captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org robert: as the nation marks juneteenth, president trump faces challenges. >> i don't think he is fit for office. i don't think he has thece compet he is doing it for the money. >> it's the washington swamps. robert: the president and his es al diss miss the explosive claims and the president remains defiant with a rurnt to the caaign trail over the choice of tulsa. and as protests persists, ongress is at a cross roads on race and police reform. >> there is a transition taking place in the country and what we'll do with this legislation

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committed to bridging cultural differences in our communities. the public corporation for ro publiccasting and from viewers like you. thank you. once again from washington moderator, robert costa. robert: weht begin ton by recognizing juneteenth, the celebration of he manspation of enslaved black americans. they were freed after two years. all recognition of this important day meduring a the oning on race following killing of george floyd. and nationwide rallies and protests continued on friday and history and race remain dominans

fon our politics. president trump will return to the campaign trail on saturday with a rallin tulsa, oklahoma that was ppped for tonight but rescheduled aer a fierce outcry about holding it on junete th. the choice of tulsa alarms the president's critics. arly a century ago, white mobs launched a bloody attack against black americans in black wall street. and reotestors pointo tulsa, authorities are concerned of ad pike en he takes the stage tomorrow it will be th end of a long week as the campaign season enters the new chapter and new memoir by john bolton to the last decisions by the supreme court to intense

debate still gng on capitol reform. ut police and applies yamiche alcindor, correspondent for pbs "wshour," geoff bennett, nbc news and sue and page from u.s.a. today. and josh dawsey from "washington post." the president took on the protestors and the low lifes of what president trump making that statement on juneteent yamiche: the entire nation is thinking abo the flawsn america, the idea that america just never quite got right that when trum tweeting out and .

threatening protestors and he positioning himselfand will come to oklahoma and will be intensified by his. ralli es the white house, white house secretary said didn't mean all protestors. he said anywi protesto be treated the same way, the president is seen as saying i will treat them harshly. the pre jokes about not treating people ine pol custody not nicely and y don't need to protect their heads i right way. the president says he is an ally uses rhetoric that most people k are on the opposite side of protestors. he has positioned himself as a law and order president.

susan: the thing about tulsa an intersection that america is facing, the coronavirus crisis and the debatever racial justice and in both of these re crisis, thedent is on the this hooms as a very important moment especially if there are crackdowns onte pors. robert: u.s.a. todayas done a lot of polling where the country is on rac what have you learned from the data? susan: one of the striking things we found in our latest polls is that black lives matter hamore credibility with americans to tell the truth th president trump when it comes to patters of racial justice and at s something we polled six months ago, that wouldot have been the case. there is a real sft in

american public opinion. robert: geoff, you look at thep ident's decision to go, you reported that his own health advisers were telling him not to go, what have yo learned? geoff: dr. fauci and dr. birx advised against him of holding a rally in tulsa that will bring together 19,000 people in a con find space for aboo hours. but the president is intent on ving this rally and giving his supporters the appearance that he in control. the coronavirus is in retreat and that everything in this country is back mato n even though we know in oklahoma d other states, conavirus is hitting record highs and there are millions of peoplet work. you have public health first who are seriously concerned that this rally could be a super

spader. this isn't a one off but one of many hug trump rallies to come. robert: talkingabout the political strategy of the following your reporting and you personal the motivation in some respects for president trump ksthe desire to get out in front of his core supporters, tell me about that. josh: he has done 600 rallies and talk to his advisers, he ts energy and enthusiasm and feels like he connects with his supportersnd boosts his poll numbers and he has been cooped up in the white house for more than 100 days and frustrated in the and sees his critics gathering in large crowds and ready to hit theoad and met with advisers and looking at his numbers and a lot of these swing

