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captioning sponsored by newshour productio, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. t on "newshour" tonight, mixed rulings-- in a blow to president utrump, the supreme courtolds prosecutors' right to see his tax returns and financial records, whi rejecting congress's push for access to many of the same documents. then, surging infections-- officials scramble to flatten new curves as the debate on when to re-open schools heats up. plus, defying the odds-- a maryland nursing home with zero covid-19 infections, and the eay eps that kept residents alive. >> when i heard the president sawe only had 15 cases and he thought that by the end of the week it would be zero, i knew that it was time that we take
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and the nation struggles to stop covid-19 as surging infections show no one is beyond its reach. first, today's supreme court decisions. john yang beginsur coverage. e courtrter: the supr flatly rejected president trump's claim that he is completely immune from a state criminal investigation as long as he is in office. chief justice john roberts wrote the decision, saying, "no citizen, not even the president, is categorically above the pwheinn called upo criminalence proceeding." the 7-2 majority included justices neil gorsh and brett kavanaugh, the court's two trump ap.pointe roberts also said, "a president avail himself of the sam protections available to every other citizen" to try to block a subpoena. so the case was returned to the lower courts to give presidentni trump an oppor to make those arguments-- meaning the question m not be finally ttled for sometime.
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the dissenters--ceustices clarhomas and samuel alito-- said a sitting president de.rves special considerati " alito wrot is unrealistic to think that the prospect of possible criminal prosecutionwi not interfere with the performance of the duties of the office." today's ruling was a milestone: the first time justices said whether a president must comply with a state criminal investigation. it was stinging rebuke for a president who has a sweeping view of his powers. >> witch hunt. reporte marcia coyle is chief washington correspondent for "the natiol law journal." and is there a message to a president who says he has his article two powers, allow him to >> i think that opinion is a clear message to a sitting e president that your artio powers are not unlimited, very clear message.
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th was, you know, across ideological opinion, a very strong precedent for the future. >> reporter: a manhattan grand jury convened by district attorney cyrus vance jr. subpoenaed records-- including the presidens zealously guarded tax returns-- datingck o 2011.dr a bernstein co-hosts wnyc radio and propublica's podcast" tr p, inc." the president consistently files different sets of information on hisax documents and on other documents, for example, bk loan documents-- when you want your value to look high, the numbers don't necessarily match tax documents when you want the numbers to look low so you pay less taxes. so that is a ptern that the district attorney could possibly turn up as a byproduct of thisin stigation. >> reporter: in a separate case, the same 7-2 lineup jected the president's arguments about broader subpoenas issued b several house committees-- but it also turned away the congressional claim to virtually
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unlimited subpoena pow again, roberts wrote the majority opinion." far from accounting for separation of powers concerns, the house's approach aggravates them." >> he said the executive branch and the legislative branch work these things out together. but, apparently, he said, that process has broken down. roberts said, what we need here is a balanced approach, and it has to take into consideration that these are two independent branches of our government. >> reporter: this matter, too, was sent back to the lower courts with instructions to determine whether the house serv was sent back to the lower courts with instructions to determine whether the house subpoenas see a legislative purpose and are not too broad. we his dissent, thomas said" congress has no to issue a legislative subpoena for private, nonofficial documents-- whether they belong to theen presor not. " house speaker nancy pelosi vowed to keep seeking the material.
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>> we will continue to press our caseco in loweurts. >> reporter: former trump attorn pey michael cohlays a key role both subpoenas. his claim that he was the middle man for hush money payments to two women who say they had sexual relaonships with mr. ump-- which the president denies-- is part of the new york grand ry investigation. >> he turned over records. we've seen them. he turned them over when he testified before the house in y 19. the check signednald trump for $35,000, part of the husht. money paym so we know that those cuments ex at. >> reporte his congressional testimony triggered the house request. >>t was my experience that mr. trump inflated his total assets when it served his >> reporter: house committees want the records to look for possible financial wrongdoing in property deals and whether overseas loans make the erpresident vule to foreign influence.
