did skin color make a difference in the police response tthe dc? the district attorney says, absolutely, yes. more equitable justice system. the vaccine is here. the distribution has been slow. we are on the verge of another tidal wave of infections in california. we round up the big political impeachment of president trump to a recall effort against governor newsom. we listened to something musical, a versio of georgia on my mind.

♪ emthe ext attack on the nation's capital this week highlighted the role of race in policing. our first guest shares his perspective. he is a prosecutor taking aim on who gets criminalized and why. is a new district attorney of los angeles, he says that it is time to undo cawhat he s decades of racist hyper incarceration. a former police officer who served in san francisco for nearly a decade took office in los angeles one month ago and has already implemented broad changes. he will not seek the death penalty in the future. he wants to drop hasentencing ements. alin pursuit of decreasing systemic racism. is facing significant oppositiono his policy changes. u

thank for joining us today. >> my pleasure. >> on the day of the takeover, you tweeted the police seem to have lost their handcuffs. what did you mean by that? >> what i meant is that, this is an event that was planned. the's a lot evidence that this was going to happen. we hadthe president anpeople to come. it was not an issue here. and people started to show up and they were allowed people to get through. it was a contrast from what we saw last year acwe had life matter demonstrating in the capital mostly peaceful people. we saw a tremendous show of force. the evidence of racism in our system continues to flow.

>> obviously we know the we saw the destruction. >> you talk about two-tier system. we saw that play out in the capital this week. how have you seen that play out in california during your years as district attorn?>> is continuous. you look at the number of people that are always african- americ. disproportionately imprisonment. weather services gore la. in the states. you continue tosee the evidence of systemic racism in the work we do. that is why we need to start thinking about reimagining our system. a >> you're talking transformation of the criminal justice system in california, u what do see is

fundamentally broken that needs to be fixed?>> first of all i would almost say the system is conclusion that it was doing what it was intended to do. is a system that has an income. what needs to happen is you way that we achieve community safety. we need to reduce our reliance on the punishment which has not worked . for >> you are not alone, you're part of a wa of domestic das. you started that work in ansan sco for nine years. there has been many others who have come onto the ene who feel similarly. fi you are ting a lot of pushback when it comes to this softer approach to criminal justice. what do you think is the biggest concern for your critics out there? >> i want to point out, it is

of smarter. what we havebeen doing for so many years our rates are extremely high. the punishment was a currency of species. with the point of the earlier question the pushback i'm getting towards people, we have a system that has high levels of punishment. we havcreated an industry. any time you challenge you'll get a pushback and that is what is occurring. many people are supporting what i am doing. there some peoplethat are not. >> you often note your thoughts on crinal justice of all. what has been the most significant shift and how you be our system of crime and punishment?>> when i become the

district attorney and a clear s foon incarceration. that was a major conforming on why a became district attorney. the system is broken and needs to be fixed. i think with the concsion of the system it really isn't broken the system was designed to have orders. to incarcerate a lot of inpeopl rcerate a lot of black people. ee weto start rethinking the way we achieve community safety and community well-being. and community health. >> what are those changes, how should we be looking at these issues? >> i think we need start when does a wo and when it does work. the impact of punishment. we need to reduce th punishment and we need to start shifting. we need to use more

public health. we can move more thoughtful. we need to start reallocating funding from th criminal justice system. is that possible? is there funding and infrastructure in place for that to happen? are you finding those maanges arng a difference?>> it is possible. it is a matter of reallocating resources and priorities. prisons is one the most expensive components of the system. prosecution action, jail, policing. is resources. we have seen some of that happening in y.la cou

they put it into public health. implication. it ally funded about 30 years ago. one public unersity was buil on the last three decades. they allocated their resources. >> there's a special directive with major changes the system as soon as you took the union for your da has filed suit against the directive. are you willing to make compromises on some of the changes you are looking for? >> i saidfrom the very beginning that this will be an evolution. we haartie made adjustments. i'm not going cpromise on the principles. the procedures that we need to

continue to evaluate. the principles that we need to reduce and the principles we have to go after it's not an area. is the very essen of why people voted for me. >> which specific changes would you say these canngo. these will not change. >> the area holding the prosecutors accountable we ro won't cose in that area. the overall concept of camass eration is not an area that we're going omtoomise. the area of dealing with juveniles in a different way.

