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public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: as the trial of derek chauvin went into a third week of testimony in minneapolis today, a police killing of a motorist in a neighboring community has once again left the region reeling. amna nawaz has the story. and a warning: viewers may find some of the images disturbing. >> nawaz: in a community already on edge, police released body camera footage of yesterday's fatal police shooting. what began as a traffic stop in brooklyn center, a suburb of minneapolis... >> taser taser taser! (gunfire) oh ( bleep ) i shot him! >> nawaz: ....ended with the death of 20-year-old daunte wright. police chief tim gannon said today he believes the officer
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accidentally drew her handgun instead of her taser. >> as i watch the video and listen to the officer's commands, it is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their taser, but instead shot mr. wright with a single bullet. >> nawaz: police had previously said wright was being arrested on an outstanding warrant. the state bureau of criminal apprehension is investigating the incident; the unnamed officer, described only as a senior officer, is currently on administrative leave. mayor mike elliott called for more action... >> let me be very clear. my position is that we cannot afford to make mistakes that lead to the loss of life of other people in our profession. and so i do fully support releasing the officer of her duties. >> nawaz: even before the video was released, protestors had already gathered at the scene on sunday afternoon, confronting officers and jumping on a police car. at the brooklyn center police department, demonstrators were met by rubber bullets and tear gas, as authorities tried to
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disperse the crowd. reports followed of looting in other parts of brooklyn center... wright's mother pleaded for calm. >> i don't want all of this, all of this. i just want my baby home. that's all i want. i just want him to be home. i don't want everyone out here chanting and screaming and yelling. i just want him home. that's it. >> nawaz: the minnesota national guard activated sunday night. they were already on alert for potential unrest around the trial of former police officer derek chauvin for the may 2020 killing of george floyd, 10 miles away in minneapolis. officials said guard presence will increase today, with more protests planned. the twin cities area was placed under a state of emergency this afternoon and a curfew was called for tonight. minnesota governor tim walz... >> have ability to hold two things at the same time, create space for peaceful protests and no tolerance for destruction and
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crime. >> nawaz: and president biden addressed the shooting at a white house event this afternoon. >> our prayers are with the family. it's a really tragic thing that happened. the question is was it an accident? was it intentional? that remains to be determined by a full blown investigation. but in the meantime i want to make it clear again there is absolutely no justification, none, for looting. no justification for violence. peaceful protests, understandable. >> nawaz: meanwhile over the weekend, another video showing police use of force caught the country's attention over 1600 miles away. >> open the door slowly. >> nawaz: video released from a december traffic stop in windsor virginia showed two police officers drawing their weapons on a driver in military uniform after pulling him over. >> nawaz: they claim he was“ eluding police,” but army second lieutenant caron nazario, who is black and latino, says he
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waited to pull over until he'd reached a gas station because it was well-lit. >> what's going on is you're fixin' to ride the lightning, son. >> nawaz: one of the officers threatens nazario... >> i'm honestly afraid. >> you should be. >> nawaz: then uses pepper spray in nazario's face. that officer was later fired, after an investigation found department policy was not followed. this video was made public after nazario filed a lawsuit earlier this month, alleging the officers violated his constitutional rights. for more on the impact of this latest police killing, and why they continue to happen, we're joined by two guests closely following it all. lisa clemons is a former police officer and is the founder and director of a mother's love initiative, a community support organization based in minneapolis. and sam sinyangwe is an activist, data scientist and co- founder of the groups campaign zero and mapping police
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violence. welcome to you both. and thank you for being here. lisa, i want to start with you and the news we heard today, the release of this video from the police department there. and also the police chief believed that this was accidental. what was your reaction to that and what has been the reaction you are seeing and hearing on the ground? >> i would say from both sides, once i heard that it was an accidental shooting, but i knew that out at the scene last night. my focus when i'm at the scene is on the grief and the trauma that, the historical trauma that my people are experiencing. continuing to experience with the police. so my focus was on the family and not on the police or the video. but hi that information last night while i was at the scene. >> nawaz: lisa, this news that it was accidental, how do you think that will go down with people who were clearly very upset about the police shooting over the weekend and last night? >> we have a great divide in our community.
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so i think those who the police are wrong no matter what, that that side will work their agenda and i won't blame them for that. but then there is the other side that will say, she didn't mean to do it but then there is the lisa clemons that said whether she meant to do it or not, a life was lost. and we have to address that. >> nawaz: sam, you track police violence, you map all of this nationwide. i think a lot of people are wondering, how did this incident that began as a traffic stop end up with a man dead? what would you say to that? >> i would say that sadly this was all too common in this country. last year we did an analysis where we found 1,127 cases where police killed people last year, 2020. of that, 121 people were killed by police after being stopped for a traffic violation. 121 people over the cores of a year, so this isn't rare, this isn't an isolated incident and this isn't something that is uncommon.
