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troops as "losers," as joe biden captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good eveninuf i'm judy woo on the newshour tonight: campaign controversy. the president denies allegations he referred allen u.s. troops as "losers," as joe biden escalates his criticism of the administration. then, ongoing outrage. protests continue in rochester as t suspect in last weekend fatal shooting of a protester in portland ikilled in a confrontation with police. plus, health care and the pandemic. we compare the impact of covid-19 on the american medical system to other systems around the world. >> leadership's been pretty central across the world. when i look at countries across the world, how seriously leaders have taken the virus, how effectively they've
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mobilized forces, has had a very >> woodruff: and it's friday. david brooks and jonathan presidential candidates' responses to social unrest and government's push for a ronavirus vaccine. all that and more, on tonight's pbs newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: ♪ ♪ >> fidelity wealth management. >> for 25 years, consumer cellulno has been offering ontract wireless plans, designed to help people do more of what they like. our u.s.-bed customer service team can help find a plan that fits you. to learn more, visit www.consumercellular.t
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august. less than previous monthon while the na unemployment rate fell to 8.4%. we'll have more on the economy later in the progrhe. but first,allout intensified today over an article that alleges thap president trde disparaging remarks about u.s. troops. >> it's fake story, and it's a disgrace that they're allowed to do it. >> brangham: president trump is firing back, after a report " the atlantic" magazine-- and later confirmed by multipl news organizations-- said the president several times called fallen americaservice members" losers" and "suckers." in the oval office today, the president again flatly denied ever making the comments, and instead touted military spending under his administration. >> there's nobody that considers the military, and especially people that have given their lives in the military. to me, they're heroes.
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>> who the heck does he think he is? >> brangham: his democratic op, former vice president joe biden, whose own son beau served in iraqcalled the vported comments "deplorable." >> when my sunteered and joined the united states and went to iraq for a year,al won the bronze star and othe commendations, he wasn't a >> brangham: secretary of state mike pompeo, who was on a 2018 trip to paris when the president mmlegedly made some of these ts, told fox news he doesn't remember them. >> i've never heard the president use the language that assertively is said in that article. >> brangham: but going back to hias2016 campaign, mr. trump had a complicated relationship with the military. amazing people. these are amazing people. y brangham: he's often praised those with militperience, and has had many working with him in the white house... >> i don't le losers. >> brangham: ...but other times, he's questioned thr service, like his widely-criticized
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comments about senator john mccain, who was tortured and years during the vietnam war. >> he's a war hero because he was captured. i like peoplwho weren't captured. >> brangham: president trump overwhelmingly won amongte ns in 2016, but since then his approval rating among members of the military hasn dropped to 38%new poll from "military times." with two months until election day, mr. biden has a four-point advantage with these voters. for the pbs newshour, i'm wiiam brangham. be protests and outrage over police response in the u.s., and how demonstrators are responding each other, including a pair of deadly incidents. amna nawaz has an hdate on whatpening in rochester, new york, and portland, oregon.e >> nawazyorkers today awoke to more details, but still
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many questions, months afterno the death ofer black man, daniel prude, after an encounter with rochester pice. >> hey, hey, which side are you on, my people? >> nawaz: the renewed focus follows more protests, after video emerd wednesday showing prude in police custody in march. police handcuffed prude after he ran naked into the street. officers say he was spitting, and put a hood on his head as part of new statewide covid- safety rules. they then pressed his face into the pavement for two minutes. prude died a week later. the coty medical examiner ruled his death a homicide caed by asphyxiation, and lied acute intoxication fr the drug p.c.p. as a contbuting factor. his family says prude had struggled with mental health issu. >> first and foremost. >> nawaz: the head of the rochester police union said today the video misrepresented what happened, and that officers so-called "spit hood" during the pandemic. >> an officer does not have the ability to go or disregard what
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they're mandated to do, and what they're trained to do. >> nawaz: prude's family is calling for the officers to be arged.and >> that was a full-fledged lynching. >> nawaz: on thursday, the mayor suspended seven officersvo ed, with pay, and apologized to the family. >> mr. daniel prude w failed by our police departmentt our mental hare system, by me.ciety, and he was failed ( protests ) >> nawaz: meanwhile across theco try in portland, oregon, protests took a deadly turn aster the saturday shooting of a maciated with a right-wing group. the shooting suspect, who self-identified as a left-wing anti-fascist, last nht was enforcement, who'd tracked him to neighboring wasngton state. ( protests ) protests in portnd are expected to continue this weekend, as the nation marks
