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♪ judy: goodvening i am judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonht, the wrong direction, authorities attempt to course correction ins pandemic resas covid-19's daily death toll tops 1000 in the u.s. for the fst time today. t then, risingsions. the u.s. orders a chinese consulate in houst closed, alleging theft of data and intellectual property. plus, the hunt for a vaccine as medical developers race ainst the clock. questions remain about the co and deliverybout an in -- an intervention. and, america addicted. the pandemic causes a massive rise in overdoses as people
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struggling with addiction lose access to treatment. >> addiction is a disease of isolation and no one coses to have addiction any more so than anyone chooses to have diabetes or multiple sclerosis. judy: all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour." ♪ >> major funding for the "pbs newshour" has been provided by -- ♪ >> consumerellular, johnson & johnson, financial sces firm raymond james. >> supporting social entrepreneurs and their solutions to the world's most pressing problems.
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>> committed to them -- committed to helping developing countrs. supported by the john and catherine macarthu foundation. committed to a more just world. these institutions --support of this program was made possible by the corporation forc pub broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers le you. thank you. judy: more deaths, more infections and mor restrictions. the spread of the coronavirus pandemic shows no sign of easing and officials are scrambling to
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respond. stephae sy begins our verage. stephanie: the summer surge if infectionss fueling a surge in deaths. more than 10 in 24 hours for the first time in weeks. as of today, california leads the nation and confirmed infections with state officials hoping thecan cope. >> we all look at our initial strategy and try to be prepared number of cases and ensuringhigh that we have this surge capaci in our hospital system.ni step in texas, more than 500 women at a federal medicalrt prison in orth have tested positive, one of the largest prison outbreaks to date. elsewhere, washington,.c ohio and minnesota joined the growing list of governments issuing mandatory mask orders. an the surge has forced mo schools that planned to reopen in the fall to opt for remote instruction instead. all of this as testing delays and shortages in personal protective equipment are, again,
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growing acute. at a house hearing in washington today, the head of the federal emergency management agency pet , gaynknowledged shortcomings. >> the majority of ppe is made offshore, china,ay ma, vietnam. this is a national security issue, ppe. we are seeg how critical that is to protecting lives and minimizing sufferipa. we are on to increase u.s. production in the u.s. stephanie: and, the departmentma of health and services signed a nearly $2 billion dollar contract today with pfizer and a german-led biotech firm for the first 100 million doses of a potential virus vaine by december. but the vaccine has not completed clinical trials, much less been fda-approved. meanwhile in "the new york director of the ceforthe former
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disease control and prevention, warned of critical data gaps in an opinion piece. and, he said the government's lack of coordination is hampering efforts to stop covid-19's spread. on the economic front efforts liefinue to craft a new packag senate republicans remain divided on how much to spend and on what, but there is talk of a short-term extension of unemployment benefits. they are due to expiren july 31. for the "pbs newshour," i'epm nie sy. reported yesterday, many statess are struggling to contain covid e outbreaks. asst heard in stephanie's report, former cdc head dr. tom frieden says, to do that, the country urgently needs much better collection of data. dr. frieden joins me now. he ran thedc from 2009 to 2017, and is now president of "resolve to save lives", a global health initiati.
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thank you so much for talking with us. fore we talk about your plan, let me ask you about testing delays, which we are learning aren't even bigger problem then we realized. what can be done about this? dr. frieden: it is really important to focus on what matters, focus on the number oft tests and hether they are being done in the right way, on the right ople, with the right back.ns taken when they come there are different types of tests out there. the biggest problem arehe large commercial labs. tests that come back five to s seven days or 10 to 14 de of very little use. weear that 700,000 tests are done, that is less relevant than knowing what proportion of tests come back within 24 to 48 hours. we need to focus on what is important so we can improve our response. judy: you are calling in your proposal for the states to do a
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much better job of reporting data, essential data, on this coronavirus outbrk area what is it that is not availableow at is needed that we need to know? dr. frieden: what was really surprising in this analysis, ite is not state's faults. there is not a national standard. the two crucial things we do not have access t what is our personal risk of getting infected with covid if we go out, and how well is our government and society doing in our community to reduce that risk? if we know those things, we can and get bacprove to the new normal. judy: what is it going totake to get tnformation? is this easily gettable, or not? dr. frieden: some of it is. we identified 15 essential indicators. of those 15, 9 are pretty easily achievable.
