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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, ll >> woodruff: good evening, i'm judy woodruff. on t newshour tonight, finally a deal-- congress reaches agreement on a covid financial relief package as the economy remains hobbled by the pandemi then, getting the vaccine-- we talk with doctor fauci about the inoculation campaign and state of the virus as the holiday'soa appr. plus, a different deadly surge-- drastic societal changes broht on by the pandemic and economic inequality cause a sharp rise in murder rates nationwide. >> the loss of people's source of income, of their stability, of their home, of just a sense ofrisis that they're in. we've seen a dramatic increase, historic increase in the number of gun sales. >> woodruff: all that and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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>> woodruff: the stalemate is over, but the nation's lawmakers are voting tonight on bills to government and addther keyd the concerns. congressional correspondent lisa desjardins begins our report. >> desjardins: after weeks of slow, tortured negotiations, ato the ca a mega-deal is on a >> the bill today is a good bill. usday is a good day. >> we have beforat long last, a piece of legislation that addresses the critical needs that are out there. >> desjardins: the final deal launches an arsenal of attempted coronavirus relief for many americans: direct checks of $600 each. for the unemployed, $300 more each week for ten weeks. and to fight the virus, 50 billion for buying and
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distributing vaccine and for expanding testing and tracing across the country. at nearly a trillion dollars, the coronavirus portione make for one of the largest single-issue spending bills in u.s. history. cbut added to the must-paid relief is a mountain of other heavyweight legislation affecting millions. the biggest financial aid expansion for college students in years. an entire package of significant climate and ergy changes. and a long-sought-after bill to end what's called rprise medical billing. all of this, an epic 5500 pages of lawmaking, is bound together chance this congress has to pass anything, on any topic. that includes funding government, also in the bill. most agencies and the military are due to run out of money at midnight tonight. hence the rush to get this behemoth through quickly, possibly before many, if any,re members coul it.
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republican senator rand paul decried it as irresponsible. presented today is not just a¡ deficits don't matter disast', it is everything that republicans say they don't molieve in. this bill is frey for everyone!in >> desja from the leaders who do know what's in this bill, f ified praise, and debate over whether more relll be needed. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell.is >> thiust some of the aid that will be heading americans'e way in a mof hours. no sprawling left-wing wish list. no unconstrained bailouts for state and local gove with no connection to covid needs. e desjardins: whereas sen minority leader demoat chuck schumer railed about urgent needs in states, which face possible gernment layoffs. >> this is an emergency survival package and whene come back in january, our number one job will be to fill in the gaps left by
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the bill and then get the economy moving with strong federal input. >> desjardins: in a statement yesterday, president-elect joe support but noted that he sees this is as "just the beginning". president trump is expected to sign the bill once the deal gets to his desk. >> woodruff: and lisa is here to is into this massive bill.de >> woodruff: so, let's start with covid relief. tell us where people are going to see help, a how it is going to work. >> let's run right to a graphic on this, judy. first of all, the $600 checks, those will go t individuals earning $75,000 or less. if you have a child and you qualify, you will get another $600 . couples get $1200 if they qualify. let's tadlk about f health. there is a 15% increase ints snap benewhat used
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to be called food stamps. that is te tempory for four months. when i talked to food banks, they say that is a massive help for them and families in need. they do believe it will small businesses, theat paycheck protection program, .por p.p another round of those sort of loans that will be forgiven will go out i this program. thoscan go this time to businesses with fewer than 0 workers, and which have lost 25% ofv reenue year-on-year, so this is more targeted than last time. again, those businesses will qualify for something like 2.5 month worth ofu payroll and siness expenses to help them get through.sp there arial provisions in here for restaurants and theaters, anmuseums, all getting some special carve-outs and help because they aremo among tht suffering. there is not anything for state and local government, something democrats wanted. and the unemploymentfi be run out in 11
