♪ judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, feeling the pain. the pandemic causes the largest quarterly reduction of the u.s. economy on record, aress struggles to react. then, antibiotic resistance. the economics of antibiotic development hamstring ths drug industrysing hospitalizatns increase the need. >> if we lose our antibiotic infrastructure, that's the real threat. we lose our ability then to create the innovations we need when we need the judy: and --pres. obama: what an lewis was. judy: farewell to a hero. the late civil rights activist and congressman john lewis is laid to rest.

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economic activity, fell by 9.5% between april and june, when much of the country shut down. if that drop continued over a full year, the economy would have shrunk by nearly one third. parts of the economy have clearly improved, but the initial recovery may be slowing. weekly jobless claims were up again, to 1.4 million. it's the 19th straight week of one-million-plus claims.' les look at the state of ourth economy en rogoff. he is an economist at harvard university, and the co-author of a widely cited book on financial crises, "this time is different." ken rogoff, thank you for joining us again. worst declin a quarter ever? just how bad is this? ken:s it stunning. we are looking at great depression type numbers. wof cours knew we had a very

bad quarter, but we were hoping irby now the would be calming down and things would be coming back. but we have not tamed it, at least not nearly to the extent europe has oasia has. so i think it is going to be very difficult for the next six months or more. judy: well, let's talk about the larger picture. for we do, i want to dig into this a little bit. everybody knew it was going to be bad. everything, practically, was shut down in thed quarter of the year. but what is behind this? what do you seen these numbers that explain what has happened? ken: we are all locked at home. you cannot go to restaurants. entertainment is shut down. businesses cannot bring people in. frankly, i mean, i'm surprised it is not an even bigger number. of course, it would have been if we had not had an intervention

from the federal reserve and congress. judy: as you think about it, you mentioned restaurants, the rvice industry, but it goes beyond that. what does this mean in human terms? ken: it exacerbates inequality problems we have, people who don't have a place to shelter-in-place that is comfortable or safe. there are a lot of things going on -- people getting other diseases that are not taken care of, mental healthem pro, heart problems. you name it, this is just a catastrophic situation. ithink certainly the worst thing i have semy lifetime, the worst thing i think we have seen in judy: ken rogoff, clearly tsver. is connected. we talk to you earlier today, and you m talked about hh this is connected to what is

going on with covid, the fact that we are seeing a resurgence across much of the country, including in some aces where it looked ticket was getting better. can the economy begin to come back while this virus is still raging in parts of america? ken: only upo a point. we need parts of our economy, not just restaurants and bars -- things like entertainment and travel. plif phave to socially distance, there are limits that business. ankly, i am just stunned we do not have a national policy on something simple, like wearing masks, which would help a lot. contrast us with great britain. their leader also said it is just a cold, and then he got it. but then they shut down. they shut down. it is in remission there. here, we really did halfway, and we are just back to the starting point. still need to deal with it.

judy: you are saying there is a direct, absolute connection between the economy and this virus? ken: absolutely. this is a health csis that spills over into an economic crisis, and we do not fix the health crisis, people arego not g to want to go out. we are not going to have the economy back. it does not mean nothing can happen. we will learn to live with it. but we should not have to. they should do giant stimulus. they should protect people. there is nothing they could do that would help as mucas some basic rings like improving testing, requing people to wearasks. eventually there will be a vaccine, but i don't know when that will be. so yes, as long as the virus is raging, i jt don't see how the economy can come roaring back. judy: we see the federal reserve, which has a lot of control over economic activity, saying it is dng everything it

can, and now we see congress frozen in place, unable t come to an agreement. how'd much does it matter whether they come up with a $1 trillion plan like the republicans are talking about, or a $3 trillionn, phich the democrats want? ken: i think a $1 trilli plan is predicated on the idea things are going to get better and we just have to cushion. that is nowhere we are. i think you can argue that marge we are going to spend money, but the states need help, local governments, unemployment, etc. i think $3 trillion is much more on the mark. i don't know that this is going be the end of this. i think it will be $3 trillion and $3 trillion again. i don't think they are going to agree to it, but i think if they expect to get reelected -- and i'm not just talking about'he president'm talking congress

