judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight -- western wildfires. we are on the ground in oregon, as major fires burn across the region, made worse by gh winds and extremely dry conditions. then, at an impasse, with unemployment claims ing high, congress still does not agree on an economic relief package for covid-19. les securing the vote -- russia , d two other countries target the presidential campaigns as a senior homeland secuty official accuses department leaders of politicizing reports. and, the virtues of going virtual --he pandemic prompts a major shift in the treatment of addiction and delivery of medication.

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across of the west coast tonight with no end in sight. , dozens of fires have killed at esast eight people, wiped out small towns, andoyed hundreds of homes in washington state, oregon and northern california. egins our coverage, reporting from south of portland. cat: the smoke was thick this morning in clackamas county, oregon, as some residents emerged from cars and tents in community college. the american red cross has set up a shelter currently open aroe state. many lined up for a warm breakfast, including 70-year-old nancy price and her husband dave silverberg, who is 90. they fled from nearby lalla and have been here for the last threnights, preferring to sleep in their car instead of inside the shelter. they have said, we have been told to evacuate immediately. so we just made sure we were

dressed and we headed out the door. cat: the couple, who say they are keeping their masks on and trying to stay a safe distance from other evacuees, have not yet heard if their hombeen saved. >> we don't know anything. that's the hardest part, not knowing anything, and knowing we can't go back. >> how longave you been staying in this one car? >> it has been a little tight. cat: tom waldon and his two sons james and jake are from estacada, oregon. >> there's so many otherhings going on. t know to feel or what t do. it's hard. cat: four wildfires have converged in this mostly rural county on the outskirts of portland and thousands are homes. ly evacuated from their firefighters have been battling blazes here for days tit progress has been hard due to weather condions. and fire crews are stretched thin. chad carter is a spokesman for the red cross. >> the state of oregon has been

tremendously impacted by the wildfires we are seeing utthroughe state. it is not just one wildfire, it is multiple.no righthere are thousands of homes and dealing with the mostr stressful and difficult past 48 hours of tt:ir lives. ca the fires in clackamas county are one of scores racing upnd down the pacific coast from southern california to washington state in oregon, officials estimate there are at least three dozen fires currently active, and they've descbed the situation as "unprecedented." >> we are now approaching over 900,000 acres burned across the state. to put that number into perspective, in the last years, we see an average of 500,000 acres burned in an entire year. we have seen that nearly doubles in thethree days. we have never seen this amount

of uncontained fire across our state. cat: so far, five towns in the state are believed to be all but leveled. in talent, oregon -- a hard hit community in the southern part of the state -- evacuees captured the harrowing scene as they tried to flee. fires stretching for miles and setting off explosions. meanwhile, in nearby medford, residents returned ecto survey the damage ander what little they could. >> my wife passed away five years ago. we came here to look for her ashes. erhing was here. we havnothing. cat: at the same time in northern california, high winds whipped wildfires ere to new fury. thofnorth complex fire nort sacramento grew six times in size in the span of just 24 hours. it now covers roughly 250,000 acres. just days ago, firefighters had managed to contain 50% of the blaze. today it is less than 25%. to the west the august complex

has become california's lergest fire ever, burning more than 730 square the speed and intensity of thee fires th and in other states -- have officials worried. already, a number of deaths have beeniaeported in both califo and oregon. and in washington, news of a one-year-old's death haveunhaken the coy and officials there. for those who escaped immedte danger,here is great uncertainty about when they might return and what they will find. in fact, many the people we met atodaythe red cross shelter in oregon city are asking those very questions. judy? judy: cat, it is just horrible. we can see from the color of e y where you are. people's lees turned ups down. how are they coping? cat: the people we talketo today, many said they are in a state of shock. everal people told they had to flee their homes really quickly, only got out with the

