♪ judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on "the newshour" tonight, calls for action. demands for gun safety reform grow more insistent as uvalde residents lay some of the slain to rest. then, the cost of the conflict. european leaders meet to discuss another round of sanctions against russia as some countries resist an embargo on russian oil. and looking back. retired duke men's basketball coach mike krzyzewski root -- reflects on the state of the ncaa and his long, illustrious career.

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this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. stephanie: we will return to the full program after the latest headlines. funerals have begun in uvalde, texas, one week after a gunman killed 19 children, two teachers at an elementary school. two 10-year-old victims were remembered today in the first of 11 services this week. meanwhile, state police said a teacher had closed a door that the gunman ultimately used get inside, but the door did not lock.

we'll return to this later in the program. a special counsel probe suffered interconnections between russia and the trump campaign suffered a blow today in its first courtroom test. attorney michael sussman was acquitted of lying to the fbi. he had been accused of concealing ties to hillary clinton's 2016 presidential bid. he reported possible links between the trump business organization and the russian bank. after the verdict, while leaving the courthouse in washington, sussman claimed vindication. >> i told the truth to the fbi, and the jury clearly recognized that with their tremendous verdict today. i'm grateful to the members of the jury for their careful and thoughtful service. despite being falsely accused, i'm relieved that justice d toha theup couiled in my case. block a texas law on social media censorship today. it aimed to prevent social media

platforms such as facebook and twitter from censoring users sed on viewpoints. the court voted 5-4 to put the lawsuit on hold while a lawsuit plays out in lower courts. the original mask mandate issued by the cdc required masks on public transportation and in transit hubs. the justice department contends the agency was within its legal authority. president biden called in the head of the federal reserve today to talk about the worst inflation in 40 years but pledged to respect the central bank's independence. the president met with jerome powell, who recently won confirmation for his second term as chair of the fed. >> my job as president is not only denominate highly qualified individuals for that institution but to give them the space they

need to do their job. i'm not going to interfere with their critically important work. the fed has dual responsibilities. one, full employment. two, stable prices. stephanie: meanwhile, inflation in the euro zone hit a record 8.1% annual rate, largely due to a nearly 40% spike in energy prices. russian forces kept up a relentless onslaught in eastern ukraine today. ukrainian officials said that russians now controlost of the city of donetsk. thousands of civilians are trapped there without power. in an op-ed in "the new york times" published this evening, president biden said as outraged as he was over the russian invasion, he would not seek president putin's ouster and he did not want to prolong the war. in southwest iran, authorities have cut off internet access to silence public anger after a deadly tower collapse. the tragedy killed 34 people, triggering anger over government corruption and negligence. on sunday,tate tv showed an

official trying to calm the crowd near the wreckage site for -- before being shouted down. later, police moved in and violently shut down the protest. european union leaders -- still to come, a former attorney for the clinton campaign is found not guilty of lying to the fbi. european leaders need to discuss another round of sanctions -- european leaders meet to discuss another round of sanctions targeting russian oil. >> this is "the pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: as we reported, president biden met with federal reserve chairman jerome powell asked -- as part of a white house push aimed at addressing the high inflation rate. i spoke with the director of

white house national council. what can you tell us about the conversation between the president and chairman powell? >> well, they had a productive meeting. what the president communicated to the chairman was that he not only respects the independence of the federal reserve that he intends to honor it and give the federal reserve the space it needs to tackle inflation. the fed has a primary role in fighting inflation, and it is well on its way to do that, and the president wanted to be clear that unlike some of his predecessors, he was going to respect their independence. >> is that part of a strategy for the president to in effect shift responsibility to the fed for inflation? >> no, it is not about responsibility. it is about fighting inflation in a responsible way. the president laid out a plan. the first element of that is to give the fed the space it needs. importantly, that has not always been the case. that was not true with the prior president, and when you have a president that seeks to politicize the fed, you will get