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this is the rule and not the exception. indeed when you look at police violence overall, the majority of cases in this country, whether police end up killing people, cases began as either a traffic stop, a mental health crisis, a domestic disturbance or another low level nonviolent offense. so these sort of low level issues, traffic violations, low level offenses actually result in hundreds and hundreds of people being killed by the police each year, and we have to think about this systemically, this isn't just an accident on the part of one officer. this is a system that should not have had an armed police officer on the scene to stop somebody for a traffic violation in the first place. again, we have to zoom out, because we have seen case after case, video after video, example after example that this is systemic, that this is a crisis across the country. this is something that is dping to require a lot more than just simply addressing the individual officer in this case.
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this is about the system as a whole continuing to kill people for the smallest of things. and in many cases for nothing at all. >> nawaz: and lisa, in this particular case, as you mentioned you are a former police officer as well, as sam mentioned, this was an officer who was armed with both a gun and a taser, as this police chief explains she believed she drew her taser are, or meant to drew her taser and accidentally drew her gun. how is easy is it for something like that to happen and does that raise concerns about training and experience? >> i think training and experience is key. it does happen, but it is still inexcusable. for me it is still inexcusable. i-- police officers are going to make traffic stops and they will continue to make traffic stops. but i think a bigger part of this, are factors on both sides. and i don't think anything will change until we start talking about that and be realistic
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about that fear on both sides. that young man shouldn't have been that afraid to be arrested, regardless of whatever the charge was against him. and i say that about george floyd as well. he should not have been that afraid to be arrested. so there are some things that need to change. some big things. but on both sides. >> nawaz: lisa, specific to your community, what are some of those things that need you change. you mentioned were you just miles from where george floyd was killed last year. >> some of it for us in the black community is just unchecked trauma or historical trauma that continues to retraumatize us. we haven't been able to unpack one event before there is another event behind it. not just in our community but in other states. but the biggest problem is that trust factor that is not there on either side. >> you mentioned the need for
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systemic overhaul, be specific for me if you can. what needs to happen, not just in minnesota but around the country, if you look at a state like maryland for example, that just passed a police overhaul, is it something like that that needs to change? >> so this is a complex issue that requires a multifaceted solution. there is not just one magical answer to all of this. but we do know the broad outlays of the type of solutions that need to be implemented all across the country. first of all we know that we need to dramically restrict the overall scope and roll of police in society. and so that means that we are not thinking about police, an armed agent of the state as the de facto response to issues of homelessness or substae abuse or mental health or somebody driving five miles over the speed limit. there are other responses. and in fact now over the past year since the police killed george floyd, a number of cities in part based on pressure from the organizing groups groups han
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to pilot some of those alternative models. >> nawaz: a lot of people paying a lot of attention to all of these issues and of course to minnesota tonight. sam sinyangwe and lisa clemons, thank you very much to both of you for join us tonight. >> thank you >> woodruff: minnesota prosecutors are nearing the end of their case against derek chauvin. it's now the third week of testimony, and as special correspondent fred de sam lazaro reports, today included emotional testimony from george floyd's brother. and another warning that viewers may find some of the images disturbing. >> reporter: the 11th day of testimony began with defense attorney eric nelson asking judge peter cahill to sequester the jury, with news headlines dominated by the fatal police shooting of a black man in a minneapolis suburb osunday. >> this incident while it is-- i the problem is that the emotional response that that case creates sets the stage for
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a jury to say i'm not going to vote “not guilty” because i'm concerned about the outcome. >> reporter: but the judge denied the motion. >> this is a totally different case. >> reporter: ...and the prosecution called cardiologist dr. jonathan rich to the stand. >> have you formed any opinions in this case to a reasonable degree of medical certainty as to a cause of mr. floyd's death? >> yes i have. >> telus your opinion or opinions. >> sure, in this case mr. george floyd died from cardiopulmonary arrest it was caused by low oxygen levels and those low oxygen levels were induced by prone restraint and positional asphyxiation that he was subjected to. >> reporter: after reviewing george floyd's medical records, video from the arrest, and the autopsy report, dr. rich put the defense's argument, that pre- existing health conditions or drug use led to floyd's death, to the test. >> i can state with a high