clothes on their back. many said, im exhausted after days of stressful situations. this is happening in their liven at a time eople have been stressed with covid and the pandemic happening. as you can see around me, the smoke is really bad here today. we saw f many people,amilies and ,childrid not have masks on. talked tle i mentioned family members with asthma. occasionally could hear people coughing outde. several people told me they felt they could not esce this bad air, the smoke, because there state. manyildfires across the where would we go? the wildfire smoke is everywhere. judy: you mentioned the ndemic. how is that affecting everything? cat: some people we talkedda to said they were concerned about going into the shelter, due to covid-19. get out the message they are trying to doing everything -- do

everything to keep peoeafe including temperature checks cleaning surfaces. they are handing out food and water outside. many people with the wildfires and covid-19. judy: so hard timagine all of it. cat wiseepting from clackamas county, oregon. thank you, cat. as cat reported, a number of small towns have been devastated by the fires. marion county, oregon has already seen its share. kevin cameron is one of the county commissioners. he lives in the small city of detroit, where many homes have burned down. he jns me now by skype from salem. mr. cameron, thank you so much ing with us you were evacuated. tell us about that experience. kevin: y tha, judy. it is good to be with you. mondayt evening 5:00 we were told, get ready to leave monday potentially at noon. 10:00 we went to bed.

atidght our phones blew up th emergency, geout now, shiff's going through the town with loudspeakers and sirens. we got on the road with a caravan at 1:00. go east end of the wast minute, t. they clear the road. getting down to about a 50ile drive to salem. about halfway down, the traffic backed up. the reason why, there was a fireball right in front of us. i had two vehicles. i was in a truck and one was following me. you could hearid on the the person behind me was taking video, and they were scared to death. are we going to burn up? d we shot be going this way. it was so smoky and fiery, i was looking down at the centerline and barely seeing. it was like nothing i have ever experienced before and nothing i would want anyone else to

experience. judy: what do you know about your own home, neighborhood, casualties andn:o forth? ke i am the marion county commissioner. yesterday the army corps needed to e get people to do hange in the dam, with our sheriff and fire apparatus. we were able to take a tour. the town is totalestruction. there was a line of eight homes onsy street. it miraculous and i have a little bit of survivor's guil that my home was one of those standing. around the town there are several homes here and there that are standing. but the marinas in the town are destroyed. the only thing standing on main street is a teeny po office. it is devastating. llthere were sires and power lines down. very dangerous still. judy: that is what i wanted to ask you, to what extent are the fires still threatenin area? kevin: the wind event that happened for almost 48 hourspu

ed the fires westbound. there are still spot fires. if the winds swirlround you can still have firesp there. the fires throughout the whole state have converged. we have other parts of marion county that have -- had to be evacuated. our state fairgrounds is the evacuation center and it is almost overflowing with animals and people that need shelter right now. judy:ou haven your years in oregon have seen anythingo compare with this, mr. cameron? kevin: nothing it has threatened homes and had mass, mass evacuations. we will have casualties. we already know of two. it will be a gruesome few days or weeks a we get back into the backcountry where a lot of people live because they do not want to be bothered and it is hard to get to when something like this happens.: ju such a terrible thing going on. our howards -- our hearts go out

to everyone involved. kevin cameron, commissioner, thank you very much. kevin: we will come back and build back stronger. thank you judy. ♪ judy: -- stephanie: i am stephanie sy with "newshour west." we will return to judy woodruff the top headlines. at least 16 people have died in the western wildfires. in clackamas county, oregon firefighters havbeen told to ngsengage as two large fires in the area are mer tonight the mayor of portland issued an emergency order, oregon law enforcement opened an arson investigation into the alameda fire in the southern part of the state. oversees a sprawling migrant

camp in greece lay in ruins today after a second fire as many nights. nearly all of the 12,000 refugees at the moria camp on the island of lesbos are now homeless. todayth they searcheugh debris for what was left of their belongings, but a greek spokesperson accused the migrants of starting the fire. >> they did this because they think if they torch moria they will indiscriminately leave the islands. we told them they did not understand. they will not leave because of the fire, except for tac mpanied minors who have alreadyfe been traed. therefore, they can forget whatever they had in mind when theyet the fires. stephanie: france and germany offered to take in children left homess by the fires. peace talks for afghanistan set to begin saturday in qatar. aliban announced it toda and officials confirmed it. the sides squabbled for months exchange as a prerte forsoner talks.