>> will you be ivmore aggrey going after law-enforcement officers who have been involved in excessive use of force cases? >> we were very aggressive in laws were different. we have new laws that supported the laws. fo some of those. pass on in moving forward we are working with a special prosecutor on some of those cases. villager good policing is rewarded. >> in the last few moments, you have not yet made major personnel changes, do you t expedo that in the coming weeks or months in order to have people that you're working with on your team whose ideas sink with yours?>> we are looking at a first phase of the

organization office. it will be announced later this month. there are differences in our office. they have to be able to deal with a lot of restrictions on how you move people. how you promote people. it creates different challenges. we are moving forward with the process of reorganization. co we wilinue to move forward.>> thank you for time. >> my pleasure, thank you. now for an update on the pandemic. coronavirus numbers keep climbing in california. there was more than 50,000 new infections thursday alone. while the death toll has climbed ab e 28,000 statewide. we get repoc ng hospitals were i was lookinfor space for critically ill patients. healthcare workers say they are

hausted. one supervisor called the situation a human disaster. is expected to grow more dryer. hundreds of thousas of doses of vaccine have been stuck in warehouses or in-transit. the governor acknowledged this week that the state needto do better. joining me now is dr. maldonado. thank you for joining us. you are in the field right now, tells about where you are and what's going on.>> i am in the outpatie treatment tent on the stanford campus seeing patients. >> this has been set up due to the virus. tell us viout the ac that is happening there.>> when we deveped our own diagnostic check test it was designed for emergency use we developed several tasks for people to

come in and be able to drive through and get tested. nths and made them into ple outpatient treatment centers for therapeutic trial. they are safer here for other patients.d keep them away from the main hospital. >> the numbers have been d goin up, we are hearing that we should expect another 15,000 hospitalizations in california in the next 10 days. the california hospital association says it's like standing on a beach and watching the tsunami approach. is that your sense as well, and what are you concerned about the next week or two weeks? >> frankly i saw -- this is my exact words. i saw a tsunami coming back in

october and november. i think wehave beenvery prepared here at stanford. i think the state has been warning people. the one group that has not preceded this tsunami is the numbers of people who don't believe that this is real. and willar masks and won't distance. i think the healthcare providers are quite aware of what's going on. we are seeinga little bit of a leveling off today, but we do not know what will happen in the nefew days. even if it levels off, we are leveling off at record high levels. is not great news here. they should not be the new normal. >> you are on the mmittee that's working with the cdc on the vaccine rollout. tell me alabouyour tion of the vecsey distribution in the states of our. >> the vecsey distribution is t part of the cdc. the distribution is very --

it's not a uniform approach. it happens at the fedel level eligible to the state. differen county health departments can make their ow decisions or arou the allegations. is a patchwork allocation scheme. that is just the way the healthcare system works the united states. >> there has been a slowdown in the distribution of vaccines throughout california e to logistical constraints. such as keeping the vaccine cold, and transporting it. can you tell us how that is playing ou >> wehave been doing a great job because we have all of those resources. we have been able to manage and transport the storage, the

handling and distribution quitel even that is an operational challenge, because we have never had to do this befo. you are layering on and developing a brand-new operational system on top of existing systems while you are dealing with the surge of patients coming into the spital. many of ose are not covid patients either. we are talking about the regular patient care responsibilities. it's not optimal. we are doing a good job all things considered. some areas do not havethe resources that a place like stanford might have. >> should they bring more people to help administer the vaccine? for example there are thousands of fight and available nursing students. should they getting to help? >> i really don't know what the needs are, i do think that a rapid needs assessment-- what

are the challenges that each county and local area are spacing. how do you respond to those needs? the needs might be different in different places. if you are in a rural area where there is a low-density population you need to get to the last mile. you may not need more backs and eaters. úyou may needa way to have people drive up and ccget es to people. i worked in developing countries where we have given vaccines to people who live in areas that have t been put on the map. though systems have developed over many years. it's very hard to do that rapidly. i think we are not used to dealing with a crisis like this in the first world. getting a sense of what e the needs locally, and addres those should be done very rapidly at the state level i think. >> coulyou tell me out the second doses.

