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judy: another day on capitol hill with no vote on infrastructure and no deal on the bigger pen -- spending package. president biden made a direct appeal to democrats. lisa: not an everyday site. a president on capitol hill and the goal of president biden's visit with house democrats today, to get his agenda back on track. pres. biden: i am telling you we will get this done. it does not matter when. it does not matter if it is in six minutes, six days, or six weeks. we will get it done. lisa: house democrats began the state fractured still over whether to go ahead and hold a vote now on the $1 trillion infrastructure bill. >> we're working through these issues and i believe as we always do. lisa: speaker pelosi had promised to call about, being

specific with reporters. >> are you committed to having a vote on infrastructure today regardless? rep. pelosi:. i intend to. lisa: progressives are seeking more commitments on a larger bill covering climate, health care, and other priorities. jayapal stressed a handshake is not good enough. rep. jayapal: i have consistently said we need a vote because i want to make sure ere are no delays and mixups and mixed understanding about what the deal is good lisa: the fate of the larger reconciliation bill hinges on moderate senate democrats kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. both say it must be smaller than what progressives want. some house democrats said they wanted more from biden. >> the time is now. he has the singular power to unify. i think he can be doing more in

front of us. yes. very few of us have seen the president in the nine muncie has been president. lisa: the white house said biden is engaging and had made calls to democrats around the clock. he scrapped a planned event in chicago to focus on finding agreement this week on the hill. judy: lisa is here with me in the studio covering the white house. hello to both of you. these are, a lot of action but no clear movement or vote. where does everything std? lisa: i do not think there will be and instruct -- infrastructure boat tonight. there will be a vote on something else. a reauthorization for the highway trust fund. midnight so democrats have to deal with that. we expect a 30 day extension. there is no problems from a day like or a matter of a few days in that they will take action but overall, democrats are doing something that one member said is redoing the conversation from scratch.

i want to talk about pelosi's promise to have the infrastructure boat today. she said that yesterday. let's figure out what happened. i want to explain this to people. for you and a day is 24 hours. that seems normal. there is a legislative day and pelosi is talking about something that could go on indefinitely. we are in the legislative day of september 30 in the house. it can go on forever. one time robert byrd had one go on for over 100 calendar days. it is a jedi mind trick. i think pelosi is pulling -- we will see if she ends the legislative day and says we need more time. when you talk to members, it is clear the president's visit was a huge morale boost and moreover, it provided clarity they need from him that he is still on board both of the bills moving at the same time, not one in front of the other. that was important clarity members did not have gd -- have. judy: we heard some democratic

members expressing frustration ere that the president has not been as visible on this. what is your understanding of how involved he is? lisa: u.s. the white house where is the president. they said he has been involved. the white house has been involved all along. they point to senior advisers and staff that they say have been in close contact with every group and every faction of the democratic caucus. here is the group they point to. they are leading the charge on capitol hill. susan rice meets domestic policy. ron klain is the chief of staff. brian deese has the economic counsel. luis arturo heads economic affairs and steve ricchetti is the senior counselor. many of them were on the hill until midnight last night since september 1. there have been 300 calls and meetings with members and staff directors. they say we have been making the case and we have been involved but today, they say and jen psaki was asked about this, today was the day the president felt was the date to make the case directly to those members, reassure them we will get there, compromises will be reached.

they have to be made. both sides need to give a little. he wants to reassure they are moving forward. judy: one of the clear things is it will not be $3.5 trillion social spending, reconciliation. it will be lower than that. what are you hring from the white house about what they are willing to live with? lisa: we are pressing trying to get a number from them that they are comfortable with. what would the president signed off on? the two names or than any other, senators manchin and sinema. they know they have to give guidance and reassure progressives the agenda will move forward. judy: lisa, back to you. where does it go from here if you don't expect a vote tonight? what does this mean for the democrats? this was their stamp on what will happen in the country. lisa: it is more clear today this is the beginning. their beginning of negotiations. at this beginning point, where are the conversation behind