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degree of medical certainty that george floyd did not die from a primary cardiac event and he did not die from a drug overdose >> taken into account all the do you have an opinion to a reasonable degree of certainty as to whether mr. floyd's death was preventable? >> yes i do. >> would you tell us what that opinion is. >> yes, i believe that mr. george floyd's death was absolutely preventable. >> reporter: and for the first time, the prosecution called a member of the floyd family to the stand... >> in may 24th, i got married and my brother was killed may 25th. >> reporter: philonise floyd, tenderly recalled growing up with his older brother george. >> he was so much of a leader to us in the household he would make sure we had our clothes for school made sure we all were going to be to school on time like i told you george couldn't cook but he'd make sure you'd
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have a snack. >> reporter: the state of officer and use-of-force expert seth stoughton. >> if you thin of someone who is laying face down where head face is against ground chest against ground neck is suspension bridge so it's generally accepted in policing you do not put weight down on the neck in that position. >> reporter: judge cahill said he anticipates closing arguments will begin one week from today. for the pbs newshour, i'm fred de sam lazaro. >> woodruff: in the day's other news, a police chase in georgia left three officers wounded and an alabama man dead. the man's brother was taken into custody. the chase began outside atlanta,
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when state troopers pulled a car going 111 miles an hour. they say the driver took off again, and the other man opened fire on pursuing police. shooting erupted this afternoon at a high school in knoxville, tennessee. police say one male student was killed and an officer stationed at the school was wounded. a suspect was arrested. there's no word on a motive. on the pandemic, new numbers show 28% of the u.s. population is now fully vaccinated for covid-19. at the same time, infections are rising again, with michigan running the highest rate. governor gretchen whitmer is pressing for more vaccine doses. but today, the c.d.c. said that won't solve the problem. >> when you have an acute situation, extraordinary number of cases like we have in michigan, the answer is not necessarily to give vaccine. in fact, we know that the vaccine will have a delayed response.
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the answer to that is to really close things down, to go back to our basics, to go back to where we were last spring, last summer, and to shut things down. >> woodruff: meanwhile, the drugmaker regeneron reported its antibody cocktail is 72% effective against covid infections in the first week, and 93% after that. the company is seeking u.s. regulatory approval. in ukraine, president volodymyr zelenskyy's office complained today that russia is ignoring his request for talks with president vladimir putin. ukrainian officials now estimate russia has massed more than 40,000 troops along the frontier between the two countries, with another 40,000 in neighboring crimea. president biden ramped up his push today for a $2.3 trillion jobs and infrastructure package. he met with bipartisan lawmakers and said he's open to compromise with republicans who've criticized the plan's spending
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and tax hikes. >> i'm prepared to negotiate as to the extent of my infrastructure project as well as how we pay for it if we get a serious conversation about how to do that. i think everyone acknowledges we need a significant increase in infrastructure. >> woodruff: we'll go deeper into the politics and prospects of the plan, later in the program. the treasury department reports the federal deficit hit $1.7 trillion for the first six months of this budget year. that's nearly twice the old record. it's fueled by pandemic relief spending. president biden has issued a raft of new nominations to top government jobs. the police chief of tucson, arizona, chris magnus, is the pick for commissioner of customs and border protection. former pentagon official christine wormuth will be the first woman tapped for secretary of the army. and, anne milgram is being
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nominated to lead the drug enforcement administration. and, on wall street today, the dow jones industrial average lost 55 points to close at 33,745. the nasdaq fell 50 points, and, the s&p 500 slipped a fraction. still to come on the newshour: israel is suspected of destroying a power generator at a nuclear facility in iran. a new book exposes how the sackler family became a catalyst for the opioid crisis. congress returns to business with the president's infrastructure bill on the table. plus much more. >> woodruff: yesterday a major explosion disabled parts of iran's uranium enrichment
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facility at natanz, south of tehran; iran quickly blamed israel. as john yang tell us, this comes as indirect talks between the u.s. and iran over the crippled nuclear deal are set to resume. >> yang: the facility was knocked off line just hours after launching its new advanced centrifuges. tehran said sunday's blackout at the natanz facility, considered a centerpiece for iran's uranium enrichment program, had set off a fire. they called the attack an act of "nuclear terrorism" and blamed israel. >> ( translated ): various sources confirm that the zionist regime was behind this incident. >> yang: iranian foreign minister mohammad javad zarif warned natanz would be rebuilt to more quickly enrich uranium, state media quoted him as saying: "the zionists wanted to take revenge against the iranian people for their success on the path of lifting sanctions,” and that iran “...will take revenge
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for this action.” in israel, media widely reported the country's spy agency orchestrated the sabotage, even as officials have not claimed responsibility. but, speaking in jerusalem today, prime minister benjamin netanyahu said israel would never permit an iranian bomb. >> i will never allow iran to obtain the nuclear capability to carry out its genocidal goal of eliminating israel. and israel will continue to defend itself against iran's aggression and terrorism. >> yang: hostility between the two countries has played out in recent years through a series of clandestine attacks, from a mysterious explosion at natanz last july, to the killing in november of the iranian scientist who launched the nuclear program decades ago. and iran, in turn, has carried out its own attacks on at least two israeli-owned cargo ships. israel has been critical of tempts by the biden white
