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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening.m i'dy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, mixed rulings-- in a blow to president htum supreme court upholds prosecutors' rig to see his tax returns and financial accords, while rejecting congress's push foss to many of the same documents. then, surging infections offials scramble to flatten new curves as the debate on when to re-open schools heats up. plus, defying the odds-- a maryland nursing home with zero covid-19 infections, and the early steps that kept residents alive. >> when i heard the president say we only had 15 cases and he thought that by the end of the t would be zero, i knew that it was time that we take
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and the nation struggles to stop covid-19 as surging infections show no one is beyond its reh. first, today's supreme court decisions. john yang begins our coverage. >> reporter: the supreme court flatly rejected president trump's claim that he is completely imme from a state criminal investigation as long as he is in office. chief justice john roberts wrote the decision, saying, "no citizen, not even the psident, is categorically above the pwhen called upon in ariminalce proceeding." the 7-2 majority included justices neil gorsuch and brett kavanaugh, the court's two trump appointees. roberts also said, "a president mahiy avaielf of the same protections available to every other citizen" to try to block a subpoena. so the case was returned to the lower courtto give president trump an opportunity to make those arguments-- meaning the question may not be finally settled for sometime.
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the dissenters-- justices clarence thomas and samuel alito-- said a sitng presidentci deserves s consideration. prito wrote, "it is unrealistic to think that thpect of possible criminal prosecution will not interfere with the performance of the duties the office." today's ruling was a milestone: the first time justices said whether a president must comply with a state criminal investigation. it was a stinging rebuke for a prentsiho has a sweeping view of his powers. >> h wint. >> reporter: marcia coyle is chief washington correspondent fourr "the national law l." and is there a message to a president who says he has his article two powers, allow him to dohatever he wants? >> i think that opinion is a clear message to a sitting president that your article two powers are not unlimited, very clear message.
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this was, you know, across ideological opinion, a very strong precedent for the future. >> reporter: a manhattan grand jury convened by district attorney cyrus vance jr. albpoenaed records-- including the president's sly guarded tax returns-- dating back to 2011. andrea bernstein co-hosts wnyc radio and propublica's podcast" ."trump, " >> the president consistently files difffoent sets of rmation on his tax documents and on other documents, for ex dample, bank louments-- when you want your value to look high, the nrsumon't necessarily match tax documents when you want the numbers to look low so you pay less taxes. so that is a pattern that the district attorney could possibly turn up as a byproduct of this investigation. >> reporter: in a separate case, te same 7-2 lineup reject president's arguments about broader suoenas issued by several house committees-- but it also turned away the congressional claim to virtualle
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unlisubpoena power. again, roberts wrote the majority opinion." far from accounting for separation of powers concerns, the house's approach aravates them." >> he said the executive branch and the legislative branch work these things out together. h but, apparentl said, that process has broken down. roberts said, what we nee here is a balanced approach, and it has take into consideration that these are two independent branches of our government. >> reporter: this matter, too,nt was ack to the lower courts with instructions to determine whether the house serv was sent back to the lower courts with instructions to determine whether the house subpoenas serve a leive purpose and are not too broad. in his dissent, thomas said"c" ress has no power to issue a legislative subpoena for private, nonofficial documents-- whether they belong to the president or not. " house speaker nancy pelosi vowed
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to keep seeking the material. >> we will continue to press our case in lower courts. >> reporter: former trump attorney michael cohen plays a keyh role in botsubpoenas. his claim that he was the middn mar hush money payments to two women who say they had sexual relationships with mr. trump-- which the president deni-- is part of the new yok grand jury investigation. >> he we've seen them.ords. he turned them over when he testified before the house in 2019. the check signed by donald trump usfor $35,000, part of the money payment.th so we know thae documents exist. >> reporter: and his congressional testim triggered the house request. >> it was my experience that mr. trump inflated his total assets when it served his >> reporter: house committees want the records to look for possible financial wrongdoing in property deals and whether overseas loans me the president vulnerable to foreign influence.