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it's unlikely any of the documents would be made public eluntil after thtion. for the "pbs newshour," i'm john yang. >> woodruff: now that the supreme cot has spoken, what consequenc will the >> woodruff: now that the supreme court has spoken, what consequences will these rulings have on the powers of the president and those whoeek to investigate him. we get two perspectives tonight: mary mccord is a former prorosecho became the justice department's top national security official during the obama administration. she's now at georgetown university. and jesse panuccio was the department's number three official, the actirn associate at general in the trump administration until last ye n. he in private practice. we welcome you both to the program. i want to begin with the justice's ruling on the manhattan case. what do you make to have the justice's reasoning h much of a setback do you think this is for the president?el >> this was an important decision because all nine justices, g include
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dissenters, agree that there was no absolutemmunity that the president could assert that would prevent him from having to respond to a criminal subpoena, and the justices were very -- you know, again -- unanimous in this, and although some differee inir rationale, it's important because, historicallya for 200 years the chief justice pointed out, no person has been above the law, anthat includes the president. so this was a real victory for the new york attorney cy vance, it was a realebuke to the overreach, the assertion of absolute munity, which the e esident had gone farther than olicitor general had gone in that case. >> woodruff: jesse panuccio, was it a miscalculation for the president's attorneys to make the argument they did to try argue that the president was immune? >> well, judy, good evening, waanks for having me. i don't think ita
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miscalculation. if you look at whathe supreme court did today, it gave the president a loss on absolute immunity but, politically, he probably got a win.e thases will continue to be litigated. they will be litigated wellst the election, so these subpoenas, if they are ever enfoed, will be enforced after that time. and then, legally, in both the new york case d the congressional case, the supreme court gave the president a lot to work with in tms of making arguments going forward, concentrating on the n york case, the supreme court was very clear in recognizing that local prosecutors can be motivated improperly by politics or political retaliation or bad faith, and the court made veryth clea the federal courts must be open to the president to protect him from that kind of local prosecutorial misconduct. >> woodruff: well, the president doesn't seem to think it's a win y heard, he's calling it a polintcal witch nd a hoax.
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but, mary mccord, back to you. on what recourse the president now has when it comes to abhis ity to stop what the manhattan d.a. is trying to go after, he can rest now, as i understand it, on an argument i'm ju an ordinary citizen, but i still think what you'reg dohas no foundation, can he not? >> so, in this ense, the preshad, again, put all his eggs in one sket when he brought this case to try to stop these subpoenas. he argued he was absolutely immune. he didn't make any other arguments like an ordinary person might make like this subpoe too burdensome, brought in bad faith or harassment, those types of arguments, this subpoena causes constitutional problems. so what the supreme court says, we're not vacating the lowerr opinionight, we're affirming the lower court opinion which
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denied absolute immunity, which is the second circuit opinion, but even the second circuit said the case should go back to the district court in case the president has any other arguments to make such as burden, harassment, abuse, that he could make a those li ordinary citizen. so the supreme court was jt affirmin what the second circuit had already said which is no absute immunity, but you can make other arguments you might want to make, president. i thi it's important to recognize that, even in doing that, the supreme court did say, in considering the arguments that would be made, the lower khz should consider the fact that this is the president, right. not necessarily special treatment will you in analyzing the arguments e person making the arguments -- in this case, the president -- just like any her person would make arguments unique to him. in this case, he had made no arguments at all sique to t subpoena by cy vance in this case about how it might burden i
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him, hmight have been abusive or harassing, and he's sayinghe things he's saying but he'll have to make arguments that will convince a court that this is overreerchtion and there's nothing about the supreme court's decision thatsu ests that the supreme court thought these subpoenas were overreach or abusive or harassing. >> woodruff: but jesse panuccio, i hear you saying you think that is what the president's attorneys are now likely to do. is that right? >> well, iha thinks right and, respectfully, i don't think it's true that there'shi n in the opinion that speaks to whether the court thought the subpoena by mr. vae was overreaching. at the very outset of the ope inion, the supreurt calls the investigation opaquely described. it notwees reading b the lines, i think with some disapproval, that the subpoena simply was a word-for-word copy of a congressional subpoena, and after it rejects claims of absolute immunity, it goes on s
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very clearly t the president is a special office under the constitution, that separation of powers does matter and there are special considerations when it comes to a president and local prosecutors such as the fa that a local prosecutor can be improperly politically motivated, and i read the opinion as saying the presiden t can begi probe those motivations and, most t interestingls is going back probably to the sdny. this is the same court that few years ago said the state of new york could sake discovery into the motivations of secretary wilbur ross in the census case. if i were the president's lawyers i would say i want discovery into the motivations of c vance, i want to know what his prosecutors did to come up with the subpoena, whether they had contact with any political actors, whether they are retaliating against me because of decisions i made in the state of new york and federal policies. i think that's all open now
