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captioning sponsored by wnet >> sreenivasan: on this edition for saturday, july 18: the coronavirus tbreak continues to spread as the number of cases breaks daily records; and remembering legendary civil rights leader john lewis. next on pbs newshour weekend. >> pbs newsho weekend is made possible by: sue and edgar wachenheim iii. the anderson fily fund bernard and denise schwartz. the cheryl and philip milstein faly.
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barbara hope zuckerberg. charles rosenblum. we try to live in the moment, to not miss what's right in front of us. at mutual of america, we believe taking care of tomorrow can help you make the most of today. mutual of america financial group, retirement services and vestments. additional support has been provided by: consumer cellular. and by: and by the corporation for vapublic broadcasting, a p corporation funded by the american people. urand contributions to pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> sreenivasan: good evening, and thanks for joining us. john lewis, one of theeadersof he civil rights movement and a member of congress for more than 33 years, died yesterday of pancreatic cancer. he was 80 years old. lewis was diagnosed with sge- four canr last december but continued to work, to vote in the house of representatives and to speak out as the black lives
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matter movement and protests began this spring. in early june, lewis visited the newly-named black lives matter plaza in washington, d.c. >> people in d.c. and around the nation are sending a mighty, powerful andtrong message to the rest of the world thate will get there. >> sreenivasan: in march, he traveled tthe edmund pettus bridge in selma,labama, to attend the 55th anniversary of the voting rights protest and march there that became known "" bldy sunday." in 1965, lewis was severelyon injure the bridge along with many others wh state police attackedhe peaceful demonstrators. was beaten and arrested dozens of times at sit-ins, marches, and other non-violent demonstrations demanding equal righ. known for his powerful speeches, lewis frequently remindeddi ces that they needed to speak up and stand up for what is right. >> when you see something that is not right, not fair, not just-- say something. do something.
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get in trouble, good trouble, necessary trouble. >> sreenivasan: john lewis was born on februa 21, 1940, outside of troy, alabama, the n of sharecroppers. he attended segregated public schools and said it was the activism and the radio broadcasts of martin luther king, jr., that inspired him to dedicate his life to civil rights. lewis left alabama for college in tennessee, where he helped organize sit-ins at segregated lunch counters in naville. in 1961, he was one of the original freedom riders who challenged segregation at the south.us terminals across lewis helped found the student nonviolent coordinating committee and became a k ally of martin luther king, jr. at age 23, lewis was the yogest speaker at th1963 march on washington, where king gave his "i have a dream speech. >> we are tired. weyre tired of being beaten policemen. we are tired of people being locked up in jail over and over again. and then, patient." "be
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how long can we be patient? we want our freedom, and we want it now! >> sreenivasan: in an interview with newshour's gwen ifill in 2013, lewis reflected on his words that day.ga >> when yo your speech thatay, you were considered to be a radical. everody remembers the "i have a dream" speh as being this uplifting speech about togetherness and brotherhood, but yours was a little tougher. >> i felt that we had to be tough. i had to deliver a speech that reflected the feeling, the views of the young people, and also the views and feelings of the people that was struggling in the black belt of alabama, in southwest georgia, in the delta of mississippi. >> sreenivasan: lewis was elected to the house of representatives from the t distrit includes much of atlanta in 1986, becoming onlyan the second afrmerican to
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represent georgia in congress since reconstruction.le s continued to stand up and cause the "good trouble" he advocated roughout his life. >> we're calling on the common sense gun chouse to bring legislation to the house floor. >> sreenivasan: he led a sit in on the floor of the house in 2016, demanding gun control legislation afr the pulse nightclub mass killing in orlando, florida, chose not to attend the inaugurations of presidents (eapplauseb)sh and donald trump. in 2011, president barack obama awarded lewis the nation's highest civilian hor, the presidential medal of freedom. today, mr. obama paid tribute to lewis, writing: "he loved this country so mh that he risked his life and his blood so that it might live up to ths promise. anugh the decades, he not only gave all of himself to the ,use of freedom and justi but inspired generations that followed to try to live up tos ample."
