>> good evening, everyone, i'm amna. tonight, abortion battle. the supreme court quickly hears a restrictive texas law which remains in place. dana brooks and jonathan capart how cuts to the president's spending plan with the plan ahead. one of cuba's most prolific painters get his due in the united states decades after the revolution cut his career short. >> he is saying, yes, there are rules. but the rules there to be broken. and this is my contribution. >> all and that more on tonight's "pbs newshour."

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interim. that law bans most abortion in the states after six weeks of pregnancy. to explains what comes next to the court, we turn to amy howell. thanks for being with us. there has been a lot of back and forth. clarify for us, what exaly did the justices decide to to do today? >> so the one thing they didn't do, is they did not at this point grant the biden administration's request to block enforcement of the law. they said we're not going to act on that right now. we're going wait that's until the oral argument on november 1st the second thing that they did was they granted" by the biden administration and a group of texas abortion provideers to leapfrog the pro -- provideors to leapfrog the proceings and to act on their challenges now without waiting for the court of afeels act which is a relatively rare

maneuver amend the third thing they did, the case before the justice when they hear oral arguments on november 1st, the question is -- appears be narrower than the broad question of whether or not this law sb-8 is constitutional. it's not crystal clear from the orders that the justices issued today. but it appears whether or not they can block enforcement of the law in the first place and on this unusual enforcement scheme that the law has that depew tieses private individuals to bring lawsuits in state court to against people who provide or aid and abet abortions. anchor: this wasn't the only abortion case they were set to. there was a mississippi state law as well. that was set to come before them november 1st. but this november 1st review,

this expedited review that is extraordinary fast what does this say to you about how the court is viewing this issue? >> it says a couple of things. obviously, they very rarely grant this procedure. it's known as ser -- rare -- certiary before judgment. this is the first since bush-vs. gore back in 2000. it suggests that they want to resolve this question of whether or not these challenges by the federal government can go forward that they're perhaps not ready to weigh in on the constitutionality of sb-8 at this point they have as you said this lawsuit challenging the mississippi law that they're going to hear oral argument in december that's a challenge to a mississippi law that bans almost all abortions after the 15th week of pregnancy. it's a case in which the state

of mississippi has asked the supreme court justice to overrule roe vs. wade establishing the fundamental right to abortion but without this procedural wrinkle of this enusual enforcement scheme that is present in texas law. amna: i'll be following your work as you cover it. thank you for your time. amy: thanks for having me. ♪ >> i'm vanessa ruiz in for stephanie sy. we'll return to the full program after the latest headlines. pfizer announce its low dose covid vaccine is nearly 91% effective in 5 to 11-year-olds. federal approval could come within days and the c.d.c. has added moderna and johnson & johnson vaccines to be -- the

approved booster list. >> we are ready to get shots in the arms of step tens of millions of americans. boosters are available at 80,000 locations across the country includinging more than 40,000 local pharmacies as well as thousands of doctor's office, community health centers, rural health clinics and community-based vaccination sites. >> president biden huddle with leaders trying to wrap up a deal on his build back better agenda. progress progressives are negotiating it. nancy pelosi said that "a deal is very possible." a federal juryingly new york has convicted leb parnis of making illegal contributions. he used money from a russian tycoon to support republican groups including one backing president trump.

separately he aided julianna -- giuliani's effort. giuliani is still under investigation. and china insisted today there will be no compromise on the status of taiwan. and it also warned the u.s. to watch what it says. last night president bind said the sus committed to defending taiwan if the chinese attack that seemed to go beyond a long-standing u.s. pledge to help taiwan defend itself the white house quickly said there had been no change in policy. defense secretary lloyd austin sounded a similar note today after he spoke after a nato meet ing in industrial. >> nobody wants to see across straight issues come to blows. certainly not president biden and there's no reason that it should. we'll continue to help taiwan with the source of capabilities that it needs to defend itself. and so we'll stay focused on those things. >> beijing claims taiwan has

part of its territories and has sent record numbers of airplanes into its air space. virallists demanded urgent action on climate change ahead of the upcoming u.n. summit in scotland. thousands of protestors including hundreds of young people crowded berlin's bridenburg gate. [speaking foreign language] >> i think especially because we are in the process of forming a government in germany, we really have to send out a signal that the climate targets which are so urgently needed will not be softened again that's what we're afraid of. anchor: actor alec baldwin expressed shock and sadness after a shooting in his movie set. baldwin fired a prop gun the film cinematographer was killed and the director wounded. the "associated press" reported this evening, that baldwin was