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100 days since the death of george floyd. for the pbs newshour, i'm amna nawaz. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, authories in cleveland, ohio are investigating the fatal shooting of a police detective who had just joined the f.b.i.'s violent crime task force. he was killed last night in his car, along with an informant, during an undercover drug operation. officials arrested three people and are looking for more suspects. the u.s. has now recorded more than 187,000 covid-19 deaths. that comes amid fears of a rise in new cases going into the labor day weekend. in geneva, the world health organization warned that vaccines may not be widely available until mid-2021. the agency warned that it wouldn not recommenuntil proven safe, and stressed that their distribution must be a global effort. >> the first priority must be to vaccinate some people in all countries, rather than all
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people in some countries. usg vaccines as a global public good is in the national interest of each and every country. >> woodruff: also today,ss scientists in belatedly published results from early trials of their covid vaccine. its developers said it appeared to be safe and triggered a "sufficient" immune response. the gornment approved it last month, without undergoing large-scale trials. the department of homeland security has warned that russia is working to undermine the american public's trust in voting by mail. a new intelligence bulletin said that the kremlin is spreading false claims that mail-in ballots are vulnerable to fraud and manipulation. ny of those unfounded claims have been echoed by president trump and his attorney general, william barr. in massachusetts, former marine jake auchinclo won the primary to be the democratic
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congressman joe kennedy iii.u.s. results from tuesday's eleion were delayed after cities were baundated by nearly a million mail-iots. kennedy decided not to seek re-election so he couldin challengmbent senatoren ed markey, butdy lost that race on tuesday. crews in beirut spent the day ppsearching for a possible survivor one month after the devastating blast. rescue workers painstakingly d debris after a search dog flagged a possible body and rescue tea detected a pulsing signal from beneath a destroyed building. the massivexplosion killed some 190 people and injured 6,000 others. and on wall street today, stocks added to their losses on the heels of yesterday's sell-off. the dow jones industrial average fell 159 points to close at 28,133. the nasdaq lost 145 points, and
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the s&p 500 shed 28. still to come on the newshour: americans continue to feel the financial stresses ocovid, as the economy struggles to recover. hong kong adjusts to life under a draconian national security law imposed by the chinese government. we compare the impact of covid-19 on the american medical system to other systems around the world. and, much mo. >> woodruff: the economy is continuing to climb back from the worst depths of paemic. today's unemployment report did contain od news about
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more workers returning to the labor force, b hiring slow. the u.s. economy has now recovered about half of the 22 mlion jobs shed during the plunge. before we look at the latest, let's hear from a few americans about e huge struggles they are facing. >> my name is umut bayramoglu. i live in lawrence, kansas.na >> m is michael dorsey. i'm in san diego, california. >> my name is shawn nanney. i'm fr martin, tennessee. >> my weekly unemployment benefits is $317 a week.t my r $290 a week. well, it doesn't take much math. i made $317, minus $290. that's $27 a week. so, that's-- that's it. >> this is the first time in my life that i've applied for any sort of assistance at all. i started going to the food bank in march. and that was a difficult adjustment to make. it was a food bank that i actually previously had volunteered for.
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>> i was pursuing my ph.dqu we didn'ify for unemployment insurance. i had to unfortunatelyasake the callweek to sell my house. and i guess i was fortunate enough that it happeetty quickly. but it was, you know, it was house. and i had to give that up in order -- so that i could have health insurance, so that, you know, that i could i could pay my bills. i'm in debt, maxed out my credit cards, and-- not really a lot of options. >> we are one people, one country. if one of us hurt is ju like in your family, your brothers hurt, you're hurting. and you help your brother out. >> woodruff: thank youach one of you. millions of americs are enduring exactly the sort of profound economic hardship we just heard about. given that, what do day's jobs numbers tell us? diane swonk is chief economist
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with grant thorton. she's back to help us with some answers. do diane, welcome back.o the newsho so 1.4 million jobs added last month. what does that tell us?th >> wellgood news is that we generated over a million jobs in the private sector, but 240,000 of those job gains were temporary census hires that will go go away at the end of september so we still had a million job gains, million job gains in the private sector the problem that is not nearly enough or fas enough to get us out of this deep hole we are still in, which is more than 11 million from the peak we saw in february. that is a huge number compared to the 8.8 million jobs we lost during the great recession, so we really are still st of chasing a moving target here, and the pace of job growth is a slowin our ability to pull workers back in from the side lineis starting to diminish, in fact, we lost 3.7 millio workers in the labor force since that peak in february, so if you