-- to get better. this impasse, where people are abouto run out support, where so manpeople are going to lose the unemployment, are off their insurance, etc. -- i think they will come up with something. but we're just nowhere near out of this. $1 trillion is kind of dreaming that things are getting better ch quickly. they are not. judy: you have set a couple times that it is hard to know how long this is going to g what are we realistically looking at? next year, the end of next year? soonest this cou start to look healthy again? ken: the soonest would be we gee a vacnd everyone has a year from now. that would be pretty fast. i don't think it's going to be that fast. you have had many experts on this program speak to it better than me.

right now, until that happens, we just don't know. there is aom norm uncertainty the economy. people are in a very onecarious posi the are certainly not going to be an exit in september, in november. it will be well into next year. we are a few months into this. it started in march. this i still just the end of july. people are naturally going crazy in confinement. we need to find a solution, at least with masks or something, so the people can function at some level, compared what we have now. judy: a grim forecast from economist ken rogoff. thank you very much, though. ken: thank you. ♪ ♪

stephanie: i'm stephanie sy with newshour west. we will return to judy woodruff and the whole program after the latest headlines. in the day's other news, a u stalemate in t. senate again sidelined a pandemic relief bill. instead, senators left for the weekend, with federal fibless be and eviction protections set to expire after tomorrow. republicans asked for a short-term extension, just for the unemployment benefits. but they needed unanimous consent, and democts rejected a temporary, piecemeal approach. sen. mcsally: what aring today is a simple seven-day extension of the extra $600 a week for unemployed americans while we work through our forward, and see americans clearly a stunt.is a one-week fix can't be implemented in time, and the senator knows that. judy: in turn, republicans bring up their own relief bill. on wall street, the day's

-- president trump sent contradictory signals today about the november election. evidence -- that min voting would mean widespread fraud. then, he asked if officialsld sh- quote -- "delay the election until people can properly, securely, and safely vote?" at drew bipartisan disapproval -- including from the top senate and house republicans. sen. mcconnell: never in the ugstory of the country, th wars, depressions, and the civil war,ave we ever not had a federally scheduled election on me. and we'll find a way to do that again this november 3. rep. mccarthy: i understand the mail-in voting, whn about different than absentee voting. but never in the history of the federal elections have we ever not held an election, and should go forward with our election. judy: house speaker nay pelosi pointed out that the u.s. sole power to set onongress the dates. but this evening, the president told reporters he does not want

the election delayed. the department of homeland secuncty compiled intelli reports on journalists covering the ongoing protestpo iland, oregon, according to "the washington post." a reporter from "the new york times" and the editor in chief of "lawfare" obtained leaked documents about the protes. ben whittis of "lawfare" said he was concerned about a report.n a journali a federal appeals court says it will review an order to dismiss michael flynn.es against the former national security adviser pled guilty to lying to the fbi in the russia investigation. lar, the justice departmen moved to dismiss the case. last month, a panel of the appeals court ordered the trial odge to grant the motion. state lawmakers o today ousted their house speaker, republican larry householder. he is accused in a $60-million federal bribery scheme aimed at

passing a financial bailout for two nuclear power plants. a federal grand jury today formally indicand householder four associates on racketeering charges. tropical storm isaias spent this day dumping heavy rain on puerto rico, touching off landslides and flooding and kcking out power and water service. from there, it headed toward the dominican republic, and on a -- and is on track to be nearar the bahamas by tomorrow. nasa has launched "perseverance" -- the largest and most advaed rover ever sent to mars. the car-sized rover blasted off today from cape canaveral, orida. its mission is to drill for rock samples that will be brought back to earth and analyzed for signs that life once existed on mars. jim: if this little rover were to discover bio signatures of ancient life on mars, i think it would transform how we think about space exploration and discovery. i think you would see a lot of people wanting to do a lot more science and make discoveries as our own solar system. even in

judy: the mission also includes a mini-helicopter that will try to make the first powered flight on another planet. and former republican presidential candidate and businessman herman cain has died in atlanta of covid-19. he'd been diagnosed after attending president trump's campaign rally ilatulsa, ma last month. herman still to come on the "newshour," judy woodruff, recovery efforts are reconsidered as the u.s. passes 150,000 coronavirus deaths -- qutions about the atmosphe inside the state department under mike pompeo'leadership -- the economics of antibiotic development hamstring e drug industry as bacterial infections increase -- and much me. ♪ ♪ >> this is the "pbs newshour"

from w e studios in washington and from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: the number of new covid b infections mslowing a bit, but the virus is taking an enormous toll. more than 1,400 coronavirus-related deaths were reported yesterday, hospitalizations are up significantly, and at least five states reported single-day records of deaths this week. has now passed 150,000 deaths.rs many docnd public health voices say it's time to change our approach. william brangham has t conversation. william: judy, in response to this growing death toll across the country, over 1000 health professionals have signed a letter saying that if we don't change course, many more will die. their letter is titled "shut itn do. start over. do it right."

