>> what do you do when the president lies? then it's repeated. a million times. >> the critically acmed film about one woman's fight. >> i'm maria ressa. >> maria carries the torch ofm press freedoin a country held in thrall by a popullist president' >> it'going to be bloody. >> we demanded the government be held accountable. >> the charges ainst ressa were aimed at intimidating those who challenged duterte's rule. >> this is not the philippines i knew. and i have done no crime. >> stay tuned after the film for a discussi with maria ressa and the rector ramona diaz. in a special edition of amanpour and company. >> if you don't use your rights you will lose them.

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>>ng! (people talkg in background) >> you want to be somewhere within reaching distance, because i will come to you for... propaganda. yeah. >> what will you aske? pia, y(giggles)first strike. >> i'm assuming i'm going to ask you t what it was liget banned from the palace. >> okay, got it. >> rambo, you, of course, numbers. drug war, what's changed, right? >> okay. >> because it's on two fronts, right? you have the, people expect... people think that's the main accomplishment, so what did they really accomplish? >> okay, breaking it down. >> yes. >> okay.e.

>> fiv >>ello and welcome, i'm maria ressa. we are at the 2018 state of the nation address. use "rappler" team is there. >> rodrigo roa duterte, president of the republic of the philippines. (audience applauding) >> let me begin by putting ibluntly. the illegal drugs wa ll not be sidelined. instead, it will be as relentless iland chilling, if you asn the day it began.

your mine is human lives.hts. >> wow... wow. ♪ >> speaking filipino) >> ward-winning filipina journalist maria ressa, the founder of the independent news site "rappler," vocal critic of philippine president rodrigo dute >> maria ressa, a high-profile joualist in the philippines, she was named time magazine person of the year a high-pin 2018...alist >> maria ressa carries the torch of press freedom tin a country held hrall by a populist president. ♪

>> "rappler," since you are a, , a fake news outletthen... your articles are rife with innuendos d pregnant with falsity. tell me where is our lies, and i'll tell you where are yours.

♪ (horns honking, vehicles moving in distance) >> okay. fantastic! it's, like, let me focus you first on what's happening in the entire information ecosystem. it's dark and light, let me, let use that now, right? they're trying to actively form alternative news. and they've succeeded.ng trenews portal was a really good distribution. mocha is a really good distribution. that's why, all of a sudden, our society is so polarized, because that's what they're doing. this group just amplifies, pounds, but they never share any of the traditional news sites.

and the traditional news sites are so blind that they don't even see they're getting killed here, right? in this is fascin- it's a snapshot of our da information ecosystem (performing "buttons" by the pussycat dolls) >> i never planned to be in politics. when i supported then-mayor duterte, it was just volunty. we need an iron hand in dealing with crimins. the reach of mocha uson blog, 50 million people. (speaking filipino): i entered the government helping with the information ssemination of different government agencies

for social media. for a dancer like me, for an entertainer like me, to be appointed in malacañang, that's really something big. (speaking filipino): and last but not the least... (speaking filipino): "duterte: journey to the presidency." (speaking filipino): >> 1,164 share >> (speaking filipino): >> reached 233,860. ♪

(crowd cheering) >> so i take this as a god-given mission to become president duterte's right-hand man in his fcrht against drugs, inality, and corruptiond corr. >> he's the first chief implementer of the government's war on drugs.re after hirement, he was chosen to clean up the corrections bureau, also plagued wi illegal drug problems. ♪ (people talking inkground) ip >> (speaking filino): (clears throat

(men chuckling) (men laughing)

(men cheering and applaung) trust me, i have my own way of stopping you from doing your illegal acts-- trust me, ah. believe you me, i can stop you, ah. so... (speaking filipino): (men respond) >> gentleman's agreement, huh? >> yes, sir! >> gentleman's agreement. (speaking filipino): >> yes, sir! >> (speaking filipino) >> yes, sir! >> (speaking filipino): >> yes, sir! >> (speaking filipin: (man coughing) (speaking filipino): la (men cheer and a) ♪

>> we'ting now with davao mayor rody duterte.th k you for joining us. >> (speaking filipino): p >> can yase, you are the man of the hour, people wanting to know whether you're running for president, vice president, yes, no? where are you? >> i told you to avoid me. i'm telling the filipino people... (speaks lipino) it's gonna be bloody. >> yes, ofe, i, i must admit, i have, i have killed. (stammer three months early on, i, i killed, what... three people? >> the lev of poverty on the ground is phenomenal.

they've had other presidents and other governnts, and their lives have not gotten better. >> (speaking filipino): it is not for the people.>> uterte comes in, he off he offers revenge. "whoever did this to you, i will stop it." >> (speaking filipino): four months fr now... (speaking filipino): (crowd cheers and applauds) er >> rodrigo d and alan peter cayetano campaigned in cainta, one of the most... towns in rizal. i've covered duter for a long time. i covered duterte when he was still the mayor, who nobody really, who everybody thought was just a wild card. (speaking filipino): >> usually salted fishnn and eggs, side up. >> he had a reputation of being an iron-fisted mayor. he had a lot of nicknames,

like, people were calling him dirty harry, or the dirty harry of mindao. >> just because you're a journalist, you think you'resixempted from asstion? >> but, sir... >> (speaking filipino): it's all wrong. >> he may have been a politician, but he was an outsider politician, like, a small-time politician. so his messaging ouwas being someone cu from political elite circles in manila. "i'm an outsider, and i'm here to change everything." (crowd cheering and chanting) >> (speaking filipino): (crowd cheering and applauding) >> (performing pop campaign song) (song continues)

>> i, rodrigo roa duterte... >> president duterte, right after his inauguration, or stood on a pla and said, "if you're into drugs, "sometime u the next few years, ll make a mistake and i will kill you." it took three hours. the first body was found areew blocks away from we spoke. ♪ >> please, sir. >> tst time. tu >> a year-- ly, that's what i'm going to start off with. and i'll just say that, a year ago, this is what we, we talked then, and you've done everything you said. >> in the hindsight, did you really believe that... i had a good chance of making it? >> all of our surveys showed it. we had-- i'll show you all the... yeah.(

eaking filipino) >> we knew by february. nd >> by what sd... (speaking filipino) >> social media. >> it's a powerful thing. >> by february we knew. in 2016, "rappler" fought two levelsf impunity. the first was the drug war. the war on drugs became a war on the poor. ou we had one team that go out every night,ey thould come home with at least eight deadodies a night. the narrative of the government is that they fought back. these are extra-judicial killings or murder. >> (speaking filipino): you can criticize us to high heavens. (speaking filipino): inside you >> "impunitywain the drug war a continuing series.

