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captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc >> woodruff: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight: the aftermath. a capitol police officer dies from injuries sustained in the violent insurrection inspired by the president as serious talk of impeachment emerges. then, the worsening crisis 4,000 americans ingle dayci than as the vtion campaign struggles keep pace. plus, the biden agenda.al wewith the woman the president-elect taps to help heal the economic pain. and, it's friday david brooks and jonathan capehart break down thimpact of the attack on the capitol and what the last days of the trump
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building to oust a sitting president in the final days of congressional correspondent lisa desjardins begins our coverage. >> desjardins: the pressure is building on president trump in president ump in the wake of dnesday's same on the u. capitol especially after a capitol hill police officer died of his injuries law enforcement officis said officer brian sicknick was hit in the head with a fire extinguisher.he as the fifth death overall, blinked to the mob attackpp trump suters. released by the washington post confronti alcohol police outside the house chamber. officers fired shots, fatally wounding babbi rvetiont. calling on democrats to impeach mr. trump again in his last tw weeks of >> the president can be impeached, and this can be sent the senate post haste.
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and the senate can take up the articles of impeachment. the senate but oy has to have the will to move forward and >> desjardins: house speaker nancy pelosi is calling for the cabinet to invoke the amendment, declaring thet presidfit and removing him from power. vice president mike pence has so far indicated he won'trt the move, something that would if required for it to happen. o, house democrats could introduce articles of impeachment on monday. in the senate, majority republicans were nearly unanimous in backing mr. trump during his first impeachment a year ago. but nebraska senator ben sasse said today he would consider voting to convict, this time. >> donald trump has acted shamefully. he has been in flagrant dereliction of his duty, and he will be remembered for having a incited th for having drawn more division into an dealready-dipeople. >> desjardins: in wilmington, delaware, presbient-elect joe n said he'll leave any impeachment process to congress. >> if were six months out, we
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should be moving everything to int him out of office, impeaching him a invoke-- trying to invoke the 25th amendment. whatever it took to get him out of office. but i am focused now on us taking control, as president and vice president on the 20th, d to get our agenda moving as quickly as we can. >> desjardins: meanwhile, president trump returned t twitter, now that the temporary ban on his account has been lifted. in a video message last night, he condemned those he said hade defiled at of american democracy. he also acknowledged his fight to stay in power is over. >> to all of my wonderful supporters, i know you are disappointed, but i also want you to know that our incredible journey is only just beginning. >> desjardins: today, he tweeted that he will not be attending president-elect biden's the last president who refused ti attend a successor's inaugu was andrew johnson in 1869.
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rv, too, had been impeached and ed a senate trial. in a separate tweet, mr. trump also declared his supporters will have "a giant voice long into the future," and, he said, "they will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!" but speaker losi warned that e president himself remains a she put out word that she had called the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, general mark milley, about preventing the president from using nuclear weapons or launching other attacks. sh democrats later that milley gave her assurances. >> barnett the colorado marsh seen wh his feet on speaker pelosi's desk. >> and now lisa joins me along with our nick shirch. hello to both of you, so much to ask you about. but lisa first, if the 25th amendment is not going to be invoked what do ospects look for impeachment?
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>>s right. this is something that is gaining momentum as speaker pelosi said herself in a statement today. different versions being drafted and working groups talking about charges could be insightment to insurrection. these articles could be introduced as early asy.on if that happens, the earliest a house vote could hapwepen woulde esday. we need to watch that very carefully. at the same time we have some interesting devepments on the senate side. s alasator lisa murkowski is calling for the president to resign. if he does not she will reconsider her allegiance to the wreablarty. that could change the balance of power the senate if she does a very strong threat. one more thing. the concept could the presidt be impeached after leaving office? i'm told by some working on this
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at the capital, there is precedent for this. tretary of war under president grant was impeached after leaving offices. wasn't convicted for a variety p reasons, but was impeached and there ecedent, something they're talking about. >> woodruff: well, lisana somewhat different subject you which are back at the capitol soday. tell us what thurity there is like right now and what more are you learning about what went wrong with security on wednesday? >> judy, i want to show you some photos i took at the u.s. alcohol. it is a different capitol hill. there is that seven foot fence.l natiuard members there, that fence is lining all of you can see all the broken glass is still there. that is the front door i witnessed being crashed into. i want to show a sign of hope. these are the workers putting up the drapery for inauguration. don't know the security details of that yet but something that's happening.