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>> sreenivasan: for more reaction to john lewis' death and his legacy, i spoke with special correspondent chaulayne hunter and university of pennsylvania professor and historian mary frances berry. first, thank you both for joining me. charlayne, i-- i want to start with you. given not only yr place in the civil rights movement, but how long you've known john lew, what does this passing mean? >> well, you know, i-- i said to friends of mine who've been texting me since the word of his passing came out that i hope i could get through this without crying.ng but what's ama and i think what keeps me from actually shedding too many tears-- is that john had been preparing for this moment all of his life, especially all of his civil rights life. leave washington, d.c., on that
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challenge to interst segregation, they wrote their wills and said that "we may not make it back so, they-- john has been prepared to transition, as we say, all of his life. he's-- he was so strong that even at that young ageas so dedicated to the proposition of ending segregation and everything that it meant, that he was prepared to die. >> sreenivasan: professor berry, when you look at the arc of john lewis' life, it's remarkable how many places he shows up in histor i mean, over and over again, here's this figure that's consistently there. >> for me, john lewis was forever a presence in my life.
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i remember that. that's just my adue-- john now, lewis has been a presence.le i'm from nashvand it was nashville where he went toap americanst seminary. and it's nashville where he and diane nash and other people started the national protest. and it's nashville where my little brother, my youngest brother, whoas 12 years old, heard on the radio them taing about it and ran out of school and took all of his classmates with him and ran down to sit ine so, he was tthat-- at american baptists is-- is-- is relevant to all of our lives. jim lawson, who taught them about nonviolence right there in shville. and after that, even until the present, john lewis, from time to time, pops up at things that i'm doing, he's doing. we encounter each other, see each other, even in recent he became the warrose
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reputation from getting hit over the head down there on the bridge and all the other things that he did could be relied upon in policy discussions to get-- make the statement or give you the support that people would say, "well, okay, if you got l jois on your side, i guess maybe we ought to talk about doing that." was principled. he did what he thought he should do. but if he thought somebody else knew more than he did or had more experience than he did, he would listen prayerfully becse he was a spiritual guy, too. he was practical, uat he was spir and he was courageous. and he was useful to the movement forever because jt saying his name, getting his pport could be crucial a important times.as >> sreen: i want to ask you both this question. charlayne, you first. in the context of what isha
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ening in america today, the rise of the black lives matter movementthe-- the protests how john lewis perceived this struggle as a lifelong one, put th in context for us. >> he saw this as a holy crusad e fight that john fought didn't end when the civil rights movement... and, by the way, we have-- we had a president then who was white segregationist. and he shocked even john when john and the rest of the civil rights movemens activities led to the voting rights act and the civil rights act. and-- and this white segregationist president stood there and said, "on this day, with this bill becoming law, we shalovercome." now, can you imagine that
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happening today? maybe it will happen later today. who knows? but i think what's important is that john knew that this was not an instantaneous thing, that important.hts was very it's important today because what we see at they fought against, voting rights is now on are efforts to limit manyhere people, including people of color, from voting. so, in a sense, that phrase, "what goes around, comes around," comes around. and so, i think that the fact that so many yng people day respect and honor john lewisal need to be-- to know that what we need today is a coalition the generations. younr people, older people getting together to do the kinds of things that have bee all along that john thought and
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fought for was so necessary. the freedom rides were the first attention.t international we have that today. but what we also need is what john and so many oths did. once ty finished protesting, communities and worked hard, face to face-- and now, with masks, i hope-- getting people to register to vote. there's somethin- lessons learned from john lewis' past that are every bits relevant today. "make good trouble" and "keep on eping on" is what john, think, might say today. i >> welould-- i would like to add to that and to say something that's a little contrary. but i have a habit of being contrary. i'well known for that. the-- john, i think, would want
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to be more focusedtter movement one ut the things he loved about martin lr king is that main's mind would organize things and ideas and goals and what it is we're trying to do. he admired that, that sharpness. and en, one of the things that he learned in a life in litics was that if-- if you want something, you have to pick what you want and then figure out a strategy to get that. and i think he would find that he'd like the black lives tter-- and did-- movement because it's nonviolent. ad it's a protest movemen we know that nonviolent protest is an esntial ingredient of politics. yoknow, he knew that. he lived by that. but he would also worry about whether the movement would complish anything because he would be worri about the diffused nature of it and whether it could persist and to