we put faces and names ll to the people being . we demanded the government be held accountable. anyone on facebook who estioned the people who were being killed was automatically bashed. we began to gather data. we began to look at the accounts attacking all of media. we stumbled onto something-- disinformation networks. when you see the network that spreads i you can follow other networks, and then you can see its gwth. mid-september, i started writing. first, the weaponization of the internet. the seco piece was how facebook algorithms impact democracy. as soon as we released it, we got pounded. i was getting an average of 90 hate messages per hour. mocha uson blog, she attacked "rappler," said, "oh, 'rappler's' c.i.a." followed by another blogger, thinking pinoy,

who seeded the ideas that we're foreign-controlled. >> "rappler" is misrepresenting itself... >> (speaking filipino): >> it was the second state of the nation address. it comes out of president duterte's own mouth. >> "rappler."rc try to pthe identity, and you will end up american ownerships. you're supposed to be 100% fipi. >> of course, we were covering it live i automatically tweeted, "mr. president, you'rerong." i was told later on that offended him. what do you do en the president lies, then it's repeated a million times so people have no idea what the truth is? this set the stage. a week after the president did that,

we got our first subpoena. january 2018, the government trieto close "rappler." tried to revoke our license to operate. in a little more than a year, we faced 11 cases. (people talking in background) >> oh, hi, sir, sir, earlier in your speech, you said that the issu in the sec rulin against "rappler" is not an issue of press freedom. t at the same time during your speech, you w(speaking filipino):about the media and about "rappler." >> so what does that mean, sir? you say that this is not an attack on media, but you also have attacks on media in your own speech... >> let me give you an example. your ione of these days,es i'll file a plunder case.tions. but when i go plunder case, you will go to jail without the bail. >> 'cae the end goal is to actually make you doubt the facts.

>> (chanting): mocha! mocha! >> (speaking filipino): >> (speaking filipino): (drumming) (crowd cheers) (people talking in background) >> good morning, we're joined today by former philippine national police chief ronald bato dela rosa, who's now, of course, the bureau corrections chief, also now, as soon as you file your c.o.c.,

you'll be deemed resigned... >> yes. >> now, what made you decide to actually run for senator? >> uh... (speaking filipino): at the same time... (speaking filipino): >> but other peopl walso see it as t of the president to put loyal lieutenants in the senate. that's why supposedly he wants you there. (speaking filipino) loyal to the president, to protect his interests, not just h... agenda of governance. >> (speaking filipino): anybody who'd like to, to bring down the president... (speaking filipino): (crowd shouting) ♪

>> (speaking filipino): >> duterte! duterte! (crowd shouting and chanting) >> duterte! duterte! derte! ♪ >> (speaking filipino): >> your boss is already talking to us, no need for that. (cameras clicking) >> a prominent critic of plippine president rodrigo duterte has been arrested. maria ressa is c.e.o.... >> a warrant for a cyber-libel case was served past 5:00 p.m.p

inside "ler's" office in pasig city. >> press freedom advocates say the government's charges against her are retaliation al for her crit reporting of authorits in the philippines. >> (speaking filipino) >> we'll go, we'll go to nbi now. we'll go to the nbi, can you guys come? (people talking in background, cameras clicking) >> it's a shock, it's a shoc but we're going. ♪ (people talking in background) >> no further comment.

f >> (speakingilipino)us >> exce us, excuse us. (cameras clicking) >> they're running the clock. what do they think they can do by keeping movernight? >> can you go to the nbieam and ask them why they are not talki to us? >> we have until 9:00 to be able to post bail. without the right documents, we cannot post il, so they're... bl stumblinks to prevent... it'sit night in prison, a night here, but apparently the delay is on purpose. >> free maria ressa! >> demand press freedom! >> free maria ressa! >> demand press freedom! >> free maria ressa! >> demand press freedom! f (audio fades) e maria ressa! >> my stay last night at the nbi

really made me think about what this is all about, right? and for me, it's about two things: abuse of power and weaponization of the law. this i 't just about me and 's not just about "rappler." i'll be very transparent. (voice breaking): because i have done nothing... sorry. this case, the cyber-libel case,e thtional bureau of investigations' own lawyers threw it out. r but theyeversed their position, and the department of justice and the government prosecutors now are taking this. su the story which pposedly violated the cyber-libel laws published seven years ago, four months before the actual w we supposedly violated had even been enacted.e thapplying a law retroactively, right? (people talking in background)

>> internation journalists' organizations are saying this is an attacon the media. >> blaming the administration for it. >> (speakingilipino): >> your policy on critical media? >> (spilipino): >> thank you, thank you. >> (speaking filipino): it means nothing to me.♪ ♪ >> when the war on drugs started, a lot of people were dying. the government wasn't quick enough to show how many people were dying. how many people were gunned down in police operations. how many people were gunned down by vigilante-style kilrs. so there's this counting by the government. 4,500 gunned down within police operations. and humaesrights advocates mate the killings to be around 20,000, cluding the killings which were at least inspired

by the war on drugs of president duterte. >> tonight, we arepoollowing a team ocemen conducting a simultaneous anti-crime and law enforcement operationso eize people who are violating city ordinances, following the order of president rodrigo duterte to go after tambays. we will see how they execute the order of the president. (speaking filipino): og barking) >> (speaking filipino):

>> (speaking filipino): >> (speaking filipino): >> congratulations, sir. >> (speaking filipino): >> man: t alabong: >> man: (music playing) (audience applding) >> otso diretso candidate,an the sole wom in our lineup of nine candidates, samira gutoc coming in...,an (audience applauds and cheers) >> (eaking filipino): is a woman who stands without fear, without threat to her life, that she is willing to run alongside giants and along honorable men.

(marching band playing, man calling on microphone) ♪ otso diretso! ♪ otso diretso! >> morning! (speaking filipino) (laughs) (trump playing) it's a trial for our country, it's a trial for our democracy. there needs to be genuine opposition. the excuse that people say is, like, "we're tired we want results. "we want people who really fight drugs. we want peope to, to look at sreets." i understand that, of course, everyone wan that.

but you cann kill the young. you cannot kill youths. you cannot kill a man for the sake of, you know, like, cleaning up the streets. we cannot be judge and executioner at one time. (engine revving) f >> (speakingipino): (c wd cheers) (clears throat) ♪ what woulmai do without your mouth ♪

♪ drawing me in and you kicking me out ♪ot ♪y head spinning, noidding ♪ ♪ i can't pin you down ♪ what's going on in that beautiful mind ♪ ♪ i'm on your magical mystery ride♪ (speaking filipino): >> (calling out) i love you, bato! ♪ (thunder rumbling) >> we were in a place called cessna.