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incled those as unemployed, you would have an unemployment rate closer to ten percent or highan what we have today, the official rate of 8.4 percent. also, the ranks of the permanently unemployed are rising right now, and that is something that we don' want to see happening right now, the people that are on long-term unemployment and have figured out they are not going to beed recao their jobs and are are in a still socially distant world isrising. >> woodruff: and as we said, fewer jobs added in august that have been added in june and july. which sectors, diane swonk, are doing well oro bust and which ones areg?truggl >> well, there is real no robust sectors out there. the finance sector has lost the fewest number of jobs but every major sector has lost jobs since february. and that is important to remember as we look at this data. of course the leisure and hospitality sector lost the most jobs and has regained the most jobs, but they there are still 4.4 millkn down from their p
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in february and that really ives you a sense of even as we reopen how much a struggle for restaurant and bars to be able to fully restaff when you still need to sially distance, the same is true of hotels. that is really what the moral ot thy is, those hardest hit, the low wage jobs hardest hit are the hard toastring back, and of course there are still many workers working from home or they are at home and being paid, but not working. those workers, 11.4 percent of the uemployed, thosworkers are important, of the employed are important because they are the most vulnerable forof additional l as we go into the fall. and that includes highway work, high wage workers as well, even though low wage workers continue to get get he hit the hardest and women have sort of not even come back into the labor force. we goa ne uptick in labor force participation but it wasn't by women because oid course theirare still online and at home, and that makes it harder for them to rejoin the labor force.
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that's really compromising many household's ability to pay fort food and re you noted in your earlier segment by all of those voices of people that a still struggling. >> woodruff: so quickly, diane swonk, the rean that jos respect coming back faster than they are, it all goes bacto covid? >> you ca't -- actually we cannot -- the course of covid will determine the course of the economy, as viruses surge aga the heels of colleges and schools reopening, you see again people pull backand we rally have seen a plateau in job growth, a slowdown in the pace job grh, and a plateau in spending at the place wes need to seeob growth most, restaurants, bars and hotels, so that really is hard going into what will be a colder season and an inability to also have outside service at many of these establishments. >> woodruff: so tough hearing thisnd hearing these stories of real americans, diane swonk, thank you so much, good to see you.
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>> you too.>> oodruff: >> woodruff: a letter released by u.n. human rights officials today blasted a new national security law in hong kong imposed two months ago by china. and, with its now-customary fire, beijing shot back, telling ."e u.n. to "stop meddli special correspondent divya gopalan tells us now what's changed in hong kong, and what has not. >> reporter: this is one of the few places whe evince of months of anti-government protests last year is still displayed openly. owe yau lei fong restaurant is knfor its traditional roast meat and a timeline of the
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2019 protest movement. but look a little closer, and you'll find black tape covering the slogans that became the anthems for the protests. restaurant ownererry chong efys they've obscured anything which could be ded as subversive after china's communist party imposea wide-ranging national security law on july 1. >> ( tranated ): not a single person could tell us, or define what was against the law. what can you say, what can't you say? it's really hard to say how i feel, but there's fear in everyone's hearts. >> reporter: beijing says the law is necessary to bring stability after months of sometimes violent anti- government protests last year. it targets crimes of terrorism, subversion and secession and collusion with foreign powers. one of the leaders of the democracy movement here, activist joshua wong, says he is in the cross-hairs of the law.
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political party hours before it came into effect.>> y life is in risk. and i am not sure if hong kong poli will knocy door at 5:00 a.m., storm into my house and arrest me suddenly. the newly set-up, g-ising fear: controlled security agency, which operates outside of the city's legal system.of ficers can investigate and exadite suspects to the communist-controlled courts of mainland ihina. >> thea particular clause which in very rare circumstances will enae a case which occurs here to be transferred to the mainland for trial. >> reporter: grenville cross was hong kong's longest-serving chief prosecutor, and is now an honorary professor at two of the city's top universities. >> now as i understand it, that will only happen extremely rarely and in clearly defined circumstances-- circumstancesit where hong konlf is not able to handle the case.