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the pomp and circumstance is going up. what went wrong? just say there weren't enoughl people. and about officer sicnic who was murdered by the rioters, i will tell you,he was well-known, they tell me not a single person disliked him he was very popular. he had a girlfriend and i don't know anything else about his family. >> our condolences of course to them. oodruff: such a tragedy. such a tragedy. so nick, we heart in lisa's reporting that spieker pelosi did call the c oairmthe joint chiefs of staff today. teleus what that was all about? >> yes, the speaker applied the political concerns tha been foisting about the president and applied them to national security. she told her caucus that she called chairman mille, he may
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initiate hostilities one way ore an he's so unstable. we're talking about military hostilities or launching codes for military strike. i asked if there were safe guards in place. ve butler, a spokeman for chairman mille, he answered her cesstions regarding the pro of nuclear command authority. it is extraordinary that the president's sole autrity to launch a nuclear weapon would be ised and the chairman of the joint chiefs would acknowledge it was disssed. judy, the last time we know that senior officials had conversations like this was the end of the nixon administration. >> woodruff: it is fetraordinary. nick there are ards in place that would prevent nuclear strike? from ordering a i mean, our speaker pelosi's concerns warranted? >> the president has sole authority to launch a nuclear there is any way event hime if
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from using that authority. the experts who i spoke to who say there are not safeguards describe this scenario. they say the president decides to launch a nuclear weapon against a legitimate military by the lawyers an the president orders relatively low level military officers to execute. the only thing prevent beingth launch would be the discretion of those officers who work within a system frankly that's built to carry out the president's orders. other experts i talkedo say that scenario is nearly impossible. they say senior military senior administration officials would be informed long before any launch and that current senofior cials would not authorize, to some kind of sudd attack initiated by the president would find to argue that that kind ofa attack illegal and senior national security officials who work for president trump tell me that president trump does not want nuclear war or any kind of war.
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but the akxperts i speo do acknowledge that the control of nuclear weapons is designed for the enario where t president responds to attack, judy. a president who suddenly wants to launch. >> woodruff: wl, it's a relief to hear you sierting arat the peoplend the president are saying. but it's even astonishing thatng we are discushis right now. nick schifrin, lisa desjardins, thank you both very much. >> woodruff: with momentum building on capitol hill for impeaching president trump, for the second time, we' joined by majority whip james clyburn. he is the third highest ranking democrat in the house of representatives, whereti impeachment es would be introduced. he joins us now from south carolina. representative clyburn. thank you very much for joining us.
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we know that speaker pelosi have said that if vice president pee and the cabine continue move to invoke the 25th amendment, then impeachment could take place. do you believe wiit happen next week? >> well, i certainlyope so. we have been talking to members, and there's strong sentiment and i might say bipartisan sentiment, for impeaching this president. the fact of the matter is impeachment will give us a tool, not just for removal, but it will be a tool for protti the integrity of our democracy. this president needs the scrutiny that impeachment will give him. >> woodruff: the grounds we've seen on at least -- in at least one of the articles that we've members, essentially cites -- is
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he the president is guilty of insightment to insurrection. is that what you see the house moving forward on? >> well, there are several members that have come up with various articles that they would like to seconsidered. and i some we'll be taking a look at all of them. i suspect there will be more than one, hopefully no more than three. but you know, i think that what the president did prior to the election down in georgia, was really impeachable. and that certainly ought to be one of the considerations given. t i think tha what he did trying to presre a state official through in some waytu ov the will of the voters, that to me is as impeachable as anything he may have said on the mall o to the people
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gathering in the mall. >> woodruff: and that you're referring tohat phone calto the georgia secretary of state where he asked him to find votes that would -- >> right. >> woodruff: change the outcome. i want to ask you, the president's only in office abo another 11 days. what is it accomplish, i hear you saying it would affect whether he could run again, serve again. but might you -- might this end up encouraging the people who already support the president to be even more fiercely supportive if they think dem are trying to take him down? >> well you know judy, i don't believe we ought to run the country that way. i e think the certain norms that we have to adhere to. i think ere are certain las that we have to obey. and we just n say, because he may have some political consequences, let's not do it. that is not the way to run the
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cup. i -- country. i think we ought to do what needs to be done in ord t protect the integrity of this democracy, and one of those, i believe, right now, is tope h this president. now, there's something interesting about imphment. the more i read this stuff the more things open up to me. one of them is this, when you are issuing pardons, i understand the president's got all kinds ofauthority to issue a pardon. ont if you read down, it says the exceptions he doesn't have is in cases of impeachment. now, he's talking about pardoning himself. so if he's attotemptin pardon himself and he's impeached that might answer the question for us, as to whether or not he can pardon himself. so there are a lotof things we need ttake a look d, in orer to determine what we need to do to protect the integrity of this democracy. already, nancy pelosi has been
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talking to the military leaders about what may or maneed to be done to keep us from getting ent alled me kind of international conflict. this president has demonstrated time and time again ha that he s no respect for the dignity of th offi he'll do anything he thinks is necessary in order to protect himself, including taking this country toa wr. involved.me, is worth us getting >> woodruff: and you believe impeachment in the house which would be a second time, even though the votes are not there in the senate to convict? >> absolutely. it didn't say is he convicted of, it is impeach. the house impeaches. the sene convict so if i just take the reading, it just says impeachment. so i think it's worth doing.