there's a murder. so, one body on the ground. sprawled, his eyes were open, he was dead.d ey were shooting, everyone was shooting,an the brothers showed up and they were screaming. (speaking filipino) (bleep) because he was dead. and... uh... the... we were all crowded, asking somo translate, from so i said, "(bleep) you."e i didn't mean "(bleep) you" to the guy, but the brothers reaeey were saying, "( you." and i remember that, i don't know why i remember that. but two seconds after that, we hear a wailing from the other side of the alley, and... i'm not sure they were words. the mother had discovered her n was dead. and in the narrowest alley that i had ever seen, there was a woman who was crawling along the wall of the shanties,

hanging onto grills, trying to pull herself to her son, because her legs wouldn't work.h she was trembling and she was screaming. and on top of all the screamg, there are journalists who weo screaming. ct "is your son an ad "how do you feel?" "what's his name?", "what's your name?", all of that. it was one of my first days. and i didn't know what to do. i didn't know if i was supposed to step in. if i was supposed to... i didn't know what i was supposed to do. so i just corded. and then the... the mother, whwas still screaming, heard the questions, and, being filipino, answered them. o, at a wail, y son is good. "no, hs a good boy, he's a good boy, he's a good boy, he's..."

i can't, i n't rget the scream. the story was called "execution at cessna." >> (speaking filipino): we submit to his authority. we respect the government, we respect the president. (speaking filipino): (laughs) ♪

>> hi, guys. "rappler" office.re at to prove to ms. ressa, that, you know, we're not trolls. that we are here to express our outrage. n>> 'cause re destroying our country and we're not going to sit here and let them do it. >> (speaking filipino): i and ths what we're going to say to ms. ressa and to the people at "raler." >> tell your boss she has no busine destroying the country. she's american. you take your orders from an american. how can you live with yourselves? (speaking filipino)

♪ >> this one, this is why, because that account posted, and then it was amplified by what's-his-name. by mocha. everything can bturned upside dow (woman murmurs) i just let facebook know. ♪ hi!st ju this morning, they said, yeah, for ysical protest at our office.a the worsthing, of course, is, the government amplified their call. well, we don't even know whether we can trust the lice to protect us.

our security will now be ramped up, one, two, six times. i also am going to deal with that. and i want you guys to be very are of your surroundings we've always been like that, anyway, and please report immediately if there is anything, um, that you see that is strange, right? they wanted to come to prove they weren't tlls, but then their very action is actually proving they're trolls, and then that is what incited all the comments. because it would, those threats would never have happened di if they nevethe facebook live outside our office.

>> i see. um, taking the devil's advocate position... >> please. >> they will argue that they're just exercising their right to free speech and they don't hdse any hold over theirupporters or... >> but they have hold over their timeline. they could have deleted it, they could have told their peop, "hey, that's not good. you shouldn't say things like that." or, "hey, that's illeg." the fact that they didn't and, in fact, even encouraged it, usfacebook took it down be this is inciting to hate and inciting to violence. that's the policy they violated. >> we'd likeo continue with our, our live... our live facebook. >> you know who's this for, right? >> who is it for? (laugh >> ♪ maria, maria (men speaking in video) >> all right... >> losers! (people talking in background) >> hello >> are you a ?

>>h, (bleep) you, ressa. >> (laughs): are you a troll? >> no, i'm not a troll, you look like a tree troll, though. hetch. >> yeah, tel tell her. we are at the devil's lair, people. okay, we'll continue later. >>nded.s >>y of it being shared? where's mocha? >> mocha wasn't ther >> okay. >> but she amplified long the call to... >> go to here. >> yeah. >> but the timing of it, why now? >> (mumbles) >> elections. (music playing) (singing) >> (speaking filipino):

(applauding) >> when i dropped out from med school, my parents were really hurt. (speaking filipino): one night... he called me on the phon (speaking filipino): "i love yo.. no matter what." (speaking filipino): finally he's accepted the path that i chose.

so i went to bedery happy. the next day, we got a call, he's dead. shot six times. he was assassinated. (speaking filipino) riding in tandem. because he was a judge. and he was handing a mayoral electoral protest. so it was political. (speaking filipino): there are criminals pretending to be politicians. (speaking filipino): ♪ >> violence. and you say this, um, you know, violence is okay. >>iolence is my strength. >> is it necessary, to lead? >> there is a need because there's a war. and with that kind of problem in my hands now,

i tell you, maria,un l i see the last pusher out of the street, until the last drug lord is killed, this campaign will continue to the very last day of my term. >> is it important that people be afraid of you? fear? >> yes.>> ut mr. president, as president, you now also defend the constitution. >> yes. >> and so, again, this, this is a contradiction from our last interview. you break the law, you threaten to break the law. you said you had kille a y you told me that, and yet you now have the task of keeping the rule of law, and you said you would do that also-- how do you...? >> because the rule of law, there must be fear. >> thank you for having me. >> we are so honored. >> it's about time. yo no, i mean-- and thank for the statement, i saw you got trolled. >> right away! >> you got trolled there! >> and we had a bomb threat yesterday.

so that's a good sign. (laughs) (audience applauding >> at a time when our basic rightsco are nstantly being threatened, human lives are being disregarded, and our freedoms are under attack, maria ressa's resilience has become revolutionary. in our moments of doubt, allow us to draw strength a(audience applauds). >> (speaks filipino) myrrest doesn't hurt me. because it only makes me more resolute. because i see firsthand how the law is bent to the point that is broken. what we're seeing is death by a thousand ts of our democracy, and it is done... then think about the bleeding, right? little cuts. little cuts to the body politic,

to the body of philippine democracy. and when you have enough of these cuts, you are so weakened that you will die. we at "rappler," i've said this, it's been a year now since i've said this. we will not duck, we will not hide. will hold the line-- join us. (audience applauds and cheers) (live music playing, crowd cheering) (man rapping) >> (speaking filipino):

(cheering and applauding) (cheering) (speaking filipino): (crowd laughing) (crowd laughing and cheering) (crowd laughing)

(crowd laughing) (people shouting, music playing) >> (speaking filipino):

(cheering and applauding) (cheering and applauding) ♪ the trolls, they tate me because i atta president. it's the pousident, he's talking his penis, i mean, isn't that something to be, like, mindful about? 's, like, appalling. s 's appalling to have thind of language, so we cannot ave this six-year esidency or administration hijack all the values that we fought for, that we cherish.

we cannot. >> what do you know about bong go intervening? >> sir, as far as we're concerned, we've already addressed the issue of fairness on that article-- can you just answer, please, the question? >> (eaking filipino): just because you have the power of, what, press freedom? you are a filipino who is allowed to abuse our country. and you are an active participant of that. (speaking filipino): in the name of the holy grail of press freedom. (speaking filipino): young, young reporter,l they w allowed to criticize us, but you'll go to jail for your crimes.