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that's what democrats hope to extend again later. >> woodruff: all d importantails. lisa, what is in here with regard to fighting the virus itself? >> this was a major change, through negotiations. the amount of money being spent directly to fight the virus jumped to $50 billion, and that will spender on buying enough vaccine, congress hopes, to make it free, as well as on new testing and tracinfor states. >> woodruff: and, lisa, as you mentioned, 5500 pages, we can barely imagine the scale of this thing. who has had the opportunity to read all of it but give us a bigger sense of what else is here. >> i want to talk about education reform, higher education, specifically, again. let me take down wht is in that part. there will be an increase in the programs that will mean a half million newl students wualify for
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the programs. and also incars rated americll now be able to qualify for programs. in addition, historically black colleges and universities will see 1.3 billion loan forgiveness, for capital maintenance prgresses, a huge help for them when they're struggling during the pandemic as ll. >> woodruff: lisa, climate and energy, we understand this bill contains a whole new energy policy? >> it blows youmind. i'm going through all of these major policies, but they're all important. again, i want to show youab another graphit this. this is important. hydroflorocarbons will be faced out completel lome of the biggest contributors tomate, say scientists. and there is a reporting here that is interesting, looking for how much would
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it take to get to zero emissions by 2050, all of these things, judy, things in the work, some for six years by senatmu owski, now in this bill and we expect it to be passed tonight. a, soodruff: l much else we could cover. tell us what else stands t to you in here. >> a 5500-page bill iso- et tall. so there is a lot in this bill. in there, surprise medical tobilling, so when you g an emergency room, starting in the yea022, you will not be getting a surprise bill for thousands and thousana of dollars,jor problem. there is also a bill for human rights in tibet, including a u.s. consulate in tibet, which would be new. all kinds of things in here: tax breaks for small breweries, and there is a women's history museum that wold be established, a museum for american latinos.e it is a mass bill.
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basically almost everything anyone in congre has wante to do pbia lot isin there. >> woodruff: something about israeli peace as well in the middle east. so much to go through, lisa. we'lhave to look at in the days to come. lisa desjardins, thank you for staying on it all weekend. >> wdruff: shients of the new moderna vaccine began arriving around the country today. nearly six milon doses are expected at more than 3,500 locations by the end of the week. european union approved the vaccine by pfizer and biontech. but that news was nearly overshadowed by fears of a possible mutation of the virus. the change does not seem to make
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the virus more resistant to a vaccine. but some researchers believe it allows it to spread far more easily. train stations were jammed as people tried to get out of london before a lockdown. and over 30 countries banned travel and flights from the u.k. the u.s. has not banned such travel yet. new york governor andrew cuomo asked why. it's serious, my friends. and we are on notice about it. why don't we act intelligently for a chan m? why don't date testing before people get on flights or halt flights from the u.k. now? many other countries have done this. >> woodruff: in california, governor gavin newsom reported today there are no available intensive care beds in many parts of the state.
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for his part, president-elect biden got his vaccination on live tv today to help persuade the public of its safety. all of this comes as a c.d.c. advisory committee is essential workers should get the next wave of vaccinations. that would include police, firefighters, teachers and grocery workers. the committee also recommended people 75 and older should get the vaccine in theext phase we're ing to focus on some of this news with doctor anthony fauci. he's the head of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases. and a member of the white house's coronavirus task force. >> woodruff: welcomeback to the" dr. fauci. let me ask you first about this mtation that is getting so much attention. how much -- it has come out of england. how concerned should people be, and is there something that can be done to stop it? >> doctor: well, first of all, it is something
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you want to keep an ey out on. you don't want to just blow it off, certainly not. u have to understand, thou, judy, that this coronavirus is an r.n.a. g virus, thnetic makeup, and these types of viruses tend to mutate a lotmo. of the mutations have no function or relevance. this one has a suggestio that it might allow the virus to spread more readily. evidence to prove orout disapprove that. but let'smake an assumption that it is,n fact, making the virus more trnsmissible, en though it hasn't been proven yet. it doe't seem at all to have any impact on the varilence or the deadliness of the virus. d it doesn't seem to have any impact on the protective nature of the vaccines that we'rerr tly using. so it is something you take seriously. teu keep your eye out on it, and you dots to determine if there are