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house to revive the iran nuclear deal; that would, in part, ease sanctions on iran. secretary of defense lloyd austin, who was in israel this weekend, said attempts at diplomacy would not be overshadowed by recent events. >> in terms of, you know, our efforts to engage iran in the efforts will continue. and i'm very obviously supportive of the president's efforts to negotiate a way ahead there. >> yang: indirect talks between the u.s. and iran resume wednesday in vienna. but european officials acting a mediators voiced concern. >> ( translated ):hat we are hearing from tehran at the moment is not a positive contribution to this, >> yang: in a letter to the u.n. secretary general today, zarif called on the u.s. not to use the attack as leverage in negotiations, and asked for an end to sanctions that have been in place since president trump abandoned the nuclear deal three years ago. at the white house today, press secretary jen psaki said the united states had no involvement and said the u.s. focus remains
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on diplomacy. henry rome is senior analyst at the eurasia group, a political risk consulting company. he focuses on iran and israel. . mr. rome, thanks so much for joining us in this case, what was israel's motive be or should i say motifs,-- motive, plural. >> yes, absolutely. first and fore most we have to say that the ises rheals are keen to de grade iranian nuclear capabilities by any means at their disposal so the first motive to make it harder for the iranians to enrich you rain yawm-- uranium in large quantities and that they are focused on securitying their own facilities instead of doing nubbing clear research. but i think there is another porntd motive which is the negotiations ongoing, returning this week in vienna which is to say that either the iranians will retaliate for this attack which could have unintended consequences and make those
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negotiations more difficult. or iran internally, the domestic politics are so toxic right now, might decide that now is just not the time to contemplate concessions to the west. >> the foreign minister, iranian foreign minister says he expects talks to go on. iran would not be pulling out of talks but as you say, what does this do to their negotiating position, their leverage at the table? >> yeah, i mean i think the incident happened amid a very contentious domestic environment inside tehran when the negotiators returned from vienna at the end of last week. which is a huge amount of skepticism about whether the u.s. will follow through with its commitment to lift sanctions and i think the broader environment is one of skepticism about whether the u.s. and iran can make progress before the iranian presidential elections if june. so this is just one more factor, i think, that adds on to the challenges facing both the iranian government and the biden
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administration nz reviving the nuclear agreement. >> you mentioned the biden administration, clearly the united states and israel agree that they don't want iran to have nubbing clear capability but they may disagree on how to get there. would taking this action while the u.s. secretary much defense was in israel, do you think that was a message, a signal to the biden administration? >> yeah, i mean i think frankly it is quite provocative that you have az a negotiations are just getting under way, an incident like this. it also follows an disinlt last week where israel was accused of attacking an iranian spy ship in the red sea. and so you take these two incidents together and say it looks likesrael is really trying to send a pretty clear message that not only are they unsatisfied with the way things are going from a diplomatic point of view, but also that they are willing to take steps covertly to try to make
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diplomacy more difficult. >> and by naming israel, you talk about the domestic political pressures within iran, does that increase the pressure on iran to respond in a bigger way than they havin the past with these attacks on israeli shipping? >> i think it does. in the sense that the irannia government and emly the foreign minister as you cited there, is being very clear that this was not in their view of the united states. so it is a way to say to the domestic de tractors diplomacy in tehran, look, we are still talking with the u.s. indirectly, but they weren't the ones involved in directing this attack. you asked about retaliation. you know, the iranians are quite nimble in con tell plaight and in carrying out retaliation to attacks like this. so i would expect that to go forward at some point but i think the assumption is that the iranians will be careful not to conduct a retaliation that would be so provocative that would
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make negotiations more difficult, that would make it more difficult for the united states to say look, we're contemplating giving sanctions relief in exchange for nubbing clear constraint. >> was this a cyberattack or was this the old-fashioned way, hands on? >> it is a great question. the short answer is we don't know. we know that there was an explosion at a power unit. now if we recall back and you mentioned in your report, the incident explosion at the advanced centrifuge facility last summer, which was, it appeared to be kind of a physical old farqed bomb placed there, there is oftentimes with operations like this, there can be a cybercomponent, there can be a physical component. it is kind of ranges on a spectrum there. so i think we don't quite know at this point. but there was an explosion and that is not easily repaired so far as we can tell. >> and henry rome at the eur asia group, thank you very much.