it recommends targeted closures in certain hotspots, far more teg,ing, better contact trac and the need for unified, coherent commucation. citing the successful efforts b, other countrt says, "we could've prevented 99% of america's covid-19 deaths. but we didn't." one of the signatories of that letter joins me now. dr. megan ranney is an emergency physician, a researcher, and direct of the brown center for digital health at brown university. dr. ranney, very good have you on the "newshour." could you explain to me why you wanted to sign this letter? what's the argument -- the core argument you're making? dr. ranney: so, the reason why we wrote this letter, and why i agreedgn on to it, is because we continue to lack a coherent national strategy to prevent the transmission of covid-19. we're seeing rising number ss hot spots ache country, including in states that had managed to decrease the number of people who were infected. and it is becoming clearer and

clearer that without a national plan, we are not going to get this virus under control. william: i ticked off a few ofin the that you and your signatories suggest we ought to do. can you expand on that a bit more? what's the order of business that we ought to be do dr. ranney: absolutely. so, the first and simplest thing is that we all need to be wearing masks all the time. i'm not wearing one with you right now because i am in my office that is csed and there is virtually no one else in my office building outside of this. i wear masks whenever i'm around someone who's not part of my immediate family -- anthat's what we should all be doing. we need mandates to make that happen. we need it to be easy for people to wear masks. the second thing that we need is we need a coherent national testing strategy. you know, we've been talking for months about the need for tests, and threason why is showing up now for anyone who's tried to get a covid-19 test in the last couple of weeks. you know that the delay in test results is growing and growingnt making the pf getting that test almost pointless, right?

the third thing that we need is a national strategy for preventiveersonal protective equipment, things like gloves,- masks, gownsviously for -- if we don't have adequate masks, gloves, and hand sanitizer, we're n aer going to e to keep us all safe. and until we can do those things, it's ons to keep people apart. we have to do things like make going to a bar more difficult. we have to do things like making sure that we protectey parts of our economy, our schools anour essential businesses, before we open up places where people are likely to transmit covid-19. so those are a few of the things that we're calling for. wiiam: i mentioned that yo letter states that had we done a lot of these things that you're calling for, that we could have prevented 99% of the covid-19 deaths.be do you realleve that's true? i mean, we've seen other parts of the u.s., like california, that did many of the things that you' talking about, and they too, are really struggling. have stemmed the dthat could much?

dr. ranney: so, i can talk fromn myxperience in rhode island. we put in many of those measured in place here,e relatively quickly plateaued that number of cases, and tn saw a dramatic decline. and for the past cou he of months, e kept our number of new infections and our number of hospitalizations at a very, very low level. we did reopen in early july, and our number of casetois starting o up -- so our governor just yesterday said she's going to decrease the number of people c th be in a single place at any time. by doing this, ware decrsing the deaths in our state compared to other similar states. and when you look at california, when they had those measures in place, they had fewections and deaths. so is it 99%? is it 90%? that's a queson of modeling. but there's zero doubt that we could have a dramatic decreaseof in the numbe hospitalizations and deaths, were we following this strategy from the get-go. william: i mean, obviously we have seen the economic

devastation of the prior shutdown. we've seen this incredible resistance to staying closed for one day more. there's a huge push to open schools. what makes you confident that the arguments that you're making, through this letter and your appearances here, are going to change people's minds? i mean, the tide seems to be pushing so much in the other direction. dr. ranney: so, the goal is to reopen the economy andk o get kids b school, and that's precisely why these measures are needed. i'm the mom of two school-aged kids. i really want my kids to go to school physically in the fall. i'also a professor here at brown. i really want the students to come back -- and we're planning. on t but that is not going to be possible if we don't have these public health asures in place. similarly, i think about all of my friends and colleagues' businesses. those are going to go under if people are getting infected byco d and are scared to go out and spend money. in order to save our ecomy, in order to save our kids and their schools, we have to have these