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more functional relevance than we seem to believe that there is. >> woodruff: so it is believed that the current vaccines protect against it. and we assume it is in the united states now? >> doctor: you know, you have to make that assumption, judy. when you see something that is petty prevalent in a place like the u and there are also mutations we're seeing inh sofrica, and given the travel throughout the world, i would not be lsurprised if it is aready here. when we start to look for it, we're going to find certainly it is not yet the prevalent one, the way it see to have assumed that prevalent nature in the u.k. but we're going toe and sooner or later we're going to run into it and find it. >> woodruff: do youin a travel ban from the u.k. is a good idea? >> doctor: it bmig premature to do that, judy. i don't think that kind of a draconian approach is necessary. i think we should seriouy consider the
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possibility of requiring testing of people before they comfrom the u.k. here. but i don't think that there is enough evidence right now to essentially lockdown any trveafrom the u.k. but seriously consider the possibility that you might want to require people who e coming here to be time.d within a period of you know, 24, 34, or 76 hours before they get on a plane to come to the united sates. >> woodruff: dr. fauci, i want to ask you now about e reports over th past few days from governors and others that the first shipments of the pfizer vaccines were smaller, fewer doses than expect.s. the h secretary azar last week that itnotur" the government's fault. however, over the weekend, rge army general in cha of operations for "operation warped speed" did apologize. he said there hadn a scommunication with the
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states. bottom line: how you think this happened? >> doctor: you know, it ppens, judy. whenever you have the rollout of a big program likehis, you're going to get some glitches. i don't know exactly the details of what happened in the stes that were expecting more doses and did not get it. o but that of the things that happens when you're rolling out a brand new program like this. i would expect as we get ae few mores into the process, that you're going to see it running much more smoothly. that happens all the tme. people getsed to it, they get into a groove, and the distribution starts to go manage more smoothly than it already has. >> woodruff: and, dr. fauci, with regard to e next vaccine, the moderna vaccine we're going to see, and even fuher pfizer vaccine shipments, this panel advising the f.d.a -- the c.d.c., rather -- is recommending it be people
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75 and over, and theon ine essential workers we described a minute ago. we heard the chairman of is panel say this was about e hardest decision he has ever had to make inre his , involved in this kind of work. does this sound like the right kind of recommendation to you? d> doctor: yeah, i believe so, juy. as you just mentioned,pr riately, these are the kind of decisions that are not easy to make. but, first of all, they feel if you look at the ntdeaths, the pere of deaths that we get from covid-19, it is veryht heavily we towards the elderly. that was the reason to get individuals of a certain buge, 75 and older, to be there. you also want to make sure that the infrastructure of society, the essential workers that make things run in a normal, functioning society, that you want to keep them protected because you don't want a breakdown of that normal
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function. so ithink a balance between the elderly individuals and those who have what is called sential jobs in society at the end of the day was so i agree with that. >> woodruff: dr. fauci, i'm jumping around ale liit because there is so much i want to ask you about. committee day that issued a report saying that they ha significant findings of instances where the white house, the trump administration, exerted political pressure on science, on scientists, at the c.d a.cthe f.d.a., at h.h.s -- do you know ofan instance where decisions were made for political reasons, either that recommendations were altered, or that they were done away with, because of pressure from the whit house? >> doctor: i think what you're talking about, judy, is issues related to the c.d.c., and what goes into or out of their p scientifblication,
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which is a very honored publication, the morbidity and morality report. there was a person at h.h.s. who was actually trying tohnfluencet was said in there. that person is no longer there. the person has beend, remond that now is not a problem. >> woodruff: and that's the only instance that you're aware of? >> doctor: yeah, to my knowledge, ys. i think that individual person also tried to mak some comment about what i should or should not say.bu i completely blew that off and deputy pay any attention to him. that person was trying to exert some influence on what went into the morbidity and morality weekly repor but the department got rid of that person. >> woodruff: d fauci, ck to the vaccines, as we know, president-elect biden ha his vaccination today.