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>> thanks so much. >> woodruff: the sackler family is one of the richest families in america, donating millions to some of the world's most prestigious museums and universities. but the source of that wealth was for many years something of a mystery. some members of the sackler family own purdue pharma, the company that makes and markets oxycontin, the addictive painkiller considered one of the initial sparks for the nation's opioid crisis, a crisis that's now killed more than 450,000 americans, and continues today. william brangham talks with the author of a new book that sheds light on this secretive dynasty. >> it's a story about a family with tremendous ambition that built an enormous fortune, a series of people who set out to really leave a mark on the world. and they did know they made a great deal of money and they did
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enduring mark that we're all living with now. but i happen to think that it is a sordid mark, and one that will be a great and longstanding source of shame. >> brangham: patrick radden keefe spent several years investigating the sackler family. he's a staff writer for the "new yorker" magazine, and is just out with a new book: “empire of pain, the secret history of the sackler dynasty.” the book starts with the family patriarch, dr. arthur sackler, a man celebrated for his creativity, and who first made his name treating mental illness in the 1940's. >> he was a polymath. he was incredibly brilliant. he worked at an insane asylum in queens, new york. and he saw people who were and he had a notion that someday there might be a pill that could help people who were psychotic or schizophrenic who had other afflictions. and so he became very much a proponent of pharmaceutical innovation, of drugs, but then also of advertising, pharmaceutical advertising. and
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many people credit him with really being the father of pharmaceutical advertising in the united states. >> brangham: and when you look at how, back in the '60s, arthur first marketed and sold early tranquilizers, valium and popular in their day, i mean, in some ways it follows a very similar template to the accusations that have been made about purdue in the modern era, about how they marketed and sold their drugs. >> this is what's so uncanny about this story, is that arthur dies in 1987. he dies before oxycontin is ever introduced. but the game plan that purdue and the sacklers used to roll out oxycontin in the 1990s is in many ways a game plan that arthur sackler invented. you know, the first real and so he came up with a real kind of almost mad men type series of very seductive tricks in order to try and persuade doctors that they should be prescribing his products. the side effects of a drug or the potential downsides of a drug were downplayed, the therapeutic benefits of a drug
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were way overplayed. >> brangham: purdue pharma initially made millions selling the morphine drug, ms-contin, used mainly with cancer patients. after his death, arthur sackler's heirs sold off their stake in the company, but his two brothers, mortimer and raymond, remained involved. purdue's real blockbuster came in the late 1990's with oxycontin, which contains the addictive opioid oxycodone. purdue sealed the pills in a slow-release coating, which the company claimed would make them far less addictive. >> this was a hypothesis, a hypothesis that they didn't actually have any real persuasive proof for. but it became a signature element of the marketing of oxycontin. >> brangham: another detail that you report was that the family and purdue pharma recognized also that if you were just marketing these drugs for cancer and end-of-life care, that that was a relatively small market, but that if you could market these to the masses, and make
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these pain pills for everybody, that was a huge market. >> this for me, was one of the most striking discoveries in the research for this book was a trove of internal emails from senior executives at purdue pharma when they were talking about introducing oxycontin. they talk about this very explicitly-- you know, we don't want to “niche” oxycontin for cancer is what they would say. and they did focus groups, and they realized that oxycodone, in the minds of doctors, was not as strong as morphine, it wasn't as threatening, it didn't have that same stigma attached to it. the crazy thing is oxycodone is actually significantly stronger than morphine. it's not weaker. but doctors had this misapprehension that it was a weaker drug. and there are all these emails in which these senior purdue executives, and at least one of the sacklers is actually copied on some of these emails, have these conversations in which they say explicitly, “let's not do anything to make doctors realize ey have this wrong.