strategies in place.m: willll right. dr. megan ranney of brown university, thank you very, very much for your time. dr. ranney: thank you. ♪ ♪ judy: today, secretary of state mike pompeo responded to concerns about the department he runs, during testimony to the senate foreign relations committee. nick schifrin was watching, and joins us now. atnick, re those concerns, and tellow us secretary pompeo is responding to them. nick: judy, congressional democrats, former seniorci of and some current, mid-level state department employees describe to me a state department where caree officials are sidelined, and alcretary pompeo and polit appointees are protected. the staff of the senate foreign relations committee released a

report ts week detailing for concerns. number one, vacancies -- 1 more than one third of senior positions are cant, or filled acting officials. declining morale and confidence in leadership, as measured by the state department's own employee data.ea infear of reprisal for employees who report suspected violations of the law. and, quote, "disrespect and sdain" shown by politica appointees toward career employees. on that last point, senator tim kaine challenged secretary pompeo today over the case of re yavonovitch, the for ambassador to ukraine, whom president trump fired after a campaign led by rudy giuliani that included false statements about her. for their entire career for thee state depa, and they are for no good reason, that sends a message that could not be clearer to other state department officials. and it may be just a big joke --

i mean, hey look at you, smiling and laughing, and calling it silly. i don't think it's silly to marie yavonovitch or the people who work for you. sec. pompeo: i don't think it's silly to the u.s. departnt of state to understand that every ambassador, evy political appointee, knows that if the president finds that they lack i confidenyou, the president has the right to terminate them. it's that easy. it includes me. >> senator paul? sec. ppeo: and you should note, i didn't slander anyone. i did -- this was handled appropriately and properly, senator. nick: pompeo is right -- he never publicly critccized yavono in fact, senior officials around pompeo tell me he privately resisted giuliani's effort for at least a few months, but didn't go public to avoid alienating presint trump. and that is the core of the criticism from former senior and current officials -- they haven't hed the public defenses of career officials at the state department that they need to hear. they also point out only two, and soono be one, of the department's senior officials

is a career employee. as for the democratic staff report, the stnte department e a statement, accusing top committee democrat senator bob menendez of blockingf somee state department's nominees, and, quote, "notwithstanding senator menendez's obstruction, the trump administration has effectively delivered on its hereign policy goals for the american people, safety and economic prosperity." judy: nick, we know that just last month, president trump fired the state department's inspector general, steve linick. i understand that came up today. nick: mocratic lawmakers accuse pompeo of urging the president to fire linick, because linick was looking into actions by pompeo and his wife, susan. now,inick acknowledged in recent testimony that he initiated an audit into secretary pompeo and susan pompeo for, quote, "the misuse of government resours." linick also accused a senior pompeo aide of, quote, "bullying

m" into dropping a separate investigation. thata™s backed up by ainecent compthat alleges when a whistleblower who tnessed misconduct "requested clarifications and guidance, they were blocked from doing so." today, pompeo repeated he did not know linick was investigating him, and also said linick, quote, "screwed up" the partment's financial statement dit. and he accused him of leaking to the press. sec. pompeo: he didn't act with integrity in twat process in a that inspectors general have to be counted on to behave. nick: linick recently testified that after he d other ig's were fired, he heard current inspectors general are "fearful of retribution" by this administration -- and i have been told the same by a cugeent inspectoral. something else th came up today -- questions raised about secretary pompeo's travel inside the united states, and dinners he hosted at the state department. what about all that? nick: democratic lawmakers and former senior official that pomp's travel is designed

less about the state department, and more about his future political ambitions. he has traveled multiple timese to his hate of kansas, to iowa, the site of the country's first caucus, and battleground state florid d a senior staartment official insists the travel was to recruit and to plain the department to the whole country, pompeo's predrs alsoints out traveled domestically. judy, that is true, but former secretaries who traveled domestically extensively weres. traveling to their ho the pompeos, of course, live in d.c. the oth concern from democratic officofls and senior cials i talked to is that dinners hosted by mpeo and h wife are more about collecting information from donors. ioa s state department official counters that, pointing out to me that all former secretaries d dinners, and at least one dinner hosted at hillary clinton's home was done with the clinton foundation. but former senior officials who worked for those secretaries say on policy, and pomepo's are more about his politics. judy: it sounds like it was