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under the supreme court's special opinion. >> woodruff: we'll wait and see. mo broadly, in terms of the office of the presidency going forward. >> nawaz: saw mary mccord some analysis today saying that the fact that thjustices were even asked to say what they said today in a way weakens or take something awy from the president's prerogative. how do you see that argument? >> are you speaking particularly of the second case, the case involving the house subpoenas? >> woodruff: i think b cases. >> yeah. so, you know, historically, you really saw this in the supreme cours decision in the deutsch bank case that historically these type dofputes between branches -- granted, the cy vance case isnot a dispute between branches -- but historically disputes between the branches have been resolved between the branches. they haven't gone to the courts and never to the supreme
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court. so i think you saw level o disappointment from the supreme court that it really has to be dealing with this thing, notwithstanding they reviewed th important issues pressed by the president and by his attorneys in the face of rulings against and below.o it's amportant, i think, to recognize that, in the second case, the mazar's case, even though that ends up a vacater of the opinion and a remand, there really wasn'ta clear winner in the case because the supreme court said both parties' positions were too extreme and both parties, what they've ask for would -- runs into separation of powers concernyos becausu've got two political co-oak wall branches in coctli with each other. the president wanted to go too far, that would undercut congres article 1 function
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and thought congress went too far as well. >> woodruff: and just quickly, jesse panucchat i what about do you see a cost to the office of the presidency in the fa that the court had to deal with this issue? >> well, there can be a cost because ultimately you can get a ruling and that can constrain what you can do as the president going forward, but i think in both these opinions the cour was at pains to leave many questions open for another day. in the congressional opinion, e court notes, toward the end, that one days every 200 years is not enough to flesh out all the considerations that may matter to federal courts and the congre and the president going forward. so i think what ultimately the claims of aolute immunity were rejected today, the court left open plenty of avenues for this president and refuresidents
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to make arguments about presidential prerogative and, ankly, to future congresses, and i think the court was cognizant of the fact that you esn't know what exact shape future controverill take place between congress and the president. you only know that since the founding of the country they've existed and will continue to exis so i think the court left a lot of room for, i think, future maneuverability. >> woodruff: two very important rulings. jesse panuccio, mary mccord, thank you both for joining us to explore all of this. thank you. >> goodnight. stay well. thank you. >>noodruff: now, the latest the summer surge of the coronavirus pandemic. the number of dead topped 550,000 worldwide today, induding 133,000 in the uni states. and, the numbers of new infectio showed no of abating. white house correspondent yamiche alcindor rorts.
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>> reporter: day by day, the new surge in covid-19 cases is growing. much of e country is now steadily reporting increased infections. and today, there were new single-day highs in alabama ando montana, aer parts of the country. only two states-- vermont andn hampsre-- are seeing infections decline, according "" the new york times." governors are scrambling to try to flatten the new curve, after their states reopened. >> we need to protect the vulnerable-- if you're in those vulnerable age groups, or have co-morbidities, be very careful about types of close contact you have, avoid crowds at all costs because those are gonna beou situations whe're going to be most at risk. >> reporter: today, the tion's top infectious diseases doctor advised states to "f"pause" g restrictions. doctor anthony fauci spoke on an online forum in washington.>> o, rather than think in terms of reverting back to a complete shutdown i would think we would need to get the states
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pausing in their opening process looking at what did not work well and try to mitigate that. >> reporter: meanwhile, the head of the centers for disease control and prevention insisted his agency is not revising its guidelines for schools to reopen. >> ioit's not a revof the guidelines, it's just to provide additional information to help the schools beble to use the guidance that we put forwar >> reporter: robert redfield spoke a y after president trump called the c.d.c. standards "impractical." yesterday, vice president pence said new guidelines would be coming out next week as a result of the president's criticism. at the capitol, debate also heated up over reopening schools. house speaker nancy pelosi warned against putting childn at risk. >> this administration seems to be turning its back on science and instead saying, "open up, take a risk, oh, by the way, open up the schools." overwhelmingly the teachers want to open up the schools, but it
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has to be safe for the children. >> reporter: but house minority leader kevin mccarthy argued that remote learning will hurt a generation of students. and he urged incentives foum schools to r >> you can protect them from liability so schools will actually have a willingness and a desire to open and notey fear that e gonna be sued. >> reporter: the pandemic's economic damage keeps mounting, as well. the labor department said today more than 1.3 million americans filed for unemployment benefits last we. the world's other hotspots are also struggling tinmake headway. a today reported 25,000 new cases in 24 hours. in hard-hit mumbai, doctors went door-to-door to test residents for the virus. and, the government of serbia dropped plans for a wee lockdown after two nights of violent protests ovethe restrictions. officials also banned gatherings of more than ten people in belgrade.