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>> brangham: the development and the rollout of these drugs also coincided with what seems to be a very genuine movemt in the medical community to treat pain more effectively and more aggressively in patients. >> exactly. it was a perfect storm. and doctors had what i think is probably an appropriate skepticism about the use of, the aggressive use, of strong opioids for just about anybody because of a fear that these drugs could be potentially quite addictive. and so the drugs were used, but doctors were often hesitant to prescribe them. and so there's a very conscious campaign by purdue, a campaign that that recalls in many ways, arthur sackler's earlier campaigns on behalf of other drugs to change the mind of the medical establishment in the united states, to persuade them that actually all these fears about opioids are overblown, that they're not as addictive as people have said. and in fact, the claim with oxycontin was that it's addictive less than 1% of the time when it's prescribed by a
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doctor, which is a wild claim with no basis in fact, but one which purdue's army of sales representatives made to doctors across this country. >> brangham: when oxycontin hit the market, problems soon started emerging. pills were diverted, stolen, abused, sold illicitly, and people began developing addictions. keefe repeatedly documents in his book how purdue executives and salespeople were monitoring all this in real time. >> this, to me, is the most interesting moment in the story, because confronted with this new information, what do the sacklers do? what does purdue do? instead, what happened was the company went very hard after journalists who tried to tell these stories, something they're still doing today. and they also effectively claim that the problem isn't the drug at all, that the drug is every bit as perfect as it was when we described it initially. the problem is the abusers. and so they launched this
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campaign, a pretty conscientious campaign to target and attack and stigmatize the very people who were overdosing and becoming addicted to their own drug. >> brangham: representatives of the sackler's say they've not read the book, but claim keefe's earlier reporting about them in the "new yorker" had mistakes. the family and purdue argue they weren't alone believing these opioids could be used safely, and assert they were just a fraction of overall opioid sales during this period. they note that federal regulators approved their practices and products all along. and they also argue: many of the people who abused oxycontin were doing so illegally, and to blame that on a company, or its owners, isn't fair. >> while i believe i conducted myself legally and ethically and i believe the full record will demonstrate that, i feel absolutely terrible that a product created to help, and has
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helped so many people, has also been associated with death and addiction. >> brangham: two members of the sackler family, david and kathe, testified before congress in december. while acknowledging the severity of the opioid crisis, they said there wasn't much they could've done. >> i cant-- there is nothing i can find that i would have done differently based on what i believed and understood then. >> i mean, look, this is a complicated story, but it's actually not that complicated. you sometimes need to back up and not lose sight of the basic contours here. it's a family saga. it's a story about the opioid crisis and big pharma, but it's also a crime story. this is a crime story. this is a company that pled guilty to federal charges in 2007 and then again pled guilty to new charges, but a similar kind of claims of fraud about the fraudulent marketing of drugs in 2020, just a few months ago. so you have this whole arc, this and that was something i very much wanted to capture-- that the it may be that we don't end
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up with a satisfying version of accountability, but let's not lose sight of just what went down here. >> brangham: alright, the book is “empire of pain the secret history of the sackler dynasty”" patrick radden keefe, great to have you on the newshour. thank you. >> thank you. >> woodruff: the sacklers have agreed to pay more than $4 billion as part of a proposed bankruptcy restructuring plan. it would end thousands of lawsuits against the company, but a number of states have argued the plan is not tough enough on the sackler family itself. >> woodruff: congress returns from recess this week, and as we reported earlier, the first stop for a bipartisan group of lawmakers was the white house, invited by the president as he works to sell his american jobs plan on infrastructure and climate.