handed a loaded weapon by an assistant director who indicated it was safe to use moments before the actor fired the fatal shot. court records independence date that the assistant director did not know the prop gun was loaded with live rounds. the investigation is ongoing. and an audit of wisconsin's 2020 election result has found no evidence of widespread fraud. a nonpartisan review was commissioned by a state legislative committee. a series of recounts and court rulings have confirmed that president biden won wisconsin by 21,000 votes. the justice department is launching a new effort to stop redlining, the practice of banks refusing loans in minority jair -- areas. the focus will be on mortgage lending and practice of racist policies. on the border, crossings reach and all-time high as an alarming new report details claims of

abuse by immigration officials. david, but and jonathan capeart discuss the spending bill. a cuban lens one of the country's most celebrate avanguard painters gets his due in the united states and much more. >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and from arizona state university. >> as we reported, covid-19 booster shots for both moderna and johnson & johnson are eligible for populations. the f.d.a. also authorized mix and matching vaccines and boosters to help viewers understand more about what they should consider, i'm joined by dr. lena wen, always good have

you here. i just want to ask you about something else related to young children and vaccines we know pfizer submitted data to the f.d.a. showing its vaccine is highly, highly protective for children age 5 to 11. what does this mean for f.d.a. approval for children getting the vaccine that young? >> well, the f.d.a. is going to be reviewing all these data on tuesday when they meet. and then the c.d.c. will be reviewing it the week after. right now, the data are encouraging. they're showing that in addition to the vaccines being safe so far in the 2000 or so 5 to 11-year-olds, the vaccines produce a strong antibody response. we have data coming out of pfizer that showed the vaccines protect well against symtomatic disease almost 91%. it's going to be up to the f.d.a. to weigh the risks and benefits and to also say are they going to make as full-throated a recommendation

as they will for older individuals as in might they make a limited authorization saying that high risk children get the vaccine? we don't know. we shawl see when they review the data next week. anma: americans have three possibilities d there's new information about mixing and matching if you got the moderna or the pfizer vaccine meaning that the duel mrn na doses, should you stick with the same brand for a boost per you get one? >> most likely, yes. so under almost all circumstances we should say that the pfizer, moderna vaccines are interchangeable. there's no particular reason to switch from pfizer to moderna to one of the others. and really, there are very few circumstances that they should be switching to a j & j vaccine. but let's say you have a severe reaction to pfizer and moderna. or let's say that -- that you also have had a prior case of

myocarditis in that case you might considered switching to a johnson & johnson vaccine. but sticking to the same brand sounds just fine. but if you got moderna and you got pfizer for the first time, it's also ok too. >> what about the johnson & johnson vaccine? how should people who got the single johnson & johnson vaccine look at boosters? >> this is very different. i'm one of the 15 million americans who got one dose johnson & johnson vaccine for women under the age of 50 which is the category i am in, i would not recommend that they get a second johnson and johnson booster. i would recommend that they receive one of the pfizer or moderna vaccine, one of the mrna dosesecause the johnson and johnson has been associateed with a very rare but very serious blood clotting disorder. this is not a run of the mill blood clot. s that very serious disorder that can be fatal. again, very rare. but for younger women there is an option. there is another option of

pfizer or moderna that is not associateed with this particular side effect. and so for those individual, i would definitely recommend a second mrna dose instead of the j & j booster. i should mention that the f.d.a. are essentially forecasting that the j & j vaccine should have been a two-dose vaccine from the start unlike pfizer and moderna where only individuals in a high-risk category should be getting a booster six month avs their first two dose, if for the johnson & johnson vaccine anyone after two months should actually be getting a second dose of something. >> so there's a much broader category for people who got the johnson & johnson who should be getting a booster. you mentioned the guidelines of who should be getting the boost we are the moderna and pfizer vaccines. tell white house? >> two categories. there is one category who should be getting a booster right now. and there's a much broader group

if they so choose to the group that should go right now and make an appointment those are individuals 65 or older or 50 and older with a chronic medical condition who got the fire or moderna six months ago. they should make the moment in the next couple of weeks. then anyone over the age of 18 who has occupational exposure or a high risk in a living situation, they can choose to get a booster six month avs their pfizer or moderna vaccine? consultation their physician. very different from johnson & johnson. etch who got the j & j vaccine if they are more than two months needs to get their second dose now. i have already gotten my booster dose. >> it's complicated stuff it's important stuff. we thank you so much for walking us through it as people make plans for the weekend ahead. thank you very much for being with us. >> thank you.

