marisa lagos, and joining from san francisco's kqed politics and government reporter, guy maserati. thank you for joining us tonight. guy, president trump proved last night th he can displa restraint and offer more of a coherent licy message. it likely to increase votes in his favor late in the game with a week left until econ day? i think the answer to that is hientirely incumbent on campaign' ability to take that slightly more coherent policy message we heard in specific

areas. and thinking about the energy policy, differences that emerged in the debate between biden and trump. trump pouncing on thbiden taing away from fossil fus. also, but issues that are more on voters' mines like re. navirus responseand health >> marissa, are you expecting the unexpected to occur in the next few days, especially wi president trump behind in the polls, do you think the two campaigns wibe relatively quiet now? voting is underway and in record numbers. >> we have some 15 million ca americans that their ballots. but priya, i think like never say never. 2016 taught us that, but bothe om line is this has been a static race despite the unprecedented year. a global pandemic, something ha not seen in a century, and economic meltdown. really, the bases have stayed with both men, and they are

fighting for the scraps in the middle. to i think trump will try to continue to shake up this race? probably. who i think biden tois going try to stay steady? that has been histology all along. i think one thing to watch is this meddling we are hearing from iran, russia, other foreign actors, hothe trump administration handles that and whether it does ramp up, or whether it's just the disinformation we are seeing domestically. i think those are some challenging issues for both sides in the final days of the campaign. >> marissa, let's turn to the senate judiciary committee this week. the democrats ok an unusual step of boycotting the vote to bring y coney barrett's nomination to the full senate. what were they saying with that gesture? oh i mean, the point was wee not gointo participate in something we do not see as legitimate. >> but you know, this has been on the fast track since the beginning of democrats have very little power here. i think quite friendly, they made a more sort of potent political point during the he hearingsthey just over and over again really hammered

on this case by the trump administration seeking to t, and the fact they feel like her past shows he's very open to that argument . you know, where most people paying attention to the fact that democrats did not show up to inthis judiciary he? i don't think so. >> guy, to come to the senate judiciary committee, the ranking banng on that committee, dianne feinstein, has taken some criticism for thanking and hugging the ranking republican on the committee, lindsey graham, and there have been state progressives hearing in califoia who have said ey feel betrayed by her, and i want to read this grote . said finds and represents the n past of francisco in california. it's not the present at the time we are facing a crisis when we t-ve a riwing supremacist being rushed through the supreme court. she is not up to the ta. it's not because ofher age. it's just because of who she is. now, campos was not speaking on behalf of the san franicsco

democrarty, but was expressing opinions and sentiments being echoed by other progressive leaders throughout the state. do you see feinsteinrv g out her full-term? >> look, i think it's a lot more likely that we would see n in the new biadministration perhaps senator feinstein stepping away from her leading role on the senate judiciary committee, but frankly, i think democrats shanld be thinking feinstein for the subdued way in which the supreme court hearings played out. i think republicans initially thought this was an opportunity to take the conversation away om the pandemic we have seen the pre-court heings the past really inflame partisan identities, drive people into their corners. li raises an issue the coronavirus i'm aware there is a widespread agreement and the president's failure to cousain dispute beof the subdued way this played out, it really never emerged as a top issue in last nighs debate in recent weeks. i think in this case, progressive' complaints about dianne feinstee not going anywhere regardless of the th

result oelection. in this case, i think her moderation helped her party. biden and harris win the white house and if feinstein does newsom and an unusposition avin of being able to appoint two senators kept us that offer him some advantages? to >> yeah.getsessentially anoint two ambitious california politicians to a very powerful post with no term limits. i think doit's a le-edged sword to that too. you're probably going to make some friends, enemies to appear there's a long line of people who have beeneyeing the seats. kamala harris jumped into the race so fast, that it did not leave an opportunity for anybody within the establishment to get a toehold. so i think yes, this is something. it might be a little weird for nesome to book you might one of those seats himself. but to guy's point, i think

there has long beg a feel that dianne feinstein may not actually want to serve out this full-term because of her age, where thin are at. i think ultimately, she's going to want to go on her terms whether from a judiciary commissi or senate entirely >> geico joe biden that he would create a panel to study the possibility of adding supreme court justices if he wins the election. talk us through how republicans are sponding to this possibility. >> look, republicans are still unified in opposition to any kind of judicial reform like this, and priya, as you know, l on the politidder of avoidance, forming a blue ribbon panel to discuss something that's only coa le rings above, and addressing the issue at all, which has been biden's previous strategy when he came in court pa ultimately i don't think this is an issue driving people to is not a lot of evidence this is emerging as a top issue. even in last night's debate, it did not rely break there. this is something democrats will continue to debate about into the next administration,

