judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, a troubling report. employment numbers in the united states fall short of expections as workers continue to leave their jobs in the wake of the pandemic. then, a victory for journalism. the nobel peace prize is awarded to news editors from russia and the philippines for their reporting in the face of political repression. >> when the state's power is focused on journalists, that the way you fight back, is by doing your job. judy: and it's friday. david brooks and karen tumulty consider debt ceiling negotiations and new revelations about former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020

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the pandemic's grip on the economy. the labor department today reported u.s. employers added just 194,000 jobs last month -- the fewest since december. even so, the unemployment rate dropped sharply to 4.8% down from 5.2% in august. we'll have more on this after the news summary. the average daily number of covid-19 cases in the u.s. has dipped below 100,000 for the first time since early august. meanwhile, covid vaccinations have hit a three-month high. nearly a million per day, due in part to employers requiring them. and the centers for disease control announced late today that the united states will soon allow entry to international air travelers who have received covid vaccines authorized by u.s. regulators or the world health organization. reuters reported that the cdc indicated six vaccines approved

or listed for emergency use by the fda or the w.h.o. meet the criteria for travel to the u.s. the cdc must still outline rules for exceptions. texas's attorney general has asked the 5th circuit court of appeals to quickly reinstate its restrictive abortion law. on wednesday, a federal judge in austin ordered the state to not enforce the law that bans abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. in afghanistan, a suicide bombing at a shi'ite muslim mosque in the northern city of kunduz killed at least 46 people and wounded dozens more. the islamic state claimed responsibility. shattered glass and debris were strewn across the mosque floor as people worked to cover victims and remove bodies. >> it was around 1:40 p.m. all the muslims had gathered in the mosque for friday prayers and then i heard the explosion. i was nearby and what i saw was just like the end of the world. why is this happening to the muslims? vanessa: the islamic state has

been behind a spike in recent attacks since u.s. and nato forces left afghanistan in august. nearly 140 countries have agreed to set a global minimum tax rate of 15% on big multi-national coanies. the tentative deal would prevent companies like facebook and google from profiting in low-tax countries. president biden welcomed the -- said it will even the playing field for american workers. meanwhile, president biden also has rejected former president trump's request to withhold white house records from a congressional probe into the january 6 capitol attack. that paves the way for the national archives to release the documents to the house january 6 committee. meanwhile, mr. trump's former aide steve bannon said he will defy a subpoena from the house committee. u.s. coast guard investigators said today that the oil pipeline which leaked off the coast of southern california was likely struck by an anchor several

months to a year before last weekend's major leak. the coast guard released grainy video thursday that shows a bend in the pipeline, but experts say it is inconclusive. the coast guard said it will continue to investigate. no ships have been indentified so far. there's word president biden will raise the cap on refugees to 125,000 for fiscal year 2022. that nearly doubles what it was for the previous fiscal year. the increase will follow through on a campaign promise he made to take in more refugees after the cap fell to a historic low under his predecessor. two wealthy parents accused of buying their children's way into elite universities were found guilty today by a federal jury in boston. it's the first case to go to trial in the college admissions scandal that erupted over two years ago. 57 people have been charged in the scheme. federal prosecutors have decided not to pursue charges against

the white wisconsin police officer who shot and paralyzed jacob blake, a black man, last year. they said there's not enough evidence to prove the officer used excessive force or violated blake's civil rights. now we go to nigeria. security forces have rescued 187 people in one of the country's largest hostage liberations. the victims were abducted by armed bandits in the northwesrn state of zahm' fara. the hostages, including children and babies, were held captive in a rete forest for weeks. police officials said noansom money was paid. still to come -- the nobel peace prize is awarded to journalists from russia and the philippines. former white house rusa expert fiona hill explains what she calls donald trump's dangerous flaw. choreographer and activist bill t. jones returns to the stage in his largest work yet. plus, much more.