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it's unlikely any of the documents would be made public until after the election. for thoe "pbs newur," i'm john yang. >> woodruff: now that the eupreme court has spoken, what consequences will >> woodruff: now that the supreme court has spoken, what consequences will these rulings have on the powers of the nt and those who seek to investigate him. we get two perspectives tonight: mary mccord is a former prosecutor who became the justice department's top national security official during the obamadministration. she's now at georgetown university. and jesse panuccio was the department's number three official, the acting associate attorney general in the trump administration until last year. he's now in private practice. we welcome you both to the program. i want to begin with the justice's rulg on the manhattan case. what do you make to have the justwe's reasoning here an much of a setback do you think this is for the president? >> well, this was an important decision because all nine justices, including the
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dissenters, agree that there was no absolute immunity that the president could assert that uld prevent him from having to respond to acriminal subpoena, and the justices were very -- youw, k again -- unanimous in this, and although some difred in their rationale, it's important because, historically, or 200 years, as the chief justice pointed out, no person has been above the law, and that includes the president. so this was a real victory for the new york attorney cy vance, it was a rekeal reo the overreach, the assertion of abswholute immunityh the president had gone farther than the solicitor general had gone in that case. >> woodruff: jesse panuccio, was it a miscalculation for thet president'sneys to make the argument they did to try to argue that the presidentas immune? >> well, judy, good evening, thanksi or having me. n't think it was a
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miscalculation. if you look a what the supreme court did today, it gave the president a loson absolute immunity but, politically, he probably got ain. these cases will continue to be litigated. they will be litigated well past the election, so theseub enas, if they are ever enforced, will be enforced afttr at time. and then, legally, in both the new york case and the congressional case, the supreme court gave the president a lot work with in terms of making arguments going forward, concentratingon the new york case, the supreme court was very clear in recognizing that local prosecutors can be motivated improperly by politics or political retaliation or bad faith, and the court made very clear that the federal courts must be open to the president to protect him from that kind of local prosecutorial misconduct. >> woodruff: well, the president doesn't seem to think it a win. as you heard, he's calling it ah political wihunt and a hoax.
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but, mary mccord, back to you.se on what recohe president now has when it comes to his ability to stop what the manhattan d.a. is trying to go afte he can rest now, as i argumentd it, on an i'm just an ordinary citizen, but i still think whatou're doing has no foundation, can he not? >> so, in this case, t president had, again, put all his eggs in one basket when he tobrought this case to tr stop thes he argued he was absolutely immune. he didn't make any other arguments like an ordinary serson might make like thi subpoena is too burdensome, brought in bad faith or harassment, those types arguments, this subpoena causes constitutional problems. so what the supreme court says, we're not vacating the lower opinionright, we're affirming theou lower opinion which
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denied absolute immunity, whicho is the circuit opinion, but even the second circuit said the case shou go back to the district court in case the president has any oth arguments to make such as burden, harassment, abuse, that he could make ose like an ordinary citizen. so the supreme court was just affirming what the second circuit had already said which is no absolute immunity, but yoo can makeer arguments you might want to make, ipresident. think it's important to recognize that, even in doing that, the supreme court did say, in considering the arguments that would be made, the lower khz should consider the fact that this is the president, right. not necessarily special treatment will you in analyzing the arguments, the person making the i arguments this case, the president -- just like any other eperson would m arguments unique to him. in this case, he had made no guments at all unique this subpoena by cy vance in this case about how it might burden
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him, how it might have been abusive or harassing, and he'ss saying the thi he's saying but he'll have to make arguments that will convince a crt that this is overreerchtion and there's nothing about the supreme court's decision that bpggests that the supreme court thought these nas were overreach or abusive or harassing. >> woodruff: but jesse panuccio, i hear you saying you think that is wt the president's attorneys are now likely to do. is that right? >> well, i think that's right and, respectfully, i don't think it's true that there's nothing in the opinion that speaks to whether the court thought the subpoena by mr. vance wase reaching. at the very outset of the opinion, the supreme court calls the investigation opaquely described. itdi notes r between the lines, i thinkith some disapproval, that the subpoena simply was a word-for-rd copy of a congressional subpoena, and after it rejects claims of absolute immunity, it goes on