quite a hearing, with some fairly testy moments. thank you so much for following. nick: thks very much. ♪ ♪ judy: last night, ecomics correspondent paul solman reported on the ominous collapse of the antibiotics industry, just as bacterial infections are the coronavirus.side-effect of ofnight, he explains why. please note, muche video for this story was shot before the pandemic. it is part of our regular series, "making sense." paul: so you warned us this was going to happen, right? kevi, i wish i'd been wro but yes. paul: that's antibiotics pricing expertevin outterson, whom we previously interviewed in 2017,s when antibiotartups were worth hundreds of millions of llars. what's happened to the industry since? kevin: four out of t last 14 drugs approved of the fda went

into bankruptcy in 2019. and there'll be more drugs falling into bankruptcy in 202 paul: as a result, big pharma has dropped antibiotic development,nd small firms making effective new drugs are nearly worthless. and the pandemic is king things worse because of the need s r new antibiotics to prevent and treat dangercondary infections in covid-19 patients ventilators.y those on you can't get reath.ying because and all you can think in your head is, am i going to end up on a ventilator paul: here's the quandary, though -- the economic problems facing the industry were perfectly clear three years ago. e rst, as one-time pharma exec john rex put it --doctors were reluctant to prescribe new antibiotics.n dr. rex: wu invent a new antibiotic that hits the very most resistant bacteria in therl what we as a community want you to do with it is sit on

it, oksave it for just that rainy day. uspaul: that's becausg a new superdrug too soon could spur the evolution of resistance, rendering the new drug worthless. dr. rex: once we have found this precious jewel, we need to protect it, because every use of an antibiotic, even a correct paul: "stewardship it's called, but not a great way to make money. a second hurdle, said infectious disease specialist lindsey baden -- dr. baden: often, the treatments are short, a week or two, and intermittent, and that's very different than for hypertension, diabetes, hypercholesterol, where it''s a treatment every da for the rest of your life. paul: ok, so why not just hike the prices of superbug drugs, for the sake of discussion, oh, say $10,00a treatment? that's what they're worth, says outterson. kevin: when you consider what gsoncology drugs, cancer dor orphan drugs that are being priced at hundreds of thousands of dollars, even a couple above

think of an antibihatwhen you saves the life of the person -- they're going to die from this infection. $10,000 is really a bargain. paul: and that's why pharma start ups are usually so attractive, says investoran richarrs. richard: there are a lot of drugs which make a lot of money at very high prices. paul: but, he says, invetoors have comealize new antibiotics can't be priced that high. richard: because the political system would be in an uproar, and the drug companies want nothing to do with that because of all the flak they're already taking for fighting th battles on other fronts. dr. boucher: because of the societal good of antibiotics, they feel like they can't charge more. paul: infectious dease specialist dr. helen boucher. dr. boucher: the reason that we've been told that big pharma has disengaged is be they're not making enough return on their investment, plain and simple. paul: but only big pharma can efficiently get these new drugs to market. richard: as an early-stage life enience investor, i think invest in a company, how is that

company going to get acquid by a larger company? and if the larger companies aren't acquiring, then it's really difficult to invest in companies that are early in the market. paul: compare that to drugs for viral diseases. even before the frantic search for a coronavirus cure, the antiviral market was booming -- more than doubling over the last decade, while the antibiotics market shrank. but what, besides the increasing aversion to raising antibiotic prices, has changed he last three years? the economics of hospitals. kevin: if you into a hospital with bacterial pneumonia, the hospital gets a fixed payment. if they use the cheap antibiotic or the expensive antibiotic, the hospital gets paid the same. paul: not true for antivirals,t, by contrhich face no such reimbursement constraints. meanwhile, says kevin outterson, hospitals have come undernt increasingly iense cost pressu, made even worse by the decrease in elective surgeries during covid.