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most places can get that in some wa some of it needs to be done much better in terms of race, ethnicity, age, other information on cases, hospitalizations and deaths over time. i think we can get some of that information fairly soon. the more important information about how well our response is going, whether tasks -- tests are quick, whether contacts are identified and quarantined before they develop the disease. these are essential measures we need to track and improve to get our society and economy back. if wer get this right, kids will be able to go to school in the fall, back to work, ourll economy ecover, and we will save tens of thousands of lives. butf we are flying blind and do not know how well we are doing, we cannot improve it. judy: i want to quoted dr.ew
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quoted in the ork times"to story. he says he welcomes your proposals but says few spate --h few state the expertise and money needed to generate this data, analyze this data. he says it is a great ideal, b not something many states can realistically do or afford. dr. frieden: bill schaffner is one of myite infectious disease experts. he just about always gets it right. i think he is correct. states are looking at an enormous challenge. the data feeds coming in our complex, not necessari accurate. there is a problem with duplicating patients. the cdc sent out more tha s$10 billion te and local health departments. congress this week is debating the next some clement of -- supplemental appropriation. there is a need for improved
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systems allr, otate, county and federal.te many shave some of this information and most states can get most of it. judy: i think some people may be listening to this and say, is this a matter of asking questions, putting information into a computer? it does notou that difficult. what do you say to that? dr. frieden: one of t challenges is how heterogeneous our hyslth carem and laboratory system is in this country. one health system might get information from hundreds or ifthousands ofrent providers in hundreds or dozens of different formats in different time frames. in my organization we have worked with one state tost amline that information. to duplicate it is hard. does not mean it should not be done. amthe other part pro information. it is about the b we are doing.
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contact tracing, reaching patients, telling them they are infected, offering services. that requires a large number of highly trained people, digease inveors, people who have a skilgeation of social work skills to help people with covid and their contacts. judy: a spokesperson for the cdc is saying, we are already doing this. we are already in touch with th 14 of 15 do the measurements you are calling for. they are saying they are almost dr. frieden: what we seen the da from publicly available websites is not a single state in the country had most of these indicators up. moston states in the countr had about 1/5 of them ava table ir website. we are a long way from where we need to go.
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i believe with pressure and support from the federal government, health care providers, the community, and demands to know what is our risk and response, we could see a lot of progress and that could get us all on the same page. if we are all on the same page, we can improve our performance and begin to getd the upper h against covid. judy: dr. tom frieden, former director of the cdc, now with resolve to save lives, thank you. dr. frieden: thank you. ♪ judy: -- stephanie: i am we will return to judy woodruff after the headlines. toou story, the sate and white house aide tonight they have reached a fundamental
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agreement on the latest congressional effort to address among the funds propose $25 billion goes toward testing and $70 billion toward schools. unemployment benefits and a payroll tax cuts are less clear. current benefits run out asthe end of tonth. in other news, the u.s. ordered china to close its consulate in houston by the latest move in an pressure.scalating campaign of the state department cited concerns aut espionage and intellectual property theft. we will get two different perspectives on the move after the news summary. president trump announced today he is sendinfehundreds more ral agents to chicago, kansas city and albuquerque, new mexico to fight violent crime. they will be drawn from the fbi, u.s. marshals the bureau of , alcohol, tobacco and firearms and the department of homeland security. local police will also receive millionsf dollars in federal cad to hire more officers.
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in c democratic mayor lori , lightfoot angrily dismissed the president's announcement as a political stunt. she also appealed for public help after 15 people were shot outside a funeral home o tuesday. officials say the shooter fired from a moving vehicle in a gang-related attack. the mayor called for an end to the bloodshed. >>s this senselolence, this cycle of retaliation, picking up a gun, many times in petty grievances. picking up a gun, that solves nothing, but causes so much lifelong pain. stephanie: separately, a federal judge today heard arguments over federal agents sent to portland, oregon. the state alleges they have made illegal arrests, and wants an injunction. the trump administration says their mission is defending federal property amid ongoing anti-racism protests.