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and look he's already said he wants to be doing things that nobody else has much done before.l this wilhelp accommodate him. no president has ever been impeached for a second time before. so in this instance we'll behe ing him do at least one thing he always said he wanted to do and that something nobody else has done. >> woodruff: finall representative clyburn, this has been a terrible week with the assault on the united states capitol and on the members who serve in the u.s. congress. what is going to be your most enduring memory of this wednesday? >> well, my most enduring memory would be the conversations i uteing place between nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell. when we were bunkered down. i saw how the government ought to work.na y and mitch, coming together and saying, what we needed to do, to get bak to the capitol,
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and get back on the floor,an continue doing what's necessary to have efa peac transfer of power. >> woodruff: it'sn historic week for more than one reason. you're absolutely right about that. the majority whip i the u.s. house of representatives, chngressman james clyburn. thank you very >> thank you. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, president-elect biden signaled that he plans to release nearly all available vaccine doses after taking office. the trump administration has held back some doses to ensure people get a second, required shot. all of this comes as the u.s. recorded more than 4,000 deaths
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on thursday. we will take a closer look, after the news summary. the relentless surge in infections has forced more businesses to lay off workers. the u.s. labor department rep sorts employed a net 140,000 jobs last month-- the first monthly decrease since april. with tha still has nearly ten million fewer jobs tn before the pandemic. the unemployment rate in december remained at 6.7%. president-elect joe biden today introduced the economic team in his appearance in wghts, delaware, today, his appears says it's more urgent than ever. >> the jobs report is a pandemic with the pandemic raging, the people are losing work and losing hope.
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the job report shows that we relief for working families and businesses now. his choice for commerce secretary, the mayorof boston, marty walsh walsh will be the nominee for secretary of labor and isabel guzman is e pick to lead the small business ministration. north korea's leader kim jong-un, spoke during a meeting of the ruling party but kim said he won't use nuclear weapons unless scawrltd hostile forces use theirs first against rth korea. in indonesia, a radical ablam ick cleric was bakar bashir was linked to the 2002 bali bombing thatll 202 people-- most of them supporters welcomed him backn,
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to his hometnd police said they will monitor his activities. bashir is now 82 and in ill health. back in this country, major indexes on wall street scored a new round of rord closes. the dow jones industrial average gained 56 points to end near 31,098. the nasdaq rose 134 points, and the s&p 500 added 20 points. and, hall-of-fame baseball manager tommy lasorda died late thursday in fullerton, california, of a heart attack.e lasorda led ths angeles dodgers to two world series titles, during his 71 years with the franchise. he later became a kind of ambassador for the game. tommy lasorda was 93 years old. still to come on the newshour: the coronavirus claims over 4,000 americans ingle day as the vaccination campaign struggles. the president-elect nominates iny members for his cabinet, signthe priorities of his administration.