states are far below joe biden and ready to hit the campaign trail and we have 137 days until the election. and if you ta to people around the president, they said he has to get out and do these rallies and find his supporters. this time, as you k oklahoma is not really a swing state but him to have a national event and gehis message out, so much of the last four months have been messages that othe is seen for him politically and trying to be ck on the offensive. robert: one person who won't be in that crowd is former ambaador john bolton and let's get what matters in new bock. bolton alleges in the "room where it happens" and approved

imprisonning muslim minorities and this what he said. >> i don't think he has the mpetence to carry out t job. there isn't any guiding principle that i was able to discern other than what is good for his re-election. robert: the democrats have already impeached donald trump. what is their next move. yamiche: he is offering up more already impeached president trump and can't do it a second time. this is 50page bombshell. he said mpthat president t doesn't understand global affairs and saying he s intentionally using the presidency to offerfavors from international leaders including author tartarian leaders and

some regards dictators.he bu did not want to testify and he says if subpoenaed, he might have shown up for the impeachment inquiries but government officials have gone up to the hill and didt have to be subpoenaed. a bolt saying he is either a liar or spreading classified information and democrats are saying he didn't want to help pprosecute thissident. robert: can the white house stop the publition of this bo on tuesday? geoff: a judge used the phrase the horse is already out of the barn sm the book has been distributed. some 200,000 copies domestically and another 1,00 abroad. when elements of the book hit the press earlier week,t was viewed through a partisan.

republicans aresaying he is being a sensationalist and democrats are saying he was unpatriotic when he chose not to testify. which strikes me as particularly damning about the allegations. if you look at t them total of what these four-star generals have said to include jim mattisy they areg the same thing. in their view, president ump is ethicically unfit and unprepared for the job a that is damming and nothing that the white house can say to undo that. robert: this is one of many tell -all books and susan i will be interviewing john bolton on tuesday. i know you have interviewed john bolton for u.s.a. today.

but tell me about the significance of this book coming out. i know we have seen these books before from former firms, but why does bolton matter, if at all? susan: there is a cannotage industry. this one is different. highest ranking official to be writing a book abou the president. someone in the room not relying on sources and a guy who takes notes, this has been characteristic of john bolton at the u.n. ans,other j takes a yellow legal pad and takes copious notes ands othay that provided. he has republican credentials and harder for the psident and his allies to dismiss the book as sawyer grapes. robert: josh, you were hustling

and making sure you got a copy of the book before anybody else and you focused othe china part of the book. what's the power of what bolton is sayingon china, that the president is trying to get himself in with president xi. could that be a campaign issue on? vice president biden to j >> you see vice president de s campaign jumping on that.bo on says in meetings, that the president says, i want you to buy more agricultural products in a plea to help him win re-election. that has been disputed but lton was around for those meetgs and what the biden campaign is likely to say, bois resident has been attacking biden being too weak

on china. when confronted, he said m ok with the concentration camps and want you to win re-election and tells the chinese eresident is a clamoring for me to rbrve more than two terms and more of the disg scenesif you believe john bolton and president trump's relationship with the chinese. robert: yamiche what do you me yamiche: based on the sources, has said she doesn't want to be biden's v.p. the idea is that amy wasn't in the running at this point and she was really wanting to make a statement tt ma made her look gracious and very interestedn the diversity.

it makes as though amy was trying to find a way, i know i'm outunf theng and here's my answer and this is who should fill this role. joe biden is going to have to answer is question especially democratic party goes to worican-americanand african-american who are the most loyal part of the democratic base and says give me your vote and don't look like they are looking like the people they are asking for. he has to answer. robert: let's stick with thisth e. the choice for running mate will say a lot of where vice president biden's head is at. on catol hill, congress is debating policem ref and consider republicans and democrats cut through the road

block. there are differences.mo the house ats bill and the use of chokehos by police ands g.o.p. would use federal funds to insenttivize and discourage the use of choke holdsnd require departments to report the use of deadly force. s you o overlapping ideas there but a different discussion i implementation. geoff, is president trump going to lean in ring a campaign season to suppo senator ott's bill and try to get legislation forward?il geoff: president trump do it? likely not. will the white house? are i mean kushner and mark meadows. civil rights advocates who have consulted with republicans and