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and it is reported that you're going to get a vaccination tomorrow, is that true, number one? >> doctor: yes, it is true. i ll be vaccinated tomorrow morning, yes. >> woodruff: and do you think president trump should get a vaccition he hasn't had one yetas far as we no. >> doctor: there isn't a reason for him to because he receved a passive transfer of monoclonal w antibody when s sick. that makes the level very high in your body, wich can interfere with the efficacy of a vaccine. so ifis recommended you do receive a passive infusion of monoclonal antibody, that you don't get vaccinated for about 90 days. so he is still within the limit of 90 days. i think sooner or later he should ultimately get vaccinated, but the fact that he is not vaccinated now i think is not inappropriate. i think it goes along with
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threcommendations o when someone should be vaccinated. >> woodruff: and, dr. fauc this is christmas week, so i want to ask you -- i tink we had a conversation before thanksgiving similar to thu, but what is yor advice to americans who are wishing so much they could be aryound fam members right now, in terms of how they should be thignk about this? snd i also saw that you wrote that even e the family, people should be wearing masks around older family members. >> doctor: you know, judy, this is a tou recommendation because i am not recommending that we canceuchristmas. now, someone was tweeting that around, saying i was trying to cancel the holidays. th t's not case at all. but i think there is something we have to facwhe. you get into a holiday tuation, where there is a lot of travel of people from different aces, and you have a ndency to congregate
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indoors, with larger numbers of people than youy usua, family and friends come over for dinners, you have sometimes the big christmas dinners of 15, 20 people -- i'm just limit travel to the extent possible within the frameworof youfamily, and try, when you have indoor settings, such as meals, that you do it with a limited number of people. you get family, maybe a few friends you have confidence that they'reg beery careful, but not the20, 25-size dinners that you have sometimes with people that you have no connection with, just a friend of a friend. you don't know where they've been, where they've come fro or what their exposure is. we're juest asking -- we'r in the middle, judy, of a significant surge. if you look at a map of the country, and you look at the numbers of places a where there increase in cases, and just look at the numbers we have now.
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we're averaging betwe 200 and 300 cas -- 300,000 cases a day. we have between 200 and 300 deathser day. the hospitalizations are at 100,0 plus. california is in a very dire situation.rd as you hethey're running out of i.c.u. beds. so we are in a serious situation. and despite the fact that there is light at the end of the tunnel, witinh va being rolled out through december into january, february, an beyond, we still have to be careful because there is a lot of virus out there. that's all i'm recommending: b caeful during the christmas holidays and tone it down a t. you don't have to cancel what you're doing, but tone it down a bit. >> woodruff: and, finally, dr. fauci, a personal question. we understand you have birthday coming up on christmas eve. you're going to be how many yeyoarung? and how do you plan to
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celebrate, and where are nyou going to be ad what are you going to be doing on christmas? >> docto going to do what i recommend to the rest of you asked, though. i'm going to be 80 years old on christmas eve. i'm going to spend it at a quiet dinner with my wife. we will do what wei dd over thanksgiving. i will zoom in my three w daughters can have a chat and maybe share a glass of proseco with them, and then we'll have a quiet dinner. i'm going to practice what i've been preaching to th p americblic. >> woodruff: and into christmas day. dr. anonyauci, thank you. we thank you very much, and we wish you a safe holiday. >> doctor: thank you same to you and your family.
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>> woodruff: in the day's other news, u.s. attorney general president trump's claims ofd election fraud. barr spoke two days before leaving office. he said there was "no basis" to seize voting macnes, as the president reportedly has suggested. he also rejected naming a special counsel to investigate the election. >> if i thought a special counsel at this stage was theas right tool andppropriate i would name one. but i haven't and i'm not going to. >> woodruff: in addition, barr declined to name a special counsel to investigate the financial dealings of hunter p biden, tsident-elect's son. he said an ongoing federal probe is entirely adequate. today with the president'sbroke weekend claims that china ght be behind the hacking of u.s. government agee ies. instead,id he agrees with
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other top u.s. officials that it "certainlappears to be the russians." russiaopposition leader alexei navalny says a state security officer has nfessed to poisoning him last august. navalny posted a veo today showing himself posing as a security chief, and gettg an operative to explain that a nerve agent was planted in his underwear. edthe dissident then addreis followers. >> ( translat ): we have pressed them to the wall. there is more than enough evidce, but i will not prese them to a court, can only present them to the russian people. putin has lied in his yearly news conference, he uses all the papers and tv channels to spread his liesns our only rescan be in telling the truth. >> woodruff: the kremlin has repeatedly denied any involvement. navalny is now recuperating in germany. in germany, a court today sentenced a white supremacist gunman to life in prison for attacking a synagogue on yom kippur, 2019. judges convicted stephen balliet
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of murder and attempted murder for killing two people and wounding others, on judaism's holiest day. he admitted had wanted to kill many re. back ithis country, the u.s. justice departmege filed new chin the 1988 bombing of pan am flight 103.eo at least 259e were killed, including 190 americ when the plane was destroyed over lockerbie, scotland, 32 years ago today. the charges name a libyan inlligence officer who allegedly admitted building the bomb. victims'amilies welcomed the news. o we will continue to pursue justice for all e responsible for this bbing but today is a small victory in that conquest. we are gratel the department of justice and the f.b.i. continue to fight for justice for all americans. >> woodruff: two other libyans were ultimately triebefore scottish judges, years ago.