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the u.s. house of representatives voted to remove at least 10 statues of confederate leaders from the u.s. capital including those of general robert e lee, jefferson davis, and other confederate leaders. they also voted today to remove a bust of supreme court justice roger taney, who authored the infamous dred scott decision. in that 1857 case, taney upheld slavery. but democratic leader steny hoyer said it is time to assert ideals. what dred scott said was that black lives did not matter. so when we assert that yes, they , do matter, it is out of conviction and conscience and appropriateness that in america the land of the free and theav
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home of the that the land of the free include all of us! stephanie: a bust of thurgood marshall, the first black supreme court justice, would replace the taney image. it is unclear if the senate will support the bill or if president trump will sign it. th also approve the great american outdoors act. the landmark legislation would pump nearly $2 billion dollars n year into imprnational parks, fighting climate change cities.ating parks in inner the bl already passed the senate and now goes to the president. in israel, fresh protests overnight, aimed at ousting prime minister benjamin netanyahu. clters of demonstrators clashed with police outside netanyahu's official residence. officers said they arrested 34 people, and broke up the gathering. netanyahu is under fire for his reidonse to c9 and his twitter ss it is banningges.
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accounts and content linked to - ght conspiracy theory. qanon alleges president trump faces enemies in the so-called deep state he, in turn, has promoted various qanon pitts. r says it is acting to bar to others.that could cause harm "newshour"newshour still to come on the" the u.s. orders a chinese consulatese c alleging theft of data and intellectual property. medil developers race against the clock as questions remain an eventuvery of vaccine. drug overdoses increaseal dramat as people struggling with addiction lose access to treatment and much more. >> this is the "pbs newshour" fromet studios in washington and from the west at walter cronkite television in arizona
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university. judy:today's move to clo the chinese consulate in houston is the latest action by the trump administration against beijing. nick schifrin reports on what is at stake. nick: in the courtyard of 'houstos chinese consulate, in ahe hurry, after administration ordered the consulate closed, citing a espionage.nese theft and >> we are setting expectations for how the communist -- chinese communist party will behave. when the' dont, we protect the american people. nick: the chinese have used the houston consulate as a hub for espionage. just yesterday the department of justice accused chinese hackersp are working fsonal gain and the communist party. >> china has taken its place alon russia, iran and north korea, in that shameful club nations that provide a safe
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haven for cyber criminals in exchange for those criminals being on-call call for the benefit of the state. nick:io but sofficials tell "pbs newshour" it was also about diplomatic reciprocity. in january, out of fears of covid, they evacuated their mulan consulate. erloerm, u.s. officials say they want to reduce their footprint in china. addition to the beijing embassy, the u.s. has five consulates on the china mainland and hong kong consulate. e chinficials say they intend to move the consulate elsewhere in asi a spokesman warned of the likely closure today. >> chinatrongly condemns the decision and request the u.s. recall the wrong decision, countermeasures.ll take sick: chinese diplomats emphasized respe and said
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u.s. policy was self-defeating. ere was a major speech on july 9. >> the current china policy of the u.s. is based on ill-informed strategic miscalculation and is fraught with emotions and whims with mccarthy bigotry. it has reached a point of paranoia. nick: but the administration is clear, it will target and penalize chi until behavior changes. after beijing passed wrist -- legislation to restrict hong ng's freedoms, president trump past sanctions. national security advisor robert o'brien on the ideology of the inese communist party, or ccp. >> they want to remake the entire world according to the ccp. nick: fbi director christopher wray -- >> if you are an american adult, it is more likely than not that china has stolen your personal
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data. nick: attorney general william barr -- >> the ultimate goal of china is states.ade with the united it is to raid the united states. nick: u.s.-china relations are at the lowest point since 1979. >> nick: houston was the first chinese consulate in the u.s. whil some china-watchers worry trump administration says it is overdue. >> our policyle red, allowing chinao engage in behavior unfair to the american people and put america's national security at risk. we have begun to turn that around. nick:s we explore today' decision and overall chinese policy with susan thorton. she had a 28 career as an american dipmat focusing on
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nd now is a visiting professor. and gordon chang practiced law. his latest book is "the u.s.-china tech war." nick: susan, let me begin with you. you believe the closuon of the u.s.late in houston is in u.s. interests? susan: i would put this in context and note, closure of a consulate outside of wartime is exceedingly rare in diplomacy. i guess this is th only unilateral closure ou.s. consulate i am aware of, other an the russian san francisco consulate in 2017, whi was a different circumstance and involved a lot of discussions with the russians ahead of time. many other countries share our concerns about china, the challenges it poses to international law and order a
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economic competitiveness, but this kind of action gives the imession of recklessness. it is not clear to me what it accomplishes. nick: gordon chang, do you believe the closure wu.s. best interests? gordon: i believe this was the right thing to do. the ste department talked about protecting u.s. intellectual property. the houston consulate is known as a hub for espionage. we have been talking with china decades, yet we have not gotten anywhere. had the agreement with xi jinping in 2015 for countries not to hack each other foci comm purposes. we have the section 301 tariffs avea remedy, but they continued to steal the u.s. i.p. you could say this is unfortunate closing the consulate, bute w had to do something to stop china from this dangerous activity.