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david books and jonathan capeheart help us understand this momentous week in u.s. history. plus, much more. ar off if have top of the news. but the virus is not tting up. the death toll has now passed 365,000 in the u.s., nearly 130,000 people areze hospita with it now. and the best hope for moving past the pandemic, mass vaccinations is going slower than had been expected. stephanie sy looks at what can
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be done now >>sy: daily deaths from covid-19 topped 4,000 for the first time. the highest rate of covid-positive diagnosis right here in arizona. the shaky rollout of the vaccine has yet to put a dent in the sucialg and today we learned that the incoming biden administration is planning a new strategy to release all available vacine, that would free up doses for people, but crics say it could delay the second dose, which the fda hasad sed against. so far 21 million doses have been distributed, nearly 6 million have gotten that first dose, including 600,000 in the long term care facilities. dr. paul offit is a member of committee dr. offit thank you so much for being with us this
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evening. is it a good item to release and administer every dosesipose right now? >> i think what the biden plan is doing is they're making a big bet and i think an unnecessary bet. what they're saying is we know the two doses of vaccine, whether it is the pfizer or moderna vaccine, is 95% effective, we know that. depending on the company, what they're saying is i'm going to put all the firsts doses out there. now they're assuming that they're going to be able to mas, prodass distribute and mass administer that second dose in a timelmanner where you're then still getting that second dose three or four or five weeks later or six weeks later. what worries me is it might not then. it might be two months later or three months later or worse that some people wouldn't get vacce at all and we know that that second dose is critical to inducing a response and likely a
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more immune response. vaccine so far, putting it alls out there inially, and hoping can you get the second dose in time, may do far more harm than good. dists well a bied administration official told me dr. offit tht they are planning to manufacture, continue to ramp up and just this week moderna told the walltreet journal that they are ramping up to 6 millio0 million doses this year. would you change your opinion? w ll it assumes that there is no glitches in manufacture which is -- history tells us is not necessarily a good idea. it is not only a novel vaccine approach in the nse we have no an mrna approach before, it is not easy to scale up.
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scaled up, i hope they're right, i ho there are no glitches, i hope we mass produce, mass distribute, mass administer in time for people to get that second dose. but you can see the concern given how much problem we've had so far. dist>>sy : re, given this new variant that's more contagious we're seeing it is time to consider freeing up more of these doations. inventory someone you have worked with dr. robert wa wachtr said, the first dose could be 80 or 90ve effec this is all very confusing for the public, could you clear it? >> sure. for pfizer it's thr weeks andd
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for erna it is four weeks. with the pfizer vaccine it was about 50% efficacy, witthe moderna it was 80% efficacy. you don't know whether that's also true for two months later or three months later. it's probably not true. studies where you get one vaccine and you get the second dose there isa dramatic boost with that second dose. the first doas doesn't frae ly compl that favorably with the kind a immune rection you see from people who survive e infection. that's with why companies went with aecond do. that's why we could take a one dose vaccine. i thk you're taking unnecessary risk that you'll delay getting that second dose. dists millions of doses have. >>sy: millions of doases have bestributed but they are sitting on hospital shelves. c
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whld reasonably be done to get this vaccine more effecve, geit into people's shoulders? >> that's the problem. we have enoughtrouble giving a first dose now period. publik we're asking the health system to do something that it's really not currently quipped to do which is to mass distribute and mass administ this. we have to find a way to give this vaccine in stadiums and auditoriums and churches and synagogues and line people up to do this and get volunteers to do this and put the money into it and e personnel to do it tt allows us to do that. that's the problem. that's what i wish we would do now, ptting peoplein a risk for they may get a delayed second dose or not get a se dose. the first dose doesn't induce that dramatic of an immune response, and behave in a manne whhey think they're protected and aren't. >>sy: we're still awaiting
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more details for t incoming administration's plans. the devil will be in the details. dr. paul offit, joifnus from chicago, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> woodruff: as president-elect den is preparing to change the isderal government's approach towards covid, hlso about to inherit an economy that may be slowing down significantly. today's monthly jobrt, the last during the trump era, wasut the worst in aight months. sd the economic sluggishness is connected with tge of covid and efforts to stop it. cecilia rouse has been nominated to be the chair of the president's council of economic advisors. she joins me now.e cecilia roank you so much for being with us. this administration will begin but as we juts said, with a loss of jobs in december owhat,
