeing a significant shift for the americaneoe on these issues and more in hine where the activists are. robert: when we hear the phrase defund the police, what isse th ph callingor? >>nd grassroots folks and sounds crazy top else and how to explain it. my understanding from my understanding of defunding the police means looking at your police budget and taxpayer money is going to police. and they are asked to solve most

of their problems. we have a health care system that is underfunded and we call the police on a homeless person. and we call the police who is acting erratic. to call the police and instead the type of services. and instead of increasing the police budget, instead increasing thehe mentath budget. that is the argument. robert: andrea: drea, you spoke with the former pice chief of camden, new jersey and went to a >> we are a nation that that has

we shall going to invest in community strength as oppose todd try to treat with with jails and more expensive and worsens the problems that we claim we are trying to solve. bert: when you talk to these leaders are you seeing a change or like the gun control debate? andrea: right now, there is not a lot of bipartisan action, senator scott, the only african-american senator and leading the charge on the senate de but they are talking about establishing a data best and not banning chokeholds and the things that the house democrats havepo pd and that

legislation is going to pass and we heard today from a mum of the house democrats, they have the and something bigger and better from the president, late tonigh he might be in favor of banning chokeholds and unclear what h might support. and what the republicans are lookingt. i think something wil happen. as w emp s and h is on the ground and we have wauched the protests there ia different tone and widespread. for something to get through that will be signed and n vetoed from the president, the president sees as a very successfull cultu war issue

and that's what he is focusing on. and democrats agree that defunding is a bad slogan forem and want to explain that is spending more on trying to avoid theha conflict is engaged in when the police take on an sure andho is having a drug issue or menta health issue. robert: i saw you thiweek talking to mark meadows and talking to lawmakers, how does this playout? is there a consensus on banning chokeholds? what are you hearingehind the scenes? >> i agree with everydy has said. the issue has moved so mu

faster than we have seen any political issue. a kevin mccart wri who is very clos to the president of the unions united states and mark meadows h said he is banning chokeholds. and rand paul who is his own island, but this is an interesting thingot to he is in favor of no-knock warrants. put those two things together and republins at this point are not dumping all over the democrats' bill. asked him wt are you opposed? ar he didn' want to talk about

it. that's all noteal. they are ting to give a president who shifts a lot, leeway to make up his own mind and jared kushner andoe he president have any law enforcement back grouped and a lot of moving pieces. in the next four to six weeks, we will see some action. one interesting question i have, will democrats settle for something ae bit m modest. there are reasons to and the house and will come back next week and will be discussion robert: president trump and how he is going to use his political why is he going to tulsa,

oklahoma and theoversa it has caused and among republicans about that sensitive day? >> the white house is aware of the controversy and the history now. campaign chose t date, they were ununtensional and were not awar and once they found out, they decided to move ahead. the president was not concerned about any of th safety implications, those of coronavirus and there is a wamb that they have to click and sign and if they get the coronavirus and will n hold the president or campaign or on this date in is moment with protests and

what that might meet and clashing with trumpupporters robert: can you jump ahead with this signifance? they are aware of the significance. what is thee? significa wesley: that is a pretty remarkle true thing and reporting from aley. the president of the united states may not beware when you have the emancipation and this is somethinghat is largely regarded as unofficial, official black holiday. time of type of tng that former president might have put a statement on. it is very interesting. going back in time, i was

thinking about jake's excellent reporting fromon "the hill." thing that is interested, oneha thing is interesting here, even the democratso bill, s is veryilar to some of the things they proposed after gunontrol and passing this into law tomorrow is unlike ickly to see these void yose and not to say i'm not saying s thuld do thing in the bill, but background checks wouldn't stop this. the choke holds but one of those do and everyone wants to something and also, you know. robert: that's an importan thing. andrea, wst else i needed to

address systemic racism? w do you prevent racism from being a trait in police? andrea: the answers thaare proposed include recruitment and training and penalties and enforcemt where the police chiefs and the leadership has to be willing t punish people and not indemnify tm and o prop is insurance companyes inse so if it is not being paid, few payments being made of payments to victims, they are coming out of insurance companies and people, elect the

officials. you are not going to eminate but can change training and recruitment and the kind of people who care aboutot reaching a.m. weapon or a knee or somother way of murdering a victim in 8:46. that's the horror of what happened here. robert: as all of this is happening on capitol hill andtu debate begins to debate, there are other dynamics. let's dig deeper angrowing btensionsween the president and germ mark mill yes -- milleo idered resigning and days ahead of the president's

commence hit address and germ apologized. >> as many of you saw the photograph of me, that sparked national debate about the roll of the military. i should not have been there. my presence created a perception of the military involved in domestic politics. it was a mistakehat i learned from and i sincerely from we can learn from it. robert: sorry for that audio difficulty. will it spped to the republican party? i documented it in the "washington post," conversations in the highest ran of the party and septemberance phase and they see no advantage of breaking with the president n.

what does your reporting tell you hownt the presi is responding to general milley? >> to look at it mor broadly. there is consternation with the military bricking with the president. secretary esper something and he said he didn't kn where he was walking and thought he wasa checkin port -a-potey. he didn't realize he would be making a cam yeoh. there is a l of consternation. you have to go back to that monday night in lafayette square andhe president was called week and heanted to take control of the streets and

wanted to create a moment and he created a moment but not as he intended. and people rarely break with this administration. and even from westg w privately and on back groubds but to havehe military breaking from him was onehing he was unprepared. some back hash from t religious and it was ridiculous and those image makes him so tough and strong, tt split screen of the peaceful protest getting ter gas, that just served again hardened public opposition and move support away from his law and order push and

to the protest test tors and he is reeli it from the aftermath. rotf i reserve the balance time. where do republicans go from here? you have been talking to them all week. >> and various networks, republicans have decided pat him on the head, president trum that is. they are not longer to defend him a say, we deposit see that, and don't know the information and don't w knowt he does and remarkable to see every single day there is a new one of these, blowu milley or some tweet alleged antifa and a 75-year-old man from and it is

incredible f sate republicans to fight for their control of washington. thank you but we are going into the lunch but do it toll avoid this question. that is the driving dynamic. robert: can you offer some thoughts on germ milley's statements. the m titary appearing with the president in a photo op. >> he stayed up late that night and watched the criticism and he was really mortified by it. and did violate the and esper was a west point graduate. milley is a respected joint chiefs chair b he came in last fall to reace germ dunford.

butt milley has gr reputation. he thought that thisas really remarkabletement for him and did show an independence from this president that is remarkable and people did not stand up to him. there was considerable anger from the president and h did not in an interview, he did not think that photo opportunity in front of the church was as bad as milley had said b did not strike out on twier. he could not fire a defense secretary after he stepped back from thede pre and couldn't do anything.

but this is a real moment not there was ag list others including jim mat toys who have not spoke out about this president. there e so many others who spoke out, robbletrobt wes, i know some final thoughts. wesley: one thing i wanted to add to the politics and the politic reporters. ti scott and the role he has to play and the role he does play in the republican pty and the way he has tried t handle these positions and he is doing a series of speeches at howard and he has been questioned whether he belongs there. after charlottesville, he

confronted president trump. he is the only black senator in the g.o.p. and will be interesting to see what happens in the role helays moving forward. our reportes. you vermuch to wesley, andrea, ashley and jake and thank you foroining us, we will take you as close to the news as we can. we'll discuss the voting fiasco in georgia. find it on our social media. i'm robert costa. good night from washington.

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