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nick: as we laid out in the piece before we started, there have been a series of speeches i u.s. administration officials laying out concerns, includong the ones gjust mentioned. do you believe that kind of rhetoric is heful toward achieving what the u.s. is trying to do with china? susan: i think from where i sit, the real problem is, we need a very nuanced and thoughtful strategy to take on the complicated challenge china presents. right now it seems we have a tough attitude and provocative o measures thatt account for a strategy and do not have any clear accomplishments. our trade balance is worse than it was when we started this so-called china strategy our position in the asia-pacific has deteriorated. i think a lot of countries are aoking at what we are doing,
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not sure we havlear strategy thought through. i will associate myself with the words of a pretty wise elder statesman i hed yesterday, who said, in this competition, if tchina comes out on top, will be because things happened in the u.s., not because of things that happened in china. nick: gordon chang, respond to th, e argumensan sees a tough attitude but no strategy and negative consequecces to u.s.ions. gordon: i know susan talked strategy.ul and nuanced that sounds good to the ear. problem is, we have had strategies for deced while we have done this, china has not moved ct the right dins. we hoped to incorporate china into the international system and it would become benign. but unfortunately, china has moved in bellirent and provocative directions, so we
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need tonetrange -- w to change strategies. i undersmnd it does not s like it is working, but i believe it is. i do not think we had any choice ntt to try something diffe what we have been doing for decades was not working. specifically what ump administration has done, new visa requirements on chinese reporters, sanctioned for the crackdown on thebans. huawei saidou the china sea claims were without merit. there was a lot on the list. do believe those decisions have been the right ones? susan: i do not want to get into every single decision and the merits of it. i would say the u.s. serves a special role in the world
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because of our values and example. in many measures what we are doing in pursuing reciprocity wi china, we are going down into the ditch with china, trying to see who can go lower. at the end of theaythe chinese will win that fight. . do not think it is a fight worthy of the u we have always maintainedenhe ss of our society as a positive attribute. we have been confident in our foreign policy and economic competitiveness. i think we can beat china on that kind of strategy, and not provocatn, into the ditch with them. nick: gordon, when i asked senior u.s. ficials what their goal is, it is to change chinesi be short-term and long-term. do you think that is possible? gordon: it may be very difficult cause china's brand of communism i think is not cam.ble of ref
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we have tried to do that for five decades not achieved the relts everyone was hoping for. wiwe may have to decid regard to china the same decisions that were made in th 1940's and 1950's with regard to the soviet union, that this was a competition which unfortunately was a zero-sum game. china's existential challenge to the u.s. if we defend ourselves it is not goingdi into thh with china, but preserving our w of life, freedom, economy. we will have to take measures that will cost us. we cannot engage in five decades of misguided policy and not and up [indiscernible] as we try to extricate the u.s. and international system. nick: two sides of this debate. ♪both.you
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judy: it might be the most pressing question in the world, when will we have a covid vaccine? this week has seen a number of headlines on this front and today the trump administration awarded a nearly $2 billion contract to p gfizer andman biotech firm to potentially0 deliver llion doses by the end of the year. there have been early but s encouraging refrom other trials. miles o'brien is here to sort through it. miles, hello. you have been spending a lot of time on this. tell us, how soon might we have a vaccin and how much vaccine are these companies developing them promising? miles: it is unprecedented when you think about it. here we are six-month since the chinese published the genetic
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code of the novel coronavirus. currently there are about one hundred 40 vaccine ideas not in human trials about two dozen in the midst of human trials. yesterday on capit hill representatives of three big pharma companies testified and indicated they are prepared to begin mass testing on humans to see if these vaccines are effective by the end of the year. i can tell you, no one would x monthsdicted this ago.judy: if they are moving ths quickly though, how do we know they are not cutting corners? miles: they are cutting corners but they say not on safety. what they are doing, which is clever and risky, they are manufacturinvaccines that they are currently testing. the idea is, they go through the trials and they are effective and they get the green light, but if they don't work, they