♪ >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: the u.s. jobs report for september showed covid continues to disrupt the labor market. government employment was far lower than expected. one key reason -- back-to-school hiring in public schools was lower than usual. but, the report also underscores other complications in the labor market. the unemployment rate fell to 4.8%, but that was due in part to people leaving the labor force altogether. job openings are at a record high and wages increased again last month, as companies tried to attract new employees. more than 25 million people quit their jobsn the first seven

months of this year. it's now being called "the great resignation." our business and economics correspondent paul soln explains. >> we don't want to do this anymore. >> they just didn't care about me anymore. >> i'm done. i am not working here anymore. i don't feel safe. paul: workers are quitting their jobs at the highest rate in 20 years because for many of us, the pandemic has prompted a professional reassessment. so says harvard business school's tsedal neeley. >> we cannot underestimate the extent to which people have experienced such stress, such anxiety and a ton of burnout in the last 18, 19 months. that is also driving their interest to say, i don't want this lifestyle as it is, i want to change it. paul: georgetown university's brooks holtom has long studied worker turnover. >> periodically, people experience shocks that cause them to reconsider how work fits

with the rest of their life. all of us for the past 18 months have experienced one of these shocks. paul: as microsoft futurist and slipper fan desmond dickerson told us back in the spring -- >> 40% of the global workforce intends to leave their job in this coming year. paul: and ever so many have, led by millennials. it's in the last year, the rate at which workers age 30 to 45 resigned rose by over 20%. some of the hardest-hit sectors -- health care and tech. the specific reasons? first and perhaps fore burnout. >> staffing is at anmo all-tim,e low. the morale is at an all-time low. it's traumatic. it's stressful. we're at a breaking point. paul: kaleena soorma quit her job as a patient care director at a new york city hospital in august. >> it's so distressing. you come to work and you have a skeleton crew and theyan't get

time off. they can barely even get a lunch break. they come to you, asking for mething and you have nothing to offer them. they feel so undervalued. it's hard. it's a tough time. paul: across the country, the nursing shortage has become acute. >> there was a point where we could not hire nurses who were below a bachelor's degree. now, just recently, they opened it up to nurses with an associate's degree. so, there's a desperation there. paul: the virus had other front-line workers on edge. >> when the covid-19 pandemic hit, it just kind of crystallized a lot of the ways that they don't care about employee safety. paul: sam weston used to work at the front desk of a hotel in superior, wisconsin. >> i actually took the initiative to, you know, place signs around the hotel lobby saying like, hey, wear a mask, hey, keep the six-foot distance. and my hotel management specifically tore those signs down and directly told me not to put those kinds of signs up because it would cause a panic.

paul: nancie picinich johnson was a librarian on long island, new york. >> my job was no longer so totally focused on librarianship. i started to feel like i was a mom every single day. pull your mask up. pull your mask up. oh, i don't want to wear a mask. well, i'm sorry, you can't come into the library without a mask on. paul: a related reason for quitting -- lousy employer treatment for lousy pay. alicia bowen made $12.50 an hour as a commercial cleaner in ohio. >> any time i haa family emergency, i was treated horribly. for example, my husband passed away in 2015 and i called and said i needed a week off and they told me how inconvenient it was and that it wasn't going to work out. it was just years and years of abuse and mistreatment. paul: the shutdown was the last straw. >> i had no backup work, nothing. my hours were cut in half.

i felt this was really unfair to me. i'd been working really hard for these people, sacrificing, and i quit. paul: oscar garcia was a teacher in el paso, texas. teaching online pushed him over the edge too. >> you spend less time teaching in the room and more time documenting contacts with parents, helping students, technical issues, and then hybrid, it became worse because you are now in the room with some students, but some students are still at home. i was so tired and you're going to hear that a lot from teachers how exhausting it is. paul: for chicago-area data analyst ricardo martinez, the crunch came from company demands while he worked from home. >> i've got one kidrying over here, another kid that's running by and just wants attention. paul: and thenn inflexible supervisor asked why he couldn't make an impromptu online meeting. >> and they're like, are you working? i don't understand. it like accelerated, accentuated all of the feelings i had from before about how work-life

