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captioning sponsored by newshour productionsllc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, the infections incase-- the rise in covid cases across the south and west conties unabated. we talk to republican senatorue david of georgia about the troubling surge. then, hunger crisis-- the head of the world food program discusses feeding the exponentially expanding number of people in need. and rethinking college-- the pandemic's persistence forces colleges and universities toer reconsid their plans for in- person classes this fall. >> we're very concerned about whether there are enough procedures and picies in place to keep everyone safe. >> woodruff: all that and more
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>> the john s. and james l knight foundation. fostering informed and engaged communities. more at kf.org. of these institutions:support pr >> thiram was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributionsur pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. woodruff: covid-19 infections andeaths are still climbing tonight in much of the nation. t that, n, is fueling negotiations on an economic rescue package, as it reshapes the political landscape. congressional correspondent lisa desjardi begins our coverage. >> reporter: at the currentep enter of the nation's covid-19 battle: dire news of caseads becoming death toll.
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for the first time, florida report more deaths tn anyst othee. in tallahassee, governor ron desantis tried to ease concern >> floridians, i think there's a lot of anxiety and fear out there and i think folks were going to be able to geugh it. >> reporter: this as washington shifted from summer recess to sudden, high gear on the next covid relief bill. all sides agree on the urgency. also know that both sides want to get it done. go to phase four, i think war going to get it done. >> reporter: but there is deep divide over what to do. republican senators don't yethe agree on t plan, but have said it would be about a trillion or more in spending. a few, like kentucky republican senator rand paul, say the spending has gotten out of control. >> they're talking about t spending anothllion dollars. it's fiscally irresponsible and they should be ashamed of
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themselves. >> reporter: democrats in thess house already their plan in may, the sweeping $3 trillion "heroes act." >> the coronavirus is a once in y century pandemic that requires a once in a centaningful congressional intervention. that is what we did when we passed the "heroes act," that is the type of agreement we need th pass at moment. >> reporter: a solid deal isf, still far of with additional sticking pointbetween republican senators and the white house, which sent chief of staff mark meadows to the hill for talks toy. press secretary kayleigh mcenany outlined some of the president's priorities: add a payroll tax cut, and block any additional testing money for states. >> we're willing to put in money for targeted testing that makes sense, not just dumping money $10 billion.hat already contains >> reporter: some republicans on the hill voiced concern over that. >> i think we want to be sure in dealing with the administration that the money we put into testing already is stillav
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ailable if it hasn't been spent. we want to continue to focus on. te >> reporter: and majority leader mitch mcconnell again marked his red li moving forward in negotiations. >> i won't put a bill on the floor that doesn't have liability protection in it. don't mischaracterize what this is about. this is not just for businesses. for spitals, doctors, nursessa >> reporter: h a bill will come in the next few days, that will also include another round of direct payments to americans. >> woodruff: lisa was at the capital today following the negotiations and she joins me now. we understand there's disagreement up there, but talk abouthe first there's agreement. what do we think is going to be in this bill probay for sure? >> reporter: it's important to talk about that. because is is a bill that
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could get the american economy through the next however many months. we don know how many. first of all there is agreement let's look at a graphic quickly on a few things. one, there should b other round of small business funds known as ppp that's program that has kept so many small business going during this part of the pandemic.e that looks lt will be renewed, we don't know what degree other round of stimulus checks also, not sure holarge those checks will be it's possible they may go to fewer american, ey may be more targeted but it lock like that is something that most of congress agrees on. alsoelps schools, that's a new item that is now entering discussion and is creating a great deal of urgency on bothoo sides as s are trying to reopen in just a few weeks. congress is now figuring out hw try and fund schools that want to open and those that want to g only online. it's a very large debate. >>skoodruff: let me you now about some of the differen difference. as you pointed out thus
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passed their version of this back at the end of may. wh are the main difference between what the house wanted and what the senate likely to do.or >> rr: you know, i have to say this negotiation is maybe more complicated has more issues in it than o anyer. there are a few that we can point to as top level issues. let's look at what the priorities are that the two sides disagree on. first, four democrats are one of meeir priorities is that expan expanded unempl benefits, $600 per week for each person above what they would normally get. that benefit runs out july 3 1 in just a couple weeks democrats want to extend it through the end of the year for neryone o unemployment. republicans, their priority as you heard from leadernn mcl, liability protection for businesses. now, this gets a little bitmp cated, but he essentially wants to make sure that no business can be sued for someone getting theei virus or harmed by the virus who used