back in this country,im new c for jobless benefits stayed at 884,000 last week fresh evidence , that economic recovery may be slowing.e meanwhile, senpublican efforts to pass a new pandemic relief bill stalled again. a slimmed-down bill failed on a procedural vote. we'll take a closer look at all this, after the news summary. esident trump faced more fallout toy over charges that he misled the country about covid-19. a new book by bob wooard, including audio recordings of their conversation shows the , president knew the gravity of the virus early on, but played it down. at the white house today, he insisted he acted properly. es. trump: i didn't lie. what i said is we have to be calm outwardly i said it's a , we can't be panicked. outwardly i said it's avery serious problem. it is always a serious problem that does not mean i'm going to jump up and down in the air and gsay people ang to die, people are going to die. no, no, i'm not going to do that. we are going to get through this. judy: top democrats kept up:

-- stephan top democrats kept up strong criticism of the president's words today. the party's vice presidential nominee -- kamala harris -- spoke in miami. ms. harris we need leadership : that sees and recognizes the suffering and is prompted then and not what is inuth and fact political self interest, which is what we've seen in donald trump. stephanie: mr. trump is mcampaigning tonight higan, where the democratic governor warned the rally could spread the virus. twitter says it will start labeling or removing misleading claims that coulidundermine coce in elections. that includes false claims about ballot tampering or election sults. last may, the company began labeling some of president trump's tweets with fact checks. questions are being raised tonight about more potential manufacturing defects in boeing's 787 dreamliner. the latest issue invalves the vertail fin on the jet. the federalad aviation nistration reiterated it is

investigating several production flaws involving certain 787's. grave new numbers tonight show global wildlife numbers are down nearly 70% since 1970. the world wildlife fund points to human population growth and resource consumption as causes. in anewshour" interview, fam naturalist sir david attenborough said nais study and ongoing u.s. ral disasters are a wake-up call. sir attenborough: you've got rising sea levels. you had the cyclones, hurricanes moving through with greater ferocity ande. frequency than ever bef we see on our television, newsreel coverage of appalling things that happened in your country, devastation. stephanie:he study says the loss of biodiversity directly threatens the g.bal food supp actress diana riggie has in london after fighting cancer. tv series "the avengers,"960's playing secret agent emma peel.

d later she playee only woman ever to marry james bond. mo rently, rigg had a recurring role on "game of thrones," getting a new generation of fans dianyerigg was 8s old. still to come, congress remains stalemate over and economic relief package for covid-19. alexion security remains in question as multiple countries target both campaigns. we examine the u.s.' unevensp reonse to the pandemic and much more. ♪ >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios from washington and from the west from the walter cronkite school ofis journal from arizona state university. judy: congress tonight remain stuck over how to address the economic crisis from t pandemic. as we noted earlier, there were

not enough votes in the senate to advance a republican proposal, one that was not as far-reaching as other ideas floated in recent months. this morning, the republican and democratic leaders in the senate blamed the other side for the gridlock. >> republicans have tried repeatedly to build on the mc.a.r.e.s. act and ge help out the door to american families. democrats have blocked ust everyurn. they have invented different excuses each time. >> but this bill is not going to happenecause it is so aciated, so filled with poison pills, so partisanly designed. it was designed to fail.dy our yamichelcindor has been tracking progress on covid relief and joins me with an update. this bill went down to defeat, not enough votes.