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very clearly to say the president is a special ounice r the constitution, that separation of powers does matter and there are special considerations when it comes to a president and local prosecutors such as the fact that a local prosecutor can be improperly politically motivated, and i read the opinion as say can begin to probe those motivations and, most interestingly, this is going back probably to the sdny. this is the same court that a few years ago said t state of new york could sake discovery into the motivations of cretary wilbur ross in the census case. if i wersi the pnt's lawyers i would say i want discovery into the motivations of cy vance, i want to know what his prosecutors did wito come up the subpoena, whether they had contact with any political actors, whether they are retaliating against m because of decisions i made in the state of new yorknd federal policies. i think that's all open now
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under the supreme court's special opinion. br woodruff: we'll wait and see. more dly, in terms of the office of the presidency going forward. >> nawaz: saw mary mccord some analysis today saying that the fact that the justic were even asked to say what they said today in a way weakens or takes something away from the pregasident's preve. how do you see that argument? >> are you speaking particularly of the send cas the case involving the house subpoenas?dr >> wf: i think both cases. >> yeah. so, you know, historically, you really saw this in the supreme coonurt's decin the deutsch bank case that historically these types of disputes bbretwen ches -- granted, the cy vance case is not a disputen betw branches -- but historically disputes between the branches have been resolved between the branches. theyaven't gone up to the courts and never to the supreme
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court. so i think you saw a level of disappointment from the supreme court that it really has to be dealing with this thing,ey notwithstanding reviewed the important issues pressed by the president andby his attorneys in the face of rulings against and below. it's also important, i think, to recognize that, in the secondth case mazar's case, even though that ends up a vacater of the opinion and a remand, there really wasn't a clear winner in the case because the supreme court said both parties' positions were too extreme and both parties, what they've asked for would -- runs into ers concernsf pow because you've got two political co-oak wall brches in conflict with each other. the president wanted to go too far, that would undercut congress' article 1 functions
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and thought congress went too r as well. >> woodruff: and just quickly, jesse panuccio, what i what aboo you see a cost to the office of ncthe presiin the fact that the court had to deal with this issue? >> well, there can be a cost because ulty you can get a ruling and that can constrain what you can do as the president going forward, but i think in both these opinions tt cour was at pains to leave many questions open for another day. in the congressiol opinion, the court notes, toward the end, that one days20 everyears is not enough to flesh out all the considerations that may matter to federal courts and the congress and the president going forward. so i think wha ultimately the claims of absolute immunity were rejected today,the court left open plenty of avenues for this president and future presidents
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to make arguments about presidential prerogative and, frankly, to future congresses, and i think the court was cognizant of the fact that you don't know what exact shfue re controversies will take place between congress and the president. you only know that since the founding of the country they've existed and will continue to exist, so i think the court left a lot of room for, i think, future maneuverability. >> woodruff: two very imrtant rulings. jesse panuccio, mary mccord, th k you bofor joining us to explore all of this. thank you. >> goodnight. stay well. thank you. f: >> woodrow, the latest on the summer surge of the coronavirus pandemic. the number of dead topped 550,000 worldwide today, including 133,000 in the united states. and, the numbers of ne infections showed no signs of abating. white house correspondent
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yamiche alcindor reportsr: >> reporteay by day, the new surge in covid-19 cases is growing.t much of the cory is now steadily reporting increased infections. and today, there were new single-day highs in alabama and montana, and other parts of the countr only two states-- vermont and new hampshire-- are seeing infections decline, according "" the new york times." governors are scrambling to try terflatten the new curve, their states reopened. >> we need to protect the vulnerable-- if you're in those vulnerable age groups, or ve co-morbidities, be very careful about types of close contact you have, avoid crowds at all costs because those are gonna be situations where you're going to be most at risk. >> reporter: today, the nation's top infectious diseases doctor advised states to "pause" lifting restrictions. doctor anthony fauci spoke on an online forum in washington. >> so, rather than think in terms of reverting back to a complete shutdown i would thinko we would neeet the states