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that busines. at is something they say is critical to them. he says some 3,000 lawsuits have been filed over the pandemic so far. others say they're not sure if this is priority that it needs to be. >> woodruff: lisa, whatbout what's next. republicans have said that they might have a draft plan as as today, what's it look loo eing like now? >> we are e inraordinary times it was extraordinary day at the capitol today. i stood outside the senate republican lunch, where republicans were meeting with the chief of staff and treasury secretary idea they were supposed to all get on board their plan for wt to do about ts virus. what to do about our economy and instead, judy, they walked out with less agreement than they had going in. when you talk to people in the room they said that there wer were -- instead of one or two ideas, 50 ideas. many senators bringing up billions of dollars, maybe for the hotel indusy, for another industry in their state that
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they are divided amemongst lves and judy, they are also divided with their president. thepresident is asking specifically for the payroll tax cut. that isomething most republicans and most democrats disagree with, republicansnd beclosed doors, difficult to break with the president even though they're startin publicly state that. one other area, judy, where there is disagreement amongst republicans with their president is on ting. let's look at a graph. the white house has sent mixed signals sayin m it supporte testing, but not a great deal of it. they feel like there'smo y already that could be used for it. most senate republicans disagree with that. they say there is no more money left they are proposing right now about $5 billion for testing to help states get more tests tout you and i everyone in the country. house democrats propose $75 million for testing,hey say republicans don e go farugh. judy, democrats met with the
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reblicans including white house chief of staff late today, to tell youhere things are, democrats walked out of that meeting say republicans have no plan. they are in disarray was the word that house speaker nancy pelosi used, we can't negotiate with them. we have a plan,on they, we need republicans to tell us where they stand. >> woodruff: so much important material herefoo ow. lisa, given all this, when can americans look f something final to come out? >> reporter: well, this is eall part of egislative process, of course. we've been through dramatic and downs on many issues. the deadline that many are watching is that ly 31st deadline for unemployment benefits to end. that is when millions of americans will see $600 less per week, that could affect things like rent immediately in augt. also, judy, schools planning to reopen in the first week of august are waiting for money. they are saying to congress they need some ate least s guidance
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on what is going to happen. congress had hoped tond ask by of next week, now because of the republicans stilleeming to form their plan, i have to say it look like early august is when i think we could see thisol package get through congress. who knows, things changeto daay. >> woodruff: a lot of people watching this very, very osely closely, lisa desjardins we thank you. >> woodruff: we'll speak to a leading republican lawmaker in just a moment. but first, let's hear from some of t people who stand to be directly impacted by the legislation at hand. two of the major sticking points lisa just mentioned-- extending unemplment benefits past the vid of the month, and protecting businesses from related lawsuits-- are at the top of many people's minds. >> so, i own a small taproom focused brewery just outside o atlanta in evandale estates, georgia. d we've been open just a year now. so it's quite an interesting
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year going through aandemic. we have not been able to hire people to come and work in the kitchen because they are making more money now with the ditional $600 that's coming from the federal government than they were making previously. so they don't have an incentive to come to work d they are happy to stay at home while they're able to collect thislo paycheck versuing for employment. >> i currently live in louisville, kentucky. i actually had a full time and part time job, i worked in the hotel instry as my part time job and in the healthcare industry as a payroll team supervisor wn i became furlough as of may 2. to simply... stereotype, excuse me, stereotype us as being that we all are sitting at home and we just wanto collect a check and eat bonbons, that is not right. there are some people that arepa gettin more. i can't speak for them, but for me, myheck, the extra six
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dollars is comparable to what i was getting id prior to being furloughed and laid off. so the $600, i'm not saying i'm getting paid extra. i wish that was the case, but i'm not. and i would love to go back to a job and be more stable. >> i own and i'm the general manager with my business of loco d'oro restaurant, an italian restaurant in austin, texas. we need cess to more jobs. we need grants and/or loans. we need x, tax rebates and tax credits. liability protection puts no money in my pocket, puts no money in my employees pocks, does not create any work for, for our restaurant or for the people who work in our restaurant, and i know that senator mcconnell has said he will not pass anything that doesn't include liability protection. and if he is going to sacrifice all of the things that all thess small busi in this country need to be able to make it
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through this reduced revenue, reduced capacity world to protect employers who are taking risks, that is a wildly misplaced priority. >> i think having some stated protections would help any business, and in particular, a a small business owner, i can't imagine how i would defend case if a staff member did try to sue us because they had contracted the virus while working. so, yeah, i would definitelye in favor of seeing some sort of liability protection put info placbusinesses, obviously, with the stipulation that the business was following the current guidelines. >> woodruff: as we hear, all eyes are now on congor covid relief. let's turn now to republican