tell us what was in it and what e ppened when it c for a procedural vote. yamiche: judy, this is the latest push to get some sort of coronavirus relief to americans who are badly in need of some help. this was a gop effort expected to fail and it did. it failed along party lines. every democrat in the senateis voted against bill, along with senator rand paul of republicans voted in lockstep with senat mitch mcconnell. this is seen as a success for mcconnell even though it failedk for and months, senate republicans in their own caucus could not figure out how to get together and combat something. this was called the skinny gop an and i will walk you through why it was called skinny. you had $650 billion in total spending, but only $300 billion in new spending. it would have repurposed $350 billion in previously approved

spending. thce would rephe $600 that expired july 31.there was moneyl businesses, coronavirus testing and schools, but no new stimulus checks or aid for state and local governments. this was republicans saying, here is what we can do. but it was vastlyfe dnt than what democrats did and what evmocrats wants. in may when the house passed their bill it was more than trip -- more than $3 trillion. both sides are far apart. judy: what now are republicans and democrats saying about coronavirus relief and the way forwar yamiche: both democrats d republicans are pointing fingers at each other and saying the other party is to bla. senator mitch mcconnell today saidemocrats would he wanted to support things in this bill, but we holding out for a bigger bill. we heard from democrats saying

mitch mcconne wanted political cover and was pushing forward this bill. the talks that stalled in august [indiscernible] they are still stalled. suggestions are now that congressmen adjourned witho a w deal. senator marco rubio, and lisa, on vacation this week, flagged this. he put out a video saying, sorry, american people we cannot pass any relief for you until after the election. judy: you cover the white house. e they saying they might try to do something with regard to covid relief? how is this affecting americans across the country? yamiche: essentially americans across the country who are terrifie and scared, a lot of them jobless, will not be able to get relief from the federal government anytime soon. e white house was talking about executive actions including putting money toward airline industries, school vouchers.

i talked to a white house source today that said many things they want to do, including payroll tax, is severely limited because they are the executive branch. congress controls the purse. essentially we have a stalemate where americans are left in the wind and struggling. ju: just extraordinary to see nothing happening. yamiche alcindor reporkng for us, thou. yamiche: thanks. ♪ judy: the u.s. alexion is a target. microsoft announces today russia, china and iran are trying to hack political parties, presidential campaigns and consultants. it comes one day after a

whistleblower from the u.s. department of homeland security russian interference and was under constant white house pressure to skew intelligence. nick i will start with you. what was it microsdat announced nick microsoft says foreign groups have stepped up groups targeting the election and cites three exa per the same russian intelligence unit that hacked and leaked in 2016 has targeted 200 organizations consultants.mpaigns, one analyst says they were targeted unsuccessfully, a -- biden.t for widen. chinese actors try to unsuccessfully target the biden campaign andn individual

formerly associated with the trump administration. iranian actors unsuccessfully tried to get information on trump officials. some have been successful, but details how russians are going ento newhs to avoid detection. officials said it is a sign of public private partnershd , but it sho noted there is no release of any stolen datatho influencelection so far. judy: with regardo russian influence, the trump administration was targetingod them. nick:hese are actions from the departments of treasury and spectrum of russian attempts to continue to influence the election. the treasury department sayin showed a ukrainian member of parliament, and active russian t,ag has released videos designed to disparage joe biden.

rthis is an example sia's ongoing attempt to weaponize divisions inside the u.s. those videos have been retweeted by president trump and cited by republican senator ron johnson. the department of justice charged a russian who manages an effort to influee elections. there is an ongoing russian disinformation campaig that has the same goal it did in 2016, create distrust in the u.s. political process and hel president trump. the independent analyst i spoke to said this is more proof pressure continues to be interested in tipping the scale while chinan and i are more interested in longer-term intelligence gathering operations. eth analysts fear the director of national intelligence is downplaying the active threat posed by russia instead of highlighting the longer-termch threat oa. let's talk about that.track o

amna, there was a whistleblower complaint, saying the administration is trying to downplay russian influence. tell us about that. amna: the whistleblower is a man named bryant murphy, he was a longgeime fbi. he is basically alleging in his complaint he was askedo t censor orkew intelligence would better lined up with president trump's messag and priorities. one complaint he says the acting secretary, chad wolf, told him to hold back on repdits of russianformation campaigns, to stop providing a sessions on the russian ection threat, and instead focus on iran and china. murphy says he refused to comply. official said there was constant oupressure from the white not to talk about the russian election threat. murphy h alleg was asked by the second income -- in command,