>> (speaking filipino): >> ranada: >> man: >> ranada: duterte banned me from malacañang because he was "annoyed by our reporting." it hurts, that's really been demoralizing. i mean, i'm a reporter, i want access. >> so, why should you care about what happens in the philippines? foeone, we spend the most t on the internet. more than ten hours a day. we spend the most time on soand as we out,bally.un lies laced w fh anger and hate spretest. when you only look at content, it's a whac-a-mole game. i want to figure out what the lie is,

then look at the network that spreads the lies. that's the nervous system. we started looking at one account that was attacking, "all journalists are corrupt." one account that had 25 followers. they were all following each other. we fact-checked every single item. these were all fake accounts. we began to count and found that 26 fake accounts careinfluence up to million other accounts. three million.in i the first attacks, this word "presstitutes," you can even track this word. mocha uson starts to poparize "presstitutes," thinking pinoy picks it up, then it's repeated a million times. to make you distrust institutions, shift the way you think. in may 2017, wdid a story on the transcriptmp of t call with president duterte. "'rappler' just made the philippines a legitimatearget k

of norean nuclear missiles." it's laughable, but people believe it. itumped to, "i can smell an arrest and possible closure of rappler.com." then from there, we go to sexualized aacks. fuel misogyny-- women are a favote easy target. #arrestmariaressa. it didn't trend, and that's probably why it took them another two years to actually arrest me. that was the end goal. no >> court is in session. (gavel bangs) (people talking in background) (cameras clicking) >> we can go that way?er (c clicking, reporters clamoring) i knowesany of you received releases

that this is a private citizen at please understand tht is the department of justice that is actually going against... this is the philippine government. it's the philippine government that is filing this. the department of justice prosecors are there. this is your tax pesos at work. thank you. ♪ i(woman speaking ackground) (woman speaking filipino): are you ready? let's all welcome cha uson! >> (speaking filipino):

hip-hip! >> (faintly): hooray. >> hip-hip! >> hooray. >> (speaking filipino): hip-hip! >> hooray. hip-hip! >> hooray. >> (speaking filipino): (cheers and applause) rt du >> (chanting weakly): duterte! duterte! (woman speaking in background) i really messed up. because i didn't have a messagee i ha my message, but i wasn't able to focus on the message. i was just there to entertain. (laughs) so i've learned my lesson. ♪ >> okay, you guys keep eating!! >> (over phone): o >> i'm taking you ou dad. (laughs) i think we should just try to find a weekend and do a beach. >> yes, a beach. >> hold on, let me look at my calendar.

there's a human rights awards thing. and then fcc thing. >> oh, just another award. >> and then i go to new york. and en i'm in new york until the 24th, heand i come home on5th, saturday night, though, at, like, :00 at night. we could do-- oh, no, i can't. because after saturday night, then i have sunday, monday, tuesday, wednesday in manila. then i leave at, like, 11:30 at night on thursday for glasgow. hi >> that's,is impossible. (laughs) >> unless we do... unless we do sunday-monday. we could do sunday-monday. sunday the 26th 27th. then i'm in geneva on the third. o am i happy t leaving? it's jusa non-stop marathon.

i'm upset one court put a half a milliopeso bond on top. now i'm almost up at three million pesos that the government has asked for, for me to be free, right? because if i didn't do that, i'd lose mconstitutional right to travel. (music playing in background) ong continues) >> mayor inday sara duterte!la (music pying)

(man speaking filipino) ng >> (speailipino): and they're asking for an explanation. >> (speaking filipino): ♪ (people talking in background)

>> maria ressa, executive editor and c.o. of "rappler," with matt thompson, the editor-in-chie of the center for investigative reporting. (audience cheers and applauds) >> good mornin i can tell you that countless edors across the country are asking the question, "what would maria ressa do?" >> that's scary. (both laugh) >> you've gotten to see a democracy slide into increasing authoritarian present. f what lessons do you ham that experience, th from witnessing that we should be really attentive to, sitting here in washington, dc? >> i think first is, what hapns in america to happenhe rest of the world. e i mean, in order to sois, you have to act. and i'll tell you two reasons, right?er just earhis month, i spent time with the cambridge analytica whistleblower,

christopher wylie. the whistleblower said they tested the tactics ofow to manipulate you in our countries.th and in countries in the global south. and the reason why he said that was because our, we don't, we don't have strong governments. they can get away with impunity, and then if it worked in our countries, then they would, his word was, "port" it over to you. so the first step is, something horrific has i thalready happened.alize that and that we are at this existential moment where, if nothing significant is done, journalism is only the first part. journalism, and democracy as we know it, is dead. we're in your dystopian future. i think the last part i forgot to say isa that d plutonium, right? we go back to nuclear war. >> yeah. .>> that's the only thi >> (responds)

>> this was where we went to elementary school... and walnut street. i never rely knew where me was. my parents we both filipinos. my real father died when i was a year old. my mom went to the states, so iuess like an overseas filipino worker. my stepfather, my dad, now, they camback and got us. my primary language is tagog. so when i landed in new jersey, i had to learn how to speak english. you try to leave behind being brown. you try to understand what you're walking into. and the best way i couldeal with that was, you work really, really hard. p 150%, itving that i belong.

you have to prove you deserve it. what can you say, right? y what can say? (laughs) >> wre are we going? (people talking in background) >> we'll go, i think we'll go into... right? well, i would like to post bail, but i've been served a warrant. li >> a prominent phiines journalist, maria ressa, on has been arrested fraud charges. last month, ms. ressa, the executive editor of a news website, "rappler," was arrestin over an alleged rnet libel case. >> prosecutors filed the latest charges against her

while ressa was on a trip in the u.s. media watchdogs say the charges against ressa were aimed at intimidating those who challenge duterte's rule and his war on drugs. >> right now, she's undergoing booking now. and after this... (murmuring) >> so there are... charges, one for anti-dummy, one for securities and regulation code. so it, the warrant is for the anti-dummy issued yesterday. (people clamoring)

(c door shuts) (police rens chirping) >> the seventh time i've posted bail. the second time i've b. it's obviously clear i am not a travel risk, right? 'cause i came home. even after the new charges were laid out and the arrest warrant was issued. this is not the philippines i knew. this is not the philippines i voluntarily chose as my home country. and it's shocking thig after a 14-hour , you're, you know--ri and i have done no. i'm certainly not a flight risk,

but i'm greeted by police who will take me. lectric bell ringing) >> (spking filipino) go in the back, go in the back, in the back. (object slamming) >> did i say too much? oh, my god! (laughs) in >> (speaking filipo): >> ressa: josethe people power be exrevolt happened. not a shot was fired and a government was changed. as a kid just coming out of scol and feeling the exuberance of that, i wanted to come back to the philippines. ct this country was aely creating

what the future was going to look like. we were building institions. i felt, 20 years later, the ph ippines was going to be an. i worked at cnn, i ran the manila bureau for almost a decade, and in 1995, i opened the jakarta bureau. i was there until 2005. we hadovered every single country in southeast asi as ty trthsitioned from auitarian one-man rule to democracy-- that was incredible. i decided i would make the philippines my home. (music playing, man speaking on truck speakers) (car horn honking)

g) (child shout (music, horn continue) ♪ lamoring) >> you would expect a government totose subtle means tifle dissent. you do nect a government to outright say, "i am banning you," an.then start implementing

you're actually... fi standing in the line o, that's what we call it. we always say that the line fire is a place of honor. oi and that's what you're right now for your profession, especially under these circumstances. this is not one of those simple cases. if i have a problem already, finding lawyers to take it on, then you know how different your case is. they want you to hide. so this is actually the reverse what they want. >> (cheers softly) >> they want the palace to be able to say, "oh, this is only about pia, this... rat who keeps on pestering the president with hard questions." yeah? they can't say that now because apparently it's not just about pia. ♪