closed doors? i have sources that the conversation seems to be around $2 trillion to 2.5 trillion dollars. some progressives said they can accept something in that area. there is a big conversation about what is it that gets cut? that's what they will have to do soon. i think for the next week, it will be about what size both sides can perhaps get their hands around. not a firm number but somewhere in that $2 trillion to $2.5 trillion. it seems this has been a chaotic week for democrats. speaker pelosi pledged to vote. it did not happen. that is not good for a speaker. i want to remind people the affordable care act took over eight months to get through congress. on that vote, the affordable care act in the house, democrats lost 39 of their members and still passed it. here is speaker pelosi losing only three. that is why it is harder. the aca was also difficult so this is threating the tiniest of

needles but i have to say i was convinced by progressives and moderates today that they are talking more in unison. they are moving toward a similar goal. once they get to the details, it will get hard again. judy: they have known all along how tight the margin is. lisa: that's right. judy: we will see. thank you both. ♪ vanessa: we will return to the full program after the latest headlines good drugmaker merck reported its experimental pill reduces covert hospitalizations and deaths by 50% for those recently infected. the company plans to seek federal approval for the drug. more on the potential of this new treatment after the new summary. california has announced the nation's first statewide

covid-19 vaccination mandate for schoolchildren. governor gavin newsom said it will be phased in. seventh through 12th grades and kindergarten 36 as vaccines for different age groups when final fda approval. newsom said it is clear vaccine mandates work. gov. newsom: the evidence is overwhelming that getting people vaccinated, they are ending the pandemic and if that is the intention, to keep us healthy and safe and get our economy moving and our kids back with benefits of being in person, all i say is let's get this done and others to follow. u.s. supreme court justice vanessa: sonya soared to mayor refused to block new york city's vaccine mandate for employees. the legal dispute continues in lower courts. the high court said justice wright brett kavanaugh has tested positive for covid. he is fully vaccinad and shows no symptoms.

cavanaugh will participate in next week's oral arguments remotely. the court said all other justices have tested negative. the news comes ahead of the opening of the courts term monday. justices plant ahearn -- heard --planned to hear arguments for the first time since the pandemic. the united stations -- nations condemned ethiopia over its treatment of the tigre region and warned millions are facing famine. the humanitarian office said civilians are in desperate need because the ethiopian government is blocking food aid. >> it is important that humanitarian operation continues and it does. we have aery high number of people in very urgent need in tigre. 5.2 million people are there in need of assistance.

judy: the u.n. charge if you'll be a had no legal right to expel seven senior officials yesterday. the country's government accused the officials of meddling in its monstrators in iraq marked two years since nationwide protests demanding political reform took place. roughly 1000 people marched in baghdad. many hoding photos of loved ones who were killed by security forces during the unrest. they renewed calls for change ahead of parliamentary elections next week. back in the country, a federal judge in texas is considering whether to block the states new abortion law. at a hearing in austin, the u.s. justice department argued for an injunction. the texas law bans most abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. it lets private citizens enforce the band by suing anyone who aids in an abortion. breaking this evening, the commissioner of the national women's league soccer --soccer league is out amid allegations of the recently fired coach of

the north carolina courage gauged in sexual harassment and misconduct including sexual coercion toward players. we'll take a closer look at the story after the new summary. jimmy carter, the nation's oldest living ex-president, turned 97 today. he marked the occasion quietly at his home in plains, georgia. he survived cancer in 2015 and he and his wife rosalyn celebrated their 75th wedding anniversary in july. still to come, how a new drug could change the way covid is treated and reduce hospitalizations and deaths. the challenge to get hundreds of thousands of migrants in europe vaccinated. david brooks and jonathan on the political precariousness of the president's economic agenda and much more. ♪ >> this is the pbs newshour up from w eta studios in washington

and in the west from the walter cronkite school of generalist him at arizona state university --journalism at arizona state university. judy: the country will pass and grim number soon. 700,000 americans who have died from covid and related complications. the best way to stop the spread and prevent infection are vaccines but throughout the pandemic, there have not been many helpful or easy treatment options once pele become infected. as william reports, a new antiviral drug fromerck offers hope for keepingatients with covid-19 out of the hospital and alive. william: that is right. the only information we have about this drug comes from merck. federal regulators and regulators abroad have not seen any of their data. an independent board reviewing the drugs initial trial said it should bstopped early because results were so promising. the company is seeking approval for widespread use. to understand how this might