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140,000, what shape is the u.s. economy in? >> well, itvery clear from the jobs report and from other indicators that thu.s. econo is struggling. and this is just a dramatic reminderhat before the economy can get back to full health, we need to corol thpandemic. these are just linked. so ts is just furthervidence that we're struggling. >> woodruff: and when the president elect says as d today that he's going to be asking congress right away for the financial wherewithal to deal wie virus, what does that mean? how much money are you going to be asking for? and for what purpose? >> what we can see is that until we get the pandemic under control, the economy is going to struggle. we need to ensure that we help thhou businesses, the state and local governments that are trying to get through this pandemic. we need to make sure that we minimize the harm to individual
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businesses and states. the president elect, we recognize that the package that congress passed is really important to help us to get to the next stage of this crisis but it's just a down payment. vthat we know the indiiduals are going to knead additional support because we know that the unemoyment rate is still likely to be elevated. states are struggling. we can see what the vaccine rollout in terms of our first responders and our hlth response, and then we need to get teachers back into schools. this report showed t state and local governments lost about 50,000 jobs and that educators outeachers, at support or schools, we had losses of 20,000. >> woodruff: r ght. >> so der for women in particular to get back to work, we know that children have o get back to school. so the president elect will beg putting ther a package that will address these vario concerns to help us al get to the other side of this pandemic. >> woodruff: well will one of the first things be say that $1e0 additional to get to
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$2,000 that democrats were pushing up until republicans put a stop to it? >> the president elect today said that he wasto committe ensuring that we provide families and individuals with tht e diryments to ensure that they can pay the bills, pay the rent, put food on e table. and so yes, he would like to complete that, complete that effort. democrats like senator joeav mancn, worried whether those are tard geough, worried about spending more than the government can afford. how confident are you to get that through? >> so i'm part of the economic team and what i hope is that congress understands, that a wide array of ecotanomists unde and agree, is it in order for us to actually get back on a path of economic health in order for us to in coming out of this pandemic,wth that we need to provide relief
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to households, businesses and state and local governments. >> woodruff: and what we're seeing cecilia rouse iths this pandemic is taking a lot longer to work through than i think anybody expected, as you know the numbs are getting worse. thn you -- i mean how can you foresee doint? because you have the president lect also talking about a much bigger,multitrillion dollar package in the spring that would get into issues like infrastructure. i mean how many can you actuallh get done givenneeds out there? >> right now, we have to address the pandemic. we have to provide really for families. but we know thas just to get us, that's just like a life raft. if we're going to geo trry this analogy further if we're going to get back to shore and h we're going e a really healthy economy not only do we have to provide relief right now, we have to ensure as we're rebuilding the economy that everybody is able to
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participate. so hence the efforts around infrnotructure. wewe have serious needs in investments in infrastructure of actually good investments. and they putpeople to work. they are foundations of growth. and so those e smart investments. we certainly don't want to just be wasting money, just be the strategy here is to help families get to the other side but also to make those investments that will actually builds back.owth as our eco >> woodruff: the refrain wero hearrepublicans at the same time is that joe biden is going to raise taxests. ait for it to happen. is that part of the plan? how much in taxes? and on what income levels? to the president elect is committeaking these and recognizes ths not way. just a spending spree and that we have to be mindful about how we're going to pay for some of the investments, especially those that are mor permanen
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and he looks forward to working with congrs, to finding those sources of revenues. there are going to be some hard choices but these are really important choices in order for us to ensure that the economy continues to grow and to flourish for all americans. >> woodruff: much more to talk about on that and we' have opportunitiesto i'm sure to talk about it in the future but i do want to ask you about your role. you were the first black person to occupy this role as chairman of the pesident's council of economic advisors in what it's th year history. what does t mean to you, what do you think it means to the country?re >> well, it'ly annal honor for me. this is my third time in washington. i strted at the national economic council and then i was a member of president oama's council of economic advisors. the council of economic advisors provides the president and his administration with objective, evidence-based research and data to help guide the follow making
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that underscores the administration. it's ahonor to be nominated to have such a role.oo and so iforward to trying we put forth going forward areat evidence-based and importantly, thathethelp all americans to participate and flourish in our economy going forward. the president elect's pick to be the chair of his council of economic advisors. thank you so much for talking with us. >> thank you so much for having me. >> woodruff: we mark this momentous week with the next chapter in a newshour tradition. to help us understand all we witnessed, the analysis of brooks and capehart. that's "new york times"