>> (speang filipino): we are journalists. physical presence in a newsworthy event is integral to our work. asking officials questions, face-to-face, is integral to our work. usmalacañang's ban prevent from doing our jobs. press freedom, free speech, due process, and equal botection are guarantethe constitution. we're asking theupreme court to affirm these fundamental righ. (cheering and applauding) >> (speaking filipino):

♪ >> (sighs): this is just insane. the palace is now coming out with a press release saying that, confirming thei. oust duterte coup pl

i mean, how could you even... >> who briefed you about the matrix? >> (speaking filipino): >> so the president toldou... >> pressecretary: >> reporter: >> press secretary: >> reporter 2: ss >> pecretary: >> repter 2: >> press secretary:

>> reporter 1: >> they're laying the groundwork for a non-bailable charge. it's, like, it's fantasy. >> oh, ith going to show you gown, maria, come here. i'll show you. can you see it? so this is a nice material. >> oh, i'm not going to wear that. . >> maria, try it fir >> no, no, no... >> it's a gown, my gosh, come on... >> no, no, no... >> look, oh, my god, it's going to be so beautiful. >> no, number one, number two, it's also long >> it's okay, you can pick it up. t me see what you... t me see... >> there's not enough time to have it fixed, anyw. >> you don't gett fixed, that's the thing.us theyflow. >> what? >> seriously, let me see what you got. ou i think you try it on.

you think she should try it on? i think you should try it on. >> i'll trip on it. (laughs) y >> maria, wh have it on... >> what'll happen? and then? >> when you have it on and you're walking, you ft it. >> (laughs): and then you trip on it. >> a l then, no, when yt it, then you can walk with your loafers up this way... >> (lahs): no. >> yes. >> no, look.>> aria, why don't you try first? you don't even know, it's so beautiful. you have a great shape for it. >> you can wr it. >> no, i'm not, this is, this is a small. >> i'll be cold. i'll be cold, 'cause i want, like, a jacket. >> it's 75 degrees tomorrow.t' >>not 75 degrees tomorrow. >> yes, it is! >> and this does itch my neck. >> let msee what you're weari >> here. >> then i guess we have to go to rent the runway now >> i told you i brought two. >> (laughs): i've seen you inhat. >> i know you've seen this, but i haven't worn it since like, a long time ago, . it works! >> do you even want to see or do you care? > i don't want... ecause the shoe

makes the outfit. >> (laughs): these shoes e okay. >> check this out. >> ah... no. mary jane, i can't wear heels. >> you can wear heels, that would be, like, awesome. look at it. >> no thanks. >> that way when you-- maria ressa... (both laughing) that's why this shorter. this is like a flat. >> no, n no. i don't wear those. >> maria, this'll be so nice. you know i've never worn things like that. >> go out of the box. >> no thanks. >> we're 50s now. >> no thanks. >> we're no longer safe. (laughs) >> she and i were born in the philippines, but we made different choices. starti with the place we call home. for mary jane, home is here in nework. i choose my home in manila, the philippines. for better or worse, i hope not... (chuckles)

it's ironic that even though our choices are different, our two nations now have thsame type of leaders. macho, populist, sexist at best, misogynistic at worst. they both use anger and fear to divide and conquer. they've created a politics of hate. we need to put hope and love, nd but i'm going to so schmaltzy. it's not with hate, we hold the line.d love is that too much? >> no. >> is it cor >> mar, it has to be yours, it's you. >> shut up-a you face, let's go, let's go. >> what'you say, check my face? >> i said shut up-a you face. (laughs) (laughs): we stupidly believe goodness wins over evil.

may the force be with you. (laughs) are you really going >> are yoto say that?ay that? >> (laughing): no. >> oh, my god. (people talking in background) >> s maria ressa. (cheering and applauding) >> ladies and gentlemen, please welcome journalist and "rappler" c.e.o. maria ress (cheering and applauding >> what an increble om ll of people. i mean, the energy from th mother of dragon to nancy pelosi, i, it is... i don't know what to do with it. (laughs) it's a completely chaotic time where technology has heuted make facts dile, ru eroded, and crippled trust. ♪ >> at the momentea it's incredibly

for governments to get away with this kind of behavior. that why they're using trials, mbecause it gives tway to silence dissent and yet have a veil of legitimacy. ng you know, one of the t i take away from today having heard people who were behind bars speak out is, you know, apathy is the enemy, and we need people to be angry and to care, and if you go to trialwatch.orgl you wi see a "get involved" button. and that doesn't mean send money, it actually means tell us about trials that you're worried about. it means volunteer to be a monitor.le soe help us make this a success. >> yeah, i would also say, just, my takeaway from today, h all these panels, and we were with president nasheed, who spent time in jail for telling the trutand mo, who also spent time in jail for telling the truth. and jason rezaian, you k spent time in jail for telling the truth. maria is, um, where is she? oh, there maria is.

is going back to the philippines, she's been arrested twice in the last five weeks. um, the rest of you are out. maria is about to risk going back, and she's going back because she believes th shining a light on crime,in g a light in general, is the best and mostp, and she won't be afraid. i'm afraid for her. and all of us re are so proud of the, your ability to shine a light. and we're all going to do everything we can m e su it stays loud for you. (all applauding) >> (sorry about that.: u. (laughs)ay, thank you again.

>> r>>ch out anytime. i'll do it through david. is that all right? >> yes, no, he should give you my direct eml address. >> oh, y gh, sure. >> or i'e it to you. let me... how about on here? can you write it on there? thank you. i going to get going. >> yes, thank you. i'll write you and i'll answer e questions you ask. >> do, and, look, whichever way is most helpful to you. >> yeah... thank you. thanks so much. too many things happening. have you heard about this? >> yeah. >> this happened this week. so the palace released a matrix of coup plotters. and it includes my organization, as well as other independent news groups. >> and you? >> and me. and now the philippine national police say

they will investigate the journalists on that list. do i have more support outside than inside the philippines? i think we have a lot of support in the philippines. but i think anyone who stands up has a lot to lose. our country needs the mission of journalism even more today th at any other time. (birds chirping) >> it's a big irony on my part to be a religious person, and at the samme waging the war on drugs that resulted to deaths of thousands. the anti-government forces, you can never satisfthem. everything that the government does is... wrong for them. so... i n't care about them. i care about the ordinary people

who have been suffering from this drug menace. these ordinaryiteople say, "sir, okay, "thank you for what you're doing. "our streets now are safer. "our communities are a lot safer. "we can have, we cil jt let our chen walk "going to the school "without being molested by the ug personalities, by the drug addicts, by the drug pushers." >> what i saw out on the streets never really escaped me, it never really left me. i still remember vividly how bodies are left in the streets and how families are traumatized. and the trauma of the family isn't just theirs. they also, it also to some extent, gets passed on to me.