worse economic outcomes, but the president is also focused on steps that he can take and can work with congress to take to lower costs for families to try for families during thisrdable transition and also to lower the federal deficit. we know if we lower the federal deficit, that will ease price pressures in the economy. he has laid out specific steps in both of those areas as well. this is about the president saying his top priority is tackling inflation. one of the things he can do is strengthen the independence of the fed rather than politicize it. judy: did the men also discuss other steps a president can take? we saw in that "wall street journal" op- the president wrote that ran today where he talked aboutupply chains and infrastructure. i'm asking because these things may be important in the long run. they are not intended to help inflation in the short one, though, are they? >> the meeting was broad ranging

and talked about a range of topics including the current and future economic outlook, but when you talk about the types of steps intended to address the cost of gas at the pump as well as groceries as well as the other everyday costs the typical american is facing, the president is focused on both steps we can take that are immediate and the steps that are medium-term, so something like releasing barrels from the strategic petroleum reserve -- that happens right away. something like working with farmers to try to grow more crops this year is something that would help to ease food prices right now. but you are absolutely right. some of these steps are more medium-term, but the sooner we take them, the more impact we can have on the economy. building affordable housing will take months to do, but if we start now as the president directed, we will see more easingp housing prices over the course of the gear and into

next. we are focused on the medium-term but immediately as well. judy: the average gas price is more than $4.60 a gallon. >> absolutely. the president knows that is on the minds of typical families as they pull up to the gas pump, and it is creating anxieties as well. this is an unfortunate consequence of putin's decision to invade ukraine. you can see from when putin began amassing troops on the border of ukraine until now, the price of gas at the pump is up about $1.50. the actions we have taken are focused on trying to keep putin from filling his war machine with revenues from oil and gas, but at the same time, we are looking for every step we can take to try to boost supplies outside of russia. at is what the strateg petroleum reserve meeting was about and that's why the president is focused on this constant diplomacy of working

with european allies and other oil-producing countries around the world to do everything we can to get other supply on the market. judy: as you know well, there are economists who were saying well over a year ago that inflation was looming and it was coming. one of those was former treasury secretary larry summers. is the white house -- is the president now acknowledging that he was late -- the white house was late to address inflation? >> i think if you look out on the global landscape right now, it is clear that inflation is a global problem. we saw inflation in the eurozone hit 8.1% last month. we saw in the u.k., inflation hit 9%, and that is because the principal drivers are a pandemic shutting the economy down now compounded by putin's invasion of ukraine. i think what is striking if you look across the globe where

everyone is dealing with elevated inflation is that you will see the united states is actually well positioned to address prices had on because of the strength of our economic recovery. we have seen the hisric labor market recovery. we have record business investment, new business creation right now, and household balance sheets are doing pretty well. that is a function of the strength of this recovery. we do now have the tools to take on the price increases better. been better if the white house -- judy: would it have been better if the white house had seen this sooner? >> if you look at the steps we took, they helped to generate this historically strong recovery, and most analysts looked at this as the principal driver of inflation was not fiscal policy but was instead the issues i just addressed. where we find yourselves now, the united states has those economic strains behind us. we are able to focus on fighting those price increases, and i think that is with the president

is focused on now -- how can we make progress? how can we continue to build on these historic gains? if we follow through on these policies, there's no reason why we cannot. judy: thank you very much. >> thanks, judy. ♪ judy: the latest chapter in the ongoing investigation into the origins of the trump-pressure -- of the trump-russia probe came to an end today in what is considered a defeat former president trump's assertions that the probe was biased against him from the start. >> that's right. a jury here in washington, d.c., today acquitted a lawyer named michael sussman on the charge of lying to the fbi. this was the first case brought to trial by special counsel john durham, who was appointed during the trump. -- during the trump administration.