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>> reporter: the law marks beijing's full takeoveof hong kong, which was promised 50 of relative autonomy aft the british hand-over in 1997. in response, the trump administration removed the special trade and economic privileges granted to hong kong, saying it's now just like any other part of china. >> ( translated ): we have our independent legal systems.ou we havindependent currency. we are using the common law as our legal system, thrule of law. it's still very different from china. >> reporter: pro-beijing legislative councilor felixep chung, whosents the textile and garment industry, says the united states is complicit in stripping away the international statrded s i don't think hong kong changed by that law. hong kg is changed by the international conflict especially bween the u.s. and
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china. >> reporter: but according to the american chamb of commerce, the national security law is affecting the business 40% of u.s. companies surveyed had plans to move capital, assets or operations out of the city. police can raid premises without a court warrant, and they can order internet firms to remove content or seize their equipment. online media giants like facebook and google say they have stopped responding directly requests from the hong kong police. a number of activists, students, and protestors have already been arrested for social media posts. and with no clear wording of what exactly is illegal, any activity: secessionist, demanding independence, saying that "hong kong is not china," could be prosecutable. at stake is the city's freedomh of sped vibrant media industry, which doesn't exist anywhere else in china. according the hong kong
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government, the national security law only targets aal minority of lawbreakers, but it has triggered widespread unease. we've certainly felt it while putting together this report, with a number of previously- tspoken figures from both sides of the political divident refusing ourview requests, due to concerns that what they say could potentially be used against em. although it is here, in the local press, where the most chilling effect the law can be felt. the "apple daily" is t city's most-read pro-democracy newspaper. on august 11, 200 police stormed the newsroom in a raid that was live-streamed to a shocked city. they arresd top executives, including the paper's billionaire owner jimmy lai, who has strong ties in washiton. he faces charges of colluding with foreign countries, a charge he's told the newshour late last month that's opeto interpretation. >> they are very strict about
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collusion with a foreign power. even now, accepting your interview could be con with foreign power. so, i have to be cautious of what i say, you know? so, this is the fact of life here now. >> rorter: the political landscape is also rapidly changing after a dozen democratic candidates who do not support the law were disqualified from legislative council elections.in then, n unprecedented move, the september vote was postponet for a year--horities say e to the pandemic, but the opposition says it's to wipe out democratic support. art, culture and academics are omalso under pressure to b more beijing friendly. public libraries have pulledem books byracy advocates, while many publishers and bookstores have started self- censoring. bookshop owner daniel li says there's still demand for books about the protests, and he'll keep them on the shelves as long as he can. >> the greatest worry is surely
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that they come in one day anho tell me that books even that has not been on the book list, are banned from being sold, and i've already breached the law. >> reporter: but on the streets of hong kong, there e still adapting to the lae, even as its lennon walls, named after the nger for their messages solidarity and democracy, were a distinct feature of the protests, which disappeared almost overnight when the law came into effect. they are now sprouting again in many places across the city, this time as a blank mosaic. >> i would say that national security law tried to kill hong kong, but it cat kill hong kong people. with the spirit of hong kongers, we will continue to resist and fight back. >> reporter: a message that, while beijing can force the city in line with the rest of the country almost overnight, it will take a lot more than a law to change the people of the city. for the pbs newshour, i'm divya gopalan in hong kong.
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>> woodruff: let's turn to our series on universal health care in tee different nations, and concerns in our own country. william brgham filmed this series before the pandemic exploded. tonight, he looks atow those countries have responded to covid since then, and what lessons they may prode. >> brangham: we started this series in houston, texas, looking at the u.s. health care system. united kingdom, switzerland, and australia, asking, how is it they've managed too what we haven't-- achieve universal health care? but one thing we didn't address is how those nations dealt with this novel coronavirus. does a universal health system give inherent advantages when a pandemic occurs? to answer that, i spoke again recently with our collaborator on this series, dr. ashish jha, newly-appointed dean of
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brown university's school of public health. how did you help these countries f australia, mosquito hear land and the uk, how did ey handle to the pandemic? >> the bottne is all three of those countries have done a much better >> the bottom line is, i think all three of those countries have done a much better job than we have.lo there's variation. they're not all the same. the u.k. probably has handled io tht of the three. they had quite a bad outbreak in the beginning, and a lot of people got sick and a lot of people died. but they're in much better shape now than we are.o and the other untries, both switzerland and australia, i think, have really been exemplars of how you handle this pandemic. we saw in switrerland not just ly good messaging that led to a pretty substantial lockdown, but then ao government engagement in buying protective equipment that helped protect doctors and nurses australia, i think, has been terrific at building up their testing infrastructure. they are testing widely with very, very low-percentage