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senator david perdue of georgia. senator, thank you so much for joining us. we just heard reporting from our disagreements still among senatb t what to do. speaker pelosi, senator schumer say republican are in disarray. are you in disarray? >> i lisned to most of that, i lovely saw, but that was a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that room today. act, different components that we've had. $.9 trillion, by the way, only abou two trillion has been fully allocated. we have a trillion dollars yet to flow into the economy. there are several key points we want to see how that is received and impacted the business worlda also our hos and schools. we produced seven million new jobs between last halfof may and month of june. the economy is beginning to open up again. we need to follow the protocols right now are priorities tot
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support not only the opening of our businesses, but also the r reopening of our schools, more hospitals, what owe don't want t do turn this into a binary coersation between liabilitypr ection and bailing out our most financially troubled states. you're going to seeth plan roll out, $5 billion for ed cakes and will be some other things coming in t days. few >> woodruff: so you're saying let me just ask you, you know the house voted its plan out $3 trillion at the end of may you're still debating this in the senate. it's almost the end of july. why is it that republicans of the sen at ime have been able to come together with majority republicans? >> i just said that the reason that we purposely did this, we id it back then, when we talked about it a month ago. we want to see how fou first of cares act, 2.9 trillion not
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only economy but ouschools and our hospitals. we're beginning to have a better vision of that right now, we still, have almost a milon dollars that haven't fled to the f onomy. a plote money in hospitals and our communities have already been disbursed that is one we're reopeningools is such anity. emotional issue, we're looking at that very carefully. and ppp we still have almost $140 billion that has not beenal cated that went to that. main street program just now going out. the fac that this being reported as an artificial delay, we can't get our act together is a gross misrepresentation of what we're doings proper, prudent oversight of what we've already allocated. >> what about something that is about to run out, that is un unemployment benefits including additional benefits of $ of600 a week. those run out at the end of ju july, that iro ten daysnow.
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where does that stand? >> first of all, judy, the representation that unemployment benefits run out is not correct. what happens -- >> woodruff: the additional -- >> the premium, the $600 premi premium, i can tell you in my state the number thone thin is holding us back from opening up a lot of small businesses further than ty are isact that they're having trouble getting people to come back to work because of this premium our state they do get a premium that many of the people who are working gethat premium. i believe that going forward we've got reopening the economy, follow the protocols, in my state, particularly, that doesn't include a premium that we've just done to help in the worse time. we're moving past that now and the thing is putting money where it needs to be, looking at may reprogramming some of the money that hasn't already been used in the first round of cares. >> woodruff: two very quick questions about this cov relief. i do want to ask you about schools. one is, the president wants to cut payroll taxes. are you in favor of that
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>> i think payroll tax is one way to do it. i do support that. i support that better than giving just a direct payment like we did in t fir round of cares. i really oppose that, because we didn't see the impact back in '11 and '12 when it was done. this thing is in senti to the tax structure, i do support as business guy i think that does work. it needsgeo be td, it needs to be short term it need to be focused on the immediate needs in the next few day months >> woodruff: your proposal on school, k-12 schools to help for reopening.ith the best p as you know a number of teachers about the rush to reopen.rned how much does your plan take into consideration the -- i know both of your parents are teachers. >> thank you, judy. that is very sensitive to me. it's a tough decision by loc administrators, i believe that decision is made by the local
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rents, teachers and administration. that is why he'sushing it down to the state level. that is a very emotional thing. i've been on the phone with superintendants and principals day. what we're trying to do is give them some help.ut we have a 105 billion coming in this next round potentially for k-12 and also oucolleges. in k-12, to think, if we're working parents are going back to work we've got to find a way to safely take care of the education of our children. about half the schools, so far many schools are doing hybrid program right now they get more clarity. but more testing, ppe, integration with health care, getting a database to know what is going on in those schools and getting a summary ofhat. these are all thing that make common sense to try to help these administrators make good decisions about protecting kids, home to.ay, families they g
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>> many of the largest school districtin the state of georgia are saying they are not going to go back,rt s the fall semester with in-person classes. are they making a mistake? >> i couldn't gung that, judy. i don't think anybody can. i trust the local ainistrator and parents and teachers to make those decisions, it's going t vary county by county. they all have a little different formula about how they're doing it. i don't want to politicize, i don't think it's being politicized right now in many of the counties. these people are trying to maked earnest thoughtful decision. priority is taking our children and their families also reope reopeng economy and make sure that we don't have these kids lose significant portions of th year in terms much education. regimen treatment and a vaccine are all integrated into this effort to open the economy, get our schools moving again and get us backom to sort of normalcy here.
