did skin color make a difference in the police response to the dc? the district attorney absays, lutely, yes. he gives us his strategy for a more equitable justice system. the vaccine is here. the distribution has been slo we are on the verge of another tidal wave of infections in california. we round up the big political stories from calls for the impeachment of president trump to a recall effort against governor newsom. we listened to something musical,a version of georgia on my mind.

♪ the extremist attack on the nation's capital liis week hited the role of race in policing. our first guest shares his perspective. he is a prosecutor takingaim on who gets criminalized and why. is a new district attorneyof s angeles, he says that it is time to undo what he calls decades of racist hyr incarceration. a former police officer who served in san francisco for nearly a decade took office inlo angeles one month ago and has already implemented broad changes. he will not seek the death penalty in the future. he wants to drop sentencing enhancements. all in pursuit of decreasing systemic racism. is facing significant opposition to his policy changes.

thank you for joining us today. >> my pleasure. >> on the day of the takeover, you tweeted the police seem to have lost their handffs. what did you mean by that? >> what i meant is that, this is an event that was planned. there's a lot of evidence that this was going peto h we had the president and people to come. it was not an issue here. we saw police being prepared, and people started to show up and they were allowed people to get through. it wcontrast from what we saw last year we had black life matter demonstrating in the capital mostly peaceful people. we saw a tremendous show of force. the evidence of racism in our system continues to flow.

>> obviously we know the contrary is the case. we saw the destruction. >> you talk about a two-tier system. we saw that pl out inthe capital this week. how have you seen that play out in california during your years as distri attorney?>> is continuous. you look at the number of people that are always african- american. weather services gore la. nment. in the states. you coinue to sethe evidence of systemic racism in the work we do. thats why we need to start thinking about reimagining our system. >> you'rlking a transformation of the criminal justice system in california, wh do you see is

fundamentally broken that needs to be fixed?>> first of all i al woulst say the system is broken and i've come to the conclusion that it was doing what it waintended to do. is a system that has an income. what needs to happen is you really need toreimagine the way that we achieve community safety. we need to reduce our reliance on the punishment which has not worked for us. >> you are not alone, you're part of a wave of domestic das. you started that work in san francisco for nine years. there has been many others who have ce onto the scene who feel similarlyo are fighting a lot of pushback when it comes to this softer approach to criminal justice. what do you think is the n biggest concr your critics out there? >> i want to point out, it is

of smarter. what we have been doing for so many years our rates are exemely high. the punishment was a currency of species. question the pushi'm earlier getting towards people, we have a system that has highlevels of punishment. we have created an industry. any time you challenge you'll get a pushback and that is what is occurring. many people are supporting what i am doing. thersome people that are not. >> you often note your thoughts on criminal justof all. what has been the most signifant shift and w you be our system of crime and punishment?>> when i become the

district attorney and a clear focus on incarceration. that was a major conforming why a became a district attorney. the system is broken and needs to be fixed. i think with the conclusion of the system it really isn't to have orders. m was to incarcerate a lot of people. incarcerate a lot of black people. we need to start rethinking th way we achieve community safety and community well-being. and community health. >> what are ose changes, how should we be looking at these issues? >> i think we ed to start invoking science. when does a work and when it does work. the impact of punishment. we need to reduce the punishment and we need to start shifting. we need to use more

public health. we can move more thoughtful. we ed to start reallocating funding from the criminal justice system. is that possible? is there funding and ac infrastructure in for that to happen? are you finding those changes are making a difference?>> it is possible. it is a matter of reallocating resources and priorities. s pris one of the most expensive components of the system. prosecution action, ja, policing. have seen some of that happening in la county.

they put it into public health. implication. it really funde about 30 years ago. s e public university built on the last three decades. they allocated their resources. >> there's a special directive with major changes to the system as soon as you took office last month. the union for your da has filed suit against the directive. are you willing to make compromises on some of the changes you are folookin i said from the very beginning that this will be an evolution. we have artie made adjustments. i'm not going to compromise on the principles. the procedures that we need to

continue to evaluate. at the principles we need to reduce and the principles we have to go after it's not an area. is the very essence of why people voted for me. >> which specific changesul you say ese cannot go. these will not change. >> the area holding the prosecutors accountabl we won't compromise in that area. althe ovconcept of mass incarceration is not an area that we're going to compromise. the area of dealing with juveniles in a different way.