balance worked at my work. paul: like many other millennials, martinez reassessed his priorities and resigned. so did minneapolis-area digital marketer mark senn. >> most my friends are preferring to work remote and have seen kind of a shift in that mentality. paul: librarian johnson and her husband, a paramedic, decided to quit their jobs earlier than planned for a new life on a farm in upstate new york. >> we've both been career people for our entire adult lives. and it just got to be too much. paul: but now, a question you may be asking -- how can so many people afford to rign? sam weston is living off savings as he pursues writing and a freelance career in filmmaking. >> i've been i've been investing actually in cryptocurrency a little bit. and that's been increasing the amount of runway that i have. paul: seems like a risky way to stay afloat. >> it is risky, but it's better

than working for somebody else who doesn't care for your health and well-being, and who won't give you a leg up to actually do something that feels meaningful. paul: and if he returns to the workforce, weston will be in a stronger position than before. at the end of july, there were a record 10.9 million job openings. it's an employees' labor market, says harvard's tsedal neeley. >> people have options and because they have options, their demands and their interests and their tolerance for things that are not aligned with their values on how they want to live their ves, they're going to leave and they're going to look for it elsewhere. paul: tech worker mark senn got a job right away, but like quite a few resigners, also has entrepreneurial ambitions. >> my new role has given me opportunities to work on my startup, make more money, and it's full-time remote. i'm able to be at home and really invest my space.

paul: data analyst ricardo martinez simply found a better fit. >> so i wound up finding a company that said we understand family comes first. i was able to make a little bit more money as well, but i was not really financially motivated. paul: nursing supervisor kaleena soorma? >> i resigned for a better position in pay and seemingly a better situation with the staffing and everything, more control that i'll have over that. paul: cleaner alicia bowen's sister hooked her up with a much better gig. >> she works for a bank and they had a cleaning position open at paying four dollars more an hour with a 401(k) benefits. and i don't have to drive my car. so i think what i did by quitting kind of did myself a favor big time. paul: how come you didn't ask your sister about other possibilities earlier? >> i don't know. i was scared that i wouldn't qualify for anything else or scared that it wouldn't work t, i get stuck in this. i feel like i don't deserve any

better and i do. paul: and in a reopened economy, employers now scramble to find workers. their challenge? a labor force that no longer accepts business as usual. for the "pbs newshour," i'm paul solman. judy: the norwegian nobel committee often appears to make a statement when it awards its annual peace prize, and 2021 is no different. two journalists, maria ressa of the phillipines and dmitry muratov from russia, were recipients in a time when the free press is under global attack, and the truth is too often hard to find. nick schifrin explains. nick: for a journalist whose government convicted her of crimes to try to force her silence, today was validation.

>> when the state's power is focused onournalists, that the way you fight back, is by doing your job. nick: for an editor whose newspaper lost six journalists to murder, today was a symbol of journalistic sacrifice. >> this award is for our fallen professionals who gave their lives for our profession. nick: maria ressa was a cnn correspondent and "time" person of the year who started the independent news outlet, rappler, in the phillipines dead. -- >> shoot, and shoot dead. nick: rappler exposed filipino president rodrigo duterte's drug war and its brutality. the u.n. calls it an extrajudicial, murderous crackdown that's killed 12,000. duterte also waged war on the media, and last year shut down the country's largest broadcaster. ressa has faced 10 arrest warrants and still has seven legal cases pending. >> we are fighting for facts. nick: today in a conversation with a rappler reporter, she

said those in power, and technology companies, maintain control not just through the gun, but by manipulating the pen. >> when we live in a world where facts are debatable, when the world's largest distributor of news prioritizes the spread of lies laced with anger and hate and spreads it faster and further than facts, then journalism becomes activism. the nobel peace prize committee realized a world without facts, means a world without truth and trust. nick: dmitry muratov is the longtime editor of "novaya gazeta," an island of independence in a sea of media silenced or controlled by the kremlin. other independent russian journalists have been detained, and outlets banned or declared "foreign agents," the same designation given to the country's leading opposition figure alexei navalny. >> if i were a member of the nobel peace committee, i would vote for a man the bookmakers bet on. but, i think this man has everything ahead of him, and i am talking about alexei navalny.