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it's impossible. >> woodruff: very quick finales on. you mentioned testing in schoo s schools. some members of your republican colleagues think there should be more money spent on testing, what do you think? >> we were told today by secretary treasurer that we have plenty of money available do that. i do not resist spending more money on testing. we gotwo groups o there, two control groups. u.s. military and our essential workers. military is following general order nuwher one right noh is a biohazard protocol. we know it works.th r infection rate and infection rate of essential workers is lower than the rest of us. i believe in more testing, whatever it takes. s've been told the money there, if it's not, we'll appropriate more money for it. >> woodruff: senator david perdue of georgia. thank you very much for talking with us. >> thanks, judy.
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>> woodruff: in the day's other department charged that hackers working with china have targeted covid-19 vaccine.research on a two chinese nationals were o indicted as paa broader scheme going back ten years. they'ralso accused of stealing weap designs, drug information and even chineseissidents. >> china has now taken its place alongside russia iran and north korea in that shameful club of nations that provide a safe haven for cyber criminals in exchange for those criminals to be on call for the benefit of the state. >> woodruff: these are the first criminal charges involving attempts to steal covid vaccine data, but they are mainly symbolic. the chinese suspects remain at large, and federal officials concede they are not likely to be arrested. the europeannion approved a tean today worth $2.1 trillion to help member sthrough
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the pandemic recession. after a marathon, four-day meeting in germany, the bloc's strongest nations agreed to share the debt. weaker states will get grants that do not have to be repaid. the package must still be ratified by all 27 e.u. members. in ohio the speaker of the state use-- republican larry householder-- and four other mes were ad as part of a $60- million bribery scheme. it's believed to be the largest money laundering operation in ohio's history. the scheme resulted in a rough $1-billion financial rescue for two the state's nuclear pow plants. president trump's threat to send federal agents to chicago and other cities is still rerberating tonight. he says big cities with democratic mayors have let protests turn violent. and acting secretary of homeland security chad wolf ved today that "we will not retreat." but new yorkayor bill de
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blasio said the ci will fight back, if it comes to that. >> thipresident blusters and bluffs and says he's going to do things and they neverri maize on a regular basis. so first, we should not overrati statements. they are so often not true. second, ife tried to do it, it would only create more problems, it would backfir it wouldn't make us safer, a we would immediately take action in court to stop it.f: >> wooederal agents are already in portland, oregon, and last night they fired tear gas at protesters, who pulled down fencing at the federal courthouse from military bases. president trump hashreatened to veto over that provision. the president is also trying to block the 2020 census from cou counting people who are in the u.s. illegally.