former president trump long hoped durham would uncover behavior by officials who investigated him, his campaign, and alleged links to russia. for more on what today's acquittal was all about and what it means going forward, i'm joined again by carrie johnson, who covers the justice department for npr. great to see you again. this trial and the case itself was very complicated for those who look into it. you have been there all two weeks during the actual proceedings. can you give us a sick synced -- a cyst synced -- can you give us a succinct recap of what the charges were against him? >> i will do my best. this is a complicated case that boiled down to a single count of making fal statements to the fbi in a meeting that the defendant had with then fbi general counsel jim baker in september 2016, just six weeks or so before the election. what the special counsel team

were alleging is that sussman lied in order to get this meeting and told baker he was not appearing on behalf of a company or client but rather he wanted to bring allegations about strange links between the trump organization and a russian bank to the fbi out of the goodness of his heart because he was a good citizen. durham in fact argued to the jury that sussman was motivated for partisan political interests and wanted to use the fbi. that was the heart of this case. >> i see. right, because i remember sussman, his law firm, did represent the clinton campaign. he also represented a software executive, who that's how he heard about some of these alleged links, but this whole case does not sound necessarily at the core of what durham was principally charged with looking into, right? >> when john durham was appointed by then attorney general bill barr during the trump administration, it was a time when then president trump was talking a lot about the people who investigated him and making a lot of sharp and shadowy allegations about the

origins of the investigation, and durham was supposed to get to the bottom of all that bring to justice any fbi employees who engage in wrongdoing and also investigate members of the intelligence community who might have engaged in wrongdoing. in this case against michael sussman, the fbi was an alleged victim of sussman's life, not the perpetrator of the crime -- and to some lawyers who have been following these cases, that seemed pretty far afield from durham's mandate. >> as i know you might remember, when the original filings of this case were posted, conservative media seized on those filings as evidence that we now can see that the clinton campaign was spying on the computer networks of the trump campaign. this was all somewhat debunked in real time, but did any of those allegations end up in this case in court at all?

>> no, none of that ended up in this case in court. judge cooper told prospective jurors before the trial began that we were not going to relitigate the 2016 election. hillary clinton was not on trial. donald trump was not on trial. he kept a lot of that rhetoric out of what the jury actually heard. the jurors basically said -- the ones we talked to outside the courtroom today -- that politics played no role in their deliberations, and that was not something they considered over the six hours they were behind closed doors thinking about this case. >> presidentjury's decision, wrt -- took this jury decision pretty hard, writing in part, our legal system is corrupt, our country is going to hell, and michael sussman is not guilty -- that last part sarcastic. >> he has one more trial coming

up. as far as we know, that is going forward this fall. >> carrie johnson of npr, always good to see you. thank you. >> my pleasure. judy: let's return now to the aftermath of the shootings in uvalde, texas, and some of the questions the country is grappling with. as we reported, there will be funerals and memorials for the victims over the next two weeks. as the communities and families grieve, many are asking about the police response on that day and what should be done next. >> over the weekend, the u.s. department of justice announced it is launching an investigation of the law enforcement response

to the uvalde shooting. to learn more about why that is important, i'm joined by the professor at the harvard kennedy school of government and former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. she is also author of a new book called "the devil never sleeps: learning to live in an age of disasters." welcome back. thanks for being with us. this department of justice probe we think will start soon. why do we need it? what are some of the key questions they will try to answer? >> not only this is being done by an office that deals with trainings and grants and best practices. what they essentially will do technically is just review what was the policy response and why did it seem to fail so miserably? almost every police officer in certainly this jurisdiction is well aware of what active shooting protocols are. they need to rush in and respond. we now know the best way to

address an active shooter is to eliminate the threat, essentially shoot back and try to eliminate the threat. everything else can happen after that. there was clearly a breakdown in that protocol. was it a justifiable breakdown or what happened that led to this? we s in disaster management that the lessons are written on the headstones and that we have to listen to the dead, and i think that is really important right now, especially with 19 children dead and of course, also two teachers. each of them has a story to tell about what happened in that room, and it is incredibly painful and will be incredibly emotional. not all of them died in a single moment. not all of them died in the same place. to get essentially that chronology of what happened in that room so that we can learn for the next time because unfortunately, there will very likely be a next time. our standard in disaster management is -- could we have made things less bad?