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flow. and also, while he would urge people to vote, and certainly d -- and he was a politician, he wanted them to vote for him and other peoplehe like him iould-- he believed that you have to do t mon vote. you have to be involved in protest. you have to be involved incc holding peoplentable, that otherwise you're not going to that was his history. he knew that as a matter of history, and he knew tt as a matter of reality. so, i think that if he were giving a message, you know, over and over again to the black lives matter movement and to the people of this country who want change and who want juste, that's the message he would give. >> sreenivasan: i mean, i just-- even more recently, it was just a few years ago after the-- the pulse nightclub shootings that he had that sit-in in-- in congress. he wasn't done. i mean, it was-- it was just remarkable to think that even at his age, he was corralling
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members of congress to organize and protest. what is the thing that you're going to remember about him most, charlayne? >> well, you know, john was undeterred by any obstacle. he just kept on keeping onel because heved, as martin luther king did, that the moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends towards justi. and he was prepared, willing and hele to walk that moral arc from all those places he took the first blow for freedom as he got off a bus and got knocked down and got knock unconscious, but he kept on walking.k and i that's his legacy. john is one of the pioneers in our struggle to make america be what it can be. and that is a place that he, john, and martin luther king and all of the rest them said is e place where you will b judged not by the color of your
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skin-- because, remember, e movement was interracial, and white people dd for us just as black people did. so, this country must follow this notion that-- well, this principle that we must all be judged not by the color of our skins but by the content of our character. that is the message i think tha john ithink he's sending it to me right now. ( laughs ) >> well-- and i certainly hope that the day will come when that wille true with all of us. and-- but i think what i remember about him-- i remember a lot, but the main thing that sticks imy mind always is that he was principled. he never gave up on his principles. he found a way. heas like the energizer bunny. he just kept going and going and going. i'd see him just going and going and going and always sticking to his principles. >> sreenivasan: all right, professor mary frances berry ana che hunter-gault, thank
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you both. >> thank you. >> thank you. great to be with you.es >> >> sreenivasan: for mof on the lifehn lewis and his civil rights legacy, visit www.pbs.org/newshour. >> sreenivasan: for a second day e in a row, the u.s. had man 70,000 covid-19 infections across the country yesrday. as cases rise in the majority of states, some officials are reimposing restrictions to prevent the spread florida announced more than 10,000 new infections y, and 90 deaths. testing has increased, but the percent of positive cases has also been rising, almost doubling on average over the last month. thme areas in hard-hit soun florida are now under night-time curfews. that includes the tourist stination of miami beach where officials have struggled to enforce social distancing and mask-wearing among some visitors. in texas, officials announcedur the consecutive day of more than 10,000 confirmed new
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cases yesterday. in san annio, refrigerated trucks have been deployed next to hospitals as mporary morgues. florida and texas are among 18 states identified byhite house coronavirus task force as being "red zones," meaning they had more than 100 new cases per 100,000 people last week. that's according to an unpublicized document obtained by the center for public integrity this week. in it re recommendations forne the "red" states to close bars and gyms and ask residents to wear masks at all time. globally, the number of confirmed coronavirus infections hit a rerd high yesterday, according tohe world health organization.th e are now more than 14 million confirmed cases andly near 600,000 deaths, according to researche at johns hopks university. in sou africa, the country's 337,000 cases make up nearly half the total cases on th irican continent. and as cases riss on pace to become a top five country affected by the pandemic. despite an early lockdown in b
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march enforcedy the army, the country has become a hot mot in the lath. in response, south africa's president reimposed a nightly curfew and an alcohol ban earlier th week. in india, several cities were put under lockdown this weekend after the number of comed infections topped one million. india is only behind the united states and brazil in confirmed cases.al experts warn that numbers will continue to risin india as testing increases, which will strain a health system that is already at or near capacity. a peak in coronavirus cases in india may not come for months. and in iran, president hassan rouhani, citing an unpublished imhealth ministry study, eed the coronavirus has infected 25 million iranians. that number is exponentially higher than the ministry's ficial tally of 271,000 cases. rouhani didn't explain what the new estimate was based on andd uranians to take the virus seriously.ir starting today reinstated restrictions on some public spaces like coffee shops, zoos,