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columnist david brooks and >> l sunday show on msnbc and successor i shouldsay to mark shields. jonathan, welcome to the newshour to friday s and it is a long tradition. you join us we are sad to say on a week that is probably one of the worst certainly in washington history and american history with this asthsault on cosmopolitan. capitol. an yi want to start withu jonathan. how are you proasing what happened? >> capehart: well first judy thank you so much fo welcome and i also want to thanr mark shieldssetting an incredible example that i hope to meet every friday. this has been an incredible week. i am still processing what happened. i'm not surprised by what happened, given who the president of the united state is, and his track record over the last four years, in terms of
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insighting passions in people that go way beyond what they should be. but i will admit that i was shocked to see a ma marauding bd of i'll use this phrase, domestic terrorists storage is site alt of american democracy. brazenly breaking into the s unittes capitol, breaking into senate chamber and that iconic photo that was oe front page of the "washington post" and other newspapers f lawd the country, enforcement pointing their guns at the doors, and seeing the faces of the people trying to burst inside. these are images and pictures that the american people never thought ey would see in their country, and in their nation's pitol. >> woodruff: and david brks, as you're reflecting on this,
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what are you thinking? >> brooks: well it felt like a desecration to me. this is our holyof holies, this is where america comes, in awe. i remember the first time i went d at 14, i s in awe, in reverence spect, to see it trashed physically and morally, it produces so of a bone wearying sadness as desecration tends to. jonathan is right to pick up on the images of the guns on floor, the imagesof that wolf man sha masmawn guy, four -- shaman guy, four years of moral degradation for the canuntrd humiliation. that one of the reporters sawote national guardsmen in the wasunda today, and this
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their first time in the alcohol. and these guys were in awe. these were young men, in awe and that's what america really is, i hope, i hope. >> woodruff: well, it's goode to be ab pick out something to as you say that's uplifting as we move on from this. but the repercussions jonathanar enormous. condemnation raining down on president trump for caing for his supporters to come to washington, for urging themo ke on the capitol, to turn over the -- ject the election results, i'll just say quickly, we had a -- we joined with a merist in a poll, we asked if president trump is to blame among national adults, is he to blame blaim a good amount, 63%, not very much, not at all, 35%,
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and i should say even 30% of republicans agreed that the president is to blame. where do we go from here? as you know there's talk of impeachment, serious talk starting in just a couple of days, invokinthe 25th amendment. what should happen? >> capart: somethingulsho hatch. the president needs to be held accountable. it does not matter that he has 12 days left in oice. he eeds to be held accountable for what he insighted on wednesday. he needs to be --and if that means removing him from office be it.the 25th amendment, so it doesn't look like that that's the vice president has sort of made it clear from reports i've seen that he's not terribly interested in that. so then you remove him or try to remove him by impeachment. but as house majority whip john clyburn said with an interview
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with you, the emphasis is on impeachment, impeaching him for his second time inis term i think is a humiliation, a negative branding of his administration that would be well deserved precisely because toof what he di trash the ultimates capital, trash our american democracy, and once again, show that he has neither reverence for or respect for the constitution or the office of the presidency. >> woodruff: david, how do you happen with the president?should >> brooks: yes, i don't support the 25th amendment. that is for ingscaps takin the problem is he isn't incompass taillighted. i would on the merits bein favor of impeachment. if sending a marauding force is an impeachable offense i don know what is. if the senate was deliberating
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it would be an act of discipline, a sword hanging over his head whthich mestrain him in his final days office. i think it's highly unlikely convict. senate would ever the fall back position would censuring him. from ever running for feral office. and that's important i think because, it would reduce hi roam as an intimidator in the republican party and reduce the possibility that he ruorns f office in 2024, which i do not think he has the -- deserves the standing to do right now. add that the socdiai should platform twitter has already stepped in tonight. we've just learnedthat they have permanently blocked president trump. he will not be able tose twitter anymore. i know some ople are asking, you know, why now after four years? is is a step that twitter's taken. and jonathan, i mean it leads us to asking about the other
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republicans, so many republicans in the hou, of representativ ec8 of them voted to block on -- electoral vote results, that had joe bidenti winning the eln. in other words, rejecting biden's n. this is part of the fallout from althis. where does this leave the republican party? where does it leave the biden pridency with this kind of rejection of him as he takes offices? >> well, where it leaves e republican party is, des.troy yes, 138 house republicans voted for the objection. but the key thing is, they voted for that objection, after theto cawas invaded by seditionists. sohat tells me a lot about notices people who are sitting in the house. i believethere are the fo is eight senators who voted