nick: "novaya gazeta" was in part started with money won by mikhail gorbachev for his 1990 nobel peace prize. today, at first, the kremlin congratulated muratov. but then, the justice ministry labeled more radio free europe/radio liberty and bbc journalists "foreign agents." yesterday was the 15-year anniversary of the murder of anna politkovskaya, a "novaya gazeta" journalist who investigated russian military and intelligence abuses. today, nobel committee chair berit reiss-anderson said that kind of stifling of freedom of expression can stifle peace. >> they are representatives of all journalists who stand up for this ideal in a world in which democracy and freedom of the press face increasingly adverse conditions. nick: to talk about today's nobel peace prize, i am joined by joel simon, executive director of the committee to protect journalists, an independent organization that promotes press freedom worldwide.

welcome back. we just heard the chairwoman of the nobel committee say that journalists around the world face increasingly adverse conditions. so, do they? joel: absolutely. this is the worst moment we've ever seen. record number of journalists imprisoned around the world. every indicator of press freedoms suggested is in decline almost everywhere. states are deploying violence against journalists. you have the example of jamaal khashoggi, the washington post columnist who was murdered by the saudi government, dismembered, and disappeared. there's an unprecedented wave of violence against journalists. we have never seen anything like it. nick: let's zoom into maria ressa's work and the philippines. the president says he will step down. was the crackdown pernal or

could the crackdown continue because he has helped it be institutionalized? joel: he has used systematic campaigns of harassment. he has used soci media to spread lies and disinformation. hes waged a frontal assault on critical journalists including ressa. that is an institutionalized practice that will probably outlast him and something we have seen not just in the philippines, but in these modern authoritarian states around the world. nick: there has been an unprecedented attack by the kremlin in russia on any dissent and critical media over the last year. as it worked? joel: it has worked. one of the things you have to recognize about russia is that while the violence against journalists has declined -- dimitria maratov has talked about the warlike casualties his news organization has suffered. the level of violence has

declined somewhat in russia because the government has become much more adept at deploying, kind of bureaucratic and legalistic attacks against journalists. the favored strategy these days is to clear journalists foreign agents for receiving any sort of funding from outside of russia. then, putting onerous restrictions on them that basically makes it impossible for them to operate. so, repression is very much alive in russia. it has just become more institutionalized. nick: maria ressa talk to multiple times today about the importance of facts and the business of facts that we journalists are in. why is it so important that we need to be able to have a common set of facts when we increasingly see efforts that controlling political power is actually controlling information? joel: we are in the information age. we are involved in a millennial struggle over who controls

information and who gets to determine our reality. so, journalists are very much a part of that battle and that is why we are seeing such concerted attacks from governments and other enemies of free expression around the world. you know, if you don't have information, if you don't have facts, then you don't have accountability. you don't have the ability to participate in any sort of political process to determine your own future, to determine your own fate, to expose corruption, to defend your rights. all of these things depend on our ability to access independent information. if you look around the world, look at the challenges we face that the nobel committee could have recognized. we are in the midst of a pandemic. we are confronting climate change. i think with the nobel committee was saying was these global problems are enormous, but we cannot really fight back against them without essential information.

that is what journalists provide. nick: thank you very much. joel: thank you. it is a pleasure. ♪ judy: russia expert fiona hill captured the nation's attention two years ago when she testified during president trump's impeachment hearing. now, she's out with a new book, "there is nothing for you here." i sat down with her this week to discuss her own journey to becoming a presidential advisor and why she fears the u.s. is heading down a dangerous path. fiona hill, thank you for joining us. congratulations on the book. fiona: thank you so much. judy: people know you as an expert on russia and on europe, but this is a book that is built around your personal story. the daughter and the granddaughter of coal miners who