help fight the pandemic, i am joined by dr. --, and infectious disease specialist at boston university school of medicine where she runs the center for emerging infectious diseases policy and research. great to have you on the newshour. what do you make of this? is this a possible new tool for us? dr. bedalia: if the data pans out and an antivral has been the missing piece in the way we respond to the pandemic and the reason it is important is because currently, the data that is presented which we need to validate shows that if given the first five days of illness, it can reduce hospitalizations and deaths by 50% in people who have one medical condition. the difference, though, is compared to monoclonal antibodies, this is something to take my mouth and the use of monoclonal has been limited because it requires intravenous infusion and that requires a clinic. if you can give something by

mouth qckly after diagnosis, you'remproving the access of the drug to more peoplend keeping more people from getting into the hospitals and you may also reduce the time people are continue --ontagious which could reduce transmission. a lot of promise although iill say it needs to be linked with testing. we are limited on the way we test and you have to confirm covid-19 to qualified to take this. right now, rapid tests are still being played by shortages in many parts of the world in this country. william: we cannot give the drug to the infected if you cannot figure out who is infected. it is easier to use. you don't need to do it in a hospital. it is a pill so you do not need to refrigerate it. none of those concerns with the vaccine. are there other challenges? can we do a sense of how quickly this may be distributed? if it gets approved? dr. bedalia: i think we would have to hear frothe manufacturer about their

capacity. the way this --a couple of good things about this drug as well as caveas. i will start with the caveats. it is not a replacement for vaccines because it is always going to be better for you not to get infected. you breakthrough infected. if you are under vaccinated area , it will make a big impact. interns --mark would have to create enough to have an impact bu hopefully there would be effort to produce enough of it to be distributed to parts o the world where vaccines are not available more readily and were health-care systems are getting overwhelmed with the appearance of every new variant of the virus. william: can you explain how that works? if we give vaccines to every nation and every population who want some but prior to that, you're describing this as a bridge until vaccines get out there. how does this compare to what a

vaccine does as far as its effect on your body? dr. bedalia: this stops the replication of the virus by producin --when a virus tries to copy itself. in some ways, it is similar to the hiv drugs on the market that do the same kind of work. it is a different type of technology that some of the messenger rna vaccines that require specialized production and hopefully, the barriers to manufacturing may be less because it is technology -- to get to places that have not been vaccinated enough but they might also be a bridge if for example because of the way they work, the antivirals might be a bit more resilient against new variants. let's say a new one appears on the scene. these drugs may actually be a bridge until we can update the vaccine to have them address better the variants. william: i will ask you a social science question as well.

every time we've seen a new treatment that comes out in this country, we have seen such divergent reactions. we have a safe, effective vaccine that millions of people are suspect about and yet those same people will embrace untested, unproven -- unproven treatments. let's say the drug gets approved. do you have a sense of whether this would be embraced by people or whether this would be the subject of further conspiracy theories? dr. bedalia: i think disinformation and misinformation are a challenge that are unfortunately here to stay and i would not be surprised if there was some matter of misinformation around these drugs. what hurts us is when those disinformation and misinformation pieces get amplified by larger media platforms which is what you saw with a highly effective vaccines. i am holding out my pessimism potentially that even despite having potential antiviral

drug, we may cease in areas where people do not take them because they get politicized and i hope we do not see that. william: let's hope once you see the data, there is good news. always good to see you. thank you very much. current -- judy: as europe repairs for refugees fleeing afghanistan, there are concerns undocumented migrants already living on the continent are being left out when it comes to covid-19 vaccines. the european union has now inoculated over 70% of its population. in italy alone, 700,000 migrants are thought to be frying -- flying underhe radar. lucy hoff has this report from naples.

lucy: frustration is running high. awaiting for paperwork and awaiting a vaccine. the pop-up clinic comes to a town on the outskirts of nichols -- naples twice a day. hundreds of people turn up hoping for up --an appointment but there are not enough doses. this is the only opportunity for many to get a covid-19 shot. sergio runs the center operated by the aid corp emergency. sergio: one of our problems is they oanizing the vaccination in a big vaccination center. not that many people here. they' poor italian they have no car to reach this place. they are out 50 kilometers. we decided to organize this vaccindation date but there are not enough space for more than 400 people at a time.