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for the "pbs newshour," i'm yamiche alcindor. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, president trump'former personal lawyer, michael cohen, returned to federal prison. he'd been seen dining out in manhattan over the weekend, and prison officia say he rejected terms of his home confinement. cohen was released in may, amid the "covid-19" pandemic, after serving ten months for tax evasion, campaign finance fraud and lying to congress. his sentence runs through november 2021. the judge in the michael flynn case is now asking a full federaapals court to consider the case. the former national securitylt adviser pled gto lying to the f.b.i. lateder the justicrtment moved to drop the case, but the ju me refused. lath, a panel of the appeals court ordered the chargesismissed. the ousted u.s. attorney in manhattan was interviewed today
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by the u.s. house juy committee. geoffrey berman had be leading probes of president trump's associates when he was forced out. he told lawmakers that attorneye ral william barr offered him another posion, to leave of s own accord. afterward, democratic committee chair jerry nadler was sharply citical. >> the attorney general repeatedly attempted to entice berman to step down voluntarily, even after berman made clear that his leaving would disrupt certain sensitive cases. we don't kw yet if the attorney general's conduct is criminal, but that kind of quid pro quo gets awfully close to bribery. >> woodruff: attorney general barr goes before the committee later this month. eriff's investigators in southern california confirmed today that a black man, found hanging in a tree, committed suicide. thesa robert fuller suffered from mental illness. the discovery of his body in palmdale last month sparked a
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d otest. his family has sller would never have taken his own life. the trump administration today banned three senior chinese communist party members fromen ring the u.s. they are accused of subjecting uighurs and other minorities to forced labor, mass detentions and attacks on their muslim faith. onof the three officials is a member of the ruling "politburo." in the presidential campaign: democratic nominee-to-be joe biden offered a sweeping plan to bolster u.s. manufacturing in the wake of e pandemic. spoke in dunmore, pennsylvania, and called for spending $700 billion on american-made goods and research and development. >>e need to strengthen our industrial base as long-idrm sources ofe class job creation. let's use this opportunity to make bold investments inus american iy and innovation so the future is made in
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america, all in america. >> woodruff: on the republican side, vice president pence also campaigned across pennsylvania toda the wisconsin state supreme court today upheld laws that lit e power of the democratic attorney general. they were passed by a lame-duck republican-led legislature, afte the measures also targeted the democratic governor elected that same year. on wall street, stocks mostly lost ground, on worries about the covid-19 surge. e dow jones industrial average lost 361 points to close at06 25 the nasdaq added 55 points, but the s&p 500 slipped 17. and, for the first te ever, a female soldier has joined the green berets. ate unidentified woman gra today om the u.s. army's
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grueling 53-week special forces qualification course at fort bragg, north carolina. still to come on the "newshour," international students at u.s. universities on e ministration's threat to deport them. one-on-one: white house trade adviser peter navarro on u.s.m.c.a. and the move toward economic recovery. plus a maryland nursing home with zero infections, and the >> this is the newshour monday, the department of homeland the roughly 1 million international students who are currently enrolled the u.s.