so new antibiotics are too pricey, given cheaper alternatives. a common generic might be $150f over an entire hospital stay, and for the most expensive antibiotic, it might be $8000 to $10,000. paul: ted schroeder's drug, xenleta, is actually just $1000 a treatment, and even that's too much.om ted: so the ec problem really is a reimbursement problem. paul: and three years ago? ted: i don't think anyone anticipated that hospital margins would fall so low so quickly. paul: finally, tetraphase ceo larry edwards, whose drug xerava is also $1000 for a course of treatment. but his business was moribund.to what can he saoctors, he asks, who tell him -- larry: "i had a patient that came in with an intraabdominal in we gave them your drug. we saved their life." paul: tetraphase sold itself in firm, for a song -- one tenth

its market value three years ago. now before you despair completely, there are even newer antibiotics in the pipeline. kevin: we've supported 56 small companies at this point, with millions of dollars. paul: kevin outterson runs carb-x, a public-privateth partnershi invests in new antibiotics. this meeting occurred before physical distancing rules were put in place. erin duffy, carb-x's r&d chief, says it's a constant battle againsbacterial resistance. erin: it has happened in as short as a sixonth period of time, which is the whole reason that we have to keep innovating. paul: and innovating they have been. but will the new drugs er get to mket? there is a bill in congress to allow for higher prices, and the world's largest drug companies just announced a billion dollar o help bring two to four new antibiotics to fda approval. but then what, asks john r, given threluctance to use the new antibiotics already out there. y

dr. re need to have $350 million in revenue over the first 10 years in the marketplace, just break even, on a cash-flow basis that's not paying anybody who's invested in you today. it's just keeping the lights on, so the drug is manufactured and it's out there inharmacies. paul: so, as scientists exit antibiotics research in droves for other drugs, who will create the next generation,ght perhaps in tandem with the next generation of viruses? w dr. rewish we had a therapeutic for covid-19 right now, and the lack of that is costing us.en i can't egin to guess how much it's costing us. infection, could hsimilarterial effect. ted: if we lose our antibiotic infrastructure, that's the real threat. we lose our ability then to e need,the innovations when we need them. paul: like now, when the dangers of underinvestment to prevent catastrophe are all too

apparent. paul solman, from boston, for the "pbs newshour." ♪ ♪ judy: after a long hiatus forced by covid, the nba resus season tonight, and with the playoffs soon after. erit comes just one week a major league baseball began its delayed season, and just days before the national hockey league is set to return. but, as amna nawaz tells us, there are very big questions brewing about the return of s ofessional sports. amna: judy, evene pro leagues are starting back up, they're doing it in very differt ways. the nba has moved its league into a bubble of sorts in orlando, limited to just players, coaches, and staff, and since mid july, no players have tested positive. major league baseballl however, ising teams to travel for a shortened season, and it's now dealing with an outbreak -- 19

players on the miami marlins -- that's set off new protocols and delayed games. to unpack it all, i'm joined by syndicated sports columnist mike wise. welcome back to the "newshour." i got to say, after allan the ng, all the safety precautions, all the protocols in the mlb, what is supposed to be the start to a 60 day season, here we are. games?ey going to make it to 60 as a sports journalist by trade, i hope so. i don't think it's going to happen. i just think the pandemic is something that's going to be just with society, but with sports, for a long time. and if i were the major league baseball commissioner, rob manfred, i would have thought seriously about pushing my season back to 2021. for varis reasons. i thought there was almost -- i don't wan to call it

warped, but a misguidedrms ra for the north american sports leagues, the major revenue ones, to get back on the field lay as soonest they could, and be the first one to capture american eyeballs. i don't know why, because clearly, as e miami marlins ve shown, it makes no sense. whenetou a third of a major league roster testing positive for the coronavirus, ur endangering -- you are , dangering not just the health of the playet your season. amna: meanwhile, in the nba,s it' a very different story. the season restarts tonight. they announced recently that of the 344 players down in that double, enclosed spacenone have testede positnce they got down there. are there lessons as you look at how t nba has unpacked this? are there lessons for other proteins? mike: i think the lesson is you want to become "the truma show." you want to put everything into

a bubble and seal urself off from the world. i think what adam silver has done is pretty amazing, lionized -- and it should be modeled and lionized across the country. i also think to work in thatbb , there must be some sort of disassiation, and almost a cognitive dissonance from what's happening outside the bubble. i mean, we're talking 280 six coronavirus yesterrida from the that's the third straight day of record for tallies and tin hottest spohe country. some of those people who died are mere miles from where lebron james and many other players are staying in an opulent, disney-owned hotel and property. and so while on one hand i tadmi nba, and i can't wait to see the games, there is a part of me that has to s, gosh, you really have to -- you really have to work not to see what's happening outside the bubble, because if you do, you might realize that basketball