lucy: italy, once you're at the epicenter of covid-19, is beginning its recovery. residents here say they feel left behind. this was once a holiday destination for italy's southern elite but after becoming a hotspot for organized crime in the 1960's, its tourists and many residents left. a portrait of neglect, it is abandoned f thousands of asylum-seekers and undocumented people. abuld thomas is one of them. abdul: it is very hot but it is getting more hot every day. lucy: he says being on vaccinated makes it more difficult for him to find work here -- work. abdul: if i don't do a job, who will help me? lucy: when italy started its vaccination program at the start of the year, those without a social security number were unable to burqas --book a slot.

the rollout was included to join migrants in the homeless in june. on my booking systems can still be difficult to access. distrust toward the vaccine runs high. the focus is on outreach to those who feel uncertain. >> one of the difficulties is getting information out there. about what is on offer. accessing hard-to-reach people who do not have documents or access to health care. itan be challenging. there is a lot of misinformation out there about the vaccines, particularly astrazeneca. lucy: local authorities say there are around 35,000 undocumented foreigners in naples who need to be vaccinated. this region in southwest italy is one of the first to start vaccinating its undocumented people. a very small percentage of that

group has taken the shot compared to the wider population. that pattern is repeating across europe. there are an estimated 4.8 million unauthorized immigrants in europe. experts warn failure to tackle the low rates of vaccination in these groups can prolong the pandemic. our research and public health. >> the pandemic has exacerbated the inequities. factor in increased migrants risk of exposure to sars-cov-2 includes working conditions, living conditions --living in an overcrowd accommodation, lack of hygiene and sanitation, and lower level of accessibility to public health services including public health -- lucy: in december, the cdc recommended refugees and migrants be included and national vaccine strategies but

a small number of countries have put that into practice. france and belgium are amongst those who have prioritized these groups from the start. belgium runs mobile vaccine units to reach those without a permanent address. the belgian minister of immigration -- minis wise itter why is it important to vaccinate as much people as possible? the virus doesn't make you different between if you have papers or not. we need to vaccinate as many as possible to get rid of the masks and all of the covid measures that we have taken nowadays. judy: elsewhere, it lucy: is a different story. lucy: in hungary, nonresidents are barred. kris requires documents to register online. in germany, a law requires authorities to alert immigration services about undocumented people at risk of identification

means many steer clear. european governments need to do more to address issues of trust advocates say. he for a group pushing for greater cooperation. >> we have seen the importance of countries being very clear and very strong in their commitments to respecting the ght to data protection and confidentiality so that data that would become available because the person is able to be vaccinated would not be used for immigration control purposes or any purposes not related to public health. lu: europe is under pressure, facing a surge in case numbers of the delta variant. questions are being asked about the inclusivity of the member states health care systems. a fresh wave of migration of those fleeing afghanistan could add further strain. europe's vaccine rollout may be nearing its final stages.

many people are trying to get into the vaccine pop-up. they will continue to be overlooked they fear. i am lucy hoff in naples. ♪ judy: the british government is warning the countries fuel kites -- crisis will last for at least another week. gas stations across britain and had to shut down because of shortage of truckers has led to widespread lack of available fuel. a special correspondent malcolm reports from brighton on the southern coast of england the problems appearing to be one of the side effects of brexit. * malcolm: illuminated gas stations signs of light -- it is 2:00 in the morning and i

work --i don't have petrel and i better get some because this is the only time of night to get it. malcolm: that is if you don't want to waste time and more fuel during daylight hours waiting in a gridlock line at a gas station just having a delivery. sure enough, shortly after dawn, this facility was besieged. read and has 8300 gas stations -- grading has 83 hundred gas stations but more than a quarter and d. the fuel famine is becoming what the british regard as irritating. jessica kristi miller. jessica: my sister has been staying with me. my husband is broken his knee and i have to get into the hospital. it is getting expensive and taxi and alternative. malcolm: what is the real reason. jessica: it is brexit,

coronavirus, and a lack of happy to keep the same workers. malcolm: she is not alone in bremen -- blaming the crisis on brexit. many of britain's truckers came from eastern europe, feeling underpaid and unloved. thousands returned home during the pandemic. businessmen like --are losing faith in the competence of bastad to --boris johnson's government. >> foresig would have been useful. malcolm: it wasn't long before this devastation ran out of diesel. the government is spending this is a supply blip. it says it has a battalion of military drivers ready to go. it's also granting emergency visas. 5000 foreign drivers. business secretary test --