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have to incinerate and take that risk. members of congress on that committee are concerned there might, be pressure on the fda political pressure, to greenlight a vaccine that may not be protectivenough, sometime this fall or before the election. r the t by the fda is 50%. that means at least 50% of people inoculated woulsehave some def against this novel coronavirus. here ia short excerpt from the committee chairman, chairman ofe the house common energy and commerce, along with someone from johnson & johnson. iant you to kind of assume what unfortunately should not happen. you know the fda is approving the drug even though it is only 10% or 20% effective, would you tell us that? would you give us that information? >> w would design our trial to target the efficacy in our the study would fail if it hit
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10%. we would make the result available, but we would not feel comfortable bringing forward a product that was not found to be efficacious according to what we put forth in our protocol. >> -- miles: one advantage, transparency is what it is all about. if the w an attempt to make any of this secret, it is hard to ignore the cry from researchers. if people will confidently take these vaccines, you need transparency so they understand what is in them and what side effects may be. judy: what is the latest information in these peer reason for optimism?here miles: in a word, yes.er were three papers that dropped early this week, two peer reviewed in the british publicationthe lancet, and from
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astrazeneca, and the biontech team. in all cases, no serious side effects. extend pains, but nothing advee. they have all generated what appearto be a pretty solid immune response with antibodies, and t cells, which are in ourf, blood system, designed to g after the cells infected wiki the virus an them. all these vaccines are in a position to go to what they call phase three trials, meaningum largers of people, to see if they are protective enough. we are talking abouttudies of 30,000 people or so. that wl determine if the vaccine is good enough for the public. judy: when we talk about doges people would receive, we are talking about two doses of a right?e per person, is that yes, so far the t aee
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contende one that later stages all would require two we are talking abo potentiallys. the entire planet needingt, 7 billion people times to -- two, a huge supply chain issued a say the least. we do not know how long antibodies affect the t cells, how long it will last. there is no way to do a shortcut on the long-term efficacy of these vaccines. chemist derek l, editor ofin an uential blog, in the pipeline -- >> there is nothing in the papers and no way there could be anything becau that is one of the majorqu unsolvetions in vaccine work and immunology in general, is, how long immunry measts and why it last longer in some cases? we have tond wait outeep
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an eye on it and say, ok, we are now recommending a booster at thetwo year level or whatever. better. vaccine we like there is nothing to do but wait and see. it is frustrating, but atat is the ste-of-the-art. miles: the same goes for safety. there is no way to do a shortcut on that. there could be long-term effects the vaccine. it is highly unlikely, but researchers say givnd the pandemicmergency surrounding it, it is probably worth the risk. judy: it does sound promising, but what is known aboutuc how this will cost and who will pay for it all? miles: the taxpayers are funding a lot money right now, funneling into this warp speed program. the question is, how will dosages he paid for at the other end? heatongressional hearing
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yesterday, executives from pfizer, moderna and merck said they would seek profit, but astrazeneca and johnson & johnson said they would distribute to the government at cost. the key thing is, how do you determinwhat cost is? judy: something everybody is interested in, miles o'brien following the vaccine story. thank you. miles: you are welcome. ♪ judy: drug overdoses kill nearly 72,000 americansast year, a record high. according to pliminary data released last week by the centers for disease control and prevention. it now appears 2020 is on track to be even worse, as the nation
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as see startling rise in overdoses in the last few william brangha examines what could be behind these disturbing number william: in early april, like so many americans,1-year-old sarah wittner was struggling with the new realities of life during themi pan so she called her per dad, leon. >> when the pandemic started she asked if she could live with us because she wanted family support. shste knew the whing for her to do during this pandemic. was to sit at home alone william: i spoke with leon and sarah's sister, grace, via skype. they told me sarah struggled with addiction for eight years. it started when she was prescribed opioids after having surgery on her ear in 2012. prior to the pandemic she had turned a corner. she was working at a local health association and was planning her wedding in the fall. >> n i was as worried about
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sarah now as i was about her in the past. william: the family says they were multiple treatment programs, including 30 days of inpatient treatment in january. she was so regularly attending narcotics anonymous meetings. call a friend for coffee andth t one-on-one connection. that was when the pandemic it. william: sarah was told there would a delay to her eatment. she was taking monthly shots of a drug that helps block people's cravings for opioids. >> she had an appointment to get effective 4, 30 dae time it is because of the pandemic, her appointment ended up being at 45 days instead of 30.