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of positive tests. so the strategies look different in each country, but each of them did different things really well. >> brangham: and how much of that do you credit to the structure of their actual health care systems? >> so i would say, a little. there's no doubt about it that there are features of their health care system that gave them certain advantages over us, and over ours. but overall, the big i differenreally about the public health response, which has been vy differenth in e those three countries compared to the us. >> you touched on this, butw ch does a nation's political leadership rely on how well they respond?ki i'm th in particular of people who've talked about the fact that the u.k. has boris johnson and his cabinet, was as influential in the u.k.'s response as compared to having their national health system. >> i would say leadership's beer ty central across the world. when i look at countries across the world, how seriously leadern
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have the virus, how effectively they've mobilized forces, has had - has had a very dramatic effect. and so, even boris johnson, who i think initially did not take the virus as seriously, really struggled with what the u.k.'s response should be, eventually got on board with a much more science-driven process. of course, he himself up getting infected and-- and quite sick, and i suspect that probably lped shape some of his thinking about the seriousness of this-- of this virus. but certainly both in switzerland d australia, we saw very different types of leadership, much more engagement-- less, much less misinformation coming from political leaders. >> brangm: when you look at the u.s. response, are there-- are there aspects of our health care system and the way we structure health care in america that impacted our ability to respond? t >> you knore are. y mean, there are obviou a lot of strengths of our health care system-- fabulous doctors and nurses, really but some of the payment issues, i think, have really hindered
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us. there are examples like, to start testing healthcareanted workers, we couldn't figure out who was going to pay for it. andthe bigger issue in my m has been-- even though the policy response has been, ovid care,"y for the truth is, americans, especially with high-deductible health plans or peopleon't have insurance, are deeply worried about costs.. and rightly and that has really prevented them from seeking care.ou and,now, that kind of fear in the middle of a pandemic really makes it hardor people to do whats necessary. and so i think as we emerge from this pandemic, we're going to really have to look at payment system and ask, do we really want people to act like consumers in the middle of a pandemic? we really need people to fe that extra set of stress, or can we find a better way? >> brangham: at the riskf sounding a little too general, is there something about the way those three nations have responded to the pandemic that you think we could learn, if, god forbid, we have to go through this again >> yeah, absolutel so those three countries have
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all done it a little differently, right? there's a lot of variaon among them. but when you look at the t consistemes, there are two or three things that i think really stand out. onhis consistent public hea messaging. you did not hear their leaders undermine scientific guidance.in i that's been really critical. second is, all of them have had much more substantial investments in public health. the u.k. has built up this fabulous testing and tracing infrastructure. they don't think it's as ndfabulous as it could be, maybe it's not, but it's certainly much better than ourss what y with switzerland was this incredible investment sure that the health care workers were protected through p.p.e.s. again,he government getting much more engaged. so, strikes me that messaging is really important. ing in the things that a outside of the health care system is important. and en, a central role for government to coordinate all of this, becausmethis is not ing the private sector can figure out on its own. this is not something a fragmented systecan figure out on its own.
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it's a pandemic. it ruires that kind ofer cod response. >> brangham: dr. ashish jha, dean of the brown school of public healt as always, thank you so much for your time, and thank you for all your help on this series. >> it was my pleasur thank you for including me and for being part of this. >> woodruff: now it's time for the political analysis of brooks and capehart. that's "new york times"co mnist david brooks, and "washington post" columnist jonathan capehart. mark shields is away. away so hello to both of you on this friday night. i want to start with somethings both candidaid. id, thatt to a city, dav is, where people are truly in in anguish over the shootg of a black man. his name is jacob blake, it is kenosha, wisconsin, we saw both of them go, make statements.
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what did you mak david, of their different approaches? >> well, they were both ve true to their core mission, what they have been running on,ly especihis year but maybe since the beginning of their political careers, donald trump has been runn a sense of menace, the fact there is a lot of danger out there in the word and she the one to restore order, and so the keystone ofhi visit was the image of him standing in front of a burned out buildings and he wants to anvey that message. joe biden has rs a uniter and so he went to speak to the blake family, pleased them very much witthe sensitivity of what they were going through and you have to say the evidence so far is that the law a order campaign that trump has been running since the convention has not shown much impact on the polls. he is still down seven or eight points, if y ask people on a whole range of measures which candidate makes you feel safe, biden wins on anyway you ask that question, biden wins, if you ask people is donald trump making it worse?