>> new federal numbers showed detention and arrests and america's southern border hit and all-time high in 2021. william bringham explains. william: according to data from u.s. customs and border protection, more than 1.7 million migrants were detained a the border in the 2021 fiscal year. 61% of those were expelled under title 42. about a quarter of cases were repeat crossings. those numbers come as human rights watch released international d.h.s. files of more than 160 reports of alleged misconduct and abuse of a asylum seekers by d.h.a. officers. these incollided claims of molestation and physical and verbal abuse for more on all of, this i'm joined by gill, commissioner of u.s. customers border protection under president obama. and before that, he was director of the office office of national

drug control policy. greet have you back on "the newshour." let's stewart this human rights watch report. i should indicate, this is not human rights watch reporting, these are internal documents they got of complaints that were made of this awful behavior by d.h.s. agents against them. what do you make of that? >> a couple of things. one, you have to understand that it wasn't until 2014 that customs and border protection, ashley got their own robust internal affairs that had been outsourced. and so you need accountability. you need investigations. and you need to be able to do discipline. and that is still an ongoing issue. but the number of complaints is certainly concerning. you have to remember too the border patrol has over 20,000 agents. they have had literally during the time that those numbers came

forward millions of encounters with people crossing the border illegally. some are just families. and some more than willing to surrender immediately. but there are other people that aren't quite as willing to surrender. >> i hear everything that you're saying, but is -- the critics would argue that this tells us something about the culture within side those agencies. what do you make of that? >> so i think there's another side to the culture of that agency. and i got see it first and in the sum over 2014 with 68,000 unaccompanied children being handled by the border patrol. i saw them bringing t-shirts and clothing from their own kids at home. i saw them microwave waving burr rhettos all without the support of other parts of the u.s. government. so you know, there is certainly that. remember too that the border pa stroll one of the most diverse particularly with hispanic

officers in the country. so there's -- there's probably only one degree of separation. so i think that these complaints are serious. they need to be investigateed and where appropriate action needs to be taken. >> let's turn to this seeming record number of people that are crossing. why do you think this is occur occurring? biden's critics say this is this administration warm-hearted language that has invited this large number of people to come. >> well, i think as the nominee for customs and border protection has said in his hearing the other day, the law needs to be enforced, but it needs to be enforced humanely. and frankly during last few years under the trump administration, i think that

there was not the attention being paid to enforcing the law humanely. and i think that is beginning to change. if that is a result of president biden and -- and -- and his seemed openness to people coming into the country, but again, the law is still the law. >> another argument that is made by critics of this administration is that a lot of the migrants coming across the border are coming with covid-19 and they're carrying enormous amounts of drugs with them. is there any evidence that those accusations are true? >> well, certainly the covid issue has changed the way the border patrol and other parts of c -- d.b.p. they lost over 50 employees that have died as a result of covid. i think part of the drug issue though is that it comes through our ports of entry the drugs that killed people in

this country, methamphetamine, fentanyl comes through the port of entry. they aren't being carried by people trying to come across the border. >> she in part blamed some of this an asylum process that is broken under the prior administration that it wasn't functioning that well. and that that is partly why we are seeing this issue on the border. is that an accurate criticism? >> well, the asylum function hasn't worked very well for a long number of years. the number of immigration judges. the backlog of close to a million people awaiting asylum hearings. the other thing that i think the general public doesn't understand is that most people who apply for asylum never reach that threshold. they're denied asylum and therefore their return to the country. but if they can't get the asylum

hearing, that really tells you that the process is not working very well if at all. >> all right. gill, former head of u.s. customs and border protection. thanks as always for being here. >> thank you. amna: well the fate of president biden's domestic agenda seems be reaching a critical point. at stake, some of the president's top social and spending priorities. and that brings us to the analysis of brooks and capehart, that's david brooks and jonathan capehart columnist nests for "the washington post." good to see you. >> good to see you too. amna: there was some news in the senate this weep weekend and from the president last night. on wednesday, senate republicans blocked the voting rights bill for the third time on thursday.