democrats have been trying to distill their differences, the democratic approach -- approach is on accountabityand republican approach is on de-escalation. will democrats stopt. that is a huge political question, because democrats don'twant to be seen as obstructing which looks like a ofd-faith effort on the part republicans to do something of this issue of excessive and some cases of lethal use of force. we could have an answer to that question when the senate takes up this issue. robert: ho is presidenp t tr going to move forward. he has done the executiveer o what now? josh: the president said he would support some sort of police reform. you notice when he had the execute orr signing last

week, he was surrounded by police officers. and there is a poweenul consti that want tougher law and order who don't want some of these things among his base and supporters. whether or not as geoff sd of jar odd and mark meadows, it's going be hard to know but we will see what happens at the rally and how the president comes out and whether he seems toe tryingto do something different or if he goes back to his urble rhetorical tactics. robert: susan, what is your read? is this iojuxtaposng or do you see something in the works here? susan: i have a question in my mind. this is this like gun control, ke sandy hook, there was impet tuesday to hav gun control.

gridlock is the safe bet. taybe there is something else going on here. you don't have to look polls to know there is impet tuesday in disicts on police reform, you have to look what politicians are going on. the decision by senator mcconnellto schedule tim scott's bill is a real shift on his part. it is a sign that republicans are feeling the heat. think it is possible, not likely, but maybe possible, there is actually bipartisan in an ection year. robert: yamiche you spoke with the family members that have been affected by police do they feel invol enough in these discussions? yamiche: the families that i spoke to with president trump said the president while he seemed sympathetic to their story which includ people

being killed by police on the listened to those stories but they feel the president's executive order didn't go. and used platud to the brother of everett palmer w died in a pennsylvania jail. the president said that person must have been a great person. he was a review. those families came away the president hasindwords but we are past kind words. at these families and not taking into consideration their ideas and qualified immunity which i a legal doctrine which shields officials from being sued because of their alleged conduct, the president and white hous said this is a nonstarter. these families pushed him saying k into these issues and theresident didn't

budge and didn't want tbe photographed with president trump and didn't want to be used as props because they think the president wouled vm cla victory. the families are sensitive to the fact that thees ent might be interested in doing something but don't feel like he is doing something. robert: josh, jump in. josh: that is the ole cun undrum andan health care the white house is going to d something at the end of the day. and i think yamiche'soint is correct, no one knows how muchs ousness the white house is going to put behind this. the current environment p continues y for weeks and months on end andmay be forced to actually doing something more substantive that some ofhe advocates and families want. but as the other panests have

said, time will tell whetheran hing substantive happens here and whether the president is serious about doing something that bridges democrats and republicans. as you know, bob and we reported, republicans take the president's lead and don't want ross him particularly in an election year. senators and house members look to his a tweets public prockclamations andcuto us and whether he gives something meaningful. robert:t geoff, j to finish, this is juneteenth, you reported on the significance ofctla and blackall street, just tell me more about that as we finish this program tonight. geoff: i is interesting. we are livinghrgh a racial

awakening and transformational change. tand question is will this be pressure and passion can be turned into policy. d to your question about what happened in tulsa, 99 years ago this month, you had what was known as black wl street. it was thiseacon of black life in tulsa known as the greenwood district had blacbank, black schools and savings and loan and angry white mobs attacked the city and killed 300 aican-americans and left tens of thousands homeless. but theory of black wall street doesn't end there. becae the folks in the greenwood district, they rebuilt it and that town. that is instructtive andgave m hope and the country can learn

what happened 100 years ago. robert: i like that, hope. good place to leave it. that is our program and conversation. and thank you very much to our reporters. thank you l for joining us. we will keep taking you close to the news as we can. our conversation will continue on "washington week" are extra. i'm robert costa. good night from washington. >> corporate funding for "washington week" is provided by

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