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the objections, after what happened earlier that day on wednesday. and senators ted cruz and josh hawley especially should be ashamed of what they did to that chamber and to -- and to our democracy by doing what -- doing what they did and doing wha'rt th doing. so when it comes to republican party, they have a lot of soul-searching to do. when it comes to president biden or now still president elect biden, regardless of whppat ed, let's say wednesday had not happened, he still would be dealing with a 50-50 senate which is vice president chair'sa harris casting the tie breaking vote, the smallest demratic jority in a very long time. his governing ability wasin already to be constrained. but if there is one possible silver lining that could comeha out of whapened on
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andnesday is that what happened, onry sixth 6th, was so shocking to the conscience of more thanrepublicans on capitol hill, that it will shock them into getting back to work. becae this nation has a lot of issues that need to be attended to. ast among them are actually top of mind, the coronandvirus ic. as we keep breaking death toll averages every day including today. >> woodruff: and david, touching on what jonathan just said, lisa musse murkowski the republican from alaska considering whether she should even stay in the party. where our gornment is as joe biden prepares to take office? >> brooks: jonathan and i will have our first
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disagreement. 50-50 senators extremely narrow minority in the house, and hope is that we break the fever here. you know this is a uple days in which lisa murkowski, chris christie, three republis n governve called for resignation, we have the wall street journal page calling for the resignation of the president. mitt romney was heroic, ben sass, has come out, finly at this late hour after having their offices invaded, a t o republicans not all but a lot of republicans are saying this hasr gony. i do think finally this late hour, they will rget nose and courage from this but they are saying we have got to redirect our party. and the number of people are even thinking about cooperating achment hearing on the republican side. i think i read correctly in our
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pol, 80% of republicans, at least od news do think this is not the end of the republican party but i hope it is th moment when the trumpist fever broke. >> woodruff: we will see and jonathan i'm going to give you the last word on that in about 30 seconds.ke because i jus thinking back to what jim clyburn the house majority whip said, one of hisenduring memories from wednesday was seeing nancy pelosi and mitch mcconnell huddling together, talking about what to do to getack to wor emsthere are a lot of pro that need to be worked on from the coronavirus pandemic to the economy to infrastructure to the climate, to climate change there is a lot of work to do. and so if nancy pelosi and mitt romney can sit and talk with
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hach other then i hope that that is something thappens with more frequency and more publicly so that there is a signal that is sent to the entire nation, that we're going to k together and we're going to get through this. >> woodruff: all right and i'm being told that i misheard congressman clyburn at he actually overheard nancy pelosi talking with mitch mcconnell, that is my bad. i misheard it. but thank yoi think the point ie much the same. but thank you both very much. jonathan capehart. david brooks, thank you. we remember five individuals who have lostheir lives to
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covid-19. >> woodruff: whether it was showtunes... or ♪ >> woodruff: .hristmas carols at her family annual holiday party, where she harmonized with her husband andl two childrenmusicians. the daughter of teachers, rosemary followed in her parent's footsteps and taught middle school choir in pinellas coty, florida for 15 years. whether she was teaching or hosting a party, rosemary was warm, gregarious and easy to befriend, her sister said. she was 51 years old. acn krawiec was a svivor, journalist, and r.
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a polish newsman, john survived nazi concentration camps, and later in life, taught students about the war at the illinois holocaust museum. for 18 years, the decorate t journalist w editor of the polish daily paper in chicago. john was a history and geography buff; a family man who often said about his life, "i drank good scotch with good friends. john was 101 years old. sybil robins was driven and entrepreneurial, with an eye for spotting unique and exquisite arts and crafts. born in brooklyn, new york, sybil was a longtime student of art history, and eventually ened a craft galleryn scarsdale. she showcased work that reflected her extensive travels around the world with her husband of 65 years and their son. generous and altruistic, sybil regularly volunteered her time
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charities.tions for auctions and chris miller had many talents: he was a star athlete, a leader at his crch, a gifted welder and artist; but cooking was his true passion. s dreamed of one day opening n restaurant, with an inventive menu fusing asian and italian flavors. ol austin college in texas, the 21-yeachose business administration for his major,ow eager to learnestaurants succeed. humble and kind, chris stood six feet tall, butas a "gentle giant" to his friends and family, who said he would give the srt off his back to anyone in need. nelly sfeir gonzalez dedicated her life to her five sons, her family said. she was active and imaginative, and quick to make friends. a strong believer in education,
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the bolivian native had a three- decadeareer at the university of illinois library, where she was an accomplished librarian and bibliographer. she also was the founding editor of the bolivian studies journal. nelly was 90 years old. to all those who have passed our hear go out to your loved ones as they do to everyone who has lost a loved one this week. he week,"our very own yamiche e cindor wl pick up the where we left off, as derates discussion of an extraordinary america interrupted. i talked to our own lisa
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