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and pools. >> sreenivasan: as we reflect on john lewis' civil rights legacy amid the on-going demonstrations in support of black lives matter, author mikki kendall says it's also time for a moment of reckoning for modern-day feminism. her book, "hood feminism: notes from the women that a movement forgot," is a new york best seller and addresses the issues surroundi. black femini newshour weekend's christopher booker has more. >> reporte despite having itten extensively about gender, intersectionality and sexual assault, writer mikki kendall considers herself only an occasional feminist. in her most recent writing, the "hood feminism," k laysller bare just how and why she at times struggles to find coon cause with modern feminism. >> hood feminism is the feminist working class of people who live in inner cities, rural communities, who absolutely have
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to make way out of no y, regardless of jargon-- you know, the banner buzz words. and it's not that identity doesn't matter, it's that survival comes first. if you've never had to worry about hunger or homelessness or any of these other things, if you think of them as separatees ishat affect those amorphous people over there because your world is one in which you're focused on how to be a c.e.o., you're focused on how to get promoted, you're focused on how to be president, ose are the needs you make feminism about. and it's not that those things couldn't theoretically be important, but it means then that you're althnating all of other people who are saying, "hey, over here. food stamps, clean water, safe housing," right. and so, it becomes a thing where might e not necey theoudest people with the greatest need. >> reporter: how and why has this been absent from dern coersation that surrounds >> i think because, for a lot of people, they don't have to think about it, right.
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we've created this narrative. "colorblindness" is what we cali itt. that's supposed to be the goal. well, if we're ignoring race, cool. except race impacts literally evything in american society, right. , d yet, race is supposed to be a social construt it's a social contract with plenty of teeth. so, then, we get into this place where your race is a predictor of your class. and therefore, if you are not below the poverty line, near the poverty line and if no one in your family, your ime social circle is, you can really narrow your focus into what impacts you. >> reporter: how has social media changed the way you are approaching this conversation oa ng in the conversation? >> a lot of these conversations were happening in private. now, they're happening in public they're happening on social media, and then because they're happening in a way where it's you know, i'm old enough to remember before the internet, and, in 1992, i would not have
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isen able to talk to a fem in egypt about their concerns ih the wa i can now. i would not have been able to have a back and forthit conversationsomeone in india about feminism and women, girls' education, anfact that educated girls uplifted the entire economy regardless of where you are in the world in a two-second interaction. but now, you can have that conversation 24 hours a day. >> reporter: given the dynamics of all of this, is it possib for mainstream finism to expand the sphere of concern? >> i absolutely think it's possible. i think it's necessary, actually, because as-- as the wealth gap grows, as income inequality and all of these other things are growing, we're hitting a situation where feminism is going to really want all of these communities to show up, to vote with it, to do all of these things. people are not altruistic engh to hope that supporting white
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women willventually trickle down to women of color or communities of color. how feminist are we if we're not looking out for the people who build these institutions andd sustaiat wealth? you know, "lean in" worked toma some people a c.e.o., but i think we've got, what, 30 women c.e.o.s or somhing like that-- maybe 300-- in the entire country. elthat's not a number that. at some point, we have to talk about the fact that women are slightly more than half of the world's pulation, and, in most places, are getting almost nowhere in terms of ongoing, sustainable equality. not to say that there are places s,that are better than othut we're doing this where "two steps forward, one step back" dance with actual equality. >> sreenivasan: finally tonight, flags are flying at half-staff today on all federal bgs to honor representative john
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lewis who died yesterday. and the tributes continue to po in. we'll have more on john lewis' that's all for thiion ofogram. pbs newshour weekend. for the latest news updates, visit www.pbs.org/newshour. i'm hari sreenivasan. thanks for watching. have a good night. captioning sponsored by wnet captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org >> s newshour weekend is made possible by: sue and edgar wachenheim iii. the anderson family fund. bernard and denise schwartz. pthe cheryl and philstein family.ba ara hope zuckerberg. charles rosenblum. we try to live in the moment, to not miss what's right in front of us.
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