shouldn't matter as much as much as it does right now. amna: meanwhile, with the wnba, we should mentione they h already restarted their season, and there's been a lot of interestin league already.in the the entirely dedicated their season to the memory of b taylor, who was killed her home by police, and to the "say her name" movement. both teamsalked off the floor before the national anthem. players they they are notauoming back b they want to commit themselves to the black lives matter movement right now. the is a connection to what is happening in the lead in the bubble and what is happening in mike: this is true, and this is where i will give the nba, especially the wnba, some big credit. we are living in an unprecedented area of social conscience among athletes. it is all most a renaissance from the 1960's, of arthur and -- ashe, and tommy smith

putting up black power fist. hlthese es are using the platform to better the world and speak out about society's wrongs d ills in ways that none of us can. amna: mike, so many people really miss sports, and they are really wanting it to come back, but safely. do you think that they will? mike: i'd like to think so. i think it's important that sports resembles the resilience that we have going on in society , agastst this pandemic, aga this racial reckoning we are dealing with. but i'm worried right now. ihink the reason is that this doesn't feel like after 9/11, when the new york rank -- new yorkankees rallied a town an country together in the wake of the teorist attacks. it doesn't al like post-katrina and the new orleans saints, ere you could file town lifting -- could feel a town lifting up, an area, and

this communal bonding. , ght njor league baseball resembles the worst of society. the pandemic is going on, ander plare catching it. god forbid if a manager, an elderly manager, gets the virus and ends up in the hospital. i would like to see it come back. i just don't know if it is going tonytime soon, and that is about as real as i can be about it. amna: we will take the realness. we appreciate it. likewise, syndicated columnist, joining us tonight. good to see you. mike: thank you. ♪ ♪ judy: the nation bid a final atlanta today afte than a week of celebrations of the life of the long-time congressman and civil rights leader' well hear some of the rememrances from his funeral service in jusa moment, but we begin with a look back at the life and legacy of john lewis.

jessica: on the edmund pettus bridge in selma, alabama, where, 50 years earlier he and other civil rights leaders were brutally beatendon "bloody su," john lewis reflected on their perseverance. rep. lewis: we were beaten, tear gassed, some of us was left bloody right here on this bridge. 17 of us were hospitalized that day. but we never became bitter or hostile. we kept believing that the truth we stood for hadthe final say. jessica: the civil rights icon s born near troy, alabama in 1940. the son of sharecroppers, he grew up in the deep south in the era of jim crow. he wanted to be a minister, and would preach to chickens on his family's farm. as a teenager, he began listening to civil rigs leaders, like martin luther king jr., on radio broadcasts, and

would soon join the growing movement. in 1961, lewis voluned with other "freedom riders," fighting to desegregate lunch counters and public transportation across the south. many, including lewis,e arrested, attacked with dogs and sprayed with fire hoses. rep. lewis: you believe in something that is so right, so good, and so necessary that you are prepared to stand up and be judy: at the height of the civil rights movement, he led the student nonviolent coordating committee, or sncc. altogether, lewis was jailed he also became clodr. king -- whom he called, "my inspiration." at 23-years-old, lewis delivered a speech at the 1963 march on washington.

he spoke to the "newshour" about the experience, 50 years later. rep. lewis: i felt that we had to be tough. i had to deliver a speech that reflected the feelingthe views of the youngeople -- and also the views and the feeling of the people that was struggling in e black belt of alabama, in southwesteorgia, in the delta of mississippi. judy: lewis was back in washington in 1965. alongside president lyndon johnson as he signed the voting righ act, the landmark civil rights legislation that acprohibitedl discrimination in voting. earlier that year, johon had called on congress to pass the bill. ghter a months-long, often violent voting campaign across the south, led by leaders like lewis, hnson asked

congressor the legislation, just days after "bloody sunday." pres. johnson: t even if we pass this bill, the battle will not be over. what happened of a far larger movement which reaches into every section and state of america. it is the effort of american negroes to secure forheelves the full blessings of american life. their cause must be our cse, too, because it is not just negroes, but really, it's all of us who must overcome the crippling legacy of bigotry and injustice. and we shall overcome. judy: voting rights became a

part of lewis's ongoing fight for civil rights. afte leaving sncc in 1966, he began working with groups like the voter education project, helping more than 4 vllion minoriers register. then, in 1981, lewis won a seat on the atlanta city council. in 1987, he was elected to congress, where he would represent atlanta for the rest of his career. rep. lewis: when you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have the moral obligation to say something. judy:hi wng servi in the house of representatives, lewis championed what he called good trouble, continuing to push for civil rights both in congress and outside. as a lawmaker, he washe voice for voting rights. rep lewis: the vote is the most powerful tool we have in a democratic society, and people should be able to use it. judy: and later, gun reforms.