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a shot every 30 days, but theet pandemic stopped that normal process? >> it added 15 days onto that process. those were a tough 15 days for her. william: that delay led to sarah relapsing. on aprilay 16, oneefore her next vivitrol sho sarah was found by her sister grace unresponsive -- unresponsive in her bedroom, syringe in her hand. she died. her father believes it was an overdose of fentanyl. >> she passed away thursday morning. the real unfortunate piece for us was her doctortm's appot for the shot was friday. fine, then get to doctor a be be ok. william: tragically,ah's
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story is becoming more common across the u.s. whil overdoses were already on the rise before the start of the pandemic, the public h ilth crisiss only making things worse. drug-related deaths have risen by 13% so far this year, according to data collected from local and state governments. the american medical association reported 39 states have seen a spike in opioid-related overdoses. in some places like cook county, illinois, which includehigo, opioid-related deaths have in a nearby county up by 1/3, according to the coroner. >> when i look through these deaths, overwhelmingly bees were people that lived alone, wereal having finan difficulties, marital difficulties, previous problems with addiction or mental health problems. these are the very needy of ou society.
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they need community. >> addiction is a disease of isolation. no one chooses to have addiction any more so than anyone chooses to have diabetes or multip cirrhosis. william: he isfe a por of epidemiology and medicine at johns hopkins. he says another effect of the pandemic has been a massive disruption to the illegal drug market. >> if yothink about the way the pandemic has ground the economy to a halt, that has occurred in the illicit drug markets as well. it has decreased the transport of drugs across borders, but it has also disrupted local drug markets and introduced greater uncertainty regarding at howtances are what and individuals that do have opioid addictions can find those. this is one of the rsons trt
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increased moality rates many states have reported due to fentanyl are so concerning. william: alexander says in normal times a disruption to the illegal dg marke would likely funnel more people into treatment. but for those facing substance abuse disorders, access to treatment has also been disrupted. >> because of social distancing, you cannot have as many people in an inpatient facili. in some of the group situations, much smaller groups. william: the president of the health represents manyavioral country, and says fewer patients means less renue this year and 40% of the in's asians he re mesents will be out ofey in six months. >> at a time when more peoe are experiencing depression, anxiety and substance disorders, the last thing we need to do is
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lose facilities. william: president hased c the rise in suicides and drug abuse as a reason to open the econicy y. pres. trump: we have to open the economy. t people are dyi other way. you look at drugs, up. suicides, look at what is going on. jopeople are losing thei. william: of the money given by congress, only a fraction of 1% has been even to mental health and substance abuse treatment. they relaxed barriers around the prescription and dispensing of the most commonly used medications to treat opioid addiction. for example, methadone clinics can prescribe the four weeks of the medication at a time rather than requiring daily visits. >> i can give you information to make it easier for you. william: but for those on the front lines of the aiction crisis, the total is worse every day. >> i probably personally know of
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11 people who overdosed in the last three months. william: jim is in recovery and now works as a certified peer recovery coach in upstate new york. she says both the pandemic and the government's response to it has upended the life of the people she cares for >> it is a cluster, to be frank. you take people already closed off, operate in a very small circle, then tell them theyha cannot eve that circle. on top of it, here is1200, bye. >> this is the check people are getting. >> the unemployment and stimulus all came at one time. you had people struggling with sobriety, ge them a boatload of cash, told them to stay home and not do anything. imagine if the entire country
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was on apu diet and then yo chocolate in the street. william: i baccolorado leon and grace say they are shocked at how many people have reached out to them with similar tragic stories. >> the number of people i have come into contact with who have lost a loved one to either overdose or suicideis during pandemic is staggering. william: are you convinced that, not for thisandemic, that sarah would be alive today? >> had she have just -- had just gotten her shot at 30 days, she would be planning heing, working. it is no one' fault, but we have to find a way to fix that. it iss a terrible l an amazing person. william: they plan to hold a funeral for sarah this friday in colorado. for the "pbs newshour," i am william brangham. ♪