the very next day president biden spoke at the 10th anniversary of the dedication of memorial. and he said that. >> today the right to vote are under unrelenting assault from republican governor, attorneys general, secretary of state, state legislators and they're following my predecessor, the last president. -- into a deep, deep black hole and abyss. >> what's the president prepared to do about it? >> first, let's be clear about something the president's remarks yesterday were not new. he has been -- he's been sounding this alarm for that's -- this is probably that's the third time he has talked about voting rights in this way. yes, as an existential threat, almost apocalyptic. but the problem is that's all the president can do. all of the power resides in the senate. and it resides in senator

manchin and senator sinema and the other senator who is don't want to reform the filibuster. that is the only way this is going happen the third failure of the voting rights spill a bill that senator manchin put together tried as hard as he could to get 10 republicans to vote for it. and no republicans voted for it. this wasn't a ve on the bill this was a vote to allow the bill to be debated the world's most deliberative body won't debate a bill on anything. but won't debate a bill on voting rights. >> so david, senator manchin was behind this new bill, right? it had been paired down so he could back it. so republicans could back it. he went do try their support and they didn't support it and president biden indicated that the strongest support that he might be willing to reform the filibuster to move this

ahead. he might be willing to do that but senator manchin? >> i can't read senator manchin's mind, but he's been firm on protecting the filibuster. i would be surprised if he wanted to change that even given the -- to the voting rights stuff. it sends a terrible signal rhetorically where we stand as a country given voting discrimination but i don't think we should get over the top on this there are two big myths about voting rights and voting laws. the first myth is that when you change it, you depress turnout. this has been studied -- well, a lot. and -- [laughter] and the overwhelming evidence is that you can do what georgia did and make it hard tore vote. voters vote. they find a way to vote. and so it just is not true that changing the law will depress turnout by and large. second, the second myth which is believed by both republicans and democrats which is if you increase turnout, that's somehow

good for democrats. supreme study it. there's a book out and they look at centu risk that of data on higher turnout and lower turnout elections. it doesn't help democrats. it has no partisan effect. and so we've got these mythologies how turnouts work and they cause people to do in the case of republicans pretty terrible things. >> ok. i need to jump in because this isn't just a turnout issue here what's happening in georgia, what's happening in texas. they -- they're make it hard tore vote. if you do jump that hurdle to be able to vote, they might not count your vote. it might get discard. if your vote does somehow get counted and this is most important thing, the law in georgia and i also believe it's also in texas that if they don't like the result of the election, they can change the result of the election. and that is what makes what's

happening in the states right now super -- well -- terrible and why the president is speaking in the way he's speaking. it's not just supressing the vote. it's not just trying to squash turnout. it's about change free and fair elections because republicans because that's who's doing this, republicans afraid that they can't win any other way. >> is there any way this moves forward with democrats unless they change the filibuster rules? >> i don't see how. amn na: the president did give this town hall. he he spoke very, very plainly about any number of things he said ending it would have to wait until after his spending bill passes. we should note that speaker pelosi said that 90% of that bill is now agreed to and written. i just want to bring people up to speed on what we know about it, on the build back better proposal. the price tag is $2 trillion. free community college has been removed. and the latest news is that

senator sinema has been opposing the income and corporate tax rate increases. we know this because the president spoke very plainly about independent and i wondered as you watched him what, did you make of how he's laying it all out there. this is what i conceded. >> i was stunned that he was so open. because they're still in the middle of the negotiations. everyone source on the hill says a lot can change. but they he said what's in what,'s out. >> maybe as a way to prepare people are going to be disappointed. what happened in this bill when they first drafted it, is everything got everything. it was christmas in rich people's homes. like everybody got everything. and now they have to make some change. they've made some choice. some choices are quite unfortunate. they put at risk the child of the tax credit which i think is the single best thing in the whole bill which really does reduce childhood poverty to a great degree. some choice that's the wander into could be very good choices they lost the core of the climate change. but senators like ron widen, democrat from oregon has struck

a carbon tax. it would help reduce carbon emissions but also raise revenue to pay for this stuff. i still think a lot is under negotiation. and what i'm looking for is is there a theme to what they live in and what they take out? do they have an overall theory of the case. my view, we've spet the last 40 years to rich beam college degrees. we should have a bill to funnel people who are in the working class. and that would be my theme, decide what comes and goes. right now, i'm not sure i see it. >> i'm trying to play a quick clip about the way president biden talked about paid family live and community college. take a listen. >> how much time off would parents actually get under your proposal? because at one point you talked about 12 weeks. >> yeah, it is down to four weeks. the reason it's down to four weeks, they can't get 12 weeks so far, mr.manchin and one other