>> will you be re aggressively officers who have en involved in excessive use of force cases? >> we re very aggressive in san francisco. laws were different. we have new laws that supported the laws. the former da gave a pass on some of those. in moving forward we are working with a special prosecutor on some of those cases. po villager goocing is rewarded. >> in the last few moments, you have not yet made major expect to do that in the coming weeks or months in order to have people that you're working with on your team whose ideas sink with yrs?>> we are oking at a first phase of the

organization office. it will be announced later this month. there are differences in our office.th have to be able to deal with a lot of restrictions on how you move peoe. how you promote people. it creates ffent challenges. we are moving thforward with process of reorganization. we will continue to move forward.>> thank you for your time. >> my pleasure, thank you. now for an update on . e pandem coronavirus numbers keep climbing in california. there was more than 50,000 new infections thursday alone. while the death toll has stclimbed above 28,000 ewide. we get reports of ambulances circling hospitals were i was looking for space r criticalill patients. healthcare workers say they are

exhausted. one supervisor called the situation a sthuman disa. is expected to grow more dryer. hundreds ofthousands of doses of vaccine have been stuck in warehouses or in-transit. rn the go acknowledged this week that the state needs to do better. g join now is dr. maldonado. thank u for joining us. you are in the field right now, tells about where you are and what's going on.>> i am in the teoutpatient treatment on the stanford campus seeing patients. >> this has been set up due to the virus. telle us about activity that is happening there.>> when we developed our own diagnostic check test it was designed for emergency use we develoskd several for people to

come in and be able to thdrive ugh and get tested. we were able to take a couple tenths and made them into outpatient treatment centers for therapeutic trial. they are safer here for other patients. and keep them away from the main hospital. >> the numbers have been going up, and we are hearing that we should expect another 15,000 hospitalizations in california in the next 10 day the california hospital association says it's like standing on a beach and watching the tsunami approach. is that your sense as well, and what are you concernethabout next week or two weeks? >> frankly i saw -- this is my exact words. tsi saw a ami coming back in

october and november. think we havebeen very prepared here at stanford. i think the state has been warning people. the one group thathas not preceded this tsunami is the numbers of people who don't believe that this is real. and will wear masks and won't i think the healthcare providers are quite aware of we are seeing a little bit of a leveling off today, but we do not know what will haen in the next few days. even if it levels off, we are leveling off at record high levels. is notgreat news here. they should not be the new normal. >> you are on the committee that's working with the cdc on the vaccine rollout. tell me about your evaluation of the vecsey distribution in the states of our. >> the vecsey distribution is onot pa the cdc. the distribution is very --

it's not a uniform approach. it happens at the federal level and it's where the vaccines are eligible to the state. different county health departments can ma their own decisions or around the allegations. is a patchwork allocation scheme. that is just the way the healthcare system works in the united states. >> there has owbeen a wn in the distribution of vaccines throughout california due to logistical constraints. such as keeping the vaccine cold, and transporting i can you tell us how that is playing out? >>we have been doing a great job because we have all of those resources. we have been able to manage and transport the storage, ndthe

ng and distribution quite well. even that is an operational challenge, because we have never had to do thyo before. are layering on and developing a brand-new operational system on top of ng exis systems while you are aling with the rge of patients coming into the hospital. many of those are not covid patients either. we are talkingr patient escarensibilities. it's not optimal. we are doing a good job all things considered. some areas do nohave the resources that a placanlike rd might have. >> should they bring more people to help administer the vaccine? for example there are thousands of fight and available nursing students. should they be getting to help? needs are, i do think that a he rapid needs assessment -- what

are the challenges that each county and local area are spacing. how do you respond to those needs? the needs might be different in different places. if you are in a rural area where there is a low-densouy populationneed to get to the last mile. you may not need more backs and eaters. úyou need a way to have people drive up and ge vaccines to people. i worked in developing countries where we have given vaccines to people who live inat areas have not been put on the map. though systems have developed over many years. itry hard to do that rapidly. i think nowe are used to dealing with a crisis like this in the first world. getting a sense of what are the needs locally, and addressing those should be done very rapidly at the state level i think. >> could you tell me about the