secretary: the situation is stabilizing and people realize -- malcolm: three miles away, the labour party conferee the opposition leader twisted the knife. >> prime minister, get a grip or get out the way and clear up this mess. malcolm: as the crisis continues, opinion polls suggest boris johnson is not preferred as prime minister. he blamed the media for the crisis. pm johnson: there was a misleading account of something which caused a big surge in public demand. we think the actual number of drivers was shorter in that sector is not very big. malcolm: britain is short of 90,000 truckers. without them, supply chains are in jeopardy. nick peters worried britain is

becoming a laughingstock. nick: the great promise was the u.k. would be free to develop a new, global power base and become this entrepreneurial hotspot. the met -- the fact of the matter is given the crises, the country is given with disagreements over how to go forward. people do not have faith in the government. we are in a desperate time in the untry. people are looking at us wondering what the heck is going on. malcolm: in brussels, european policy analyst sophie says britain's former partners are more concerned than amused. sophie: you pay politicians backed themselves into a corner and i cannot get out. they said we would have opportunities with brexit that didn't happen and what you see now is the negative consequences to not have freedom of movement. malcolm: the fear in britain is the shortage is a taste of things to come. it will be worse by perth --

christmas. for the pbs newshour, -- i am in brighton. ♪ judy: the national women's soccer league has suspended all of its weekend matches amid allegations of abuse including sexual abuse of players former coaches. back with a look at the widening scandal. reporter: the games were postponed out of the players demanded an end to what they call systematic abuse in the league. on thursday, north carolina's professional team encouraged fired their coach following reports he sexually coerced multiple players. according to a report this week by the athletic, he coerced one player to have sex with him, forced to to kiss one another, and sent unsolicited sexual pictures. another coach of the washington spirit was followed -- fired after the washington post

reported he abused players. this makes three coaches total. at the national women's soccer league has fired in its ranks since august. i am joined by molly handsy - -an investigative sports reporter. thank you for joining us. this leak is a few years old, less than a dede old. three coaches fed since august. why are we learning about this now? molly: december and so --the simple answer is players have not felt able to speak out until this moment. they are too afraid of losing their jobs and have not had the security. i heard players have been meeting the russians. because of verbal and emotional abuse but it took a player going on the record -- she was willing to speak out about what she endured and became the first player in the league to really say with her name what had happened to her. yesterday, this story about

paul riley had details that were absolutely harrowing that cut to the heart of the stuff players had gone through. the sexual coercion. it implicated the league and failures to address the problem and that angered a lot of players. reporter: we have seen outrage from the superstars of the sport. the women as national team members. the players union has come out and said the league failed us. the league officials knew about this going on and did nothing about it. what do we know about what officials knew, when they know it, and what they'd did. molly: in the case of paul riley, alex morgan posted emails on twitter that showed one of his victims had gone to the commissioner in april and begged her to open an investigation into the behavior. they had done a previous investigation in 2015 of him. the portland thorn found he

violated their policies. he was dmissed or his contrt was not renewed and he was hired back into the league within months. in this case, with lisa baird, she did not investigate the claims and went to the press. she cannot get the lead to look into them. judy: the league has caught all five games scheduled for this weekend. have we heard anything else from them? molly: i think lisa baird said she worked with the players to have this postponement but i think she is still absolutely under pressure. i think there are real questions about how riley was rehired. in the case of all the coaches fired the fear that were dismissed, they have faith previous allegations of misconduct. i reported rhie burke had been accused of abuse at the washington spirits and he was tired anyway. there is questions about how the coaches kept getting hired into these jobs judy: all of this has

unfolded in a matter of several weeks and like a lot of abuse scandals, once one story comes rward, the dam breaks and more people and more people come forward. is there a sensor could be more stories from within this one women soccer league must mark molly: e-- league. molly: as soon as players feel safe, they will come forward and i'm certainly looking and have heard of other stories. there is a lot more to come out and the question is how the league will deal with it. judy: one thing about the soccer league a lot of people might not know is they associate the superstars like megan rapinoe and alex morgan and carli lloyd and they play at their level but most of the women in this league are barely making a living playing a sport they love what does all of this tell us about the power dynamic at play and i kind of position these women are in? molly: w usl is restrictive on the rights of players more so than most professional sports leagues. there is no free agency of any

