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call about a man being asleep in ha is car in ive-thru lane turned violent. a warning to viewers that the veo is graphic. >> put your mouth on the mouthpiece and blow as hard as you can. >> sreenivasan: after administering which read .108, just over the legal limit of .08, atlanta police officers garret rolfe and devin brosnan attempt to arrest ooks. >> i think you've had too much >> sreenivasan: caught on the dash cam of the police car, brooks struggles with the officers, who both have their tasers drawn. 's then seen grabbing a taser from one of the officers and fleeing. in surveillance video from the resantaurbrookss seen running, then turning briefly with the taser in his hand--g possibly fir in the direction of the officer while running. rolf the officer behind him, then quickly draws his gun and fires three shots at brooks, who is still running away 27-year-old rayshard brooks died later friday night after being taken to an atlanta hospital.

atlanta police announced late saturday night that the officer who shot brooks has been fired, and the other officer has been placed on administrative leave. the georgia bureau of investigation is conducting an independent investigation into the shooting. at a press nference yesterday afternoon, atlanta mayor keisha lance bottoms said she did not believe the shooting was justified and that atlanta police chief erika shields was no longer in charge of the department. >> chief shields has agreed to immediately step aside as police chief so that the city may me forward with urgency in buildi the trust so urgently needed throughout our communities. >> sreenivasan: today, protesters gathered at the wendy's where the shooting took place. e duringet on f protests last night. for more i'm joined by leah fleming a host and correspondent with georgia public broadcaing. >> sreenivasan: leah, are you surprised with the rn of events in the last 24 hours? >> yes, i am surprised at what has h

after several days and nights of relatelpeaceful protests with zero, zero arrests, things g had been goetty well. you know, the protests have certa iinly continuthe wake of the george floyd killing, but they eywere peaceful and ere productive. and there were conversations of turning those protests more toward other actions, working with the city to begin to really address the systemic problem of police african-americans and the systemic problem of racism in general. but things took a very ugly turt ight. and this is, of course, in result te o lling of rayshard, rayshard brooks. and suddenly things took a turn in the city. that part of the city went up in flames, literally. the wendy's outside where he was killed, that wendy's was set on

fire. there were several other smaller fires that were set in the area. the fire department couldn't get close to even beginning to put out those fires for over an hour because protesters blocked couldn't do that. so they protesters also made their wayup n embankment onto i-75, which is a major thoroughfare interstate in that cuts through the city of atlanta so traffic was held up for miles. so, things i would describe what we saw last night as rage. anemthat rage just ged in the wake yof this killing another black man at the hands of police. >> sreenivasan: what do you think of the resignation of the police chief? >> so, erikahields is the, was the police chief, and she served for over three-and-a-half years in that role. she actually was very popularg,

amhe had a great working relationship with, with mayor, atlanta mayor keisha lance botts. she has a grt working in the police force.r colleagues she also worked well within in the community, the communities that she served. she was known to be tough on crime. her first year in the role of police chief serving in 2017 that entire year she brought down major crimes by 8%, according to f.b.i. statistics. she also brought down murders by 29%. but she was also known to be compassionate and she was known to be listener in the community that she would, you knowover the past few weeks during the protests surrounding the death of george floyd, she was actually seth out there at protests talking to demonstrators and more imptantly, listening to demonstrators. so it was somewhat of a surprise mr. brooks on a friday night, by

satheurday morning,.a.a.c.p. of georgia was calling for her to immediately step down. and then by 4:00 in the afternoon, she offered her resignation to the mayor. >> sreenivasan: you were in a sition where you were part of the conversation of the city in the wake of george floyd. what are some of the hopeful things that you have heard and seen about people coming to some agreements? and what is the eventsf thela 24, 36 hours do to that? positive is the fact that there have been soany people of all races and backgrounds, socioeconomic backgrounds that have come out to protest and they are not going anywhere. the protests have continued religiously. day afteday in this city and peopm le sre unified than