but i don't think it will play a huge role in november 3. let's turn to the public policy institution in california which put out a new survey about state propositions. >> prompted 16 which is the e that uld reinstate affirmative action currently does not have enough support to pass. and has about 30% of likely voters saying ey would support it marissa, what you think this propion has not garnered more support? >> it is such an interesting question, priya. i do think some of it is that in everything is geso overshadowed by the presidential race and our national politics but i think you know, if you are not a voting age when prop 209 past which banned affirmative action and this would repeal that ballot measure, you may not have a very strong opinion on it, and i think it is a real failure in some ways of supporters tt they have not done a better job connecting is to the bigger cial justice conversation we're having. i talk to the person ran that poll. ticked up you are still a large

voters that are undecided. the campaign does have funding, so they have an opportunity hearing. i don't know ifthey are going to get over the finish line, but it is one of those things where i think they need to really make a clearer , sort of conection between black lives matter and the bigger conversation re're having aroue, and make the case for why this is going to help in that sort of broader push for civil rights. s >> guy, letalk about a race you have been covering ann the south bay. is between dave cortez and and at can you tell us about these two candidates ann the state of this right because it's being ry closely watched? >> this is a fascinating race, and i'm sure and if you are in san jose notes with tsthe torrof ads and mailers, this has become an incredibly inexpensive campaign, the most expensive state legislative 're nearing $10 million in spending when you look at independent spending and the campaign. are a lot of kedifferences between these two democrats on issues like housing, he is in favor of zoni reforms i would

legalize housing in more areas in the state as opposed to ravel, and on some nthotly ted propositions, prop this team op raise ty taxes to fund local schools and governments, you have him and suort and ravel in prop 22 on uband lyft and gig worker classifications, you have cortese he opposing that and ravel in favor. i thinis the latest example of how there can be all lot of daylight between democrats in the same party on the state d local runs. >> is it a similar race for a race coming for state senator supervisor, scott weiner and a progressive challenger who thinks that scott weiner is not

progressive enough? >> exit 4 i would say this is one more personalitplays a role too. scott weiner is being attacked by jackie fielder who is a very young rising star. she amazing. i think if she does not win this race, she will be nning for something else, but she's af been goingr him from the left, talking a lot about climate change, trying to tie him to developers and sortg of business but the trutis scott weiner is one of the most progressive senators in the stese senate. he cfrom san francisco. he has always been part of the more moderate, sort of sector of our democratic, you know, rainbow of politicians hearing in california,but he is a gay man, he has pushed hard for a lot of very progressive issues, and i think e this is of those cases where there is only so many seats, and sort of a mmunal, segments of the political world do not like scott weinerpersonally, and theaters opening on issues like clime change that are of course very voter important. talk you have to take a look at ballot measure in california history. of course, this ballot measure is the one that will decide whether uber and lyft and other companies can classify their emoyees as gig workers or if they are full-time employees. >> what is the latest on this? h

where does stand? does it seem like it's going to pass? guy, i will throw to you first. >> this is going to be a very close contest in this proposition. this an incredible amount of spending. i think voters are looking for signals on where drivers stand, that's a hard question to ask because a lot of drivers want the flexibility is kind of independent contractor will provide. at thesame time, a lot of drivers who use these apps as more full-time employment want the kind of benefits and security that they are not i would encourage our ewers to check out the great reporting our colleagues have done on this and really do reining, controversial campaign tactics we've seen from uber, lyft, and doordash when it comes to kind of using these rkers in the campaign. >> marissa, final 20 seconds hearing. any last thoughts on prop 22? >> ju that the last poll at september did show a wide number of voters still undecided . the yes side, even though they had almost 200 million with this campaign have not reachethat 50% threshol that poll. i will be watching next week to

see ifth e's any new public opinion polling, but i think this'll be a typo despite how much money the companies are spending. >> thank you both. >> thanks, priya. >> thas so much. visit kqed.com. since the start of the pandemic of high school and college students have been faced with additional challengee ing to higher levels of stress and anxiety. a survey of thousands of students at nine campuses earlier is year founa prevalence of depression that is twice as high compared to last year. in addition, many college students are experiencing unprecedented loneliness and anxiety, which is leading to an increase in cases of depressionst social distancing ctions due to the coronavirus have halted many traditional types of therapy, so researchers are testing new ways to udlp college ts feel connected