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one was convicted, the other acquitte the statue of confederate general robert e. lee has been reved from the u.s. capito pedestal early today, after 111 years.ia virg governor called it a racist symbol, unfit to represent the state today. a statue of civil rights figure barbara johns is expected to be the replacement. on wall street today, the dow jones industrial average gained 37 points to close at 30,216. but, the nasdaq fell 13 points, and, the s&p 500 slipped 14. p and,netary spectacle will highlight tonight's sky. jupiter and saturn will appear to merge shortly after sunset it a so-called "gonjunction". the two giant planets have not appear this close, from earth's perspective, since 1623. still to come on the newshour: the smoke begins to clear after the brut war for nagorno
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rabakh. how the murder rate in the u.s. is spiki in the pandemic. and our politics monday team breaks down covid relief and what the president is not doing. >> woodruff: nearly three months ago, a dormant conflict on the fringes of europe broke into brutal warfare. the former soviet republics of armenia and azerbaijan went to war, again, over the enclave of nagorno-karabakh, drawing in regional powers. now, after the azerbaijani victory, as special correspondent simon ostrovsky t tells us, wi support of the pulitzer center, peace will be a hard bargain. and a warning: some images in this report may disturb viewersr
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>>eporter: earlier this month, allies reviewing the captured spoils of a brutal war: azerbaijan's president ilham aliyev with turkish presidentre p tayyip erdogan on the capital, baku's main square. column after column of captured imenianeapons rolled bya victory paradehbelebrate neiging armenia's defeat, and the capture of a larger prize: theagorno-karabakh region. after the latest war over karabakh ended novembe9, a decidedly unusual, even repellent, spectacleor modern europe, but ese are dark times in this corner of the continent wherturkey, russia and iran intersect. just over a month ago armenia lost control of these areas of azerbaijan, which it held since the end of the first war between azeris and armenians here in 1994,
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now, the azerbaijani and turkish leaders' exult in their popularity. >> ( translated ): the famous bayraktar which is made by the turkish defense industry, was a gamechanger and played an important role in our success. >> reporter: azerbaijan's successful military campaign was helped by turkish know-how, and drone technology; it will shape the geo-political map for yearsc e in this vital region. russia, turkey's rival in a theatediverse as karabakh, syria and libya, seems to haveon secured a plachat map. it wielded its influence with armenia and azerbaijbroker a deal that not only ended the fighting but secured a role fori its miry in the contested enclave in the form of peacekeeping troops. >> ( translated ): i have to itntion mr. putin's approach. his approach madossible to carry this process out in a positive manner and get things to where they are.
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>> reporter: while azerbaijanis are jubilant over the return of lands long coveted, some worry the russns are there to stay. >> ( translated ): in my opinion, it's bad that the russian peacekeepers arrived. they should not have come. at minimum, russia is a country that helps armenia and sends peacekeepers. if turkey came, yes, but i don't approve of russian peacekeepers. >> reporter: more frequently though, responselike this one when we asked residents of baku what they thought of the russian presence: >> ( translated ): we trust our president. he knows everything very well. must have been the righ decision. >> reporter: armenian forces may back to azerbaijan, but it might be a long time before civilians can come back here safely. the's hundreds of miles ofon frine to de-mine. but it's not just about clearing unexploded ordnance.ia if civil from both sides are to return to these areas painful
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first take place; includes must the prosecution of war criminals. rachel denber is a dep director of human rights wpech. >> it's tive for a couple of reasons. first, it's imperative as a rrent to ensure that the crimes don't repeat to send a very strong signal to throughout the chain of command from the from the highest level to the to the lowest level that these that these nds of actions will not be tolerated and that they will be vigorously punished. but it's also it's also important for a sense of justice and a sense of security. w >> reportele azerbaijan's leader promised to govern regained territory for the benefit of both the azeri and armenian communities, his troops are sending another message: >> ( translated ): who are armenians?