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55 percent say donald trump is making it worse. so the law aer ordessage a least so far, as expressed through kenoshanot working. >> woodruff: jonathan, how did you sethis?>> ell, judy, i look at it, at the two trips like. rhis one was a political -- both were political tips but one was political, the other was presidential. president trump's trip was strictly political, to david's point, it was all about law and order. was all about stoking fear, like grievan, white fear, of black people, standing with law enfoement, which on its fae is not -- is not wrong or bad or problematic, but in a city ere a 17-year-old shot -- allegedly shot at three pple, killed two of them and those same police officers rolled riht by him, the president ha had nothing but good things to say about that person as part of a a
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millish, i can't right wing militia, and so the president goes to kenosha to, you know, buttress that. joe biden, on the oer hand, i think did presidential trip. he went to the kenosha community to meet with the community, met with the blake family, apparently talked wh jacob blake, but the community meeting he did at a cal church where he heard from all sorts of folks from the comtymuas him sitting, listening, respondinga in kind an young woman, bennett who deeacided not to rd the list of demands from her organization, but inste cided to talk from the heart and talk to vice president biden about how, quote, heavily angry she and her community are about not being treated fairly and the way joe bideton responde that i think was sort of a bottom overthe, balm over the entire
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situation because in situations that happen, as have happened ie sha, people look to the president for calm, foler ership, they got that from joe biden, but joe biden isn't the president. >> woodruff: well, we both candidates during this past week have released tv ads a that address racial unrest, address protests around the police. here is just a short clip from each one. >> rioting is not protesting, looting is >> rioting is not protesting. looting is not protesting. 's lawlessness, plain and simple, and those who do it should be prosecuted. fires are burning, and we have a president who fans the flames. he can't stop the violence, because for years he's fomented it. >> lawless criminals terrorize kenosha. joe biden takes a knee. biden and the radical left's weak response has led to chaos and violence, and their calls for defunding policeould make >> woodruff: david are
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these messages telling you? >> well, biden did something he his party failed to do ring the convention which was to acknowledge there is disorder in the country, crime really is rising, and there has been rioting and looting, it is not the mainstream of the protests but it has been an oeleme the protest, maybe eight percent of the protests turn violent that is st sll a lot all on people's minds and so that speech and the adhey cut out of it he is acknowledging that statement which we talked about last week of setting a boundary that rioting and looting areot protesting. and that he is going crack down on that and that waskn acledge ago real flaw in the democratic approach at the convention where they just didn't see that reality and so i think he helped himself. i mean, his team, the down side of his team is they are really experienced and they have been a part of the democratic party for a long time. the upside of his team is they are really experienced and they know howrun a campaign. and so i think they have run a
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very effective campaign, straight through and it showed again this week. >> woodruff: jonathan, does that add help, does that ad help joe biden?>> i think that ad hee biden because he makes a clear line, which is, obvious to folks on the ground that there is -- there is atinct difference between the peaceful protesters who are out there wanting their voices heard about what happened to jacob blake being st in the back seven times by a police officers, that young woman i just mentioned, por she even in her remarks said she was there speaking not for the protest -- not for the rioters and the looters, no, she is there saking on behalf of the protesters who want equity, and i do grink, i with david, vice president biden put that ad out there and made it clear tha he draws a line and a distinction and i don't think he is rctinto president trump ro much as he is reflecting the
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reality on the d and the reality as the protesters see it. they are nopart of the riters or the looters either. ck woodruff: two other qui things i want to ask you both about, and one, david, has todo with several announcements from the administration in recent days about rapid testing for covid, the president talking about we are going to have a vaccine this fall, maybe in october.is ll this likely to be effective in changing the minds of voters who are skeptical about his leadership? or just don't know what to think? >> well, we will have a vaccine -- like a weebefore the election, probably not going to work, it is not the way science works, but but i have to give t administration some credit on the rapid testing and -- comes with a breakthrough that gives you a chance to do testing fast and the administration poured a lot of money toward that 0 t15o
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gemillion of these tests and for all of the flaws of the administration's covponse they have done a decent job of pouring money toward a vaccine and to grd testing so iive them some credit on that, from what i understand this test is not the ultimate solution for a testing, you want to be able to test at home, et cetera, but if we could do rapid testing you could test as people go into schools and conferences anddi bus, that could be effective, that is a step back give them some credit whereto credit is due, they buta lot of money into this. >> woodruff: clearly, everybody wants vaccine as soon as possible. jonathan, what about the political fects of this? >> well, what is unfortunate about what nie adration is rapid testing, a rack seene coming before the election, not so sure about that, but it seems that all of these moes are being made not becau of compassion for the sick and for the infected and for those who died, but as a political