ken cuccinelli, to downplay white supremacist violence and include information on left-wing groups like antifa. isther complicated picture. one former official says he does not believe it is a priority for thehs agency to address the current white supremacist threat. judy: i saw today the president formally nominated chad wolf to be the secretary of homeland security. amna, you have been in touch with people at homeland security today. what are they saying about all this? amna: they flatly denthe claims. results of any invtion.he they say there is no truth murphy's claims. they said the agency is working rm address all threats to land -- to the homeland, regardless of ideology and chad wolf is focused on thwarting

interference from any foreign powers or extremist group. weanhould mention b murphy has been invited by house democrats on the housell inence committee to testify before a private session we will follow up then. judy: so much to keep trackinf, almost dizfor the american public, trying to follow what in goinn washington. thanyou so much, so much important reporting. amna nawaz, nick schifrin, thank you. ♪ judy: the political fallout from the president's comments to journalist bob woodward about the coronavis remains to be seen. but there are also questions about what more could or shauld been done when president trump realized the coronavirus was much more serious than he publicly acknowledged. the president says he was trying

to avoid creating a panic. william brangham explores some of those questions now. t willia washington post yesterday revealed that, for his new book, bob woodward interviewed president trump numerous times per it on this is said to woodward about the novel coronavirus -- pres. trump: you just breathe the air, that is how it is past. that is a tricky one, a delicate one. it is also more deadly than even your strenuous flus, more deadly. this is 5% versus 1% and less than 1%. this is deadly stuff. william: but at that time in public the president wri deng the gravity of the situation differently. three days later the president said thi-- pres. trum lks by april, in theory, when it gets warmer, am miraculously goes away, i hope it is true. william:wo weeks later after

the woodward call there was this reassurance. pres. trump: i itvery much under control. william: then the president implied in a tweet that the flu was worse than the virus. on the phone to fox news as the u.s. saw 20,000 new cases every day he said this -- pres. trump: it is fading away, it will fade ay. ntlliam: 20 me now to discuss the pres's response as well as our broader national response have covered this crisis as well as anyone i have read, ed yong of the atlantic magazine. you have heard the woodward tape wherehe president seems to understand the severity of the coming pandemic. yet we saw manyxamples of him talking very differently about it in publ and some would argue, acting differently in his how do we measure the consequences of thesi pnt's actions? ed: we have seen what happens

when the person in charge of the country's response is not up to the task. we have seen what happens when you put seone who lies expertise, who chooses to feedst his own ego rather than look after the welfare of his citizens. it is not good. trump is not by far thenly reason w america has failed so badly to control covid-19, but he is central to thent c's failure. his repeate attempts to downplay the pandemic, which we have heard now in stark detail, have lured much of the country into a false sense of security. myi argued latest piecet ab america's pandemic spiral, a disaster of thisal magnitude ys was going to be difficult to get our heads around.

william: regardless of who is in charge. ed: yes, it is too seductive to want to return to t norma fail to grasp the size and scope of the problem. but when the person in charge actively tells citizens everything is fine, it will go away, when he is boosting this teency to succumb to magical thinking or silver bullets, things get problematic. he contributed to this frayingio of the nl understanding of this crisis. william: in that e st recent pi the atlantic you also point the finger at our national citizens response. you rights,ryhe couas consistently thought of the pandemic in these same unproductive ways. give me some examples, what do you mean? ed: w bounc from one solution to another without understanding that to control the pandemic,

you need a lot of different soluons. roour attention flied social distancing to masks to treatments to a vaccine. nhid all of theses. we need to do testing, contact tracing. we need to put a these measures together, but we seem to only focus on one thing at a ti. so that is one issue. end to focus on blami individuals rather th fixing broken systems. it is easy to posot a finger at one who is having a party or not wearing a mask correctly than it is to look at all the broken institutions, the car several state, health care system, nursin homes, all the rest that have jeopardized the country has a tendency to go from moralism instead of putting in the structure to allow people to make better choices. william: devils advocate, we are