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that they will destroy armenians. >> reporter: and here, just a small sample of the gruesome footage that has emerged from this conflict, a soldier cuts off the ear of a dead armenian fighter. in its war to take back control of karabakh, azerbaijan is accused of war crimes, including the beheading, mutilation and humiliation of armenian fighters and civilians, according tots recent repy both amnesty international and human rights artch. and whilnians also stand accused of humiliating captive soldiers and killing at least one p.o.w., they didn't mistreat any civilians possibly because their troops were in the retreat.on that puts th on azerbaijan to show first and foremost that it is serious about being a just steward for everyone who will live here. for the pbs wshour, i'm simon ostrovsky in nagorno-karabh.
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>> woodruff: across the u.s., murders havekyrocketed this year, while nonviolent offenses have larly dropped, according to publicly available crime data. but the efforts to curb homicides comes at a time when police departments are facing both staffing shortages because of the pandemic and lingeringst distn communities of color following months of nationwide protests. john yang explor what is behind the latest trends. >> yang: khalilah corey's 19 year old son wanya dreamed of coming a journalist. in his free time, he loved playing basketball in theirea milis neighborhood. >> all the time, every weekend, neighborhood coming over and neighborhood got to know us. i was the mother, the single mother of five and the boys outside playing basketball.
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>> yang: on october 11th, corey got a text from wanyng he was heading home after playing at a nearby court.id >> it was mye child's birthday. he was turning 12. and he was at his aunt's house and then later on at day we were going tcelebrate at home like we do with cake and ice cream. so when we got home, we weg waitr wayna to come. and, when he didn't come back, it was devastating. >> yang: wanya had been killed in a drive-by shoong. minneapolis, still reeling from this summer's police killing of george floyd, has had 80 murders so far this year, a level not seen since the 1990s. despite the uptick, the minneapolis city council voted unanimously earlier this month to shift nearly eight million dollars from next year's police budget. i spoke with corey, who is an early education teacher, by skype. what do you think happened? >> i don't even know. i mean, just from what i'm
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hearing from, like, ow, the police. like mistaken identity. it had to be because he didn't have any enemies. >> yang: tragically, khalilah corey has felt this pain before. te grew up on chicago's w side and lost two brothers to hn violence. she says she mov family to minneapolis six years ago in better life.ing her children a >>pt's just more trauma on of trauma, on top of trauma.d just i don't want my kids to live in fear. >> yang: the 80% spike in minneapolis homicides this year is part of a nationwide surge in murders during the pan >> we're seeing something historic here. ri>> yang: jeff asher is a analyst in new orleans who has studied 2020 data from more than 50 cities. >> and in those cities, murder relative to last year.is year which to put that in some
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nation year to year change we've ever had is a 12.5% increase >> yang: while most crime, including home burglaries and robberies, has gone down, murder rates have risen sharply, both in large cities like new york, chicago and seattle, and in smaller ones like lubbock, texas and greensboro, north carolina. and last month los angeles reached a grim milestone: for the first time in more than a decade, 300 homicides. >> it is one of the most challenging times in thi profession, i've been doing this work for four decades and this is a pandemic of violence. >> yang: los angeles police chief michel moo says increased gang violence, and the effects of the pandemic has led to a 30% increase in killings in the nation's second rgest city. of income, of theiility,source of their home, of just a sense crisis that they're in. we've seen a dramatic increase, historic increase in the number of gunales, people going out seeking guns. >> yang: liktiin many u.s.
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, covid-19 has led to police staffing shortages and handcuffed efforts t.target violen >> we're not having meetings, cial interactions and engagements that we would normally have to help stem this. we've had more than 800 of our personl that have come down with the virus. we have lost two of our employees, one an officer and one a detention officer that died as a result of this. so we know firsthand the iact of this pandemic. >> yang: another major factor: lingering distrust between law enforcement and mmunities of color after officers killed floyd in minneapolis and breonna taylor in louisville. >> there's a huge trust factor that we are seeing in the community as it pertains to law enforcement. and that didn't just start with the death of george floyd. atwill say that that has definitely compl things further >> yang: reverendarren faulkner works with at-risk individuals in kansas city,
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missouri, which this year hasne set record for homicides. he says many of the pele he works with are afraid to call the police. >> fear of t police, fear to ll the police. i will call 911 if i am dying. anything short of that, i'm afraid i'm going to go to jail if call them. that's an issue th been long standing in the community that i serve. >> yang: some of the biggest spikes in homicide haven in cities that had large protests over racial justice and police killings. in louisville, for example murders are up 77%; in milwaukee, almost 100%. >> we have to be moreou speculative the connection between protest activity on the one hand and community violence on the other. >> yang: criminologist richard rosenfeld says when a community loses trust in t police, violence can follow.