ever as a city to address this problem. and that is a powerful thing to say that that didn't just end after the arrest of the officers in minneapolis. so, that has been wonderful to see. this moment, i think is going to cause more growth, ultimately more growth, but it hurt, it hurt the community, you saw that when you saw that rage come out last night in the protests. thimorning, looking at the scene around wendy's where mr. brooks died, where there will be the scene of mo protests to you saw people come out. there are people out there that are gking pictures and walkin around talking. there is a sense of just sadness around that scene today. so, to say peoplare sick and tired of being sick and tired is really an understatement there was just a sorrow that is going through that community right now. the people that were out there

on this beautiful sunday morning, a very peaceful one, but .just s and so, i think we have a long any to go in a in terms of beginning to build trust with the police. >> sreenivasan: leah fleming from georgia public broadcasting. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank sou so much. reenivasan: joining me now is the president and c.e.o. of the national urban league and former mayor of new orleans marc morial. marc, we're just a couple of weeks after george floyd, after atlanta saw the protests. the response. and here we are, another use of deadly force video that showsp what goes through your mind, you a lot of pain, a lot hurt. a lot of, how can this happen? is my immediatecoesponse, but d to that, it underscores why we need a reimagination, a restructuring and a ne accountality system for

american policing. american policing is, for thest art, broken. people can pick the word they want, but, uh, we need changesat he national level, and we need new initiativein new ways of doing business at the local level. this is not we'rene sweeping federal bill will fix this problem. but a sweeping federal bill is sential to address many of the accountability challenges, and that's why the justice and policing act is something we strongly support introduced this past week in the congress. and i'm not, i don't have 1/2 tight for a watered down version i don't have an appetr ah, symbolic bill. i thi we've got to hear the pain, the cries on the determination of the american people from all walks of all races and backgrounds who are on the streets saying black lives matter.

>> sreenivasan: this is certainly not in the same veinas eorge floyd. there are different circumstances which are gonna lead a lot of people to say, h, you know what? i saw the wendy's parking lot silurnce footage, and this gentleman turned around and he pointeder. this is different. the police officer felt that their life was thatened, that they should have been able to proct themselves. >> you have police officers are asrained and talk that the is a non-lethal weapon. affnd theers had searched uh, the gentleman at when he wthhen he got out ocar to determine because they asked him, are you armed? an hd they determined thwas not armed. so, for him to turn around and shoot a taser at the officer did not constitute a threat to the officer's life or a threat to anrsother offiife. perhaps the officer was amped up because this man had taken the

taser away from him and began to flee. so, yeah, officers make split second decisinns, but at no stance was anyone's life threatened and forces only, only, i think necessary if the officers life is truly threatened or number two, if the life of the citizen of someone else is threatened, what could >> sreenivasan: what could they ve done differently? >> we are going to talk about deescalation. then we have to rethink. and this is what's important, w handle various types. incidents whether its with homelessness, whether it's thpeople ostreet who may have mental issues if those are appropriate things for the d police to resp. police have been asked to do things far beyond the traditional world of public safety in policing and the re imagination movement on re imagination. restructuring movement, i think, rightfully has to think about some of these

classes of offenses differently. some of them are not truly criminal offenses, and so we got have done that and he could not use this gun. look, how far was that gentleman going to run? >> sreenivasan: we've also seen in the last couple of weeks closing of the ranks by different police agencies. in buffalo, for example, you had all the memberhe emergency response team resigned from that unit, but not om the police department, in solidarity with the two individuals who were reprimanded for pushing down an old man in florida. you had another case recently of members to resigning from the swat team becae they feel ir actions are now being politiciz and they don't feel like they can do their jobs. as with the force that might be necessary if myself included. if we're gonna have these conversations looking over thei sulr on sunday morning, it