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pausing in their opening process looking at what did not work well and try to miepgate that. >>ter: meanwhile, the head of the centers for disease control and prevention insisted hires agency is nosing its guidelines for schools to reopen. >> it's not a revision of the guidelines, it's just to provide additional information to help the schools be able to use the guidance that we put forward. >> reporter: robert redfield spoke a day ter president trump called the c.d.c. standards "impractical." yesterday, vice president pence said new guidelines would be coming out next week as a result of the president's criticism. at the capitol, debate also heated up over rpening schools. house speaker nancy pelosi warned agast putting children at risk. >> this administration seems to be turning its back on science and instead saying, "open up, take a risk, oh, by the way, open up the schools." overwhelmingly the teachers want
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to open up the schools, but it has to be safe for the children. >> reporter: but house minority leader kevin mccarthy argued that remote learning will hurt a generation of students. and he ued incentives for schools to resume. >> you can protect them from liability so schoolsill actually have a willingness and a desire to op and not a fear that they're gonna be sued. >> porter: the pandemic's economic damage keeps mounting, as well. the lodabor department said more than 1.3 million americans filed for unemployment benefits last week. the world's other hotspots are also struggling to make headway. india today reported 25,000 new cases in 24 hours. in hard-hit muai, doctors went or-to-door to test residents for the virus. and, the government of serbia droppe plans for a wee lockdown after two nights of violent protests over the restrictions. offnnicials also ba gatherings of more than ten people in
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belgrade. for the "pbs newshour," i'm yamiche alcindor. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, president trump's former personal lawyer, michael cohen, returned to federal prison. he'd been seen dining out in manhattan over the weekend, and prison officials say he rejected terms of his home confinement. cohen was released in may, amid the "cov-19" pandemic, after serving ten months for tax evasion, campaign finance fraud and lying to congress. his sentence runs through november 2021. the judge in the michael flynn case is now asking a full federal appeals court to consider the case. the former national security adviser pled guilty to lying to the f.b.i. later the justice department moveddr t the case, but the judge refused. st month, a panel of the appeals court ordered charges dismissed. the ousted u.s. attorney in
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manhattan was interviewed today by the u.s. house judiciary committee.ey geoferman had been leading probes of president trump'she associateshe was forced out. he told lawmakers that attorney general william barr offered him another position, to leave of his own accord. teterward, democratic comm chair jerry nadler was sharply critical. >> the attorney general repeatedly attempted tentice berman to step down voluntarily, even after berman made clear thatpt his leaving would dis certain sensitive cases. we don't know yet if the atrney general's conduct is criminal, but that kind of quid pro quo gets awfully close to bribery. >> woodruff: attorney general barr goes before the committee later this month. sheriff's investigats in southern california confirmed today that a black man, found hanging in a tree, committed suicide. they said robert fuller suffered from mental illness. e discovery of his body in palmdale last month sparked a
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protest. his family has said fuller would never have taken his own life. the trump administration today banned three senior chinese communist party members from entering the u.s. they are accused of subjecting uighurs and other minorities to forioced labor, mass dete and attacks on their muslim faith. one of the three officials is a member of tbu ruling "pol." in the presidential campaign: tomocratic nominee joe biden offered a swlsping plan to r u.s. manufacturing in the wake of the pandemic. he spoke in dunmore, pnnsylvania, and called f spending $700 billion on americanade goods and research and development. >> we need to strengthen our industrial base as long-term sources of middle class job cron. let's use make bold investments in american industry and innovation so the future is made in
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america, all in america. >> woodruff: on the republican side, vice president pence also campaigned across pennsylvania today. the wisconsin state supreme court today upheld laws that limit the power of the democratic attorney general. they were passed by a lame-duck republican-led legislature, afr the 2018 election. the measures also targeted the deatcratic governor elected same year.st on wall et, stocks mostly lost ground, on worries about the covid-19 surge. the dow jones industrial average lost 361 points to close at 25,706. the nasdaq added 55 points, but the s&p 500 slipped 17. and, for the first time ever, a female soldier has joined the green berets. the unfied woman graduated u
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today from t. army's grueling 53-week special forces qualification course at fort bragg, nth carolina. c still e on the "newshour," international students at u.s. universities on the administration's threat to deport them. one-on-one: white house trade adviser peter navarro on u.s.m.c.a. and the move toward economic recovery. plus a maryland nursing home with zero infections, and e >> this is the newshour monday, the department of homeland securitd all of the roughly 1 million international students who are currently enrolled in the u.s.