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>> it could be that police hav been redeployed to address the protest activity from their normal routines that could it could also be that counities that have always had a somewhat fraught relationship with the police in those widespread, intense protests, that relationship deevriorates further. street justice takes hold and we see an increase in violente. cr >> yang: despite the sharpmu increase iers, the nation's violent crime rate is ago.ere near its peak 30 years >> there's been a big crime drop since the early '90s with some fits and starts. and we're seeing a spike right now, but that spike, generally speaking, is taking cities back to where they were perhaps five years ago, five to 10 years ago. there e some exc ttions of citit are seeing crime, violent crime rates that they haven't seen in decadear but by and, that's not the case.ac
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>> yang:in minneapolis, though, khalilah corey says violence in her neighborhood is the worst she's ever seen. >> i'm even more scared to even leave the house, you know, te the kids out bause it's been so much violence, like so much i feel like i'm back in chicago. >> yang: and she says life now seems unimaginable without her oldest son. >> any time i was sad or super frustrated. he would come in and he'd be like, mommy, and hold out his arms. and say, "mom, bring it in, bring it in. and id be like, no, i don't want a hug. he's like, come on, i'm going to do it anyway, bring it in. and he'd hug me so tight and i couldn't do anything. and i couldn't be angry anymore. and i couldn't think about anything except for that hug. >> yang: another victim in a year that has been marked by so many deaths.fo the pbs newshour, im john yang.
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>> woodruff: for analysis of the repolitics behind the covief bill, the president's continued attacks on the election resu ts and more, n to our politics monday team. that's amy wter of the cook political report and host of public radio's "politics with amy walter." and tamara keith onpr. she also co-hosts the "npr politics podcast."oo >>uff: so, hello to both of you. we heard lisa desjardins lay out just a part of that 5500-page deal, amy, that congress i apparently tonight coming arou to passing. here we are, it is another deadline, and i hate to be so crass asto ask y to boil it down to winners and losers, but who do you see as the winners and the losers? >> amy: clearly the winners and losers are kind of in the same camp, and that's the american public and small
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businesses.th many om are winners, in that they're finally seeing aid that ha been sort of in the works here since earlier in the summer they are also losers, though, because many of them, especially many of the small businesses, just didn't survive the summer negotiations weree basically deadlocked. but there are a couple of other sort of political issues here nkat i thi are important to think about. you know, the first is th you he, in georgia, the twsenate races, january 5th s a special election, and democrats have been making the caseth againstwo sitting republican senators, that they haven't done enoughon ovid relief. well, now those senators get to go back home and say, guess wt? we're bringing a lot of money back to georgia to help folks who are struggling in the pandemic. the other question that i think is going to be interesting is to see what this means for president-elect biden. on the one hand, this is
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good news for him because he doesn't then show up on january 20th with a desk full of a whole lot of economic problems, maybe an economy that has gotten six weeks between now ande when he gets sworn in. but it also means tht he doesn't have this same sort of possibility to push a stimulus bill in his first few days, use it as a vehicle to do a lot of the things he promised on them capaign trail. and a good economy, or an proving economy will be good for president-elect biden. at the same time, it makes it harder to convince republicans that they need to agree to another bi stimulus package. >> woodruff: so, tam, pick up on that. what would you add in terms of the political calculus here? both in terms of the neorgia runoffs coming up very early in jry and what it means for joes biden,ll as what
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we're talking about right now for people? >> tamara: so in terms of what congress is going dto pass, indition to the covid relief, there is also an omnibus spending bill, big-budget bill that means there isn't going to be a budget clip in the 1 fir days of joe biden's prency. so he -- in some ways, he avoids a big budget fight, which is a good thing. and in theory, there is a cliff in ths covid bill because after 11 weeks, orwh ever it is, some time in the spring, once again nae addit unemployment benefits and other benefits are going and if things aren't back to normal, which is unlikely that they will be, there will be this other pressing moment for biden to try to push for more of what he wand because this bill is far less than what democrats had wanted and thought was