in 2016, and the spit of his younger years during the civil rights movement, he let house democrats in a sit in on the house floor to protect the inaction by the republican majority. rep. lewis: do we have the courage -- do we have raw courage to make at least a down payment on ending gun violenc in america?we can no longer wai. we can no loer be patient. so today, we come to the well of the house, to dramatize the need for action -- not next month, not next year, but now. judy: president barack obama awarded lewis the middle of freedomke, and rem on how he changed the trajectory of the nation. pres. obama: we award this metal tooh congressmanlewis. it says that we aspire to be a more just, more each, more

perfect union. judy: lewis stayed home in atlanta for president trump's inauguration, opting instead to march in the city's protest the next day. rep.ewis: as a nation and as a people, with, distance. we made progress. there are forces in america tt want to take us back to another time. judy: in december of last year, lewis announced he had been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. still, he kept up his good trouble fight for civil rights. in march, 55 yearsfter bloody sunday, he crossed the edmund pettus bridge one las. and just last month, in what be his final publi espearance, lewis joined a new generation of prrs in washington, d.c., acting for justice and equality. for the final farewell to john lewis today, local activists and national luminaries joined his friends and familynt at a's

ebenezer baptist church, where . martin luther king jr. preached, and where lewis himself worshiped. the funeral service for representative john lewis included remembrancesm four former u.s. presidents, three in person -- incding republican george w. bush, who said and his faith elevated america's politics. pres. bush: listen, john and i had our sagreements, of worse, at in the america john lewis fought for and trica i believe in, differences of opinion are inevitable elements, and evidence of democracy in action. we the people, includingn congressd presidents, can have differing views on how to perfect our union wle sharing the conviction that our nation, however i fla at heart a good and noble one. judy: from former president ll

clinton, a reminder that john lewis the activist was also a committed ridge-ilder. pres. clinton: as a young man, he challenged others to join h , with love and dignity, h tod america's house down and open the doors of america to all its people. helo got into of good trouble along the way, but let's absolutely uncanny ability to heal troubled waters. judy: former president jimmy carter sent a written msage, and house speaker nancy pelosi remembed the lawmaker she served with for decades, with times.ned to selma many rep. pelosi: that is what john lewis was all about -- nonviolently insisting on the truth. he insisted on the truth in llnash in selma, in washington, d.c., at the lincoln memorial. he insiste on the truth wherever he went. and he insisted on the truth in

the congress of the united states. he always tked about truth rching on. he always worked for a more perfect union. judy: pioneering activist james lawson said lewis was leavinglea cy of working against oppression of all sorts. james: racism, sexism, violence, plantation capitalism -- s those poisonll dominate far too many of us, in many different ways. john's life was a singular journey from birth through the campaigns in the south and through congress, to get us to see that these forces of wickedness must be resisted. judy: it was left to the last of

ake former presidents to s today, barack obama, to deliver the eulogy. he chose to link john lewis's causes to the politics of now. pres. obama: there are those in power who are doing their darndest to discourage people from voting by closing polling locations and targeting minorities and students with restrictive i.d. laws, and attacking our voting rights with surgicalon precieven undermining the postal service in the run-up to an election. he knew that every single one of us has a god-given power, and that the fate of this democracy depends on how we use it. judy:ma the o eulogy was in keeping with lewis's forward-looking final words to americans, written shortly before he died, but published

today in "the new y times" and other outlets. he wrote, "in my life, i have done all i can to demonstrate that the way of peace, the way of love and nonviolence, is the more excellent way. now, it is your turn to let freedom ring. when historians pick up their pens to write the story of the 21st century, let them say that itas your generation who laid down the heavy burdens of hate at last, and that peace finally triumphed over violence, aggression, and war." late today, john lewis was laid to rest in his beloved atlanta. and how much this country owes that one man, john lewis. that's the "newshour" for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. in us online and to here tomorrow morning. for all of us p here,ase stay safe, and we will see you soon. >> major funding for the "pbsha

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