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must attend at least one in-person class this fall, or they will be denied visas to either enter or stay in the country. e news came as both colleges and students are struggling to make plans for the fall semester in the middle of a pandemic. we start byri h from some of the students reacting to the news. >> i'm e kenya and south sudan and i'm currently enrolled at skidmore college. ve i'm raul romero. i'm from caracaszuela. f i'm one of tst geneticists out of the pacific islands. my entire world view of how we should be approaching science and medicine changed by the
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opportunities i was afforded by coming to the united states. >> my >> my research is based on, solely based on the library sources i have. and the california library system is one of the largest library systems in the u.s.-- in the world. and this is just a tremendous f resour researchers like me. >> you have hands-on experience of what you dream of in the united states. and now it's being taken away om me in many ways. so i don't know what to think about it. >> the new regulation, again, blindsided us completely, and thchoices i'maced with this either risk my life and health d go to class in person or risk being deported, even though i am legally here. >> we're basically having >> we're basically having to make the choice of stang, continuing our education and becoming deportable, or going our country certainly in many cases face a certain amount of risks. in venezuela igoes beyond the humanitarian crisis , d the
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violenere's also, you know, very poor internet connection. blackouts are occurring daily. there's no constant supply of water. >> i'm most concerned about my education because i don't think i have the luxury of the option of, stance, taking a semester gap or deciding to go back home and take a break or anything of that sort. >> there's, like, this constant, you know, feeling that, like, i s don't belong here sometid that, like, you know, even though i'm paying so much monean and so muci'm on a student loan. >> we're here temporarily and we're not even being allowed to stay here temporarily. >> i mean, it's, it's tiring, it's hectic, it's frustrating. it's really draining and there's not much we can always do from our side. >> this law makes me and a lot of internlational students f that we are deserted by the country, we're unwelcome here. what is the most devastating thing for me is that feeling of
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rejection. .t woodruff: harvard and m quickly filed a lawsuit to block theew rule, saying it riske the health of students and faculty. on of the major institutio grappling with the change is the university of wisconsin, madison. jeffrey brown spoke with its chancellor rebecca blank, ati shor ago. >> reporter: rebecca blank, thank you for joining us. we heard from several students. i understand you have some 5,800 foreign students on campus there. what do you think is the impact on them?o >>is is an unwise and a terribly disruptive policy.e we hany students who are in the middle of programs, many of them doing research work in labs withcu y. having to tell them all to go home if they can't take in-person classes simply doesn't make any sense. now, we're trying to run a hybrid model of both in-person and online classes this next
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semesr, so i'm hopingany of them will be able to stay in madison. but so students can'tget home. some students it's not safe for them to be in their home country. this infections are far worse there than here in madison, you know, and some students if they stop out it's not good to get back. >> reporter: the secretary at d.h.s. said if there not a student or 100% online they don't have a basis to be here. they should return aome come back when the school opens. what's wrong with that logic. >> there are a lot of reasons for a student to be here on campus or in the united states while they are a registered student at r campuses. as i say, some of them may well be working withaculty, doing lab work and research, even if they are taking lclasses ine. some of them will be in situations where ere are literally no flights back to
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some countries now. n't get there. we had a number of students who stayed last spring when we went online, almost all international students, many stayed over the summer because they were reasonably certain if they went home they wldn't be able to get back to school here this fall. it's quite clear when schoo dng gerupted in this way that, once you stop out, you know, once it becomes har it's just that much harder for students to get back in d finish their degree, and we want all these students to get an education and to finish their degrees as fully and quicky as possible. >> we're talking about the impact on students. what about the impact ontools like yours? where are you in planning for the fall anhow much doe this -- how many of an impact would this have? >> so we a rery businessly trying to change our entire mode of operation so wan have students back on campus and do so in way that's safe for students as well as faculty and staff. if we're able to accomplish
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we're going believe to be able to, then our international students should be able to stay under this order. but, of course, it's possible infections get worse, rious things happen and that we would have to go to an all-online program at some point in the fall and at that point all our foreign students would be under threat of going home. obviously there arel institutioinancial effects on this, but that's not the primary issue. our students are part of our campus community, they're integrated into it in a number of ways. we want them to as safe and as healthy as possible and, in many cases for them, even if we're online, being in our dormt aning here in madison and not trying to get home to what are sometimes much me uncertain situations in their home countries. >> reporter: but there are financials. implicati a lot to have the students would be paying full tuition, you wouldn't be getting what would happen if this goes through and you lose these l,udents? >> wou know, the effect on
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our tuition from our international students is about $200 million. that's not zero. of course, if w ago to virtual and online situation, we will be having studen dropping outho are domestic students as well as international. but as i say, my main concernou this policy is not the financial implications. we're going to do everying we can to try to be open in the fall. my concern is its impact on the education of students. t i should s presence of foreign students at american universities has been incredibly important to this country. they go home, they become busiss leaders, they become political leaders. their connections back to the united stnges from haeen to our schools and having spent time in the u.s. are just golden, in terms of creating long-term relationships between this country and other countries. >> several critics of this administrion and this move have seen it as an attempt, a political attempt to f torce collego reopen in the fall.