person has indicated they will not support free community college. >> jonathan, he can't get it done. i just can't do it but he mentioned that one other person that we assume is senator -- >> he says one other person. >> it must be senator -- >> what do we understand about her opposition? >> they don't know what she wants or what she doesn't want. right now it seems like we're in the 11th hour. and the fact that the president was so specific and in the weeds about what he's doing and what he wants and what is in the bill tells you just how engaged the president and the white house have been all this time. but i think the sense of urgency that the president has and that democrats on the hill have is that he's going to europe for the climate conference. and he wants to have something in hand. but also in lurking in the background is the virginia governor's race on november tennessee. terry mcauliffe has been saying

get the bill done. get it done. he wants something done so he can go to folks and say, look, this is -- this is done. democrats -- democrats are at large know how to govern and they can get things done. those are the two deadlines. >> you are making my segways. schools have become one of the message points particularly for republicans. he's frame it as a fight over government's role in the class rooms and parent parent's rights to be involved in the classroom. really more about how race and racism are taught more than anything else. david, i want to ask you who is he talking to? >> a lot of parents and terry mcauliffe made a foolish state who said parents should not be in charge of their kids' education which is going to set a lot of parents on edge. s that very bad issue for the democrats. a lot of people don't vote on. but if people feel their kids

are being indoctrinated they're going to get really angry. and they're getting real estatey -- really angry. and they will rebel. what's the underlying cause of what's happening here is that people in the education school they've gone left the median parents has not gone further tore the left so there's a culture gap in the values the way we talk about history, sexual education and issues and there are gaps. and that gap is creating this conflict over whose values are going to be in the classroom. it's become a culture war. and do i think that parents are extremely sensitive about this. >> what do you make about this. >> glen yunkin are filling that unwith fear what glen is doing is talk about critical race

theory. let's be clear about sometng. critical race theory is not taught in elementary schools, middle schools or high schools. if it's taught at all, it is taught in law schools. yes, terry walked right into it by saying what he said at that debate. and handed them an issue. but the fact that we're having this conversation about critical race theory, it's become a catch-all for all of the history that needs to be taught that makes white parents uncomfortable. and you put your finishing on it. this is a conversation about race. and yunkin is using race and fear as a way to garner votes, pull out trump voters, pull out squishy republican voters who might not want to vote for him but they view this as an issue, as you know, something that

makes them angry. you're going to try to indoctrinate my children as opposed to trying to teach your children the true history. that's what this is about. and there are people who are afraid of that. >> this is clearly resonating. those were parents on the floor turned sheriff's knee are we gog to see more of this? >> this will be a gigantic issue. and i have a lot more to say about it. [laughter] >> let's reconvene soon and continue that discussion then. gentlemen i can't thank you enough. jonathan capehart. david brooks. >> thanks, amna. ♪ amna: one of cuba's celebrateed paints, mariano rodriguez was an artist whose exposure was cut short after the cuban @revolution. but now, there's a resurfacing of his work at boston college.

special correspondent jared bowe n has this story for our art s and culture story, canvas. >> mariano was an artist, mining the beauty of the women and the abundance of the land. >> he looked to everything that was kind of descriptive of his experience of his world in cuba. >> especially embodied throughout his career in this recurring feathered image, a rooster that came synonymous with mariano as he became to be known. >> rooster is a bad boy. it's about male virility. and he never lost the santas and the female. but it was the way he reinterpreting the theme. >> she's the the curator at boston college's mcmullen museum

of art. >> it's pretty amazing. >> it's an explore ration on how he focused on the same subjects but through myriad styles over his 60-year career. >> he created his own unique radical style. >> launching his careers in the 1930's. mariano looked and traveled to mexico for inspiration. >> mexico had been this kind of center to national conversations on the beauty of the indigenous people. the beauty of what was simple and what makes mexico unique. >> but the mexican influence was short lived when mariano discovered new york. that's where he had his first exposure to artists like matisse and picasso and where his work began to bear threads of his own. >> looking at the museums and these different styles that he was asorbing and adapting and

translating into his own language, he also was exposeed to what was beginning to be this nascent movement of about tractism in the united states. >> he returned to his themes of nature and women, but through an abstract lens. and this is where mariano left off in america. >> as u.s. relations with cuba disintegrated after the cuban revolution which he support, his work faded from view in the u.s. >> emotional lirks this is very important. it's very deep feeling for me -- emotionally, this is a very important. it's very deep feeling for me. alejandro is his son. he saw some works for the first time like this sprawling crucifixion painting. >> i saw my father beside me. it's complicated. separate the father from the artist. when i'm in this room, those persons come together.