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he signed a memorandum today that says they should be excluded. the u.s. supreme court already blocked efforts to add a citizenship ques census.he opponents of today's move say they will go to court again. the democrats' presidential nominee-to-be, joe biden, has rolled out another big piece of his economic recovery plan. he called today for spending $775 billion over ten yearon elderly care, pre-schoolnd programsther priorities. he said it would create three million jobs, and thatdent trump has no plan of his own. >> for all his bluster about his expertise on the economy, he isn le to explain how he'll actually hp working families hit the hardest. you know, he's quit on you, and he's quit on this country. >> woodruff: the former vice president is also warning of swift retaliation ainst an nation that tries to meddle in the 2020 election. in britain a committee of parlment reports the
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government largely ignored possible russian interference in the brexit referendum. it says officis refused to investigate the allegations. the 2016 vote approved thebr k-up with the european union. the report acknowledges it is "difficult, if not impossible, to prove that russian meddlingfl nced the outcome." and, on wall street, investorson focuseopes for more economic recovery aid fromss cong the dow jones industrial average was up 159 points to close at 26,840.sd the fell 86 points, but, the s&p 500 added 5 points. >> woodruff: athe pandemic tears across the globe, the toll
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ethiopia, d.r.c. and let me keep goin country to country. nigeria.4% 98%, 9f their export revenues is oil. oil prices have tanked. compound th with boko haram and militancy, the sahel. and so as you start breaking it down country by country. and then now understand you, like in the caribbean and ceral america. we're coming into the hurricane and cyclone season. we're into the lean season in soh sudan now, which means flooding and droughts already on top of a ry desperate situation. and so the numbers are beginning to spike. we're seeing econom deterioration. we're seeing supply disruption. you remember just a few weeks, few monthsgo in the united states, people were panicking, just trying to get toilet paper. you can imagine if that happens in one of the most sophisticated supply chain systems in the happening in, in c d.r.c.is
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or somalia? just imagine the disruption of the availability of food. and these people don't have a pantry full of food. they live literally day to day om hand to mouth.gr and so if you do a lot down in an area, it is devastating. so if we're not there wi with a safety net program for people in th situation, you'rehi talking about mass starvation. you're talking about potentialhs of mass migration. and/or you're also talking abou itdeep stabilization, palan and risk, violence in an extraordinary way.fl so the cost will be a lot morefe than it will if we come in andn address it on the front end.s >> reporter: you mentioned thosc suppin disruptions, of otou ry hoseetarre seeing thato. the food and means you have the planes to fly.at the man that you have althyca workers on the ground to move the supplies. you've got trucks to drive them around and delivethem. w every supply chain has beenfo
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disrupted.th have you worried, even if you t get the money coming in now, cac you get it where it needs to goo >> yes. in fact, this is a significant and very serious issue. we've got the supply chain we're doing that very well, but because the airline industry has all but shut down with passengers and cargo, you can't move covid supplies. so, while we've been le to move our food supplies in a pretty good way, thoug there are hiccups and issues, the covid supplies can't get there from testing kits to ventilators to mask and p.p.e. and let me just keep ing. well, we are picking up thatce logistics sero we are now the logistics, humanitarian backbone for the entirenited nations systs from who, unicef, u.n.h.c.r., i.o.m., ette , and all the n.g.o.s. and if we don't have the money for thatand that's money that w.f.p. needs to help all agencies around the worl it is critical that we have that
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money and we have it now.an n d quite frankly, we run out of that money in about three weeksr >> repodavid beasley, you're asking for billions of dollars to help keep those tensl of millions of people from starvation, e u.s. is facing a deep recession in economies around the world areco racting. how do you convince world leaders right now that this is something they need tst in, turn their resourcesur towards? >> you know the response so far has been amazing. quite frankly, it's been shocking in the united states senatend the house. i've been talking with republicans and democrats, and though they're fighting on erything, when it comes to food aid and international feseign support and these t of issues, because they understand it's in the nationalr sey interests of the american people. and i know in the europeanapped. community is, we're making the case, if you don't help us now, it's going to cost you. and let me give an example of this ongoing. in the syrian war we would feed a syrian for about 50 cents a day.
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hed that's almost double the normal rate, but it's a war zone and the logistics of costs are higher. that same syrn who does not want to leave syria, but if thei don't have food and any degree of peace, they'll do what any mom and dad would do. they will get their children to a place where they can feed. their famili so if that family ends up in berlin or brussels, it's not 50 cents a day. the humanitarian support package is 50-100 ros per y. so it's a hured times the normal cost. and quiterankly, we when we feed about 100 million people, they don want to leave home. they really want to be in theira home. t doesn't matter whether it's guatemalar whether it's in nigeria or whether it's in syria. ople generally don't want to leave home. and so, if we're there for them with a safetnet program in this time of crisis, i believe we can avert famine. we can avert mass migration and destabilization. but we need the money.