an enormous country. we have wildly different education levels, there is a growing distrust of institutions and i knew -- do not just mean driven by conspiracy areas. this is a tough, big nation to govern. the things you're talking about, i am curious what you would see as a possible remedy for that, i would agree, that larger societal problem? how do we remedy that? ed: that is why clear, from leaders is so important. these instincts i talkein about my recent piece, these intuitions, are pretty universal. i have made them, you have made them, our viewers are probably making them now. i am not judging people for them. but we can try to resist it helps of leaders show a way out,th i provide clear communication. this is absolutely the opposite of what has actually happened, as we have heardrom woodward's

tapes. trump and many of his associates instead have exacerbated these bad intuitions by feeding people lies, misinformation, a false sense of security, this longing desired to return to normal, rather than counteracting those instincts and showing the uny a way out, they have deepened and worsened every faulty intuition we would naturally succumb to. william: amidst all of ts, is there anything you look at coming forward in the winter, perhaps the vaccine or this you hope?season, that gives ed: one of the best signs is that in the northeast, a lot of places hit originally very hard by the pandemic, have managed to hold the line and kept casesow throughout the spring and summer. that is encouring for the fall and winter. in general americans have done a lot. ey have taken to things like

masks, social distancing. and thehave done that in the face of bad communication, lies, poal leadership from the fed government. maybe they can hold that for the long-term. i worry people will getre i to tragedy and that is a big risk going forward, that the unacceptable will come to be acceptable. william: ed yong, from atlantic magazi, thank you for being here. ed:hanks for having me. ♪ , dy: for many americans battling addictie pandemic has made life increasingly difficult. across the country overdoses , have soared, with more than 40 states reporting increases in opioid-related mortality this year. but, covid is also changing how addiction treatment can be and some experts are saying it

could be a silver lining in a devastating public health crisis. >> to be honest, i thought it twould be sick rest of my life. stephanie: the pandemic has dr. steven lloyd touting theoi virts of virtual. >> are your cravings under control? stephanie: consulting pients through c vidonference has opened up a new world for the addiction specialist. he used to have to evaluate patients in peon before he can prescribe two of the most common medications used to manageio addiction. but in late march the drug it would temporarily relaxhose rules. >> do i send medicine directly to your house? >> yes. stephanie: practitioners like dr. loyd now have the

flexibility to send prescriptions via telehealth,ne over the pnd even to new patients. >>at was extremely grateful was available. stephanie: last month he prescribed medicine he phone while the patient was still inm an emergency roo suffering from extreme withdrawal. he has been in recovery a from n opioiction that began after a 2012 surgery. without the medicine,ld he w take any opioid he could get his hands on. cravings.ion helps block is >> a much better husband and father. iy feel liked self again. >> it has been the biggest game mchanger icine. stephanie: he is the former of addiction services and is the chief medical officer of 20 facilities inennessee, kentucky and florida. he spoke to me via of nashville recently. do you think that the ooid

crisis, which was already a crisis before the pandemic is , going actually get worse because more people urn to drugs? dr. lloyd: stephanie, it has alreadyte g worse. using telehealth i can see my patients in their home environment. i watch them from march go from nice apartments an houses to hotel rooms and back seats of cars. si it every single day. our overdose is up 20%, fatal and nonfatal overdoses. stephanie: he says telehealth panded treatment at a critical time when experts predict opioid-related deaths could couple -- could double this year dr. lloyd: you think of barriers people haveo getting medicine for opioid use disorder. number one, transportation. number two, fear of getting into an environme where you could be exposed to covid. number three, the ability to get your medication. what telehealth has done is it

has allowed us to meet people where they are. stephanie: while the national institutes of heah says there bundant evidence medications reduce opioidn use, atimated 80% of americans who could benefit from thecerugs do not e them. case in point, 40% of u.s. reviser --vi pr for one ofsed the medications. dr. lloyd described his own downward spiral. dr. lloyd: one is too many and 1000 is not enough. that sums it up. stephanie: earlier in his career he was driving home, feeling stressed and found left over hydrocodone pills escribed to sthim by his den he broke one and swallowed it. dr. lloyd: by the time i was home, my life was bette the pain and anxiety just melted away. stephanie: within a few weeks he was hooked in the next four years he says became a constant