>> rodriguez says his father was always working even when he wasn't. >> always working. he's a workaholic in the arts. he has the pencil and the pen until dinner. and he's always drawing. this artist, 24 hours. >> the painter's marriage began to scramble and he found inspiration in francisco goya who dwelled in darkness. elizabeth calls them the grotesques. >> what is he doing with the grotesques? >> that's what i asked myself when i saw this really hallucinatory figures. the voyeurism, thele exaggeration. i think he was beginning to ask himself, what am i about? and what are my paintings about when he talks about the influence of goya. he says goya taught me how to be

free in my painting. and i think he wanted to be free of what he had been doing before , and i think he wanted to explore something radically different. he was looking at both attraction and repulsion. >> moving towards the end of his life in the 1970's and 1980's, mariano found artistic solis in sense wallty his fission becominger material. saying for the once solidly learned rooster and what he called mariano cubans merging together as a whole. aesthetically it's the final variation, a far cry from any other point in his career. >> he was saying yes, there are rules, but the rules there to be broken. and this my contribution. >> i'm jared bowen in boston for the pbs newshour.

>> on our book shelf, to judy woodruff's special conversation with newshour's old friend and former long-time media correspondent terrence smith. his memoir "four wars, five presidents" is out this week. >> terry smith, welcome back to the newshour. >> well, thank you. i like the way you're keeping up the place. it looks fine. [laughter] judy: we do too. we do too. so the title says it all. it's easier to name the stories that you didn't cover over the 50 years you were a reporter than it is to name what you did in new york city politics. the middle east. you were in vietnam. washington for many years. what was it about this life of yours that made it what it was?

>> you know, it's an interting question. one, my desire to go overseas, to be a foreign correspondent. started early when my parents took me to europe when i was 11 or 12 years old. and i looked around and i became fascinated by how people -- the different ways people work out their lives. solve their problems, do different things. and it just -- it -- it gave me a wanderlust that has never gone away. >> and you were the son of a famous sports writer, red smith. so you came from a family of newspaper people. some -- we see some people turn away from whatever their parents did, but you embraced it. there are so many great stories in this book. and i've been thinking back when you were just a cub reporter. you were in new york city. and cover it -- there was a meeting about who was going to run for mayor. and you were listening through a

vent? >> yep, >> in a hotel. >> that's called journalism that's hard-hitting journalism. they insisted that i bug the room. when in fact, by happen answer the, it was in a hoe the conference room. i was in the next room. and i heard lourdes coming through the vent. and those nelson, nelson rockefeller's raspy voice and john lindsay's very patricianian yale accent. you couldn't miss. you knew who was saying what. i was taking notice. >> you were still a young man back in the united states, robert kenzy assassinated. and you get the word. you're in jerusalem. and you're told that the person who they believe has done this is sir hand sir hand who has family in the west bank. >> his father. >> you go and find his father. >> so i go to his father's house

at 10:00 at night. it's dark i knock on the door. i go in. i explain who i am. a reporter for "new york times." and i ask him if he's heard about this assassination of robert f. kennedy. he said, oh, yeah, i heard about it. terrible. terrible story. i said did you hear the name of the assassin? and he said no. i went to bed. i didn't hear a name. so i said you have five sons, right? write down on my reporter's notebook, the fourth name, sir haan, sir haan. he switched like a metronome. he went over and he said if he did it, he should hang. he should hang. >> one of your many overseas assignments was to be in asia, in southeast asia. at one point, you were -- you

had a trip to cambodia. later, you were in vietnam during war. and a moment that truly changes american history. >> i certainly did. i spent the years as a bureau chief in vietnam. but in november in november of 1968 and i interviewed prince sianuk the head of state. and he told me word for word exactly what was going to happen in vietnam that we would have to go. that the vietnamese would not give up. that it was their country and not ours and we would be wise to pack up and go home. this is 1968, judy. this is tens of thousands of lives short of what happened by 1975. and yet he predicted it on the money. i put it in the new york times. >> you reported that.