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must attend at least one in-person class this fall, or they will be denied visas to either enter or stay in cothe try. the news came as both colleges and students are struggling to make plansfothe fall semester in theiddle of a pandemic. we sta by hearing from some of the students reacting to the news. >> i'm elizabeth gimba, i'm from kenya and south sudan and i'med currently enrot skidmore college. >> ii' raul romero. from caracas, venezuela. i'm one of the first geneticists out of the cific islands. my entire world view of how we should be approaching science and medicine changed by the
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opportunities i was afforded by coming to the united states. >> my >> my research is based on, solely based on the library sources i have. and the california library system is one of the largest library systems in the u.s.-- in the world. and this is just a tremendous resource for researchers like me. >> you have hands-on experience of what you dream of in the s unittes. and now it's being taken away from me in many ways. so i don't know what to think about it. >> the new regulation, again, blindsided us completely, a the choices i'm faced with this either risk my life and health and go to class in person o risk being deported, even though i am legally here. >> we're basically having >> we're basically having to make the continuing our education and becoming deportable, or goingtr back to our cocertainly in many cases face a certain amount of risks. in venezuela it goes bthe
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nitarian crisis and the violence, there's also, you know, very poor internet innnection. blackouts are occudaily. there's no constant supply of water. >> i'm most concerned about my education because i don't think he optione luxury of of, for instance, taking a semester gap or deciding to go back home and take a break or anything of that sort. >> there's, like, this constant, you know, feeling that, like, io don't here sometimes and that, like, you know, even though i'm paying so much money and so much and i'm on a student loan. >> we're here temporarily and we're not even being allowed to stay here temporarily. >> i mean, it's, it's tiring, it's hectic, it's frustrating. it's really draining and there's not much we can always do from our side. >> this law makes me and a lot of international students feel that we are dested by the cotry, we're unwelcome here. what is the most devastating thi f me is that feeling of
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rejection.f: >> woodrarvard and m.i.t. quickly filed a lawsuit to blocs the new ruling it risked the health of students d facumay. one of thr institutions grappling with the change is the university of wn.consin, madi jeffrey brown spoke with its chancellor rebecca blank, a short time ago.>> eporter: rebecca blank, thank you for joining us. we heard from several students. i understand you have some 5,800 foreign sudents on cam there. what do you think is the impact on them? >> so this is an unwise and a policy. disruptive we have many students who are in the middle of programs, many o them doing research work in labs with faculty. having to tell them all to go home if they can't take in-person classes simply doesn't make any sense. now, we're trying to run a hybrid model of bh in-person and online classes this next
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semester, so i'm hoping many of them will be able to stay in madison.s but some stude can't get home. some students it's not safe for them to be in their home country. this arinfections are worse there an here in madison, you know, and some students if they stop out it's not good to get teback. >> rep the secretary at d.h.s. said if they're not a student or 100% oline they don't have a basis to be here. they should return home and come back when the school opens. what's wrong with that logic. there are a lot of reasons for a student to be here on campus or in the united states while they are a registered student at our campuses. as i say, some of them may well be working with faculty, doing lab work and research, even if they are taking classes online. some of them will be in situations where there are
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literally no flights back to some countries now. they can't get there. we had a number of students who stayed last spring when we went online, almost all international students, many stayed over the summer because they were asonably certain if they went home they wouldn't be able to get back to school here this fall. it's quite clear when schooling gets disrupted in this way that, once you stop out, you know, once it becomes hard, it's just that much tuharder fornts to get back in and finish their esgree, and we want all th students to get an education and to finish their degrees as fully and quickly as possible. >> we're talking about the impact on students. what about the impact on stools like yours? whe are you iplanning for the fall and how much does this -- how manof an impact would this have? >> so we are very businessly tryg to change our entire mode of operation so we can have students back on mpus and do so in a way that's safe f students as well as faculty and
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staff. if we're able to accomplish that, and we believe we're going to be able to, then our international students should be able to stay under this order. but, of course, it's possible infections get worse, various things happen and that we would have to go to an all-online program at som point in the fall and at that point all our foreign students wouldbe under threat of going home. obviously there are institutional financial effects on this, but that' not the primary issue. our students are part of our campus community, they're integrated into it in a number of ways. we them to be as safe and as healthy as possible and, in many cases for them, even if we're online, being in our dorms and staying here in madison and ying to get home to what are sometimes much more uncertain situations inheir home countries. >> reporter: but there are financial implications. a lot to have the students would be paying full tuition, you wouldn't be getting that. what would happen if this goes through and you lose these students
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>> well, you know, the effect on our tuition from our international students is about $200 million. that's not zero. s course, if we to a virtual and onlineuation, we will be having students dropping out whc are domestudents as well as international. but as i say, my mn concern about this policy is not the financial implications. we're ing to do everything we can to try to be open in the fall. my concern is its impact on the education of i should say the presence of foreign students at american universities has en incredibly important to this country. they go home, they becors business lea they become political leaders. their connections back to the united states from having been to our schoolsg and havpent time in the u.s. are just golden, in terms of creati long-term relationships between this country and other countries. >> several critics of this administration and this move have seen it as an attempt, a orcetical attempt to f colleges to reopen in the fall.