pill chase. ll drd: every day became through this day, will i run out? where will i get it next? i could not quit it because every time i did not have the anpill i got sic it was all i could think about. stephanie:n lloyd e pocketed extra pills from his own patients. it is hard to find 100 vicodin a day even for me. stephanie: by 2004, llo was no longer able to conceal his addiction from his family and his dad can- confronted him. >> he said steve, youblave a drug p. i said yes, i do. i dm't know what i' going to do. i will lose my wife, house, medical license, everything i worked my life for. he said t none t will do you any good if you are dead. stephae: llo finally had the will to beat his addiction, but he also needed nine addictions -- nine injectionsen of

buphine, which contains a -- dr. lloyd: people relapseng because of cra stephanie: telehealth has lowered the barriers for people to get treatment, specificay medicationssistance forpioid addiction. why were those barriers so high to begin with?[0.0s] -- with? dr. lloy a lot of folks look at medication as a crutch that you are switching one drug for another. it perplexes me. we do not have problems treating other things that are largely behavioral with medicaon. the example i uses type two diabetes. type two diabetes is largely on't eat right, don't exeise enough, yet we treated with medication all the time. stephanie: medication cagmies strong sand shame. >> felt disgusting. stephanie: nicole hernandez is one dr. lloyd's patients, in recovery from an opioid addiion that began in 2008 car

accident. sheio used s to manage pain from multiple injuries. stephanie: that th worst point of this, how many pills did you need to take to dull the pain and feel like you were addressing that issue? >> it depends which pill. of the strongest ones, 20. stephanie: like many others who suffer addiction, hernandez recalls becoming someone she could not recognize. she forged prescriptions and ended up in jail, onlyhen realizing the hold the drugs had on her. dr. lloyd: toward the end of your pregnancy you did not have cravings more in the third trimester? stephanie:s shew prescribed suboxone which helps lessen her continuous pain she says without the feeling of addiction and widrawal. the virtual appointments have kept her fm having to visit the clinic. no small comfort for the new mother of ins. >> it has been awesome bause i have never had to leave my babies' side.

stephanie: 36-year-old -- on its own, telehealth is not a silver bullet. dr. lloy there are drawbacks to it. tfor the person thds to isolate -- the opposite of addiction is not recovery, it is community and relationship. one thing this takes away from us is that relationshi stephanie: it is why he has fought to ke treatment facilities open during the pandemic. as chief medical officer, dr. lloyd has institud a host of safety protocols, including testin his own staff, isolating positive cases in residential facilities, and frequent temperature checks. dr. lloyd: we are more crucial now than we have ever been. folks suffering from addiction are more marginalized than ever. we have toh be there w meaningful treatment to help them to the best of our abilityo

worlds get turned upside down. stephanie: even with the pandemic turni the world upside down, dr. lloyd has been able to expand his reach because of the relaxed telehealth rules, which he says should be made permanent. for the pbs newshour, i am stephanie sy. ♪ icon, with her academy-awardo winning acting career spanning decades. political activism.r her she describes her passion and protests advocating for climate change in her new book, "what can i do? my path from climate despair to action." jane fonda, thank you so mucfo talking to wes. when we sat down together at the

end of lastear, you were sitting in at the capital. you had been arrested four times. you said you had put everything in the -- on thee ine and you ill at it. jane: we are still facing a dire situation. scientists tell us we have until 2030 to cut our fossil emissions in half. it will take a lotf action by unprecedented numbers of people prepared to commit civil disobedience. that is why i am still a doing th wrote this book. it answers a lot of questions and tells people c what th do. i am proud of this book. judy: what is the main thing you want to get across? it is the story of protests in your engagement. jane: i want them to understand it is a dire situation we are facing and we have little time left to do what is needed, what the scientists tell us we have to do. the reason we have so little time is because the fossil fuel