>> it is the right of the public and the people to look over the shoulders of public officia in public servants. it is. no one should be immune from that. not e police officer, not the firefighter, not the tax collector, not the director of building permits. i don't think we should offer the police office of sort of exalted position in american life where they have super duper protections, super installations and that's been part of the culture. those officers, if they do not have confidence, should not have resigned from the swat team. or resigned from the unit. they should resign from the force. if officercan't take this trip, if they can't move in the direction that i believe american policing is gonna move, then i think they should resign and find something else to go. do we've got to think about the hiring process? we got to think about the training process, and we got to think about the scope in the c pharge of, ah, policilic safety. and i think to what's implicit

in this and, and i started to support the investments we need to make in youth and so sal services ools. ary response to eingle problem can't be let's put more prholice in the neighd. i believe you have to have smart police and progressive policing community policing strategy arfeound public , but includes so many oer things. and that's the debate, i ink, in the discussion that we need to haven the united states today. >> sreenivasan: one of the centotral tenete is regardless of how much money you implicit biastraining,aining, deescalation, training and forth, how do you switch a culture that values, and sometimes rightfully, loyalty? that they say, "hey, i need to know that you have my back, that if weo into a dangerous situation, i can count on you." andcr that ends uting a

scenario where good police are standing by when something bad happens because they feel like "if i turn on my brother or t sister noy might not be there for me when i really need them." there's a place where you have to draw the line. and the line involves not lying, not covering up, not looking the other way when you know a partner of yours or a coworketh has done sog that's obviously wrong. corthruption mean wrongdoing is unchecked, that wrongdoing becomes the culture. so people should understand that every single institution.wn we have to rethink and whave reform and we have to restructure. and look, i'm confident that we can get something that protects the public safety, uh, respects citizens and creates confidence,

but these reforms are not gonna be able operate around the edges iecn most department,se it's central to what we need in american communities today. acend look, i think that po have been asked to do too many things. well,e need to talk to communities and say what type of situations ould be handled by maybe another unit or another department or another instrument or instrumentality of government? and i think those are the kind of conversations that cavommunitiesto have in a re-imagination. look, i don't think people shldnderestimate the power of this movement that we see manifested in the streets has touched the boardrooms of america. it's touched the legislative bodies of america, and yet it's probably a segment of the american population is kicking, screaming and doesn't support it. bus t my senseat this is a movement unlike any i've seen in racism, to restructure thedo society. it's not a black movement, it's

not a white movement, it's not a latino movement, it's not an asian movent, it's not a-- it's not a movement of young versuold. it's being propelled by the young, but it is a movement against racism and a movement against division and intolerance in this country, and so we have a chance in the short run. i want to see congress past the justicand policing neck, i testified before the house judiciary committ. it'f s the kindform measure congress should pass. it'sr not gonna fix all the things we discussed, but congress has to put its stamp. it's stamped on this issue by saying take a giant leap forward when it comes to him in american policing in terms of creating accountabilities responsibilities and systems that will assist local communities and doing the thing to do. >> sreenivasan: marc moria the joining us.e thanks so much for >> thanks for having me. >> sreenivasan: for more on the situation in atlanta and the

latest on protests around the , untrysit pbs.org/newshour. >> sreenivasan: reaction to the police killing of rayshard brooks was immediate, with g liticians tak the sunday talk shows to weigh in ahead of debate ioon proposed legisl this week that is focused on reforming and retraining polices >> t did not call for lethal force and don't know what's in the culture that would make this guy do that. ane,it's got to be the cult it's got to be the system. >> one ongf the chal that we have in a split second decisions is the need for more training. that's why the deescalation aspect of my bill and the house bill is so critically important, so that we don't revert back to basic fear plus adrenaline leads speak.the genetic code, so to that's a hard balance to-- to achieve. so, in order for us to provide tunities to deescalate these situations and trduce the use of force, we have to have effectivning. >> we need to look at

appropriatreforms and this is probably a good time to shine the spotlight onnet and get it >> we need reformation of how police officers do their job,l aw enforcement does its job,but i also know that we have to have a transformation o how w te vi role of law enforcement, how we view the consruct of public safety, and how we invest, not only in the work that we need them to do to protect us, but the work we need to protect and build our communities. >> sreenivasan: the demands for racial justice and police reform are continuing every day acrossn the y more than three weeks after george floyd was killed on memorial day in minneapolis. in nashville, tennessee, protesters called for change last night. >> it's about george floyd, police brutality, wanting to see changes in the police scene here in nashvil. >> sreenivasan: in south carolina, members of the clemson university ftball team led a rch and held an 8 minute and