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lisa desjardins has joins us for an update. so hello, lisathis is not the usual group ofipartisan lawmakers we see going to the white house. tell us what is going on? what are we learning from this? >> we know that this is a huge effort for the biden administration. this is something that they see as a once in a generation investment in this country, 2.4 trillion dollars, none of it related to the covid crisis. all just about infrastructure, jobs, different elements of american life. and let's look at the photo of who was there. it was republicans and democrats both, there you see two senators on the couch, house members, senators on the right, house members on the left, for social distancing, you can't see all of them in that photo. but i tell you, those numbers were generally people involved in transportation in some way or another, in congress. but i notice something else important about this group. because the president doesn't
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just need to sell it to members of congress, they are critical. he has to sell it to the couny. so look at a map of where the eight members of congress who were at this meeng are from. the blue and red represent democrats and republicans who were in the meeting. you see this is a geographic spread, not just republican and democrats. the president here is clearly trying to bring together the whole country and point out that one thing all of these lawmakers have in common is need for infrastructure, water, all of this kind of stuff. so it is a very high stakes kind of negotiation here. and he's trying to bring in people from all all ends of the spectrum. >> woodruff: so lisa, where do ing thises stand? what does it lack like for this proposed measure? >> this meeting told us a lot. we know that president biden, one of the representatives in the meeting, came, told me and other reporters that he actually was very open to many different ideas for this large plan
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including potentially an increase in the federal gas tax. apparently president biden says 5 cents is a possibility. he didn't stick to it but said this is something he would consider. also raising fees for perhaps electric vehicles which now don't pay into a gas tax. that something republicans like. but judy at the end of the day, there was still a clear difference inside. republicans think this proposal is way too large. president biden wants to go big. but everyone came away from this meeting saying they do feel the president was sincere in trying to get some kind of agreement going between both parties. it is going to be hard to do. overall where are we? i think we are still months away from really knowing exactly how this shapes up. they're really deciding the menu here. when you talk about dinner time across the america. it is like they are figuring out the menu of a very large buffet, they are not really even cooking on the stove yet, these are early important days, but important ones. >> woodruff: we like the analogy of cooking, since this
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is dinner time, lisa desjardins, thank you very much. and here to analyze the politics of this jobs and infrastructure package, and more, our regular politics monday doo, that is amy walter of the cook political report and tamara keith of npr. hello to both of you. let's just pick up, tam, where we left off about-- left off with lisa. we know it is early in the process. she said a few more months at least. but what does it look like, the president faces in terms of getting this through the congress? >> it is early yet and he faces multiple challenges. one is will he be able to get any republicans on board, and it seems as though the white house is goes to let that play out at least for the next month or so. but beyond that, can they keep democrats together is another question. some progressive democrats really wish that they wouldn't split this in two with college affordability and child care in a second package to come later.
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other democrats, people like joe manchin are concerned about how it would be funded. and so there is a lot for them to figure out, but clearly president biden says in this meeting, has been signaling he wants to talk. at least for now. and then though eventually it could become like the covid relief package where they stop talking and just start pushing it through. >> woodruff: so amy, how do you size up the politics on both sides for this? >> yeah, it sure seems likely to me that the white house is ying to redefine bipartisanship which they have been doing from the very beginning, which the add-- of the administration which is by part sanship isn't how many republicans we have to vote on this, bipartisanship is how popular is it. that means there are republican voters across the cotry who may agree with joe biden on what he is putting forward. and so it seems more likely than not this is going to go through
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on democratic votes only. and so the question to me is just how popular is this going to be, if indeed this is still as lisa was talking about, you know, in the early stages. we're not only boiling the water yet. for the meal. what does it look like if this goes through in july or august or september. and how much time, if republicans feel like they aren't part of the decision mang, how much time did they have to change the focus, to nake this about as tam and lisa both discussed,too much spending, spending on things that aren't traditionally seen as infrastructure. that it is getting paid for by taxes raised on all kinds of people, even if they say it is only going to be on certain types of people and certain types of businesses. so that's the danger for desm krats going forward. if you are going to make bipartisanship based on how popular it is, if republicans in congress don't feel a buy-in,
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then they are not going to feel particularly open minded to making this beme more popular as we go through the years. >> woodruff: just quickly, tam, does it look as if the two sides are really listening to each other, really talking to each other? because for the longest time it felt like we didn't have any of that going on in this city. >> yeah, this is a more traditional approach where the white house puts out a proposal and then congress discusses it and there are conversations with the white house. so there really are conversations happening whether they lead to something is an entirely different question. and president biden toad insisted these talks were not just window-dressing but let's see what happens in late may, early june, as summer potentially drags on. i think another consideration that they may end up dealing with is they could become a victim of their own success if the economy ends up coming back strong, and that's a big if, but
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there is some fuel in there from the covid relief bill if the economy keeps coming back strong. then making this as a jobs bill to train this as a jobs bill rather than just roads and bridges, becomes a little bit more challenging because people will make the case well, there are jobs. >> woodruff: and we are seeing more indications the economy is am coming back. the chairman of the federal reserve said over the weekend on "60 minutes" we're going to see a big growth this year. amy, i want to zero in on republicans. over the weekend the republican national committee, some of their donors got together down in florida. they heard from former president trump who among others took after mitch mcconnell, the senate majority leader. one of the nicer things he said about him is he is a stone cold loser. does this reflect something seriously going on in terms of a division inside the republican party. or is this just the surface playing out, name calling?