industry lied to was 40 plus years ago. they knew what they were doing, their scientist told them they caused global warming and it uld be catastrophic for the world. they did it anyway andus lied to and tried to make us doubt the science. as a result, the window has shrunk in which we can do something. sthe bows us what we can do, from both individual actions, the most important we, group actions. getting together with a movement, large numbers of people, and acting in concert to force the government to do what is nded. first of all we have to vote. the boalks about the importance of voting.av but weto roll up our sleeves to get the government to do whaneeded -- what is needed. judy: since you started tngs, some big thave happened. foremost, the pandemic. how has that affected your across? to get your message : we were worried of course

with the terrible things that have happened to people in the u.s. and the world because of the covid pandemic. we took our fridays virtual. every friday we do zoom. last friday we had 750,000 people following us across all platforms. it is amazing. a lot of people signed up to volunteer, writing letters, getting peopleo vote. theino community, makingng into sure people vote and understand the importancef the climate. what it shows us, in spite of everything, people are concerne abe climate and are using thisime when they are sheltering in place to something about it and sign up to volunteer. judy: it has been the pandemic

and the black lives mwhter movementh has come back to life over the summer. people marching, takinto the streets, pushing for racial justice. do you find it is harder to get people's attention, that there is less bandwidth for environmental change when there is so much going on people are concerned about? jane: actually, no. ion't know if people are familiar with the yale project on climate and communicaons. it does amazing research. it shows us apparently black people car more about the climate than white people do. of all people, latinx are most concerned about the climate crisis. the climate crisis very much shows how much racism there is. the fossil fuel industry has for decades put their drilling and

fracking and incinerating and refineries in communities of indigenous communities under the assumption these people lacked power and will not able to do nothing about it. people of color haveim really bn cted by the fossil fuel industry. judy: you talked about the importancef voting. i looked back at our interview last november. you said no matter who we ect, no matter how progressive they are, it will not work unlesse hold their feet to the fire. doesn't make that much difference who is elected -- does it make that much difference who is elected? president trump this week saying he is the be environment president since teddy roosevelt. jane: wouldn't you rather push a centrist than fight a fascist? trump has been terrible for rhe environmenling back regulations, including clean an and clter at a time like this. , he is driill, drill.

he is in the pocket of the fossil fuel companies. he is the opposite of an environmentalist. joe biden can be persuaded and pressured. he has already moved very far. we have to get him elected and said a year ago.he fire as i judy: you acknowledge joe biden has not embraced the green new deal, which is something you advocate. so you're saying you think he can be persuaded? ja: i do, i thi so. there are enough of us out there the yale project on climate communication says we only need 3.5% of people to win new policies. that is 11.5 million people in the u.s. we can rouse 11.5 million people to pressure the biden administration to do what is right. i think we can win. accordinto that project at

yale, there are 13 million people who say they are ready for civil disobedience. there is a great unasked out there and it is our job to ask them ae organize and mobil them to do what is necessary. judy: one last thin this has to do with the other part of your life come acting. you are about to shoot the final season of "grace and frank." we heard from the academy of pictures, arts and sciences, they have a new standard to impose, requiring more diversity and inclusion both on camera and off. this is for shooting movies. do you think this will make a difference? nk you t hollywood is doing enough in that regard? jane: this is a big deal if it happens. i have not read the details of it yet. obviously, the devil is in the details. for example, if you're making "madmen," there were not a lot

of people of color in those offices back in those days. you need to be honest to the period you areilming, but i like the idea you can put rules in place that require companies to hirety with more divern mind. that is really good, but i don't know the details yet. judy: jane fonda, the book is "what can i do? my path from climate despair to jane: thanks. judy: 82 years old and she just keeps on going. that is the newshour for tonight. i am judy woodruff. join us online and here tomorrow evening. thank you,ylease s safe and we will see you soon. >> major funding for the "pbs newshour" has been provided by -- ♪ >> architect, beekeeper, mentor.

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