>> and no doubt it was red and the white house and washington paid no attention. >> anything about covering presidents and people at that level, that has left you thinking there's something good about our democratic system or not? >> it's a mixed bag, you know that judy. but yes and no. i'm afraid is the right answer. the five presidents in the title. beginning with richard nixon and jimmy carter and then reagan. clinton and bill clinton and george w. bush. president george w. bush not hw. all interesting, all different.

vvery different. and the president sea evolved at that time as well. as you well known. that was extraordinary. then comes donald trump and rewrite it is whole book. totally different. >> after 20 years at the new york times you then spend what 20 years in broadcast television news. you were at cbs, covering the white house again among other things. and then you ended up interviewed by jim laer our beloved cofounder here. the best job you've ever had? >> absolutely. jim had gotten a terrific grab to create a media unit inside this broadcast. the news hour. to cover the news like news. >> what is your assessment today in 2021? >> absolutely more vital. absolutely more troubled. the blending of opinion and fact in reporting that's supposed to be straight.

is a problem. the news literacy in this country. the burden of knowing whether what you hear is truth has shifted to the reader or the viewer to decide and so i think that's a tremendous change. that's a function that editors once performed. and then of course the internet and the absolute spread ofinformation. in one sense, we have all this information at our fingertips but in another sense, it's hard to discern truth from fiction. and that's been especially true in the last five years. >> one other thing that's changed, terry. is and you know this as a foreign correspondent because back in the day it was all white men who were overseas. >> overwhelmingly. >> oversea covering the war. now it's mostly women.

>> doing the best work. >> teresa ward. >> why do you think it's taken so long? >> now the people you just mentioned did the most, to me the most courageous and outstanding reporting coming out of kabul as the united states fell and pulled out. look who was doing it. they were doing it in a world that is not very accommodating to women. >> terry smith, thank you so much. the book is four wars, five presidents a reporters journey from jerusalem to saigon. thank you for being with us. >> judy, a pleasure to see that you're keeping the lights on and making it all go. >> thank you. >> among the 200 or so breeds

of goats, yes that's right. goats across the united states. the san clemente island goats are one of the rarest. as dennis kellog reports, one nebraska man is doing all he can to save them. >> reporter: welcome to willow valley farmless. we're going to take you on a goat walk. >> reporter: tom is a modern goat herder. the goats are like a family to him. he has gotten to know them after he left his job to take care of them full time. >> i'm part goat. maybe that's my calling to do this. >> reporter: there's 750 of these san clemente goats. threatened with extinction. >> i like to keep these guys as

feral as possible. >> there used to be as many as 18,000 of them after they overran the island's natural eco system most were rad radicated. sean and his partner carol are doing all they can to save the breed. >> i think it's very important these animals are able to survivor on their own for 100, 125 years so they know how to survive. >> reporter: sean and brad are working with breeders all acrossamerica. >> do you feel a sense of responsibility, like you're the last hope for this species. >> yes, because if not us, who. what we're trying to do is on a larger scale. not just breeding. but on a larger scale to show the world that these goats can have a value. and that's why we want to do a

commercial goat dairy. >> they believe it'll be the first goat dairy commercial. they are going to have a store front. >> if they can actually become a dairy goat those who want to make goat boutique cheese, the butter fat is very high and i think it actually will make a really high quality cheese. >> they would also like to build an education center where the main subject would be sam clemente island goat. >> bring different groups and educate them. whether it's children, at risk children, lgbtq. bring in local elementary school kids and let them see the local cheese of the area. >> right now we're focused on

beef. we're in nebraska and you eat cows. but we also see our demographics changing. and a lot of cultures do eat cheese. >> reporter: whether it's meat or cheese, they're looking to prove people wrong. >> we're just inching our way. >> why are you doing this, what are you doing that for? why are you spending all that money on it. and i think one day i will prove them wrong. when i have that goat dairy up and you and i are sitting there eating goat cheese, maybe drinking a glass of wine we'll toast to this interview and say told you so. >> for the pbs news hour, i'm dennis kellog. near gretna nebraska. >> before we go. make sure to join moderator sindor and her panel of reporters back here on

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