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needed. but as we learned this summer, expiring unemployment benefits or expiring additiol benefits, it turns out isn't much of a cliff at all for congress. they have essentially, with this, proven they can do there minimum at the absolute last minute, which could be like the slogan for congress for the last several years. >> woodruff: amy, we could be heading into stalemate situation for a long time to come. look at where we could potentially be when joe biden takes over as esident of the united states -- we're still waiting to see who controls the senate. en if democrats control the senate, it will be by one vote. that makes, in theory, some of these people who came together to help craftothis bipartisan package, this problem-solvers caucus more important than ever. theoretically, that co mean we see more
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cooperation, that the folks who aren't on either side of theog ideal spectrum saying, you know what? we have a lot of power andnc infl and let's get together and try to do more of these bipartisan deals. and they have, in president biden, absolutely, this is what i campaigned on doing; i would love to do that. whether that holds true once we get into 2021, biden is the acual president, and the mid-term elections are right around the corner, and that's where we know the house and the senate are going to be on the line, i'll be very curious to see how long this operation lasts. >> woodruff: it isn't often we hear a forecast of people actually getting together and agreeing and passing legislation smoothly. but, tam, you can pick up on that, but i also want to turn, just quickly, if trump.ll, to president e what we've seen, no only is he still
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pushing the baeless conspiracy theories about the election, but he is ilking about thingske seizing voting machines and declaring martial law. his own attorney-general dnis saying that sho happen. is this the kind of thing,, are we now in terrory where the people supporting -- where it could hurt the support that he has isome way? how do you see that? >> tamara: i'm not sure that it necessarily can really, truly hurt the support that he hs. but certainly it can hurt the democracy, it can hurt the country. and president trump, at this moment, it could also hurt his legacy. i and not clear he is thinking about his legacy -- well, it isot clear, he is thinking about his legacy in the same way any past presidenhas thought about their legacy. many past presidents have thought of sort of a
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smooth handoff as part of their legacy. president trump is in the middlef a crisis. this is a moment where, with the corusonavhe could be taking charge. but, instead, he is showina level of indifference, while at the same time tweeting out conspiracy theories, pillars of democra the free and fair elections. and, you know, he could be herking on coronavirus. heck, this wee could be out promoting two vaccines and "operation warped speed," and we just haven't seen him in days and days and days. even joe biden day sai that the current administration deserves some credit for "operationwa ed speed," but for inexplicable reasonstr presidenp isn't taking that victory lap.uf >>oo amy, contrast what we're seeing now with the president and what he is saying and what he is doing, orot doing,
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around the pandemic withus how prevresidents have related to crises moments in this country. >> amy: this is going to be one of the things we'llt bedying for quite a long time, judy. whether a better restonse ovid from the very beginning would haved helped donump's chances. it feels like we've had this conversation so many times over the course of his presidency. tumultuous year, and yet opinions about the president barely budge mainly because he never changed the way he operatedand there is very little that would change people's opinions of him because it got locked in so early on in his time as candidate and in his time as president. the thing to mehat i look and think sort of where does the republican party go sort of post-trump, what is trumpism without trump, it is kind of what he is doing now, which is: always fight. fight for everything.
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ito is nt about winning and luigi. admitting when you do lose. what worries me when we go forward, and thinking about can we put other deals like this together,ee can we more cooperation, if the whole point of politics is just to fight, then yor u're neing to end up with anything that looks like compromise, right? that compromise becomes something that only losers do. and so that makes for af very dficult and dangerous place for politics to go for the foreseeable future. which is why we're going to look and see, is joe bden going to be ale, just by turning the tonightemperature down, if not change that trajectory, at least slow n.it dow >> woodruff: just a very few seconds left, tam, but we're all watching to see how the dynamics change 2
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after januah. >> tamara: and it is certainly worth noting that the house will be very narrowly divided, too, and house members have fewer incent incentives to go along. the incentives aren't really there for homese ers to be bipartisan. >> woodruff: that was a big diposaptment for democrats in the house. we thank you both, tamara keith and amy walter, politics monday. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: on the newshour online right now, what was the soundtrack to your year? we asked 15 artists and writers for the songs they turned to for joy and reflection. listen to r 2020 playlist on our website, pbs.org/newshour. and that's the newshour r tonight.f. i'm judy woodr join us online and again here
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