second doses. how does a anrolling out, if those seem to be needed or if they will be used to stretch the vaccine supply.>> onthe quesbout a second dose remains to be resolved. at this time the with the clinical trials were set up, they were set up to answer a specific queion. that is, do two doses were compared to know doses. i think at this time we shld be rolling out second doses as quickly as we can, because we don't understand whether you need the second osdose to the immunity that you get from the first dose. what our concern that th first dose may give you partial immunity or making the immunity that doesn't really last very long, so ecin e if you miss out on the seco dose orwait too long for the second dose it is possible, although we don't know that it may be like giving short-term are no immunity at all. we need to get better information about that before we start thinking abt deferring or canceling second th doses alto.

>> you tell me more about this new virus variant that has been found and how you expect that ac to icases both regionally and globally?>> there is a number of variance. we know these viruses were will you ke. what's important about what we are seeing now is these variance are succumbing to what we call selective pressure. as the rimmuponse -- as people get infected and there's immune response to viruses that don't get to infected with thb succ the immune system. as viruses mutate they might survive because they were able to escape immunity. the concern will be that over time there could be an o accumulatithese variance. so far they don't seem to be causing more disease. there are decent indications that they could be more infectious. they might be able to infect human cells a little better

than thepre-variant we do need to keep an eye on them. we need to focus on the basics. that is masking, distancing. cleani. keeping all ofthose guidelines in place. it will keep us from re-from infection with those variance at this time. the cdc issued a study showing most transmission will be coming from asymptomatic individual. >> weappreciate your time. >> inc. you for making this an initiative that everyone should hear. unprecedented, unrivaled, unmatched and unparallel. as armed extremists stormed

the capital this week. in california the effort to recall governor newsom is growing under vecsey distribution delays. start the mob that descended this week, what went through your mindas we watched? >> i was shocked, but not surprised. they demonize opposition party of outright falsehoods about the selection. i think it was a scary moment because it wasn't attack on our democracy. it raises questibes we have asking about the way black and brown people are treated differently than white people are when it comes to licing and security. >> did it feel surprising? >> it was shocking, but not

surprising given the rhetoric of the president and everything that has transpirsince charlottesville. is a human being, it was infuriating to see the nation's capital desecrat and trashed found it to be infuriating. >> president trump is still inr power two weeks. democrats want to impeach him agai much of the charges being led by some of california's elective aders is is going to be symbolic? >> an impeachment if it was sustained in the senate could prevent him from running again. i think isimportant even if it is just symbolic. that we make ose symbolic acts. these are people who are trying to undermine the democratic will of the american people. that is not something you get to pass on because you ly have 12 days left in office. >> we are hearing that trump may looking at pardoning

himself, is that possible? >> it's untested. he could try it and it would go to court i'm sure. it would not resolve his pr lems in the statlike new york where he is being investigated for tax fraud and other issues. i don't think thatwould solve his legal problems. that's really setting in, the reality that he is no nger going to have the privilege of executive protection. >> scott you are looking at the role california played. teich split the se and gave, here is the deciding vote. what did you see when it comes to california's involvement short-term, californiayou ative will the campaigns. with more than tens of millions of dollars in the past several weeks. it's been extraordiny. is also shown volunteers in georgia to helput. the more reason i spoke yesterday was for phillips he

has been working with abrams for a decade. it was californians like steve phillips and allison who are working closely with amy. to make this happen. it is a testament to long-term planning and focus. >> what is the latest on the recall effort? as you talk about the competition that is shaping up for the governor's shift with lcsan diego er.>> we do know that folks would like to recall newsom have until march i to get signatures. they say they are getting closer. they oppose the restrictions on covid. he did launch a coittee. he hasbeen expected to challenge in 22. if they can get this in the

ballot did have orthe nization in time to mount a we had some good news come nor? out of the california budget today, tell us about that. >> the goveor unveiled a 227 billion dollars spending plan and it was larger than expected. it was quite a large ween fall. there wi more money putting into the rainy day fund. mmoey for k-12 education as well as high education. vecsey distribution, immediate health or sml businesses and individuals hurt by the recession. all in all, california had a lot to be pleased by and proud of. given how many people are struggling and how many states are facing large deficits. >> we thank you so much for your insightand time.

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