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do you see it that way? ti you know, i cat judge the motivas behind this regulation. as i said, i just think it's a very unwise regulatio it was issued with, as far as i know, no consultation with any of the universitiesr higher education organizations, htand caverybody by surprise which, of course, makes it all the more disruptive. >> so, briefat is the next step for you? i know several schools, harvard and m.i.t. among them, have sued, already. you have not joined that suit, i don't think, yet. what's the next step? >> so, you know, we're clearly trying to message to our students that we're doingng everyte can to have online classes available to them and we're going to work with them be able to stay here. we're looking at legal options, whether it makes sense to or not as a state institution, we have certain constraints on that. but i issued a very strong statement of opposition to this
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particular regulation. we've talked to our delegation in the u.s. senate and congress ansome have been very supportive of. this i hope we can get i.c.e. tid the administn to really re-think what they're doing here. >> reporter: rebeca ank, chancellor at university of wisconsin at madison, thank you very much,. >> thank you. woodruff: president trump's new north american trade de, the "united states-mexico-canada agreement," known as "u.s.m.c.a.," was celebrated at the white house yesterday along with it come questions about the trade deal and what it methans foamerican economy. peter navarro is president trump's trade adviser and he joins us now frousthe white ho peter navarro, welcome, agaiur to the "news. so president trump called the predecessor to this deal the worst trade deal ever.
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in a sentence, how is this trade agreement better? >> nafta, which joe biden and a lot of other people voted for in 92, was structured in a way, judy, so that american jobs were red into mexico by mexico's cheap labor and lacks environmental controls, and mexico lost a lot of itssupply chain to china. what usmca does is turn that completely on its head. it's structured in a way to make north america the manufacturing powerhouse of the world, and the way it helnps ameri workers -- and this is the most important part -- it has local content regulations which provide, for example, in automobiles, that a certain percentage of that has to american-made and to ensure that the jobs don't go south, there's also strict wage and environmental restrictios on mexico. so this is a situation where, rarely, in arade deal, mexico,
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canada, and the u.s. all benefit.le >> woodruff: s me ask you about that because, right now, this deal does take effect as of yesterday, but it comes as all three countries are mired in recession because to have the pandemic -- becausof the pandemic, and my understanding is many of the deal's requirements, like expanding worker rights, opening up the flow of agriculture, these things have not been fully met, even as it has been signed. so there's still work to do. >> oh, there's certainly work to do, but it's nonetheless very good news for our manufacturing industries in north america. also, it has things in it like relief for dairy farmers and places like wiscon where the canadians were putting exorbitant tariffs on. but the bigger picture here, judy, is that we're in a situation now where, in the 2000s, china cheated on itlss trade dnd we lost millions of american jobs. what we have now is a situation
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where the chinese communist party lied about thisirus, the pandemic came here, and now not onlyre americans dying in large numbers, we 30 million americans unemployed, and we're facing significant structural head winds because o inese communist party. now, what i can tell you is that we are workinger me trying to make sure that we're bouncing back. so far, theumbers looood, but it's also true, judy, at the we're going to face structural head winds as we move in time, as industries like hospitality, transportation and entertainment, all suffer from these pandemic effects fm china, and what the mission of the president is to use hideep understanding of economics and business to make sure weou navigate t those shoals. so in the next few weeks there will be a new phase four deal g thatng to be negotiated on capitol hill and, in theme meanwe're doing everything we can to bring our
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manufacturing jobs back to u.s. soil, which is going to be the key to reemploying the service sector refugees that we lose in the s beleagueredtors. >> woodruff: so you're making a number of allegations here about the chinese and know a number of other countries have looked at this virus as well, but theyeem to be doing a lot better than the united states in terms of keeping it under control. you're putting all the blame >>ght now on china. >> yes. eporter: yet, the united states, as you know, is leading the world in the number of peoplebe infected, the n of people who have died, and there are fingers pointed at this president's leadership >> sure, and -- >> woodruff: so, i mean -- let me -- >> woodruff:t what i want to ask you is if you look at this economy and you look at the ent's leadership, i mea you can't just point at china. >> well, i can just point in china in the following sense -- the reason why we have so many cases in china has -- and china
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haless is this, not only did china spawn the virus in november, they hid it about two months. during that time, china restricted travel within china to contain the virus, but theds sent thousof chinese nationals on aircraft, which many of them were infected, and haread the seed of that virus. sos part of the problem we're facing now. here's the thing, w judy,re now in a situation after going through several months of economic lockdown where w have really hard choices to make, and these are the hardest choices a president ever has to make -- how fast do we open up the economy. what we've learned in the first wave is complete shutdown has tremendous economic advantage but kills people throughis scho depression, more drug use, things like that. what we're trying to do that balance that as we open up and it's a work in progress. we had pethat the virus would subside somewhat in t summertime with the heat and