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not next year, but we need it right now. >> reporter: crisis on top ofep another crisis. at is david beasley, executive director of the world food program.so thank you uch for your time. >> thank you. >> woodruff: we call our ries on higher education "rethinking college" for a number of reasons, but this summer colleges are literally retnking everything. roughly half of the colleges an hari sreenivasan reports on a pair of schools currently taking fall.rent approaches for thet >> reporter: collegetr adminisators-- and their legal teams-- have spent months crafting reopening plans. carefully spaced seatincharts; daily temperature checks; frequent testing; and threats of expulsion for those hostingst large parties. full stadiums cheering for the home team this fall-- unlikely,
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but most of america's higher ed institutions are pushing ahead with plans for some form of in- person instruction. >> i'm pleased to publicly announce today our intention anr plan to rto in-rson class. >> reporter: that's dr. robert robbins at the end pril. dr. robbins is a rdiothoracic surgeon, but also the president of the university of arizona in tucson. the public university typicallyl e about 44,000 students. it has been promoting its "test, aace, and treat" plan, a high-profile reopening tsk force led by former u.s. sugeon general richard carmona, who is a long-time faculty member. make no mistake, cases and deaths are increasing. during a virtual briefing, dr. carmona and dr. robbins raised serious concerns about the huge spike in arizona's covid-19 cases, and indicated current plans to offer a mix of in-person and remote learning may have to change. >> how many in-personre interactionse gonna have? it may be zero.: >> reportspoke with dr.
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robbins soon after that briefing. >> i'm very, very concerned about having our university open. certainly today we wouldn't dort it. >> reporter: what's the level of responsibility that the university has? right, i'm a parent right now, n m about to send rising sophomore fresh your campus. they get sick or worse. what happens? sw yeah, that's a good question, i don't have an to. we're no different than any other university who's trying to balance the risk of bringing students back to their campus versus the benefit of them getting continuing their abducation and giving the ility to do that with their colleagues >> reporter: the university says nearly 70 on campus have testedr positivehe coronavirus since testing began in march. dr. robbins hopes amany as half of the faculty will voluntarily return to in-person instruction, but some staff whop kehe university running have
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less flexibility to remain at t home. those and other concerns are causing some on campus tpush back on reopening plans. >> we're very concerned about whether there are enough to keep everyone safe.in place >> reporter: journalism associate professor ce gonzalez de bustamante says a small group shrepresents-- the did a survey thatd most oftice-- faculty, staff, and grad students, who responded, were uncomfortable returni to campus. many faculty are older which puts them at greater risk forpu serious complications from covid. bustamante says she and herue colleshare concerns, raised at other schools, that universities are prioritizing the wrong things. >> the decisions that are being made are being driven by the finances, the financial situation, and keep trying to keep the university of arona financially solvent, which itna it has a double a's rating.
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>> reporter: the school's tuition will remain the same next year. drrobbins admits money is factor, but not the onlfactor. >> it's very clearly one of the drivers.re th no question about it. we're the largest employer in southern arizona. 've already had a few layoffswe here. a couple of hundred, as a matter of fact.at and so, the economics of things drive it, but not primarily. >> reporter: but it's not just faculty raising concerns. >>l am stressed, i am ff oming nior armando gavin ramirez tucson native. four members of his extended family have died of covid-19.mi he says he has underlying health issues and can't afford health w insurance so l likely stay home, but he feels the school hat't provided enough supp for students who have struggle with remote learning. c >> i haveputer that audio sometimes works and sometimes ie sn't. i have the internet that crashes
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at least twice a day, right. wil the university be offeringin computers? will we be helping establis better internet connections? will they provide the technological lead for the students to be able to succeed a in an online environment for an entire semester? >> reporter: another question that looms large beyond the university of arizona: for those who do decide to return to campus, will social distancingca work? tanfections have already sed spreading at different campuses across the country recent coronavirus outbreaks at several schools, includinthe university of washington and u.c. berkeley, have been tied to fraterny houses. planning to return to campus at all. one of them is paul quinn college, a small, religiously filiated, historically black college in dallas, texas, another state grappling with coronavirus. >> i think the first thing that you have to ask yourself stnestly is can you keep your
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students and youf safe? >> reporter: michael sorrell is the school's president. his school is keeping the same tuition as last year, but lowering other cos by more than $2,000 as students continue with remote learning. he says the risks of the new virus outweigh the benefits of cudents returning to campus, especially for tmunity of students he serves. >> to the extent that something to the tune of 98% of ourun students are of color and those are the communities that are being ravaged, at a disproportionate amount this virus, then absolutely we feel that we owe an additional lel of concern and care. >> reporter: are you concerned that people who are writing the checks are going to say, you know, this online education doesn't seem like what i signed up for and what i paid for. >> yes. i'm absolutely concerned that people will make a different w dision. if you're making a different decision then here's what you are rejting: an institution