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do you see it that way? >> younow, i can't judge the tivations behind this regulation. as i said, i just think it's a very unwise regulation. it was issued with, as far as i know, no consultation with any of the universities or higher educatio organizations, and caught everybody by surprise which, of course, makes it all the more disruptive. s briefly, what is the next step for you? harvardeveral schools and m.i.t. among them, have sued, already. you have not joine that suit, i don't think, yet. what's the next step? clearlyyou kno we're trying to message to our students that we're doing everything we can to have online classes available to them and we're going to work with them to be able to stay here. we're looking at legal options, whether it makes snse to j or not as a state institution, we have certain constraints on iat. but iued a very strong statement of opposition to this
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particular regulation. we've talked to our delegation in the u.s. senate and congress and some have been very supportive of. this i hope we can get i.c.e. and the administration to really re-think what they're doing here. >> reporter: rebecca blank, cherancellor at univity of wisconsin at madison, thank you very much,. >> thk you. >> woodruff: president trump's new north american trade deal, the "united states-mexico-canada agreement," known as "u.s.m.c.a.," was celebrated at the whi house yesterday. along with it come questions about the trade deal and what it means for the american economy. peter navarro is president trump's trade adviser and he joeins us now from the wh house. peter navarro, welcome, again, to the "newshour". so president trump called the predeceor to this deal the worst trade deal eve
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in a sentence, how is this trade agreement better? >> nafta, which joe biden and a lot of other people voted for in 1992, was structured in a way, judy, so that american jobs were lured into mexico by mexico's cheap labor and lacks environmental controls, and mexico lost a lot of its supply chain to china at usmca does is turn that completely on its head.ru it's ured in a way to make north america theanufacturing powerhouse of the world, and the way it helps american workers -- and this is the most important part -- it has local content regulations which provide, for example, in automobiles, that a certain percentage of that has to be american-made and to ensure that the jobs don't go south, there's also strict wagen and enviroal restrictions on mexico. so this is a situation where, rarely, in a trdeal, mexico,
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canada, and the u.s. all befit. woodruff: so let me ask you about that because, right now, this deal does take effect as o yesterday, but it comes as all three countries are mired in recession because to have the pandemic -- because of the pandemic, and my understanding is many of the deal's requirements, like expanding worker rights, oning up the flow of agriculture, these things have not been fully met, even as it has been signed. so there's still work to do. >> oh, there's certainly work to do, but it's nonetheless very good news for our manufacturing industries in north america. also, it has things in it liefke refor dairy farmers and places like wisconsin where the canadians were putting exorbitant tariffs on. buthe bigger picture here, judy, is that we're in a situationheowe, in the 2000s, china cheated on it trade deals and we lost millions of american jobs. that we have now is a situation
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wheree chinese communist party lied about this virus, the pandemic came here, and now not only are americans dying in large numbers, we have 30 million americans unemployed, and we're facing significant structural head winds because of the chinese communist party. now, what i can tell you is that we are working overtime trying to make sure that we're bouncing back. so foo, the numbersk good, but it's also true, judy, at the we're going to face structuradal inds as we move in time, as industries likhoe itality, transportation and entertainment, all suffer from these pandemic effects f china, and what the mission of the president is to use his deep understanding of economics and business to make sure we navigate through those shoals. so in the next few weeks there will be a new phase four deal that's going to be negotiated on capitol ll and, in the meantime, we're doing everything we can to bring our
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manufacturing jobs back to u.s. soil, which is going to be the key to reemploying the service sector refugees that we lose in theeleaguered sectors. >> woodruff: so you're making a number of allegations here abou kthe chinese and iw a number of other countries have eooked at this virus as well, but they seem to doing a lot better than the united states in terms of keeping it under control. you're putting all the blame right now on china. >> yes. >> reporter: yet, the united states, as you know,s leading the world in the number of peoplete inf the number of people who have died, and there are fingers pointed at this president's leadership. >> sure, and -- >> woodruff: so, i mean -- let me -- >> woodruff:t what i want to ask you is if you look at th economy and you look at the president's leadership, i mean, you can't just point at china. >> well, i can just point in china in the following sense -- the reason why we have so many caises in chna has -- and china