and less stressed. joining me now by sky from san francisco is daniel raymo, the senior director ofresearch at hope lab, a nonprofit that creates digital tools such as apps and video games to improve e health and well-ing of young people. joining me by sky from chicago is will coleman, senior coatmbia college and intern hope lab. thank you ford both joining. will, can you share with us allenges you have experienced this year, especially compared to pre-covid days? >> yes, so i'm currently a senior acolumbia college chicago, and with having this, i understa the challenges that come with school, the depression can be involved. anxiety on a regular basis, but adding a global pandemic on p of all of that can really raise the bar dramatically within all those, so way more anxious, depression bicr in, being i'm behind the screen for eight hours throughout the day n

having minimumraction of real-life students, and that's one of the major parts about college, is the fact that you can work with students from all around the country and workin ineld that is passionate to you personally, so when things are shifted over to a computer screen,those feelings are just increased by so, so much, being that you can feel isolated and by yourself and no one is really therwith you because that's what it really practically is because classes are held over zoom instead of being in person. >> danielle, will has had at least the opportunity to have several years in college, of more of a normal college experience. freshmry are having a different experience this year. what are your concerns about the cognitive development of generation z due to these restrictions? >> it is fair to say that this year is like any previous year frankly in history, and gen z is really experiencing something unprecedented for themselves as well. in

as a al psychologist, i likeo come with a frame of hope and resilience when i think about generation z are those born after 1996. they carry with them an incredible amount of hope and resilience. members of gen are more racially and ethnically diverse than any previous generation, and they are on track to be the most well- educated generation yet. they are also digital natives who have no a memory of world before smart phones, and this makes technology a unique part of their developmental experience. bothsoheir brain and al developmental experience. and there are of course perils and promises that comethalong that. that being said, there are a lot of vulnerabilities that gen z x experiencing, some of whichi you ed in your intro, and the toll of covid-19 is taking an adverse effect on gen z. while americans overall on e avere not more lonely as a result of the pandemic for example, generation z or young adults today deare saying they are more lonely, more

isolated, and experiencing more depression axiety. >> will, what are you hearing from your peers, your friends about how they are getting rough this time? >>& it's a very rough time because as you stated, this is such a different time of year. b evy is dealing with it all at the same time. this is new for everybody, so community built weather on social media or platform online is a great way to get through this bg ause you are beable to communicate with other folks and students who are going through similar feelings as you, so keeping an open alogue and keeping e conversation going and expressing and sharing our feelings with each other is a great way we're able to get throh these hard times. >>ananielle, you created app called not nodro h hope lab. can you tell us what it does and how it is meant to help sure. students? hope lab uses technology to build resilience and coping skills among young people, un adolescents and adults. with nod, we wanted to reduce

the burden of the impact of loneliness on young people's well-being. create a sense of community, like will was deribing outside of the app experience. nod has three main features. first, it gives students ideas, which are prompts based on the science of social connecting, that help students take small, achievable steps toward meeting new friends, going op deeper with they start to have connections with in college. the second feature of nod's reflections but these are short, and exercises that help students process the feelings that come with taking a chance in meeting new ecople and reng that sometimes that goes well and wanting those feelings to sit longer, and sometimes it doesn't go so well and wanting to help students reflect on the with the lens of self compassion. third, everything we do at hope lab is co-created directly with young people themselves, sourwe have d a number of testimonials directly from college students about the experience of meeting new people, making new frnds, and

connecting in college. the idea here to help other students realize making new friendin college is not easy. it takes work, and it can be done with effort. >> will, i see you noddinll there. us about your experience finding nod and how it has worked for you. >> s , my process of finding e nod was through hope lab's platform. i've been connected with hope lab the past two years, so when i saw thpi were deve a platform to help college students get out of this rut of dailymotion of life, i was tr ued, so i gave it a try, and as danielle expressed, there are so many elements to it that are crafted and lldeveloped to help e students navigate these issues in their lives, so whether it's reflections or whether picking up a prompt at helps yoget through your day just a bit better or increase those emotions you are feeling, it's just ovlaying in sucha beautiful experience to go throh and share with other friends. , my personal experienfound whenever i was feeling a certain way, i was able to

navigate that feeling to the platform, that i was given a bunch of obdifferent ms prompts so i can go throughout those feelings of anxiety or loneliness. i was kind of skeptical at first about the app because i in did not -- i've never used a self-help platform before. after giving it a try, i can say you see those promptand you incorporate them into everyday life. it helps you so, so much. >> i want to mention you found n out about nod were using it before you became a hope lab intern, actually. >> yes, correct. >> n you taus through one of those exercises? what does it look like? what does a prompt to do? >> yeah, for example, you know, with everything being so different in school being 100% onli for me, you can definitely feel lonely. on the app you can select the mood you feeling. if i'm feeling lonely for example, i would click feeling lonely, then i'm given a bunch of different prompts designed and crafted to help reduce thate lone that i'm feeling in