and remember how they feel, the feeling of losing meone so brutall it affected me, and sometimes it also appears in my dreams. (people talking in background) >> i'm terrified daily, because i'm so close to the ground. e concern isn't getting. it'setting hit from below. it's not that the person will name me, but that a story i d wrong, or a person i shouldn't have named would die because of what i did. and half of me is a journalist who was the story. and the other half is, i do not want to be party to anything like this. it sort of leaks into every part of your life, the paranoia.

sorry. (sniffles) see, maria says a lot, she doesn't scare easily. i do. >> i can't not go back. i mean, that sounds really... it'sasy to say it, but i actually did think about this. there' i have to return, and part of it is also regardless of what happens, then, you know, chronicling at does happen.

(music playing over plane intercom) thank you, thank you. that's good. no... none! we're okay, we're good. (chuckles) that's where they picked up before. (people talkg in background) >> ladies and gentlemen, let us welcome miss pia ranada. >> (applaung) >> it's quite challenging to be a journast now. we feel like we're criminals for being journalists. okay, next... but we're fighting it. other "rappler" reporters and i went to preme court, and we filed a petition asking the supreme court to lift the ban.

this is our first offensive against the government. because previously, we've always just been at the receiving end of these againlegal cases.nment. and i'm just so proud of my company, that despite all of our attacks... (voice breaking): all of the legal cases against us, they still... sorry... they still muster the resources and the willpower to file a case on our behalf. and you know, you, li you don't have a bos that every day that... it takes a certain kind of boss to stand up against a greater power when they're already themselves on the receiving end of so many attacks. so thank you, maria,th anrest of "rappler," for standing up for us. and, we know, we're just praying... (authank you.lauding) (pulsing music playing)

>> (rapping) (cheering and applauding) >> (speaking filipino) do not do drugs, be(speaking filipino):u. (applause) you know it's not an easy job, president. you have contend with this son of a bitch, and with the bitch in media.

>> my estion is, the victims are the 27,000 victimof ejk, the marginalized fipinos, the drug runners, and of course the media. but how about the rest of us? do we feel vicms? i myself, i don't feel a victim in fact,tirement pay went up. (chuckles) in fact, we feel safe. what are you going to do abo making us feel also victims? we d't buy drugs. >> i'll quote to you one of the most famous holocaust poems of all time. "first they came for the socialists "and i did not speak out. "bause i was not a socialist. e "then they came for ade unionists. "and i did not speak out because i was not a trade unionist. fo "then they camthe jews. "and i didwaot speak out because not a jew.

"then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me." this was a poem by martin niemöller. and the "enquirer" pushed it down to e sentence for today. "first they came for the journalists. we don't know what happened after that." ♪ (cheers and applause) >> i have been appointed as counsel for another award-winning journalist, maria ressa. ms. ressa was one of four journalists named as "time" magazine's person of the year for another award-winning journalist, maria ressa. for what "time" calledis "great in pursuit of greater truth." the government's response has been to arrest her that expose her to a maximumil sentence of 63 years in prison.

>> colleen was asking if we've had to make adjustments gbased on what's happen with you and... et your s and are we safe, she actually asked you know, "are you guys safe?" and i think that your friends didn't even realize how... how dangerous it is for you. >> it's all relative. >> relative, and funny that you say it that way, because i did tell her you dismiss... >> i's not dismissing it, ust done. we dealt with it, we know what can happen. and i'm okay with it. and... we just...ve >> well,that resignation. you know, that. look, i know you don't want to worry mom and dad, or the siblings ... >> because no one else really needs to know, right?

>> that your life is in danger? >> all we need to know is just we're doing our work, that's... it's not that it's anyone's, anyone says, right? 're not different from , except a little bit more (laughs) ugh... this year when, at the trialwatch, s jason rezaian who ke in prison for 500 something days, and then mohamed fahmy was in egypt. >> mhmm. >> and he was in prisonfo nearly 348 days. and so that was like the first time where i really had to figure out, okay, i haven't... s? am i okay with t if this happens, can i deal with it? and it took me a little bit, but i can deal with it. and so we keep goingnd, argh, i forgot this!bu mmer... shucks. how could i forget it? >> it's a very real possibility. >> hmm... your actions, at i do will deteine how real it is.

i mean, intent is always there. and i think part of what will make us, give us a better defense is if we're not afraid. because the first factor t. d you shouldn't be afraid. and if i'm not afraid, i'll be a much better... um, i'll actually prepare better for the worst case if i'm not afraid. and the only way to not be afraid is to understand the worst-case scenario and embrace it. >> i mean, you're prepared to go to jail? are you prepared to... >> look, the point is i never want to get there. >> i don't want to see you becoming a martyr in all of this.hi >>is a stupid conversation. i don't like this. i think you're talking about realit >> no, but i've already done this. i've dealt with it... >> not with me. >> i know, but you don't need to deal with it. de and you shouldn' with it. >> well, that's not fair. >> oh...

>> why are you crying? i >> becau scared for you. but you shouldn't. we're, we're ready. (crowd chanting) wi >> w be asking general bato dela rosa where are we on the war on drugs? can you give us your assessment? >> (speaking filipino) sp >>king filipino) your war on drugs has failed. (bell rings) (cheers and applause) >> (speaking filipino) >> moderator:

>> a reminplr to the audience, se behave. please show respect to all the candidates.k thu very much. >> the big problem is (speaking filipino) >> (speaking filipino) >> if u wage a war on drugs, you cannot be selective in the implementation of justice. (speaking filipino) (cheers and applause) >> sir, very calmly. >> (speaking filipino) (cheers and applause) >> time's up, sir. (speaking filipino) >> it will become a narco state. >> it's not the pnp's job totoill people, it irotect the people. there is overstretch of power

en journalists are arrested. tc there is an overstreh of power when local governments are afraid to host the otso diretso in their locations. there is an overstretch of power when we do not question his rape jokes tand statements against women.er (cheers and applause) silence, silence of the public means there is an overstretch too much power by our executive, the president. ♪ >> we are in the last few days and i asked jodez how she was doing. u yoow what she said? here, she has to tell you, i said, "jodez, how e you?" >> i'm enjoying the last days of democracy. (laughter, groans) >> (speang filipino) (laughs) i am enjoying the last days of democracy... all right. we still think there is hope.

do we not? (laughter) look, (speaks filipino) promise, it could be surprising. (chuckles) ♪ (music playing faintly) (door chimes) we have 61.8 million registered voters. they're going to the polls for 12 hours to choose more than 18,000 elected potions.