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has less is this, not only did china spawn the virus in november, they hid it about two months. during that time, china restricted travel within china to contain the virus, but they sent thousands of chinese nationals on aircraft, ich many of them were infected, and spread the seed of that virsous. that's part of the problem we're facing now. here's the thing, judy, we're now in a situation after going through several months of economic lkdown where weave really hard choices to make, and these are the hardest choes a president ever has to make -- how fast do weopen up the economy. what we've lened in the first wave is a complete shutdon has tremendous economic advantage but kills people through schoolism, depression, more drug use, things like that. what we're tryingo do that is balance that as we open up and it's a work in progress. we had hoped that the virus would subside somewhat in the summertime with the heat and
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humidity. virtually every scientist thought that was going to happen. it hasn't. but we're managing that. the good thing here, judy, is that -- and i'm directly at the center of much of this -- we are building our strategic national stockpiles for personal prottive equipment and medicines. that's going very well. we're much more sophistw ated out managing the issue. but, you know, this is war. this is wartime president, this is the chinese virus, and i'm not going to sugar coat anything today. we've got a fightounhands. >> woodruff: well, and there are so many things to raise with you about ahat you've said, peter navarro, but, specifically, let me just move ickly ahead to what joe biden said today. he has now rolled o his on plan for improving the economy. he said, this president has created an economy that caters to wall street, and what he's doing, he said, i've got a plan that's going to bring back jobs that have been lost this year, i'm going to create at least
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5 million more jobs with sweeping investments in domestic technology, i'm going to reduce or dependence on foreign untries that supply critical goods, i'm going to implement trade and tax t policiest empower u.s. workers. in other words, he is saying this president has failed on alh e fronts. >> so joe biden was around for 44 years and basically helped oversee the offshoring of american jobs, turned his back on workers. in three and a half years, leading up toanuary 15th, this president was the greatest president -- jobs pridentin history and in terms of catering to wreerkts guess whathad the lowest unemployment rate ever in history for blks, hispanics, asians women, and everything looked great because of the president's policies. now, i tught it was -- you know, the saying imitation is the sincerest form of flat ri, when i looked at joe bid's planall he was doing was copying all the things that we have been doing as an
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administration with respect to buy amerin, on shoring jobs, increasing manufacturing. don't forget, judy, during the ama-biden years, they lost 200,000 manufacturing jobs net. during this psidency, we've added over half a million. so, remember, 44 years ojoe biden, nothing but offshoring american jobs. three and a half years the greatest jobs president in history. >> woodruff: if i could quickly quote, there's reporting today steve bannon who, of course, has been a close advisor to the president, said, when its comes to t buy american proposal from joe biden, that the trump administration was caught flat-footed. there's reporting that the tministration's been tryi put together its own proposal,"b american proposal," but it hasn't been able to come to an agreement. has thedministration, hashe white house been delayedn trying to come up with your own proposal on how to improve -- >> yeah, i personally watch the president sign five different buy erican orders. we've had a tremendous reduction
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in waivers, we'vehad a tremendous increase in the amount of government procurement th goes to buy american. we've had a great success with buy american. it is theredent's two simple rules. the next challenge we face, and e a verygoing to difficult one, but we are committed and engaged, which is to bring our medicinesnd our medical splice and equipment, production and supply chains ho, and it's a struggle, but we've seen, for example, we brought factories in arizona and rhode isla on n95 we stood up a factually in 17 days in kokomo, indiana, by general motes, producing 20 million swabs a month in guilford so we are the "buy american" proud toy, and i'm have been at the president's side when he signed the orders and i have been very active in
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terms of implementing them. we have work to do on the pharmaceutical and pply chains. >> woodruff: two other quick questions about china. there was a china trade deal that had been negotiated before the pandemic hit. it required china to buy more u.s. goods, but there wasn't ent as part of that. can you require that china do what it was suppose to do under that agreement? >> there are clear enforcementms mechann the phase one deal. to date, it's absolutely true that china has u with respect to its purchases, but we have been insured by the chinese that by the end of the year they will make good on those. but this is ronald reagan territory, trust but verify. let's see what hapns. let's remember what i told you at the beginning of this interew. during the 2000s, china cheated and stole our jobs. toay they're lying to us and killing americans with that virus.
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>> woodruff: and does president trump still consider president xi jinping a friend? >> you would have to ask the president that, but i can assure you there's nowhere on tin side of the perimeter o this white house that has a high level of trust in the chinese communist party at thi point, particularly with respect to their behavior on this chinese >> woodruff: peter navarro, thank you very much. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: of the nation's nearly 130,000 coronavirus avdeaths, more than 40,000 been in nursing homes. am nawaz brings us the sto of one facility that beat the odds. >> nawaz: i'm joined now by reverend derek dewitt. he's the director of the maryland baptist aged home, its a 100-year-old nursing home that has had zero cases of covid-19.