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that put you first.t tys your health and safety and well-being was of such concern to us that we were r willing to change ouonomic model to ensure your safety. incoming senior carnealous manning says like many studentsn he'd to reo campus for his last year, but beyond personal health concerns, hworries what an outbreak would do to the college he loves. >> for a small institution like outbreak could bemental tovid our brand and really just the mission of the institution. >> reporter: back in tucson, preparations continue f some students, staff, and faculty to return to campus in late august. dr. robbins will be announcing his final decision on what thatl reopeninglook like by the end of this month. for the pbs newshour, i'm hari sreenivasan. >> woodruff: the coronavirus
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pandemic has dealt a huge blow to the music industry. concerts as we knew them were one of the first things to benc canceled and will be among the last to restart. and in a recent survey of small jeffrey brown s our lo, part f our ongoing arts and culture series, "canvas." ♪ ♪se >> reporter: derrick jones, better known by his stageame," nice," calls it "club quarantine." ♪ ♪ a creative responsborn of necessity in march when covid-19 brought live music perfmances to a stop. >> i'm used to interacting with people and feeling energy fm people, i mean, you can drop are hocord and you can watch theow go crazy. well, how do you, you know, do that online? >> reporter: arominent hip hop producer, rapper, and d.j. who's used to playing live in clubsld around the wohe now performed from home, on instagramive, spinning records for hours, mixing in artists, watching the digital
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crowd swell, from a few hundred to more than 100,000 around the. wor >> oh, my god, michelle obama is michelle obama isere! >> reporter: including celebrities as eager as everyone else for a dance party.s what d do for you in terms of reaching an audience? because it's really a totallywa differenof interactingen with an audience, right? >> oh,totally. i just started reading the comments and i would just pay attention to what they were saying and the energy that they were feeling. and also there's a feature on instagram where someone is, if hateone is appreciating you're doing or saying or enjoying that conversation, they will constantly hit the hrt button.wi i just kept seeing hearts flying every time i would play a song, hearts were just flying. and that wathe energy that iwa was feeling. honestly, it is one the most exciting feelings that i've had recently in terms of d.j.-ing. >> reporter: the pandemic has>>
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devastated the world of the arts, with concert halls, clubs and theaters shut down, and forced a different kind of survival-mode creativity. ♪ ♪ more recently, live has returnem in led ways, including at some drive-in shows.di the auce in or near their cars, distanced from one another. ♪ ♪ the rock band spafford was one of the firsto try a drive- concert in the u.s., in mesa, arizona, in may. covid-19 had cut short the band's nationwide tour in march. in the months following, they held zoom calls, practiced in their homes, and came up with plans for the drive-in show. brian moss is spafford's guitarist. you were probably worried about when you would get up there at all, right? so there you were.ha andhappened? >> it felt totally new. you know, i was i was playing a
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g chord and i was like, man, this is just the best sounding g chord i could ever play. like, every no had a differentch feeling. it felt like i was re learningnb how to play ind, like all over again. and it was totally vulnerable. and it's that's kind of where i want to be when i'm on the stage, because that's where the risks hpen and that's where the fun starts. >> reporter: a magical moment, and maybe more to come. earlier this month the global entertainment company, live nation put on a three-city drive-in "tour" with big namespa like braley and nelly. but for bands like spafford, isl this a viableion going forward? >> no, it's not necessarily aar way for the band to make up for all the income lost with all of , this is not a way to keep the band financially stable. it won't break us, but the joy of playing music and the joy of. bringing music to our fans is the most important part in something like this. >> reporter: but artists aren't the only ones impacted by thes lost revenue.t >>els like there's a death
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sentence hanging over our industry. >> reporter: dayna frank isrs owner of avenue in minneapolis, a legendary 50- year-old mieapolis club where, among much else, prince rain."med and filmed "purple now it sits empty, its 500 employees dwindled to 20. >> it doesn't surprise me that people are out therehe provide this service and value for their community, but it's not, it's not a revenue stream. it doesn't like, yoknow, it's not a solve for the industry. it's like trying to fill a water.l pool with a drop of you know, it's fun. and like, it provides some distractions and some meaningful doesn't make a bu survive.t itit >> reporter: frank is president w the national independentna venue associatioch formed in april and hired a lobbying firm to press congress for a lifeline. the group now has nearly 2,000 member venues, including many that have made a mark in music story. frank says clubs like hers haveo en economic impacts on their communities.