overcame obstacle after obstacle to end up advising presidents of the united states. there was advice your father gave you when you were younger that you turned into the title of the book. fiona: that is right. when i was leaving high school in 1984 in the northeast of england, there was a massive unemployment crisis, especially for youth. 90% of kids leaving school had nothing to go on to immediately. my dad was basically talking to me about the future. he basically set, look, if you want to make something of yourself, pursue an education, there is nothing for you here. you have to go somewhere else. because my hometown, former mining town, a town that built up around associated industries, like many places around the u.s. in the midwest or appalachia, was basically an opportunity desert. people would have to leave in droves to basically get ahead in life. that was the sad reality of the

time. judy: ts is a book of you overcoming obstacles. whether it was to getting education, getting a job, getting ahead in this almost all-male profession. what were the lessons that you took away from that? fiona: there is a series of larger lessons, but i did find opportunity. obviously, i had some amazing opportunities and a lot of career success. what i took away was the importance of mentorship and importance of assistance, to give you a hand up. not a handout. i didn't really do all of this on my own. of course, i worked hard at school. i was very focused on my studies. i wanted to pursue an education as far as it would take me and it took me to harvard and man other things. all the way along this educational path, i had a grant, a subsidy. i graduated with up any educational debt at all.

it takes a lot of effort to be able to get ahead. it is even more difficult now at the beginning of the 21st century. judy: how many young people would you say today, whether it is the u.s. or great britain, have the opportunities that fiona hill had? fiona: a lot less than there should be. you would expect all the decades since i graduated high school, since 1984, that there would have been a steady progression and improvement of people into education and opening more doors for opportunity. there has been an expansion of education, but also, a massive expansion of educational debt. there are not the grants and subsidies that needs to be. education is becoming a burden in many respects. it is putting education out of reach for the people at the lowest income brackets. what we are seeing in the u.s. in particular, but also increasingly in the u.k., is that education and that line whether you have gone to a committed college or four-year

colleges really determinant of who you are. it's a determiner of econic class and basically the way you will look and where you will likely live as well. judy: the reason so many people know you is because you were testifying in those first house congressional hearings into former president trump's impeachment hearings. why did you go to work in his administration? fiona: first of all, it was in the interest of public service. i had already been in previous administrations, both the bush administration and the obama administration, working as the national intelligence officer for russia. i wrote a book on vladimir putin after i left my previous service. we were at risk of being exploited. we saw that in 2016 with a sophisticated influence operation that was launched against the u.s. democratic system and against the u.s. presidency.

i wanted to do something to address that. of course, things did not quite go as i had hoped itould. national security issues ended up being pushed downwards and we saw ch more of the privatization of foreign policy. the efforts to manipulate national security policy for domestic purposes that was happening throughout the whole of that for years. judy: ultimately, what was your assessment of donald trump as a person and as a president? fiona: as a person, he was extremely vulnerable to manipulation. that became a problem for him as a president. what i mean by that is yet a very fragile ego. he was very susceptible to flattery and taking massive offense, as we all saw, to any kind of criticism. on a personal level, that was a pretty dangerous flaw. when you are the president of the united states, it becomes a fatal flaw because president trump could not disentangle himself from many of the issues

that were the critical ones to address. so, when people were concerned about russian influence in the united states election, he only thought about how that affected him, for example. when people talked about the changes in the u.s. economic structure, he would always think first of all about how that might affect him and how might people vote for him. as a president, he was uniquely preoccupied with himself, not with the country. that, of course, led to all the problems of intelligence risks even higher because the russians or others from the outside could also manipulate those tendencies. judy: if you could answer this -- is the world safer or more dangerous because of his presidency? fiona: i think it has become more dangerous because he was also extremely divisive. president trump was very focused on getting reelected and w not going to do that by appealing to all americans. he wanted to appeal to a particular base of people who were attracted by his personality, attracted by the things he said he was going to

do f them. that is on different parts of the economic scale, socioeconomic lower levels. he said he was going to fix the economy and they would have jobs. the top end, millionaires and billionaires, he was going to protect their fortunes from being from those circles himself. judy: what i find striking is you were not so concerned about donald trump being concerned by vladimir putin, being influenced by him, as you were concerned about the united states following down the same political path you have seen russia follow under vladimir putin. fiona: that is right because russia went through a similar economic period and political period in the 1990's. russia had its equivalent of the great recession. at the end of that decade, president boudin comes in and says i will fix everything, i will make russia great again, which is what president trump said in 2016. what putin did was tie himself up into all of these politics.