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reverend dewitt, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> nawaz: so, everyone knows the numbers, right? wh you look at covid deaths in long term care facilities around the country,hey make up some % of all covid deaths in the nation. in maryland, i think the number is over 60%. how did you beat the odds? >> well, i think the key was early, early mitigation, early proactive steps to make sure that this disease did not enter into our nursing home. and one of the things that i did was i just listened to the news aroround the and how this was affecting other countries. and then when i heard, when i heard the president say we only had 15 cases and he thought that by the end of the week it would be zo, i knew that it was ti that we take action. >> close to zero. >> nawaz: i don't want to put
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words in your mouth, but it sounds like you basically didn believe the esident and took rly action to lock down. is that correct? >> well, that's, that's correct in a sense.me , i think us being in an underprivileged and underserved area of baltimore city, we've kind of gotten used to the fact that if help is going to come, 's probably going to come too late. so we need to be prepared to take care of ourselves. >> nawaz: so tell me a little bit about what exactly you did. when you sayou acted early, what steps did you put into place back in february? >> well,he first thing we did probably very end of february, first of march, we locked down the facility. we allowed no visitors in or out. we knew that if the disease was going to get into the nursing home, it was going to come from the outside. and probably it was going to be an employee that brought it in. so we have a very rigorous screening process when they come to work. and it's almost an hour to hour detail on what you did the 12 hours or 14 hours that you
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weren't at work. o did you see? who were you with? take their temperatures. everybody's wearing masks, gown, gloves, when they have any contact with residents. had a full time quality assurance infection control nurse for years who set up a lot of measures that would help us in time of catastrophe or pandemic or even an epidemic. i took a lot of criticism for having a full time person in a 30 bed facility, which most, you know, facilities, even three times as large, don't have a full time infection control person. but then being a faith based facility, a lot of people said, "hey, you're overreacting. i thought you were a, you know, a man of god and y had faith in god." and i just simply replied that, you know, to be forewarned is to be fore-armed. and, you know, i have faith in god, but i still wear my seatbelt when i get in the car. >> nawaz: one of the things we heard from other people who run
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nursing hos and long term care facilities is that they waited in some way to lock down because they're also worried about the emotional well-being of their reindents. and loeveryone down and keeping everyone in their rooms isn't necessarily good for them. how did you weigh that consideration? >> well, that weighed very heavily in what we did.of so, onhe things that we did, we brought in extra activity staff to make sure that our residents had visits every day and then because they were taking meals within their rooms, we brought in a chef, a culinary expert, that could hp our staff make sure that the mealsin were prepare way that was more pleasing for the for the for the redents. so, you know, putting a flower on the tray kind of met a lot. you know, it's small things like that that mean a lot to them, making sure that mealtime was still a ppy ti for them. and so, we me sure that we
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took seriously the emotional health of our residents. >> nawaz: reverend, we know now nationally the toll the pandemic has taken on black communities in particular. we know black americans are disproportionately getting in.cted and dying as a resu whu at is it like for be kind of an island of safety, a covid free island right now? well, the community around you is hstill very much m's way. >> well, amna, we've had to even at my church with this pandemicg ing on, our neighborhood is unfortunate that we don't have even a supermarket within the entire zip code of where my church is located. so we're having to feed people sven days a week. sadly we are used to the disp this pandemic is affecting black and brown communities in a way, and, and it's because of the systemic racism that's built
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intouo the system that,now, don't allow food insecurity for one, lack of access and affordability to proper healthcare. and so we, we know that we have to take additional extrrdinary measures to protect ourselves >> nawaz: and amid all of this, you have managed to keep your residents, your team, who the statistics say should bemong the worst affected, you've man tagkeep them safe. do you think that you can keep that up knowing we're still in, as experts say, in the first wave of the virus? >> it is a massive undertaking to keep this going because people are getting tired. people are getting frustrated. but we just try to encourage them to continue to be patient, continue to be strong and courageous in this fight and to make sure that, you know, keep your faith, keep your faith in god and keep doing what you know
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are the best practices for your residents. and we always simply err on the side of caution. if it's a minute, 1% chance that resident is going to be affected, then we do not take that chance. >> nawae z: well,sh you safety and we wish you good heal ath and good luad. that is reverend derek dewitt, the director of the maryland ptist age home. thank you so much for taking the time to talk with us. >> amna thank you so much for having me. and thank you for telling our story. god bless. >> woodruff: states are tbrap ling to how to reopen as toronavirus cases climb. we talk to the dir of the global harvard health institute dr. jha to answ questions about the road ahead.
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