we do not pretend that a situation in which a person who wants to shoot children in a classroom is in any way good, but could you have made it less bad? i think it is important to focus on that. in the end, it is essential that we look at the public safety response, but we have already failed miserably are your children. we cannot lose sight of the real problem here, which is a gunman wanted to and successfully entered a classroom that would kill children that quickly, that horribly, just on a random day in america. >> the more we learn about the gunman, we saw that there were warning signs that were missed. when we talk about concrete steps, what kind of things could be done to avoid this happening >> there could be the legal solutions, right? national red flag laws that permit family members to come

forward and tell officials that a person is in trouble or may be a harm to society so that their guns are not accessible to them. it could be universal background checks or changing the age at which you can purchase weapons like this from 18 to 21. those are the legal solutions. the societal ones are also out there. these people live in communities. they are online and are expressing their desires. they are not hiding it. in the texas case, this is also true. we need people to feel confident to step forward, to understand these are not jokes, and to have social media platforms monitor this better, to know that how anyone can joke about this at this stage in american history is beyond question now. we need to come forward and assert agency over this kind of activity. otherwise, it is going to keep happenin >> thank you. >> thank you. ♪

judy: the european union stepped up pressure on russia today by pledging to cut back on ruian oil purchases, but the prospect of ending the war soon look grim as both sides look to punish each other. >> near the epicenter of russia's mom apartment, today's target -- an apartment building while residents slept. overnight, russians fired rockets overnight into residential neighborhoods. she wants to show how lucky she was to survive. >> i was sleeping here and i was not impacted by the strike. i was probably born under a lucky star. >> her apartment shattered by russia's attempts to terrorize the population despite a common religion and language. independent researchers say the donetsk region could soon fa a new russian ground advance.

on state tv, pro-russian separatists showed off their handiwork and removed flags left behind by ukrainian soldiers who recently were treated along with some of their american weapons. -- who recently retreated along with some of their american weapons. ukraine has been using a soviet era multiple launch rocket system and pleading for the american ver.si ic ou. tff consideration, but president biden said yesterday he would not provide the longest range version. >> we are not going to send ukraine rockets that would let them strike into russia. >> today in kyiv at a press conference with slovakia's president, ukrainian president zelenskyy criticized what he called a shortage of weapons. but he vowed to evict russia from ukraine. >> our plans are clear. we will de-occupy our entire territory which historically belongs to us and in accordance

with all international laws. this is our plan. >> the plan in brussels and the european summit finalized a deal to limit russian oil imports. today's deal exempts those pipeline deliveries after a compromise demanded by hungary where 65 percent of all oil is russian. hungary's prime minister said he fended off the demand to ban all russian oil. the debate in europe over russian energy extends the definition of victory in crane. -- in ukraine. earlier this month, french president macron said it would take decades for ukraine to join the european union, and russian priorities would need to be considered. >> in the future, we will have to build peace. let's never forget that. we will have to do that with both ukraine and russia sitting around the table.

>> at the annual world economic forum in dumbo's, -- in albo's -- in day most -- in davos, former secretary of state henry kissinger even urged ukraine to cede territory occupied by russia since 2014. >> [indiscernible] >> the most eastern european countries disagree. poland's president told ukraine's parliament, don't give one inch. >> if ukraine is sacrificed for holy calmness for political and -- for economic or -- hour economic or political reasons even a centimeter territory, it will be a huge blow not only for the nation but for the entire western world. >> for more on what victory in ukraine should look like and today's sanctions in russia, we turn to a member of the european parliament who has held a number of senior positions in ukraine's

government. welcome. what is your response to europe's steps today to ban all sea-based russian oil coming into europe after compromise with hunry? >> i would not call it a compromise. hungary has simply use his veto power to extract a concession which i think will be used to make money. hungary actually has a pipeline to t adriatic sea and could import its oil from there, but it chooses to import it from vladimir putin. it is another sign of hungary breaking eu's and nato's solidarity on this war. >> is victor for bond -- is victor -- istor orban being honest when he says his opposition to the plan is avoiding oil that would be more expensive for his citizens to pay?