he extended his term in office by amending the constitution. donald trump has also said that he wants to be president in perpetuity. he would not accept the loss the 2020 election. he says he has a right to come back because he was never kicked out of office in the first place and he's been spreading lies about essentially his own role in the events we saw over the last several years. january 6, for example. judy: do you believe our democracy is in danger as a result of this? fiona: i think the danger is increasing by the day, because we constantly are seeing other political figures trying to emulate trump. we are now in a situation where lies and deceit have become the coin of governments. judy: it is a disturbing conclusion in this book. fiona hill, thank you. fiona: thank you. i appreciate it. ♪

judy: it's been a whirlwind of a week here in washington, with the u.s. supreme court kicking off its october session, a new report on election interference being issued by the senate and a temporary deal reached on the federal debt ceiling. to help us make sense of it all, we are joined by brooks and tumulty. that is "new york times" columnist david brooks, and karen tumulty, columnist for the washington post." very good to have you both with us. jonathan capehart is away. happy to see you both on this friday night. let's talk first, david, about what they have done in the congress, the senate. they have kicked the can down the road. enough republicans gave the democrats the votes they needed to go ahead and move the debt ceiling decision to december. is it going to be any easier? david: no. this is what happens when politicians play hand grenade with the nation's solvency.

it is as if the political campaign is running lifelong now. it is all about positioning for the next election. so, the republicans would love to see the democrats on a straight party line basis expand the debt ceiling and then they can blame them for all the spending. mitch mcconnell was backing them up to do it. he sort of blinked. i think there are two main reasons. one, there was some threat the democrats were so panicked by this, they were going to change the filibuster, which the republicans desperately do not want them to do. there was some policy -- possibility they were trying to ease pressure on joe manchin who's taking heat from progressive democrats. some possibility that chuck schumer did not have 50 votes to raise the debt ceiling, in which case we would have gone into insolvency. we will go through all this again in december. judy: is december going to be different? karen: december is going to be different because they will also in that same little window have

to vote on the continuing resolution. this is the bill that keeps the government operating. so, we may have within a few days of each other, these two difficult votes. one to keep spending and the other to keep borrowing. judy: karen, -- david mentioned this -- some people are saying, including former president trump, saying mitch mcconnell folded. what happened? karen: i all along was a little skeptical that mitch mcconnell was going to be willing to take the fall for making essentially the whole world economy collapse. he had some leverage, as too often happens in washington. there is a deal right before the deadline. i do think we ought to think about whether we ought to have this whole exercise of raising e debt ceiling. it is something that is meaningless in the context of controlling spending because you are basically paying bills for

spending you've already done. there's a budget process, an appropriations process. if you want to have fiscal discipline, that's where to do it. i think they ought to suspend the debt ceiling indefinitely. judy: which is an argument treasury secretary janet yellen could make. david, are there clears winners -- clear winners and losers or is the picture muddied? david: i would say muddied. each party got a little bit of what they wanted. the democrats got the vote. and the republicans got the idea that they were going to through this again. everyone is a hypocrite in matters of procedure. whether it is the filibuster or debt limit, it all depends on whether you are in the majority or minority. in 2016, the democrats were very happy to let the republicans take the fall, including e biden. now that she was on the other foot, so that all 180 degrees change to the positions. this is how it always is.