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humidity. virtually everyen sst thought that was going to happen. it hasn't. but we're managing that. the good thing here, judy, is at -- and i'm directly at the center of much of this -- we are building our strategic national stockpiles for personal protective equipment and medicines. that's going very well. we're much more sophiicated now about managing the issue. but, you know, this is war. this is ati w president, this is the chinese virus, and i'm not going to sugar coat anything today. we've got a fight on our hands. >> woodruff: well, and there are so many things to raise with you about alle that you said, peter navarro, but, specifically, let me just move quicklyahead to what joe biden said today. he has now rolled outn his plan for improving the economy. he sai is president has created an economy that caters to wall street, and what he's doing, he said, i've got a plan that's going to bring back jobs that have en los this year, i'm going to create at least
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5 million more jobs with sweeping investments cin domes technology, i'm going to reduce or dependence on foreignup countries thaty critical goods, i'm going to implement trade and tax policie that empower u.s. workers. in other words, he is sayin this president has failed on all those fronts. >> so joe biden wasaround for 44 years and basically helped oversee the offshoring of american jobs, turned his back on workers. in three and a half years, leading up to january 15th this president was the greatest president -- jobs president in history and in terms of catering to wreerkts gus what, we had the lowest unemployment rate ever in history for blks, hispanics, asians women, and everything looked great because of the president's policies. now, i thought it was -- you snow, the saying imitation i the sincerest form of flat ri, when i looked at joe biden's plan, all he was doing was copying all the things that we have been dog as an
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administration with respect to buy american, on shoring jobs, increasing manufacturing. don't forget, judy, during the obama-biden years, they lost 200,000 mufacturing jobs net. during this presidency, we've added over half a million. so, remember, 44 years of joe biden, nothing but offshoring american jobs. three and a half years the greatest jobs president in history. >> woodruff: if i could ickly quot there's reporting today steve bannon who, of course, has been a clo advisor to the president, said, when it comes to this buy american proposal fm joe biden, that the trump administration was caught flat-footed. there's reporting that the administration's b put together its own proposal, "buy american proposal," but it hasn't been able to come to an agreement. has the administration, h the white house been delayed in trying to come up with your own proposal on how to improve -- >> yeah, i personally watch the president sign five different buy american orders. we've had a tremendous reduction
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inaivers, we've had a tremendous increase in the amount of government procurement that goes to buy american. we've had a great success with buy american. it is the president's two simple rules. the next challenge we face, and this is going to be a veryul diff one, but we are committed and engaged, which is to bring our medices and our medical splice and equipment, a production supply chains home, and it's a struggle, but we've seen, for example, we brought factories in arizona and rhe island on n95 masksup we stoo a factually in 17 days in kokomo, indiana, by general motes, producing 20 million swabs a month in guilford, maine. so we are the "buy american" presidency, and i'm proud ton have bt the president's side when he signed the orders and i have been very active in
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terms ofme imping them. we have work to do on the pharmaceutical and supplyns ch >> woodruff: two other quick questions about china. there was a china trade deal that had been negotiated before the pandemic hit. it requiredchina to buy more u.s. goods, b there wasn't enforcement as part of that. can you require that china do what it was supposed to doder that agreement? >> there are clear enforcement mechanisms in the phase one al. to date, it's absolutely true that china has underperfctmed with reso its purchases, but we have been insured by thae chinese y the end of the year they will make good on those. but this is ronald reagan territory, trust but verify. let's see what happens.t remember what i told you at the beginning of this interview. ring the 2000s, china cheated and stole our jobs. today they're lyingo us and killing americans with tha virus.
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>> woodruff: and does president trump still consider president xi jinping a friend? >> you would have to ask the president that, but i can assure you there's nowhere on tin side of the perimeter of this whiteus that has a high level of trust in the chinese communist party at this point,pa icularly with respect to their behavior on this chinese rus. >> woodruff: peter navarro, thank you very much. >> thank you, judy. >> woodruff: of the nation'sor nearly 130,000avirus meaths, more than 40,000 have been in nursing amna nawaz brings us the story of one facility that beat the odds. >> nawaz: i'm joined now by reverend derek dewitt. he's the director of the maryland baptist aged home, its a 100-year-old nursing home thas has had zero of covid-19.