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maneuver to shore up a politicat problem he president has. he has not been handng the aesponse to the coronavirus pandemic well a and i think what the american people have been looking for is where is the national plan, what are you s doing eguard our health, but by extension, safe guard our livelihoods, because the pandemic has hit us in our health, but it also is hitting us an the pocketbod our livelihoods. f: finally to both of you this article that raised a lot of eye eyebrs that has jst come out in the atlantic overnight, jeffrey goldberg reporting from anonymous sources but in his words crib sources that the 43 used words like suckers and losers over the course ohis presidency talking about people who served in the military, people who died in war, he -- the white house
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completely denies this. do you see something like this ect?ng an e >> yes. i mean, goldberg, the whole series of scoops coming out of the pentagon and the defense department and administration is -- for the case now so he is a high credibility journalist, this story has now been confirmed by several other news organizations, including fox news, and so we can fully expect that he did cal- l -he dishonored the war dead by calling them losers and suckers and it is no utso farf each of what he said in public about john mccain and others so i find it completely credit and the idea that a guy who is offended by colin kaepernick taking a knee, he says that dishonors the country but calling the war dead losers, that is absurdity. and so people are rightly ofdended, i mean we get off by this guy on an hourly basis, but this is an offense that go the core of conservative value sy mem. thlitary value system. and what has been shocking to me this year is already even before
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this happens, according to surveys, there are tive military personnel they were already for biden which is extremely rare for the active military to be for democrats, and so he was already in trouble with this group and it has gotot to -- it has to trouble everybody who is in and out of uniform. >> woodruff: jonathan, what are you thinking iabout ths? >> i didn't think i could be shocked anymore, particularly since charlottesville abouthat the esident says or thinks about things or individuals. i was horrified by what i read, attributed the preside of the united states where jeffrey goldrg got basically on four sources and the fact that to david's point it has been corroborated by oths organizations, including my own, the "washington post"ls you and it is shamefut i think what is even more shameful is
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the silence froepublican leaders around the nation and from capitol hill.ru >> wo: tough subject, vtough -- tough eerything right now. it is hard to think of something -- something uplifting, but of n you for here, jonathan capehart, david brooks, thank you. a>> woodruff: stay with u we reflect on some of the lives lost due to covid-19. but first, take a moment to hear from your local pbs station. it's a chance to offer your support, which helpsp programs like ours on the air.
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>> woodruff: the coronavirus pandemic has dealt a huge blow to the music industry. concerts as we knew them were one of the first things to be canceled, and will be among the last to start. we take a second look at jeffrey brown's report. this encore presentation is part of our ongoing arts and culture series, "canvas." ♪ ♪ >> reporter: derrick jones, better known by his stage name, "d-nice," calls it "club quarantine"... ♪ ♪ ...a creative response born of necessity in march when covid-1e brought usic performances to a stop. >> i'm used to interacting with people and feeling energy from people, i mean, you can drop a hot record and you can watch the crowd go crazy.ou well, how doyou know, do that online? >> reporter: a prominent hipppop producer, , and d.j. who's used to playing live in clubs around the world, he nowor
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ped from home, on instagram live, spinning records for hours, mixing in conversations with fellow artists, watching the digital reowd swell, from a few hu to more than 100,000 around the world.y >> oh,d, michelle obama is in here! michelle obama is in here! >> reporter: including celebrities as eager as everyone else for a dance party. what does it do for you in terms of reaching an audience? because it's really a totall different way interacting with an audience, right? >> oh, totally. i just started reading the comments and i would just pay attention to what they were saying and the energy that they were fling. and also there a feature on instagram where someone is--ne if soms appreciating what you're doing or saying or enjoying that conversation, they will constantly hit the heart button. i just kept seeing hearts flying every time i would play a song, hearts were just flying. and that was the energy that i
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was feeling. honestly, it is one of the most exciting feelings that i've had cently in terms deejaying. >> reporter: the pandemic has arts, with concert halls, clubs and theaters shut down, andif forced arent kind of survival-mode creativity. ♪ ♪ more recently, "live" has s,returned, in limited way show the audience in or near their cars, distanced from one another. ♪ ♪ the rock band spafford was one of the first to try a drive-in concert in the u.s., in mesa, arizona, in may.d- co had cut short the band's nationwide tour in march. in theonths following, they held zoom calls, practiced in their homes, and came up with plans for the drive-in show. brian moss is spafford's guitarist. you were probably worried out