you do what is in the best interest at this moment. there are no principal players. judy: does one side come out stronger or not? karen: no. it is really a situation -- people seem to think this debt ceiling vote is some kind of political lbility. i have never heard any campaign where it becomes an issue or the subject of an ad. the size of the social spending package the democrats are talking about, that is likely to be -- figured in the 2022 campaign. this is just kabuki theater they do over and over again. judy: moving on to something we just heard fiona hill, who's written a book about her experiences, david. that is a number of developments this week about election interference in 2020. you have this disturbing report, from the senate judiciary committee about the lengths

former president trump went to to get the justice department to overturn the election result. you have state after state sang they want to reform the way they count votes the way they run their elections. how worried should the american people be about all of this? david: on a scale of one to 10, 7.5. that is pretty worrying. two things. one, we keep learning more and more that trump really wanted to ovturn the election, take away the election. and we also learned throughout the administration, throughout some of the republican secretaries of state, there were honest people that were not going to let him do it. we learn from the senate report, he was threatening to fire the attorney general. there were enough people in the justice department that said we would all at once if you do this. the more dangerous thing is what happens in the states now. we are setting ourselves up fo r 2024 if he runs again and if he's anywhere close.

this time, he would not have just a couple of weeks to prepare to take the election away, he would have used. -- years. the party seems focused on this process. judy: where should the concern be focused and all of this? there are so many moving parts to this. karen: the pattern of the trump presidency is with these revelations you always hear something else happened that is both shocking and unsurprising. and even predictable about donald trump. and, there were few people that stood in the way. dan quayle, who talked to mike pence about his lack of powers to overturn the election on january 6, was not on my bingo card for saving democracy. but next year, we are going to have the midterms. these races in the states where governors may be replaced by governors who would be fe with letting partisan hacks control

elections, secretaries of state, election officials. i think the danger in 2024 is going to be a lot higher even then it was in 2020. we may once again have donald trump back on the scene. judy: i would say whether he's on the ballot or not. david, you read that portion of the senate report where for hour after hour, there was an argument inside the white house with then president trump saying we need to replace the acting attorney general in order to overturn the election. i mean, they had to argue him down from -- on this. karen: the most chilling quote, jeffrey rosen, the acting attorney general, "the one thing we know, you will not do anything to overturn the election." that is what the president said to his acting attorney general. david: the good news is there were enough. what strikes me, and this is the

underlying problem, anytime rudy giuliani or anybody can come up with a crackpot rationale to do this, they seized on it without any evidence. there was never a moment where people in trump world said that theory is a little wacky. they seized on everything. that is what happens when you are in a post-truth world. judy: if president trump is not on the ballot, there is still concerned that people who espouse his philosophy and who deny the election result in 2020 could be pushi some of the same. karen: exactly. these are people running up and down the ballot. it has become practically an article of faith in the republican party, that if you want to have a shot at ective office, that you have to say these things that really undermine the integrity of the electoral system. david: 59% of republicans say believing the election was stolen is central to the identity of rublican. it is not free markets, being

socially conservative. it has gotten to trump positions. the identity of the party has fundamentally changed from a conservative party to a trump party, at least among half of the party. judy: there is the supreme court reconvening this week. a lot of eyes watching this institution because they are taking up hot button issues -- abortion, gun rights, and others. maybe affirmative action. what are you looking for from this term? people are starting to say if the court does what we think it could do, this is going to look like a partisan court. karen: it certainly -- i think this is the term in which the heavily conservative supreme court is going to truly show us who they are and what they think. i think the biggest issue on the plate is whether or not they overturn roe v. wade, either with this case that is coming their way from mississippi or

the new texas abortion law is likely to land in their lap again pretty soon. judy: we are always watching the supreme court, david. but, is this time different? david: i think it is a little. a 5-4 conservative majority but john roberts really cares about the court, the dignity of the court. he can now be in the minority in a lot of these cases. he could be on the left side because he has been hesitant to turn over precedence. there seems to be five that are much more willing. he might turn out to be the minority player and there would be nobody to keep precedence for legitimacy of the court. public opinion polls on the court are not in freefall but serious decline, the number of people who think it is a legitimate and trustworthy institution. the supreme court justices are out on the road saying they are not partisan hacks. they are not, but they are conservatives and progressives, and they vote like partisan hacks. in the big cases, the votes are

protectable by who nominated them. judy: at a time where the country is so divided politically, i mean, it matters whether the court is seen as partisan or not. karen: absolutely. again, the fact that these justices are feeling the need to go out and say publicly that they are not partisans, that in of of itself -- in and of itself physics ordinary. -- extraordinary. we will see how these big cases, other hot button issues like guns -- and again, this is a relatively young court. this is the court we are going to see basically for a generation potentially. david: these people have faith and governing institutions. when that goes away, everything is up for grabs whether we talk about the budget, the election, the court, people will lose faith in the legitimacy. judy: that is a really grim outlook. david: reality.