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judy: on tuesday, president trump signed a memo that aims to bar undocumented immigrants from being included in the census count that determines howany members of congress are allocated for each state. lisa des jardins explores what it means. lisa: the 2020 census is a one and -- once in a decadeount of e population that affects policy and power for years, but it faces unprecedented challenges from the pandemic itself to politicates over how it should be run, including the president's latest memo. joining me now, n. let me start off with the president's move. can the president lock the
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census from counting undocumented immigrants? >> the thing to take a look at is the constitution, the text of it, the 14th amendment, says, representatives shall bene apportamong states according to their respective numbers counting the whole o numbpersons in each state. it is the whole number of persons because the 14th amendment was enacted after the civil war, after the ending of counting and enslaved person as 3/4 of a person. the country has for years included both noncitizens in the population are divided in cone how seats he would be going against two centuries of precedent. it is congress who has the final authority on the count. lisa: a lot of our politics team loves talking about the census
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because it is so important. can you remind folks what at stake, why does it matter so much? >> when you are talking about the census, you are talking about power and money.this is tf people living in the united states. this is how the country determines how we distribute $1.5 trillion a year in federal rscap -- tax dol for medicare, medicaid, services. it also determines congressionat seats, eal college seats. this is data that informs how a voting distric redrawn once every 10 years after the census is counted. this has impacts on the balance of power from local government federal governmen lisa: anotherarolitical storm nd the census as well. the president appointed a new director for policy and assistant to that person.
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some in thtatistics immunity can you talk about thatied. appointment and why it is controversial? >> the trump administration made two brand-new appointments, ments and never existed before. a science professor being appointed at a time when there already a deputy director at the census bureau. it is unclear what he does at the census bureau and what his senior advisor, what he does. both have qualifications that do not seem to match with the senses bureau does. they are focused on methodology, both of these appnteeso not have that background, based on their resumes. lisa: we have the public crisis itself. let's look at a map. these are americans who have responded to the census.
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the darker states have a higher response rate. over 60% of americans have responded. that lves over 100 million people at least the census still has to contact. where is the agency now on completing the census on time? lisa: the sent -- >> the census reau has a big job to d four out of 10 homes have out beened yet. they are trying to send out doorknocker's to do in person in at this point, histocally, these are households less likely to fill out a form on their own and will require convincing. that is a big challenge at a time we are all trying to keep social distance, there are public health concerns and parts of the countrynder lockdown. they will bekd under ln when doorknocking is supposed to happen nationwide o august 11.
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lisa thank you for your work on this. >> you are welcome. ♪ judy: four years ago the chester'childrens chorus, a group near philadelphia, recorded an original sg called i still cannot breathe, their response tohe deaths of trayvon martin, eric garner and others. they have grown into teenagers and young adults. now, as black lives matter protest continue across the country in the wake of george floyd's death, these people see their song as tragicay still relevant. their sty comes as part of our arts ava culture series, can ♪ >> ♪ can you hear me i still can't breathe ♪
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>> when performed "i still can't i breathe," was 10 or 11 years old. i fl a strong sense of deja vu. >> now i am an adult, a grown man, and the same things are happening. >> i is literal, also a repeat ords of eric garner' last words before his life was taken for him -- from him. black experience imerica. the >> ♪ why are you afraid of me? >> theg s talking to those people constantly denying that there is a thi such as racism. there is a sense of hope because there arehose kids singing it, but there is also a sense of helplessness also, because there are young kids singing it, young black children
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realizing what is going on. some adults refused to believe what is going on. ♪ >> i don't want people coming away thinkinwhat a beautiful ng that is. bewhy should w hearing lack men begging through a choque, -- choke, i can't breathe? why should they be pleading? what is different is, the pandemic has given many white americans the time and emotional space to think about something more in shopping, going going out to a restaurant. all of the distractions havewa been takenfrom us. >> this new generation coming, have the power to change things, we have large voices.
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