kind. players can be traded at any moment at any point no matter how long they played this is all in the context of most making less tn $30,000 a year. this year the pyers union race this campaign where they are all working second jobs or many of them are just to get by. more than most professional men's league, there is a dynamic where women do not have the economic power some were afraid to go on the record could not lose their jobs because they were making $30,000 a year and were simply economically not able to get by they lost their job. that is the reality that most of them are facing. judy: we will stick with the story. we will follow your reporting as well and as molly hensley clancy, lawrence --sports investigative reporter for the washington post. soccer'international governing body pple announced it has

opened an investigation into the sexual harassment allegations. ♪ judy: that is new york times columnist david brooks and jonathan capehart. columnist for the washington post. it is so good to see both of you. thankou for being here. what we are going to talk about first is the mess we were just describing. on capitol hill, they have gone day after day. they cannot come to an agreement. the democrats cannot come to an agreement on the president's priorities he himself was there today. why is this so hard to get done? jonathan: it is so hard because mocrats understand even though the presidential term is 4

years, the way the presidency is the states, it is really just one year. nothing is going to get done in washington on capitol hill, 2022 because of the midterms and the fact that the house majority hangs in the balance in 2022, maybe also the senate majority hanging in the balance. what is happening is democrats are trying to cram in every policy priority they have into that reconciliation bill and right now, no one seems to want to give up their pet project but we are getting down to the wire here where folks will have to decide what sort --is your number one pority. you can't have everything and how can we get to guess? you call it a mess and it is a mess but i think we are so unused to legislating that this is what is happening. usually it is between democrats and republicans.

it is hilarious it is just democrats negotiating with democrats. that is what is happening. judy: hilarious but david, for the speaker in the president and others, they want to get this done and it is not happening. david: yesterday was a setback for nancy pelosi. how many times have we seen her not control of her caucus? she was not in control and did not have the vote she thought she had yesterday. i have a feeling they're coagulating toward a solution and they take weeks but i think they will get there and the difference between one point $5 trillion in $3.5 trillion is big and that is why it is hard and i think one thing they clarified is what is this for? jonathan said this is for everything. it is a democratic agenda but they will not get everything. they will come down as lisa said and i have heard to $2-2. 5 trillion. how do we do that? i would say, what is this for? over the last 50 years, this is

for full twit out of college education and the poorer parts of the country being left behind. there is a lot of things that would redistribute money toward folks without a college degree that need help in the child subsidies, the jobs, and that would be a major accomplishment if we could rewrite some of the bad distribution that has happened over the last 50 years and show that we respect the dignity of those people who have been left behind. you can have a $5 trillion bill that shows respect for those left behind. that is an amazing legacy for any rty or president. judy: both of you are saying the president -- progressives are clear this is what they want because they put a label on anybody else but the moderate, more moderate democrats are saying it is too much money. what is at the heart of this division?

david: if you talk about them about supporting the bipartisan plan, they do. they want what's in the reconciliation bill. everybody has to focus on the content instead of the price tag. this is been a setback for nancy pelosi because the talks are ongoing. everyone had left washington and that would be one thing. if the president went to the hilt and talked to the conference from the reports i heard, he made it clear to them what he wants them to do. i think they will come to an agreement that makes it possible to vote on bipartisan plan still punting down the road the actual work on the reconciliation bill. the democrats need it but it is

the president's agenda. this is the presidt's plan. we are not the radicals. this is the president's plan. i think that will carry the day for this. judy: two of the figures we have talked about throughout the process are senator kyrsten sinema of arizona and senator joe manchin. the population of them together is 9 million people out of 330 million. how do they have this much clout? jonathan: it is a 50-50 senate and there are more moderates. behind their coattails. they represent -- joe biden was elected as the most moderate member of the field so there are moderates in the party were worried about the spending and joe manchin, when he says we should means test and not supper -- subsidized upper-middle-class people pre-k education but focus