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she cites a study showing everyo llar spent on a ticket o generatesf economicoc activity for al businessesta like rants, hotels and cabs. but there's even more at ake than dollars. what's lost if a club like your or oth under? >> i can't even-- it's so hard to think about. you lose an entire subset of culture, you lose expes that people maybe didn't even know they could have. you know, we-- our venues, ourur spaces are where people go to y lebrate the best night of their lives, theet their spouses there. they have these like intense emotional and just cultural experiences.at an't be held anyplaceat else. >> reporter: where will the music gofrom here?r: d-nice is still spinning, but wondering what's next. this isn't a substute for a live performance, is it? do you continue on with club quarantine or what happens?
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>> so, i don't think this ia substitute at all, because there's nothing like being in front of a live audience you know, that energy is unmatched. but i don't-- i can't imagine, like, meike, discontinuing any of these performances in the future because i happen to like this, too. i think this is a gre addition. i know that the music is ultimate saving lives, youin know, is, you know, i don't want essential worker, but i know that there are people out here that truly needed is experience to still feel >> reporter: for the pbs newshour, im jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: we turn now to president trump's agenda. he returned to the podium this evening, reinstating covid so,tes. yamiche, i know you were watching and listening.ni what is the news from what the
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president said? >> reporter: well the presidentr held afing that was filled with mixed messaging much he had a stark warning about the virus but also was sharing some misleading information.on the informaaid that things are going to get far worse before they get better which is a stark cake, because he has been down playing sayin it would disappear. but he said that using notes. minutes lat without notes he said actually it will disappear there's no evidence. the president did about face. here is wh he said on the issue of facial coughing.. >> we'reasking everybody that when you are not able to socially distance, wear a mask. get a masksk whether you like the mask or not, they have an impt, theyy will have an impact need everything we can get. thing about patriotism, maybe it helps. it help. now, we have experts that have said in the re past that masks aren't necessarily good to
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wear, you know that. but now they have changed their mind. if they change their mind that'h good enoor me. so i wear it when appropriate. >> reporter: now the president is right that healthfficials including dr. fauci has changed first they were saying don't use facial coughing, now th are saying. he was slower than healthlt wearing masks as result he wea only wore mask in public a few weeks ago. other thing president said that governors don't need anything. when in facte reporting the governorsked vice president mike pence r equipment and testing, they also want resources to try to open upol sc for safely. >> woodruff: separately, yamiche another issue we've been reporting on the trump adminisation sending federal always into portland, oregon, to deal with pertests t, some violence. what are you learning about that tonight?
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>> reporter: there's a lot of backlash that department of homeland security is o receiving because they have been sending federal agents into portland, soregon, peopled this is targeting people protesters, i attended a b wefing todayth a questioned him abovernor ofwolfe oregon saying he spoke to him directly asked him to remove those officials. here is what he said. >> what i would say is if you did your job from those localoc perspective we wouldn't be there, juke we're not ebb any other city with this type of deployment source having to protect other court houses. fact that are there, is because local officials are not taking action. think are not protecting -- not helping to address the situation, ihink that is the key difference. porter: so there you hear him saying that the governor and local businesses are not doing he says that federal officials are protect can federal buildings specifically the courthouse, a lot of people say th a violation of the law
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and constitution here. oter thing to note that he was defending officers not havingng their names onms their unifo as well as using unmarked cars, that's really bng done to protect the officers. but there are a lot of people saying that is not the behaviou that be happening on u.s. soil when it comes to largely peoplerotesting. >> woodruff: finally, very quickly. the white house today threatening to veto defensefe authorization act coming out of the housepr of rentatives, what are you learning about that? >> reporter: this is a major defense bill that sets forth funding priorities for theef department ofse.de the white house is threatening to veto because president has takenissue with the fact that the bill is forcing military bases and milinry installat to rename bases that are named after confederate figures. is saying thatt he doesn't want to back this bill, the house in the last hour passe a veto proof version that have bill, reporting of pbsws "nur" is that we have is
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even if he slows it down won be able to stop it, per se. >> woodruff: all that is vryer important, yamiche. thank you for your reporting. and that is the "newshour" r i'm judy woodruff. join us on-line and again here tomorrow evening.mo for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, pleasfesta sand see you soon.sa fe s >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: >> when the wor gets complicated, a lot goes through your mind. with fidelity wealth management, l dedicated advisor can t advice and recommendations to your life.il that's fidelity wealth management.idel >> consumer clar. johnson & johnson.
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