>> no, he is right. they will pay a price for the sanctions, but the point is it is better to pay this price rather than have pressure on the eu border in a few wks or a few months' time. instead of rallying with allies to stop an aggressive dictator, he is playing with them. and getting individual concessions for his own country. >> we just heard from henry kissinger's remarks from davos. in response, president zelenskyy said kissinger's calendar is not 2022 but 1938 and the audience is not davos but munich. is the idea kissinger is expressing akin to appeasing hitler in world war ii? >> in munich, remember czechoslovakia was threatened,

and it was hoped that this concession would satisfy hitler and he would then stop. we know what happened. henry should have given this advice in private, and also, i think he is wrong on substance. if putin gets the donbas like he got crimea before, he will then rebuild his army and go on the offensive again to try to get the rest of ukraine. what his plan is is crystal clear from his statements. he wants to extinguish ukraine as a state and as a people. >> the counter argument i speak to ukrainian officials about even is that the ukrainianrmy will struggle to re-seize territory russia has occupied since february 25, and then if it is inevitable russia will hold some territory in ukraine, why not accept that now rather than later after more of ukraine

has been destroyed? >> if ukrainian politicians make this judgment, that is their right. it is their country and their people who are being murdered, raped, and taken to russia. those are painful decisions for any democratic government to make, but it is not up to us to be forcing ukraine into those concessions. we should be helping a democracy that has been attacked to defend itself. >> another common argument to what you're saying is that the more heavy weapons the west provides to ukraine, the more it could escalate and lead to a possible conflict between the west and russia itself. >> if russia does not want to be hit by western weapons, there is a very simple thing she could do -- withdraw from ukraine. >> u.s. officials tell me specifically on weapons they are considering providing ukraine multiple launch rocket systems, including the more mobile heimer system.

president biden specifically ruled out some of the longer-range versions of those weapons because he says they could reach into russia. what is your response to that? >> i think that is prudent. we don't want to make it into a war with russia. we want to help ukraine defend its own territory. i think that is the right course. the nato ministerial has said that our aim is to chase the russians out of ukraine and not a step further. >> ukrainians say they cannot chase the russians out of ukraine without those longer-range weapons. >> let's start with the launchers. what kind of ammo you supply is then a secondary decision. >> and the armor, of course, that defines the range of those weapons. finally, in the time you have left, how do you see this war ending? >> it will end when the russians run out of missiles and when president putin and his circle

conclude that reviving the empire is too costly in men and treasure, but we are not at that point yet. >> so this war will last a long time? >> it will last as long as russians think they have the god-given right to dominate and conquer neighboring countries. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. judy: maya lin is known for her memorials, her architecture, her art. a new project adds a very personal side to her story and those of millions of other asian americans as the museum of chinese in america seeks to expand its own presence and expand understanding of the american experience. jeffrey brown reports for our arts and culture series canvas.

>> basically, it is a vertical landscape. it will start with stone at the base. >> in her new york studio, maya lin shows the design for a major new expansion of the museum of chinese in america. is this the puzzle? >> this is the puzzle. >> including a part of the desired -- design pattern after a tangram puzzle. >> a tangram is a 14,000-year-old chinese puzzle that i played as a kid. >> theieces of the puzzle, slightly pulled apart, will allow lighting. the design may be playful, but the purpose of the museum itself she says could not be more important, especially now. >> i don't think you can be an asian american in 2022 and not be acutely aware of the anti-asian sentiment, and i

think all these are one of the reasons we have doubled down on trying to be part of moca. >> not far away in lower manhattan in chinatown sits the current museum of chinese in america, a small institution that presents moments from more than 250 years. waves of immigration, biased discrimination and exclusion, images from popular culture, integration into american life , and the struggle for civil rights. there's also a law featuring stories of prominent chinese-americans. for the museum president, this is very much living history. >> the phrase "perpetual foreigner" has been connected with chinese in america and broadly asians in america. >> perpetual foreigner -- meaning? >> meaning my face will never be american enough to some people. it looks to foreign. we are constantly dealing with

the pressure, the tension of being this perpetual foreigner and also being a monolith, not just chinese-americans, but asian americans in this country. if you think about the chinese immigration patterns to this country, you cannot find a more diverse group. >> an exhibition titled "responses" addresses the current moment of the rise in violence againstsian americans. >> it grounds the moment in 250 years of racism and discrimination. >> while again putting it in historical perspective. >> what we are trying to do is make those markers for history, for individuals to understand this has been going on for quite a long time, and it will take more than just protests and collective voice. it is going to take rewriting textbooks. it will take going into classes at a very early age. not to say one is better than the other, but really encouraged the broadening of the american narrative to reflect the true stories.