right up top, 12 members of the senate. 12 senators are going in. >> number 83... (people talking in background) >> the senate hopeful, bato dela rosa has actually voted. this is pia's oto of him voting. >> tfor instancauses, i don't knowotso diretso, right?ion,, so uh... >> right. in davao, the duterte children set to sweep local elections, that doesn't seem like too much of a surprise, right? >> vote buying as well as obstruction of justice. these e questions that we are go. >> and he is set to consolidate his power. >> you know, that's why the senate race is so important ilbecause that we'll see if we can, actually balance what the president is doing. the senate is the laststandingy in terms of voting for what president duterte wants...

wait, guys, i have a hearing tomorrow. ah, arraignment. (people talking in background) and the headline, "opposition bets fail to get in the magic 12." ) (pop music playing

president duterte is president. the institution has morphed. the man hasn't changed, the legislature, the executive, the judiciary, the checks and balances, well, they're bending to the man. so there we go. (people talking in background) 2019 was a difficult year, right? i never had any doubt that "rappler" had my back. and i hope you guys all know, i think our nation hasur back. you can't fight monsters by becoming monsters.

i'm quoting bo. and what prevents us from becoming msters is one word. it starts with l. (crowd, together) >> love! i ove you guys! (cheering) ♪ >> i'm here at the manila regional trial court,er a branch court has just convicted maria ressa over cyber-libel charges. sentence, up to six years. >> we are meant to be a utionary tale. we are meant to makeou afraid, right? so i appeal again. don't be afraid. because if you don't usyour rights, you will lose them. ♪

♪ ii fall i stand up, k these walls i rise up ♪ ♪ even alen i lose it all ys got my eyes up ♪ praying i'mma downfall but i'll never give up ♪ ♪ a thousand cuts won't be enough ♪ ♪ to keep my fists in these cuf ♪ ♪ and i'm never breaking down with the odds against me ♪ ♪ brown girl, gold crown with the gods within me ♪ ♪ i was the flower that bloomed in the backroom ♪ ♪ flowsike monsoons from the womb and the right moves ♪ ♪ ruins that resume my roots that lie soon ♪ ♪ pray to many moons that my ruins would not bloom ♪ where we from death looms so we hum with these tunes ♪ ♪ and h e it sparks light like a night in mid-june ♪ ♪ my heart's consumed by hate here ♪ ♪ it's harder when you live fear ♪ ♪ how can you see clear when you don't see you in the mirror? ♪ ♪th i lost too many peers seem to disappear ♪ ♪ but they living through these words that i putting here ♪ ♪ so tell me you'll remember me ♪ ♪ i'm here to blow thlegacy ♪ i got the ground moving under me ♪ ♪ a thousand cuts ain't never stopping me ♪ ♪ and that's why i'm never giving up ♪ ♪ where i am orhere i'm standing up ♪ ♪ and i ain't never need no ounce of luck ♪

♪ to understand myself 'cause that's enough ♪ ♪ yeah that's enough ♪ i can live a thousand cuts ♪ i can live a thousand cuts ♪ i can live a thousand cuts ♪ and live a life that's covering up ♪ nd i swear i'm never giving up ♪ ♪ who i am, or where i'm standing up ♪'t ♪ and i aver need no ounce of luck ♪ ♪ to understand myself 'cause that's enough ♪ ♪ yeah, that's enough ♪ i can live a thousa cuts ♪ i can live a thousand cuts ♪ i can live a thousand cuts ♪ andive a life that's covering up ♪♪ ♪ ♪ i can live a thousand cut♪ ♪ if i fall, i stand up, break these lls, i rise up ♪ ♪ even when i lose it all i always got my eyes up ♪ ♪ they praying i'mma downfall but i'll never give up ♪ ♪ a thousand cutswon't be e♪ ♪ to keep my fists in these cuffs ♪

>> i'm christiane amanpour in london. thank you for joining us for this special "frontlin/ "amanpour and company" collaboration. the film that you've jt seen, "a thousand cuts," is a searing look at the threats posed to mocratic values and to t journalists who are fighting to much has happened filming concluded in 2019. so joining me now is director ramona diaz and maa ressa, the c.e.o. of rappler. welcome, both you, to the program. maria, you're an old and longstanding colleague of mine from your ys and years at cnn. ramona, good to have you here. let me just ask you, maria, you know, you're not known as a sort of a cult-of-personality journalist. how diit feel for you to have yourself followed and for you to be the, the center character in this story on film now? in>> difficult at the begi until i realized that my rightse . my rights were being abused and that i needed to snd up for myself. so a lot of things happened

a shift in thinking from our old way thinking of journalism, which is to take yourself out of the picture. i was in it, and then the seconn was, what do i do to protect my rights? that's also unfamili >> okay, so that's really interesting. let'bring ramona in. ramona, i wonder whether you also feel potentially a bit of that burden and responsibility, that putting out maria's story and the story of rappler is also telling the world aning the world on notice that we have her back. whatever happens to her will not happen in darkss or in silence. >> hi, christiane. thanks for having us. um, i always feel the burden of responsibility because i am a filipina american. i film a lot of filipino storie sically what i do is i unpack or decode what's happening in the phili to the rest of the world. so i always feel that anyway.o but more, you know, "a

thousand cuts," because it was life unfolding before the lens. i had no idea where it was going to go, but neither did maria. so that was sort of this jointat expln, jointourney. but you do, you feel it. you, you know it's happening on the ground, and you hat you are also... i also had, like, a first role to histo in a wa like i always do, but more so with "a thousand cuts." >> you know what, it's really interesting that you identy for everybody as filipino american. becaus also, you are, as well, maria. and i guess it must be harder to be a, you know, a reside of the country that you're reporting on so bravely and, you know, in a form of sort of opposition.a, maou, since this film was completed, are appealing what was, what is known as a cyber libel conviction. you have several other casesai pending t you. you were denied your, your request to leave the philippines to visit your mother in the

united states and your relatives. telle where your legal statu standsight now. >> uh, ongoing. i mean, the court cases continue there are eight when t film was going on, and just on november 27, iad to post bail for a ninth case. so it's a new cybel nal case. this time for postina screen grab of a newspaper article. tweeng it. so now i'm facing another charge. nine criminacases. where is it going to go? um, christiane, you know, it's... i just keep doing my job, and i put one foot in front of the other, and i know the, the way this will play out will depend on how well i do my job now. m ia, an interview several years ago, when duterte wwas still mayor, before president, he admitted to you that he had killed.