that certain time, so for example one of the prompts can say set up meeting th one your college professors, so that was one of the first prompts i had ever did off the platform, set up a meeting with my professor through a time i was feeling very lonely, and you know, i was excited to have him as a professor. i was very happy i did find that prompt, after my meeting with him i was given a ton of r resources hool had to offer for students so feeling lonely. so, ton oftips, personal tips from him such as camino, reach out to your i interest to you. similar was given a bunch of different emails to classmates i could talk to who shared so much as me, that he noted i would be good friends with, so follow that prompt of reducing the loneliness really d lp, and it helped me discover a promprobably would've never done without, you know, reviewing the app. ds >> it solike it really motivates you to take action, which is different, danielle, that what we're seeing in othea

social meplatforms. this is definitely a different use of technology than, you know, facebook or twitter, instagram, or snapshot, or tiktokor many of the other platforms that young people may be on. it seems like there is sort pao thisdox here that you are working through a technology that so many people say can lead to feelings of social isolation, can lead to feelings of loneliness, can lead to screen fatigue, frbukly. you are using that in a new way. can you talk to us about that paradox and how you have balanced that feelinand that sense of using technology? >> certainly. there are a lot of challenges around screen dependence and some risks that gen z face around bullying, screens contributing to isolation and social isolation killed but at hope lab, we think abouways that technology can alsommbuild ity and also increase resilience through building coping skills to help us do thrive, and live well.

that's what we ally tried to do with the nod app. one of the things you mentioned is social media, and latino community foundation is different from social media in multiple ways. we encourage students first to build social connections and communities outsidlfthe app it so it's not students talking to each other or engaging in some of the ideas that will thtalked abouugh the app. they are just getting these ideas to the app, then they are coming back to e app to process how that goes outside of the app. but frankly with nod, we were hoping students would come when they needed strategies , we would be le to gethem strategies that would feel achievablele possand may be interesting. hopefully interesting to them. they would go out and try them, then come back to the app just briefly, reflect on it, then eventually not need the app anymore. where as tools like social addictive, we had the opposite in mind with developing nod. we hope students who use , need kqed they will use it a ttle while anwill not need to use

it anymore. >> danielle, how can people access the app what is it free? where can studen get this? >> students can get it on their campuses. nod is being offered as an enterprise solution, were er colleges and unties can purchase a license to offer nod to their students on campus for free. >> okay. will, you are in your last semester of college and set to graduate in decemb, just a coupleonths away. how has the pandemic impacted your vision for your future and your anxieties abouweit as ? >> yeah, i think this pandveic could really destroyed a lot of college students when it comes to their mind-set and their pursuit continue to chase their dreams though, i think the pandemic really created such a resilient effect upon all of gen z folks. the fact we're not giving up and we're still pushing, we're still attending school, still chasing our drms, still talking in internships shows how resilient the generation of gen z is, just continue to pursue those thingsthat we truly do love.

it could've been very, easy to drop out school, take a break into the pandemic rolled around, but instead i kept going, and i atthink that's really makes gen z so, so special. >> danielle, is will's experience common to what you are hearing, the sense of resilience, or are more people feeling drowned by the anxiety? >> will reflected some vulnerabilities and also some resilience we are indeed hearing from our gen z users and in a research study we conducted at hope lab. the vulnability is that more gen z students are dropping out of college after the first year, citing mental health reasons being the main reason they arthleaving. is more than any generation prior, this was really concerning, one of the reasons we wanted to created. in a trial we just conducted at the university of oregon with 221 first-year college students, we found that the

students who were most vulnerable to experiencing th these mental heal problems, those who came in to college with heightened depression and loneliness did, indeed, benefit if they usednod. they were less lonely, less depressed, slept better, and they were more likely to say that they would stay in college after the first year if they use nod compared to those who didn't, and we saw this as some real hope. >> danielle wei moe and will coleman th hope lab,thank you. >> it's been a pleasure, thank you. and you can find more of our verage at kqed.com/ tran21newsroom. nofor an elevated look at something beautiful. after months of thanticipation, skies are observation wheel took its first spin in san francisco's golden gate park. the wheel was set for the parker pulsni150th rsaries elevation earlier

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