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reverend dewitt, thankso much for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> naweraz: so, ne knows the numbers, right? when you look at covid deaths in long term care facilities around the country, they make up some d 40% of all covths in the nation. in maryland, i think the number is o%. how diatd you he odds? >> well, i think the key was eaigrly, early mion, early proasuctive steps to mak that this disease did not enter into our nursing home. and one of the things that i did was i just listened to the news arnd the world and how thi was affecting other countries. and then when i heard, when i heard the president say we only had 15 cases and he thought that by the end of the week it would be zero, i knew that iwas time that we take action. >> closeo zero >> nawaz: i don't want to put
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words in your mouth, but it sounds like you basically didn't believe the president and tooko early actionck down. is that correct? >> well, that's, that's correct ei a sense. i mean, i think us in an underprivileged and underserved area of baltimore city, we've kind of gotten used to the fact that if help is going to come, it's probably going to come too late. so we ed to be prepared to take care of ourselves. >> nawaz: so tell me a little bit about what exactly you did. when you say you acted early, what steps did you put into place back in february? >> well, the first thing wdid probably very end of february, first of march, we locked down the facility. we allowed no visitors in or out. we knew that if the disease was going to get into the nursing home, it was going to co the outside. and probably it was going to bee loyee that brought it in. so we have a very rigorous screening process when they come to work. and it's almost an hour to hour detail on what you did the 12 hours or 14 hours that you
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weren't at work. who did you se who were you with? take their temperatures. everybody's wearing masks, gown, gloves, when they have any contact with residents. we had a full time ality assurance infection control nurse for years who set up a lot of measures that would help us in time of catastrophe or pandemic or even an epidemic. i took a lot of criticism for having a full time person in a 30 bed facility, which most, you know, facilities, even three tes as large, don't have a full time infection control person. but then being faith based facility, a lot of people said, "hey, you're overreacting. i thought you were a, you know, n of god and you had faith in god." and i just simply replied that, you know, to be forewarned is to be fore-armed. and, you know, i have faith ingo but i still wear my tatbelt when i get in the car. >> nawaz: one of tngs we heard from other people who run nursing homes and long term care
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facilities is that they waited in some way to lock down because they're also worried about the emotional well-being of their residents. anand locking everyone dow keeping everyone in their rooms n't necessarily good for them. how did you weigh that consideration?el >> that weighed very heavily in what we did. so, one of the things that we did, we brought in extra activity staff to make sure that our residents had visits every day and then because they were taking meals within their rooms, we brought in a chef, a culinary expert, that could help our staff make sure that the meals wererepared in a way that wa more pleasing for the fothe for the residents. so, you know, putting a flower on the tray kind of meant a lot. you know, it's small things like that that mean a lot to them, making sure that mealtime was still a happy time for them.d , we made sure that we
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took seriously the emotional health of our residents. >> nawaz: reverend, we know now nationally the toll the pandemic has taken on black communities in particular.w we kack americans are disproportionately getting infected and dying as a result. what is it le for you to be nd of an island of safety, a covid free island right now? well, the community around you is still ve much in harm's y. >> well, amna, we've had to even at crch with this pandemic gor ing on, ighborhood is unfortunate that we don't have even a supermarket within the entire zip code of where my church is located. so we're having to feed people seven days a week. sadly we are used to the disparity. this pandemic is affecting black and brown communities in a way, and, and it because of the systemic racism that's built
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into the syst that, you know, don't allow food insecurity for one, lack of access andit affordabto proper healthcare. and so we, we know that we have to take additional extraordinary measures to protect ourselves >> nawaz: and amid all of this, you have managed to keep your residents, your team, who the statistics say should be among the worst affected, you've managed to keep them safe. do you think that you can keep that up knowing 're still in, as experts say, in the first wave of the virus? >>t is a massive undertaking to keep this going because people are getting tired. people are getting frustrated. but we just try to encourage them to continue to be patient, continue to be strong and courageous in this fight and to make sure that, you kn f, keep yourth, keep your faith in god owand keep doing what you
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are the best practices for your residents. ansid we alwayly err on the side of caution. ifha it's a minute, 1%e that a resident is going to be affected, then we do not take that chance. >> nawaz: well, we wish you safety health and good luck ahead. that is reverend derek dewitt, the director of the maryland baptist age home. thank you so much for taking the time to aalk with us. a thank you so much for having me. and thank you for telling our story. god bless. >> woodruff: states are tbrap ling to how to reopen asna corus cases climb. we talk to the director of the global harvard health institute dr. jha to answer questions about the road ahead.
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