i mean, it was quite startling. anyou are at his throat no for what you call, and what many in the international community call, extra-judicial killings. when he made that statement to you, then, what was going through your mind? >> shock, but disbelief. and then, you know, as a, as a reporter asking e questions, just...li kind o watching a car crash, right? you can't believe that you weret looking s and listening to it, uh... refreshing in a weird way. uhbut of course, after fou years of this, a we see thisda ever we live through the kind of impunity, um, that you've seen in the film, and it gets worse, so we know what's at stake. ani guess... told you, you know, i feel like i'm fighting for my rights. that's only the first part. i feel like, um, we have to hold

the line, because if we don't, uh, our democry will fundamentally change. it will... it's dying in front of our eyes. it's... the crash happened in plain view. so can we resuscitate it? cawe uphold our rights? responsibility.t of and i guess that's part of the reason the fight is worth it. >> and i guess... as you say, your democracy looks like it's dying in front of your eyes. that's the, that the point of using the title "a thousand cuts." each cut is another cut into the, into the muscle and theem brain ofracy. n , ramona, i know you don't talk about trumpis. and, of course, trump is moving on into the sunset as we speak i right now, bhas been a peri of years when democracies, even in the western world, have been under threat. and i found it really fascinating how you found twoin haracters who were very

passionate duterte supporters and who... you know, they were, they were lobbying for him a they didn't seem to equate the risk to their democracy, or they, or they equated it as him, him upholding it. >>h, definitely. i mean, they really bought into it, but i don't think... you know, for people like ean generamocha, they have to believe in something good,ri t? they have to believe that what they're doing is good for the country, and because is... and that's why i really, i thought it was important to have them in the film, because no one thinks of themselves as anti-heroe one thinks of themselves as the ones that will destroy democrac so they think of it as the opposite, as the, the ones who will uphold democracy. and i, i just, i, i fod them fascining, especiay, i think, with the general. he was both, uh, he's... he's alsa jester, like, he

does karaoke, he sings. but he's also menacing, because underneath all that joking, you. know, is, like " he says,ll, if you don't clap for me, you're a drug dealer," right? there's always that threat. and i thought that contradiction in batwas what, what was, what was very interesting. an of course, mocha. obviously, i knew she had a personal story she, she couldn't have had. everyone has a personal story. i wanted to know what it was for her that kept her very loyal to terte, right? she put, iean, she had considerable following on social medi and she put all that, u you know, to campaign. she, to support the president in the beginning, she was one of e first ones, and he paid her handsomely for it by, by offering her a spot in the administration. and, and, of course, she has her personal history. her father was a judge who was assassinated. so she saw duterte as someone who would, um, you know, avenge her father, her father's death,

because she felt like no one ever did. >> and it's also interesting, because one ofaria's investigative reporters,uo she isd in there, patricia evangelista, who's saying about duterte's popularity during that campaign, "he offers not just change, he offers revenge." i do think it's incredibly interesting caseistory in what's kind of become known as the, almost the victimhood of politics. everybody is a victim. everybody's looking for their savior, and everybody, you kw, adsts the truth or facts to suitheir narrative. maria, talk to me about that desire for revenge among people. >> t's the haves versus have- nots, right? i mean, there's...n the gap betwe rich and the poor in the philippines, for example, has always been large. and is is the decades of liberal democracy that hasn't trickled down far enough. and of what president duterte appeals to.

>> you know, the philippines is unusual, in terms of, it offers one six-year presidential term, not a re-election. you think that duterte, frodutm everything you've seen and everythinghat he's shown himself to be, will step down after the six-year term? he's got a couple of years left, at least. >> i mean, what we've seen during the pandemic, we've hadck the longest wn, right? we still haven'teally come out of the first one. and during this time period, the duterte administration p consolidater. a lot of power. shut down the largest broadcaster, lots ofttacks against the press, and they are gearing up for presidential elections. so even though it may not president duterte running, his proxies are all in place. uh, candidates. his daughter is a potential candidate for presiden um, the man who is a close aide' become a senator also now seems to be putting his hat in the ring. you know, power consolidates power, and this is still about

power and money. and this administration has amsed a lot of that. president duterte'hter inclip of the film. and you'vepoken about her. i want to know what you make of her. what is she like? is it like the apple, you know, dropping from the tree? is she different from her? fath what is the realistic possibility of, of duterte's dauger? >> sara duterte is sara zimmerman duterte. e is, um, biracial. she is, her mother is jewish american, actually. think she's tough, you know?se i she is known as "the slugger," because she, she punched the sheriff once for not doing her bidding. and she loves that story. she tells that story all the me, and she goes arod davao in her harley. she is, so she has this tough image, but she doesn't have the dirty mouth of her father. shhas a very clean... you s know, sh sys away from

that, but i think she will be as tough. and she has already la groundwork. >> let's talk abouwhat's really at the heart of all this crisis, and that is an inability to separate, you know, truth from fiction, um, an inability to separate real news from m what's on sociia. the philippines, along with parts of india, alg with myanmar, are notable for the fact that news equals social media. it's almost like your newspapers television stations, ne stations, just have zero impact whatsoever.t, in feporters without borders ranks the philippines 136 out of 180 for press freedom, but it is called... called the philippatientook zero in the global spread of misinformation. so this applies to the united states.it pplies to europe. it applies to many, many parts of the world. tell me why it is so destructive

philippines. like th or is it just thsame as it is in the u.s., maria? >> absolutely. the same-- more destructive in a country like the philippines, because our institutions are weaker. look, jumping off your conversation about sara duterte, cebook on september 22 d two takedowns of influence operations, one of them from china, the other from the philippines that was linked to the police and the military. the one from china that was also creating fake accounts for the u.s. elections was also campaigning for sara duterte for esident, right? if we don't deal with this, news organizatns, any real human endeavor will becomeyo impossible icannot tell unfortunately the y we that is have. regardless of whether biden wins, that system, the world'sbu

largest distr of news, can't tell the differenceee befact and fiction. >> one of the great moments thac ramotures is you just before an event, where you're withour sister in a hotel ro in the united states. to wear this speciss thatnce you she had picked out, these glittery high heels. but you were being, also, you didn't want to do that. that wasn't what, your look. but u also were trying tout reassure her aow you have made your peacwith the possible danger, not to mention nce possible long-term sen you might receive. just end us with how you make your peace wh this. >>h, i... the way i've dealt with the last four years is to prepare myself for worst-case scenarios. it's like going on coverage, right?th yok of the absolute worst thing that can happen, and then you prepare for it.en

and verything else that happens is actually gravy compared to this worst thingar that you're pr for. um, look, i... strangely enough, despite my k anger, yw, once the vaccine is out and we can go out again, um, the world is fundamentally different. and the exciting part about thit time period t it matters, right? what we are doing, fighting for our rights, fighting for our democracy, fighting for the facts. i mean, christiane, this is...td then beyond that, to b of helping create a new world, a better world-- that's an incredible privilege. that's what i look forwardo. >> well, and everybody can see it in "a thousand ts." maria ressa, ramona diaz, thank you th very much for joining us. >> thank you for having us. y >> tha for joining us for this special "frontline"/ "amanpour and company" for more, please check out both programs on youtube and twittert

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