our money on those who are most in need, that is not a stupid argument. if they have to bring it down by state, what we do medicare expansion? will he do climate change? we did progressives seem mad about right now, it seems like the climate change stuffed month -- might be on the chopping block. the worst thing to do is keep every piece of the bill but just make it cheaper. that would ensure they did everything badly. they have really got to make some priorities and if it comes to shove, joe biden has to say, here is a compromise i support. you will support your president or not. i think they will get to that. when i hear the democrats talking, i do not hear them erecting walls. i hear them getting to yes but in a way they get the modes -- votes. judy: do you agree the worst thing they can do is cut

do you agree they should cut everything? >> it depends on how you define cut. one of the options i heard, this is a 10 year plan. if you have that child tax credit or free community college. what if you scale it back to 5 yars. how much does it bring down the cost of the infrastructure plan? the chair of the democrats is all about, let's do a few things well. if you shrink the number of years of a program, carries over. it brings down the costs. if you focus on a few things and do them well that would bring down the cost. they have to do something. >> smoking mirrors and that. we know it will be permanent. you are not counting the money you are spending. from both

of you. how much president biden has writing on this. he has to get this done? fair to say? >> yes. absolutely. this is the presidents agenda. >> it's called the build back better campaign. he ran on everything in the bill. if the democratic house, senate cannot pass. get the democratic presidets agenda passed. what is their argument in 2022? and what is his in 2024? >> the weakness is confidence. if he can't be competent. he would be in real trouble. there is an election. two happening this year.

one, new jersey. we think we know. in the state of virginia. you have the former governor democrat terry mcauliffe basing, facing a republican who worked in private equity for 25 years. this is closer than the democrats have seen. democrats are nervous. we have a clip of the debate. >> there is an over and under on how many times she would say donald trump and it was 10 and you bust it throw it. >> who knows who will run for president in 2024. >> if he is the nominee i will support him pick >> i am sick and tired of all of them. they should follow virginia model. we got things done. we do things in a bipartisan

way. they have to stop doing chat. what you get is terry mcauliffe talking we need bipartisanship with glenn, he has been endorsed by president trump. he said he would vote for him if he were the nominee. do you see this? >> when terry mcauliffe won the democratic primary. i saw somebody close to him. i said congratulations. you won the primary. what is it looking like? the person said that was the easy part. glenn is someone that is not going to be easy. he always runs as if he is 50 points behind. the fact that terry mcauliffe came out of the gate understanding the challenge glenn can pose. it puts him in the right

mindset to tackle. the thing in the clip of glenn, donald trump is a motivator. that's exactly what terry mcauliffe will need if he is going to turn the slim majorities into electoral victory. >> virginia has swung pretty much blew. headwinds for democrats. what strikes me, the strongest argument, you are a republican. kind of. never trumper but forever. úkin the parties are unpopula. the candidates, i'm kind of in

kinds of not. amortized to virginia. they are busy doing a dance. beth effectively. you still have to think it is a democratic state. if terry mcauliffe loses it would be national headwinds. one of the questions, how much of a factor is president trump on the ticket a year after. how much of a factor is donald trump? >> factor because he is a motivator. people are angry at him for what he did to the country during his administration. also glenn youngkin's answer . if he is the nominee i will vote for him. if he is not, the republican will be the person. we have to worry about

republicans. donald trump is a major factor. one of the reasons terry mcauliffe is saying get your act together. he is running now. if they end up passing the bill he's going to be a proud democrat. every republican running from now until 2022. and 2020 for as long as trump is around. is going to be asked. what is your connection? >> it's going to be problematic. his success, moderate in the polls. you can say i'm from virginia. who knows what donald trump is about to do. he might say if you're not 100% with me i will come out against with me i will cou. out against a lot, does he want republicans to win state races? he has

chastised glenn youngkin and others who have not been sick the shipley embracing. soon becky was in georgia and said nice things about stacy abrams because brian did something he didn't like. we will leave it there. thank you beth. online, it can be a platform for humor. it can act as a tool for social advocacy. online we examine culture and calls for justice. visit our website. for more analysis of democrats division on infrastructure and increasing distrust in government. join our moderator and the panel on tonight's washington week. that is later this evening on pbs. to mars addition, how a

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