how does a rolling out, and if those seem to be needed or if il theybe used to stretch the vaccine supply.>> the question about a second dose remains to be resolved. at e this time with the clinical trials were set up, they were set up to answer a specific question. at is, do two doses were compared to know des. i think at this time we should rolling out cond doses as quickly as we can, because we don't understand whether you need the second dose to boost the immunity that you get from fitht dose. what our concern is that the first dose may give you partl immunity or making the immunity that doesn't really last very long, so in effect if you miss out on the second doseor wait too long for the second dose it is possible, although we don't know that it may be like giving short-term are no immunity at all. we need to get better beinformation about thatre we start thinking about deferring or canling second doses altogether.

>> you teme more about this found and how you expect that n to impact caseboth regionally and globally?>> there is a number of variance. we know these viruses were will you take. what's important about what are seeing now is these variance are succumbing to what we call selective pressure. as the immune response -- as people get infected and there's immune response to viruses that don't get to infected with they succumb to the immune system. as viruses mutate they might survive because they were able to escape immunity. the concn will be over time there could be an accumulation of these variance. so farthey don't seem to be causing more disease. there are decent indications that they could be more infectious. they might be able toinfect human cells a little better

than the pre-variant constraints. we do need to keep an eye on d them. we n focus on the basics. that is masking, distancing. cleaning. keeping all of those guidelines in place. it will keep us from re-from infection with those variance athis time. the cdc issued a study moshowin transmission will be coming from asymptomatic individual. >> iawe appr your time. >> inc. you for making this an initiative that everyone should hear. unprecedented, unrivaled, unmatched d unparallel. edas a extremists stmed the

capital this week. in california the effort to recall governor newsom is growing under vecsey distributionelays. start the mob that descended this week, what went through your mind as we watched? >> i was shocked, but not surprised. they demonize onopposiarty of outright falsehoods about the selection. i think it was a scary moment because it wasn't attack onur democracy. it raises questions we have ou been asking the way black and brown people are treated it differently than people are when it comes to policing and security. >>did it feel surprising? >> it was shocking, but not

surprising given the rhetoric of the president and everything that hastranspired since charlottesville. is a human being, it was riining to see the nation's capital desecrated and trashed the way that itas. i found it to be infuriating. >> president trump is still in power for two weeks. democrats want to impeach him again. muchof the charges ing led by some of california's elective isleaders is going to be symbolic? >> an impeachment if it was sustained in th senate could prevent him from r i think it is important even if it is justymbolic. that we make those symbolic these are peopwho are trying to undermine the democratic will of the american people. that is not something you get to pass on becausyou only have 12 days left in office. >> we are hearing that trump may be oking at pardoning

himself, is that possible? >> it's unousted. he try it and it would go to court i'm sure. it would not resolve his problems in the states like new york where he is being investigated for tax fraud and other issues. i don't think that would solve his legal problems. that's really setting in, the reality that he is no longer going to have the privilege of executive protection. >> scott you are looking at the role california played. which split the senate. and gave, here the deciding vote. what did yosee whenit comes to california's involvement with georgia?>> in the relative short-termcalifornians you will the campaigns. with more than tens of millions of dollars in the past several weeks. it's been extraordinary. is also shown volunteers in georgia to help out. the more reason i spoke yesterday was for phillips he

has been working with abrams it was californians like steve phillips and allison who are working closely with amy. to make this happen. it is a -tstament to lom planning and focus.ha >>is the latest on the recall effort? as you talk about the competition that is shaping up for the governor's shift with san diego falconer.>> we do know that folks would like to recall newsom have until march to get their signatures. they say they are geing closer. they oppose the restrictions co d. he did launch a committee. he has been expected to challenge in 22. if they can get this in the

ballot did have the n organizationme to mount a real challenge to this governor? >> we had some good news come out of thetcalifornia bu today, tell us about that. >> the governor unveiled a 227 billion dollars spending plan and it was larg than expected. it was quite a large ween fall. mothere will be money putting into the rainy day fund. more money for k-12 education as well as higher education. vecsey distribution, immediate health or small businesses and individuals hurt by the recession. all all, california had a of. to be pleased by and proud given how many people are struggling and how many states are facing large deficits. >> anwe you so much for your insight and time.

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