judy: on this friday not. david brooks,aren tumulty, thank you both. karen: thank you. ♪ judy: now, a story of choreography and community, as a renowned dancer and choreographer continues to [ music ] now a story of choreography and community as a renowned dancer and choreographer looks hard at who we are. jeffrey brown visits with bill jones for the arts and culture series, canvas. >> one man, bill jones tells the story of himself and his country. >> brutality, unspeakable horrors. >> he is joined by a small group of dancers who enact and

move through that story. then, by some 90 other members of the larger community, filling the space and moving as a crowd. >> to be black is to be beautiful. >> it is called deep blue sea. >> pursuit of the week. it is thrown around all the time. we the people shall overcome. politicians use it all the time. who is we, considering how fractured the country is and has been, from the beginning. >> reporter: jones has asked the questions as he and his partner arnie first formed a company. even as fame grew, their world was devastated by aids, which

would take the life of sane and so many others, in 1988. jones would go on to create 150 dances. the waters directly addressed the loss of his loved ones. it is now the subject of a new documentary, called can you bring it. it is directed by roslyn black, a former director . he has continued to take on subjects of american life and history, as in a 2009 work on lincoln. his choreography for spring awakening garnered tony awards. last spring, amid the pandemic, he premiered in the vastness of the park avenue armory with a dance of death distance and loneliness, capturing a moment. >> they don't remember. we just don't remember. >> he returned to the armory

with deep blue sea, a monologue that transforms a space into the sea itself. in it he recalled he recalls reading moby in school, years later realizing he forgot the cabin boy, pip, who loses his mind at sea. >> pip gets so frightened, he jumps into the water. >> jones saw parallels in the losses of young black lives today. >> was it tre'von morgan? was it michael brown in ferguson? those things begin to happen so regularly. in society, they have never stopped happening. i was putting together strong reactions. this character was collateral damage on this ship.

>> another character, bill jones , his parents were migrant farmworkers in florida and new york. >> the young boy that i was felt the world was full of possibility. i don't know if my mother and father felt that, but i did, that's what they wanted for me, a world full of possibility. now this piece is asking what happened to that young boy, in me, and how are they doing for you, as well? >> are those comments on american history? >> i want them to resound with you. are you moral? do you give a ? >> i don't remember. >> remembering, rearranging, putting something back together. we all remember, as human

beings. i would like to provide you an opportunity to rediscover how that function exists in your life. it has to be entertaining enough and full of enough safar surprises, so that you are alert . i want to believe, as doctor king believed, that you are basically fair and kind. >> the life of a is still sadly crippled by the medicals of discrimination. >> martin luther king jr. is another touchstone to question where we are in our country, today. >> art making is resistance, but i don't know if we are responsible people for a city, a hospital, or managing a tv station. but you need us there, because we are willing to actually ask the questions and look for answers in unexpected directions.

>> the audience was required to be vaccinated and masked. for jones, issues go deeper. >> my question seems almost banal, sitter considering covid has shown us there is a way, not in a positive way that you are looking at. we are the heir to literally microbes, vicissitudes of health and politics that we can barely name, but there is something else about the ability to congregate willingly and handle each other in public. there is reason for this, during the pandemic. >> i've seen you describe the pandemic as a second plague. what makes you think about making art now? >> even though i am an atheist,

i do believe there is an over level of consciousness. art can do that. it cannot take away all of people's pain, but it might do something that is just as good and give people the continents with which to endure. can you make something that invites people in, to have a shared experience, and keep living? that's it. can you encourage people to keep living? >> bill jones retired as a dancer 15 years ago. he is performing now, he says, because this work required his full commitment, and he wanted to gather and help lead this larger community. i'm jeff brown, at park avenue, in new york. >> his work is such a gift. >> next on pbs, we look at the

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