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>> yeah, this is the same division we've seen diswrudy for the last five years from the so called establishment republicans and the trump republicans, it is not as big of a problem now for the establishment side or the folks who are inongress or up next year. because well, trump's not in the white house. they don't have to respond to every single one of his tweets and actions like they did before. the real problems could be for somebody like mitch mcconnell is that donald trump decides to play in primaries in these must-win senate races or house races but mostly in senate races. and chooses a candidate who is most like him and that candidate becomes actually or that candidate is not the best candidate to win in a swing state like pennsylvania, for example. and so it puts mitch mcconnell's chances to get the majority on the line. >> tam, what would you add? >> i would add that today former south carolina governor nii
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hailey was asked if she would run for president in 2024 if president trump decided he was rubbing. and she said absolutely not, she wouldn't run. so he is casting a large shadow. his name is also still gold when it comes to the small dollar donors. you have the fundraising appeals coming from the republican party that basically say like show your loyalty to trump, keep giving us money. and so he is still this huge outside player. he has a piece of the base that supports him strongly. but republicans need, the trump part of the base and the more establishment part of the base to win the senate seat for mitch mrk con el to have a chance to get the leadership role back. >> woodruff: and amy, is this the kind of thing where republican lands on the job and infrastructure bill? >> i don't know if it is important for that. but it is about where money is going. and that is, it is going to be very critical. donald truch is saying send it
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to me. don't send it to the party committees that are taxed with reflecting these folks. >> woodruff: a lot going on right now. amy walter, tamara keith, thank you both. >> you're welcome. >> woodruff: researching masculinity has been a life-long interest for andrew reiner, and it took on a new urgency when his son, macallah, was born in 2011. tonight, reiner gives his brief but spectacular take on confronting an outdated model. his latest book is called, "better boys, better men." the environment that i grew up in it was pretty fraught with tension. at seven years old, i got into thisrutal fistfight with a neighborhood boy. i was scared. i was bloodied and he kept hitting me. so i got up and i ran away. later that afternoon i do go home through the back door and i
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hear my oldest brother yelling and screaming. "he's such a black sheep. he's such an embarrassment, he's a coward." and he's talking about me of course. that really kind of began a smear campaign. in terms of shaming me. and so for years i just try to fight me away. i realized out of my shame. it's, it's how we talk and how we don't talk to boys. that really is the beginning of the problem. if we are depriving boys of a language of an emotional awareness, clearly, that's going to have huge repercussions for them and for the rest of us as they get older. one of the things i'm really hopeful about is that there's been a huge upswing in the number of men's groups that have been going on in this culture. you basically have a formation of guys getting together and talking about their lives in ways that maybe they wouldn't have done that before.
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and so i started teaching a college seminar called the changing face of masculinity. and that was kind of one of the, the next big step in terms of my awareness of is on this, just this idea of what healthy masculinity can and should look like. and then the birth of my son, of course, because if i had a reckoning, when i was young, this was really kind of the second big reckoning because it was no longer just my crusade. it really forced me to face a lot of questions in terms of how i was going to raise a boy. >> masculinity to me means that you always can cry when you feel like crying and you always should have your emotions when you want them. when my dad was a kid, boys weren't supposed to cry. makes me feel kind of sad that he had to go through that. to the boys out there might be struggling.
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you're not alone. and i just want to tell you it's always okay to share your emotions into cry because that will help you on the way to being a healthier man in your future. >> i'm andew reiner. >> and i'm makala reiner. >> and this is our brief but spectacular take on being better boys and better men. >> woodruff: and you can find all of our brief but spectacular segments online at: pbs.org/newshour/brief. later tonight, the pbs newshour presents “prince philip: a royal life.” with ourartners at britain's independent television news, we explore prince philip's life and legacy after his passing last week at the age of 99. that's "prince philip: a royal life," tonight at 9:00 p.m. and later tonight you can see the premiere of "down a dark
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stairwell." the documentary chronicles the shooting in brooklyn of an innocent black man, and the trial of the chinese american police officer, who pulled the trigger. the film casts a powerful light that's down a dark stairwell later tonight on pbs. and a passing of note, before we go tonight. sergeant ray lambert died this past friday night, at age 100. the army medic was in the firs wave that assaulted omaha beach on d-day. the then-23-year old had already earned awards for valor, and was wounded twice, invading north africa and sicily. all that before june 6, 1944, and the allied invasion to liberate europe. two years ago on the 75th anniversary of d-day, he spoke with our malcolm brabant beside the concrete block where he saved many lives that fateful day, all while severely-wounded himself. it came to be called "ray's
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rock." >> i had obligated myself to fighting in world war ii and i thought that if i was the right kind of husband and man and father, that i would put my life on the line for my family. many times you hear people say well, i am willing to die for my country. they are not really saying that. what they are saying is that they are willing to fight for their families and their country >> woodruff: and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, please stay safe, and we'll see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by:
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