46 second mome of silence-- the length of time that floyd was held down before he died. and in los angeles today, black coy organized an "allt.q. black lives matter solidarity march" in honor of tony mcdade, a black transgr man who was shot and killed by a tallhassee poce officer last month. the u.s. secret service reversed an earlier statement that it did not use any chemical sprays to remove peaceful protesters in a public square across from the white house earlier this month. in a tet yesterday the secret service acknowledged an agency employee used pepper spray on said was "an assault individual" in advance of ump's walk through lafayette square to a nearby church for photos. >> sreenivasan: finally tonight, a firsthanaccount from isaac bryan, a civil rights activist and director of public policy at u.c.l.a's bunche center on what

it means for him to be part of this pivotal moment in htory. it's part of kcet's series "i was there." >> my names isaac bryan, i'm the director of public policy at the ralph j. bunche center for african american studies at u.c.l.a. i'm also the director of the l.ack policy project at u. >> black lives matter! w's lives matter? >> black lives matter! >> black lives that matter where? >> black lives that matter here! >> l blaes that matter where? >> may become one of the momentous years of an entire generation. the protests right outside of losel a mayor eric garcetti's house was not publicized. we know that law enforcement has been brutal many organizes in the city. i have bn brutalized by law tenforcement during the of protest. and so, the idea marching on the may's house and peaceful protests, we were, quite frankly, scared of what could be lethal rercussions.

it was one of the most beautiful and powerl things i've ever been a part of. it was well organized. .e spent time organizing thousands of people were in the streets. we chanted, we sang, we did the electric slide. i want to give a special shout out to common for coming out. we were met by law enforcement. clearly, a message of, of standing off andtanding back is starting to resonate with the l.a.p. this moment right now is the culmination of personal and pr oofessional experiencmy life coming together. my origin begins in dallas, texas, in the early '90s. i'm the product of a violent attack on a teenage mother. i lived in pover that ultimately forced me to come in to early contact with child welfare system. and when i was in middle school, i was suspended seven or eight times. i was shed out of school despite being in the gifted and talented program. i didn't graduate middle school.

in fact, i struggled so hard that i almost didn't make it to college. i accepted the offer at u.c.l.a. and i got my masters in public poly. i graduated top of my class out here. and i worked for yor eric garcetti in the office of reentry for a couple of years. ve been out in the streets. i've been in the halls of power negotiating change. and i've been on the front lines of organizing. as sobemeonwho has moveeen different spaces, i can tell you right now is the space for organizing. it is the space for presting. it ithe space for exclaiming just how upset we are. we saw a man murdered on cera, for the umpteenth time, and it's not training that's gonna fix at. we need our leaders to be inspiring, to be bold and to push for actions that might seem uncomfortable, but are very, very necessa. any d that is the end ofnt.

>> sreenivasan: join us tomorrow evening for a "newshour weekend" special on race and policing: "america in black in blue 2020" at 9:00 p.m. eastern and at pbs on-line. that's all for this editioof" pbs newshour weekend." for the latest news updates visit pbs.org/newshour. i' hari sreenivasan. thanks for watching. stay safe. have a good night. captioning sponsored by wnet captioned by media access group atgbh access.wgbh.org >>ma pbs newsur weekend i possible by: bernard and irene schwartz. sue and edgar wachenheim iii. the cheryl and philip milstein

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