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when you would get up there at all, right? so there you were. and what happened? >> it felt totally new. you know, i was i was playing a g chord and i was like, man, this is just the best sounding g chord i could ever py. like, every note had aifferent feeling. it felt like i was re-learning how to play in a band, like, all over again. and it was totally vulnerable. and it's-- that's kind of where i want to be when i'm on the stage, because that's where the risks happen and that's where the fun starts. >> reporter: a magical moment, and maybe more to come. the global entertainmentiv company,nation, put on a three-city drive-in "tour" with big names like brad paisley and nelly.but for bands like spaffo, is this a viable solution going >> no, this is not necessarily a way for the band to make up for all the income lost with all of the other shows in the year.y
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this is not a keep the band financially stable. it won't break us, but the joy of playing music and the joy of bringing music to our fans is the most important part in something li this. >> reporter: but artists aren't the only ones impacted by the lost revenue. >> it feels like there's a death sentence hanging over our industry. >> reporter: dayna frank is owner of first avenue in minneapolis, a legendary 50ear-old minneapolis club where, among much else, prince perform and filmed "purple rain." now it sits empty, its 500 employees dwindled to 20. >> it doesn't surprise me at people are out there experimenting and trying to provide this service and value for their community. but it's not-- it's not revenue stream. it's not a solve for the dustry.yi it's like to fill a swimming pool with a drop of water. you know, it's fun, and, like, it provides some distractions and some meaningful experiences for people, but it doesn makeur a businessve. >> reporter: frank is president of the national independent venue association, which formed in april, and hired a lobbying firm to press congress for a lifeline. the group now has nearly 2,000 member venues, including many
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that have made a mark in music history. she says clubs like hers have their communities.impacts on she cites a studdoshowing everllar spent on a ticket generates $12 of economic sactivity for local busin like restaurants, hotels and cabs. but there's even more at stake than dollars. what's lost if a club like yours >> i can't even-- it's so hard to think about. you lose an entire subset of culture, you lose experiences that people maybe didn't even know they could have. you ow, we-- our venues, our spaces are where people go to celebrate the st night of their lives, they meet their spouses there. they have these like intense emotional and just cultural experiences. that can't be held anyplace else. >> reporter: where will the music go from re? d-nice is still spinning, but wondering what's next. this isn't a substitute for a
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live performance, is it? do you continue on with club quarantine or what happens? >> so, i don't think this ist a substitutel,ecause there's nothing like being in front of a live audience, you know. that energy is unmatched. like, me, like, discontinuing, any of these performances infu thre, because i happen to like this, too. i think this is a great addition. t i knt the music is ultimately saving lives, you know. its, you know-- i don't want to think of myself as an essential worker, but i knowre that tre people out here that truly needed this >> reporte for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown. >> woodruff: as yeanother devastating week comes to an end, we want to take theime to honor individuals who have
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fallen victim to this deadly virus. lilian teret was a fighter, her dauger said. born in guatemala, lilian came to the united states at 22 years old. life wasn't easy. she woke up at 3:00 in the morning to start working, oftenr taking on twore jobs to support her two children. for 20 years, she worked in a los angeles county middle schooi cafe beloved by the teachers and students for her cheerfulness. lilian was 54 years old. 62-year-old james mahoney was described by his sister as a supportive father of three and a caring doctor. he went by "charlie," and when his desire to play professional baseball didn't pan out, he turned to medicine. charlie spent more than three decades serving his students and patients in brooklyn, most recently as a critical care
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his sister said chwasspitals. quiet owing up, but was outgoing with his patients. alexernard was known as "pastor alex," an outreach pastor in downey, california who preached, fed, and helped others, includins.mexican inma a program that saved alex from thug abuse at a young age introduced him tministry he served for 30 years. with his wife, he helped others rebuild their lives. the 57-year-old was silly and compassionate, his daughter said. he was a father to eight, including four adopted children. dwontreze lovett was a big guy with a bigger heart, his mother said. following in her footsteps, dwontreze became a barber. he was known for the sound advice and mentoring he gave to anyone in his chair. with his five-yearld daughter,he
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trived to be the father he never had. they loved spending time with their dogs and going to the local park in hazelwood, missouri. in february, he wed the love of his life in a ceremony surrounded by family. dwontreze was 29 years old.ur jeffman was full of aloha, or love, his friend said, kn hn for his wart and giving titure. the los angeles moved to honolulu when r turned 18. re than three decades, jeff worked as a flight liattendant for hawaiian as. spiritual, an adventurer, and lover of the outdoors, jeff was also an id photographer. wherever he went, he had his camera with him. jeff was 60 years old. and we thank all of them. and that's the newshour for
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