>> it is personal for yaoho grew up in queens riding the subway, but now avoid it after experiencing racist confrontations herself. it is also personal for lin. she grew up in what she calls the soul chinese family in athens, ohio. her parents came from china in the 1940's, and she did not think much about it, but that will change dramatically in the first moment she came to public notice as the 21-year-old designer of the vietnam memorial. though her creation would become honored and beloved, it faced early opposition, some of it virulent and focused on lin herself. some of that was around you being asian american. >> absolutely. the veterans were very careful to protect me from some of the "how could you let a gook design this" type of letters. but i was so kind of naive. at the very first press conference, someone said, don't you think this is ironic that

this is a memorial for an asian war and you are asian, and i looked around and went, that is irrelevant. i was just so sure that it was all about what you do and how you do it. >> many years later, she says designing this museum feels important. at an estimated cost of $118 million to be raised from government, foundations, and private donors, moca will ature historical exhibitions, contemporary art and culture, a performing arts space, and a genealogy center. >> you kind of want to share all those stories, teach those stories,ut also celebrate how much we have contributed to and helped build our country because i'm an american. i always think it is interesting because it is like i'm chinese-american, but it's more like i'm american chinese. i was born here, raised care -- raised here. my cultural heritage, my parents

brought a lot from china, but they also choose to come from america, and i think that is important. >> the moca president thinks the exhibition will be critical. even for her own family. >> i know my surname. it is yao. i know the character for my surname, but i'm kind of putting money on my kids will not probably know that. when people come here and say they have chinese ancestry, it is like where is your old home, and they just say china, there's no pride. it is almost as if the chinese identity has been devalued, and i think what we are creating for -- what we are craving for in this country, for asian americans is a greater sense of identity. but that identity we think needs to be rooted in history. >> the expansion still faces challenges including protests by a group of chinatown activists who say money given by the city to purchase the building for the

museum, some $40 million, could be better used two help local small businesses and others hurt in the pandemic. that fight within the chinatown community is likely to continue. >> this is the front entry, both during the day rendered and then at night so you can begin to see how the museum will really be welcoming. >> for her part, maia lin is staying focused on her part. the details and goals of her design. >> in architecture, you cannot solve problems, but you can definitely send messages. the message here is we are here. we want to share with the community. >> the plan now to close the current building late next year and open the new museum of chinese in america in 2025. ♪

judy: finally tonight, one of college basketball's most successful coaches on his almost 50-year career. i sat down with recently retired duke coach mike krzyzewski, known to many fans as coach k. a college basketball legend has hung up his whistle. >> after you scream, come right to the ball. judy: duke men's coach mike krzyzewski retired this season as the winningest coach of all time after a 47-year career. [whistle] >> when you are going, you take a quick look at him and if you don't get it, get back up there. judy: he came from humble roots, raised in chicago in a polish american catholic family. his mother emily encouraged him to attend west point where he was a standout basketball player under head coach bobby knight. he served in the army before coaching his alma mater. from there, krzyweski went to duke where for 32 years, he was

-- 42 years, he was a force in the college game. coach k won five national championships with the blue devils and set the ncaa record for all wins. he also led the u.s. national basketball team, winning three olympic gold medals, and at his side, his wife mickey, their three daughters, and 10 grandchildren. i met mike krzyzewski in his office at duke for an exclusive conversation about his life and legacy. mike krzyzewski, i try to be a fair reporter always, but i have to say being here at duke, my alma mater, th the chance to talk to you, it is a real treat. thank you. >> thank you. judy: this is a big change for you after coaching for almost five decades. has it sunk in yet? >> you know, it is seeping in but in a good way. i have done what i wanted to do since i was 16. i wanted to be a coach.

i love it. sometimes to do something you love, you have to do things you don't like to get it done, and i think i would still like to coach, but i was not willing to put all the time and effort of all the recruiting and rapidity of it got too much. i mean, 47 years is pretty good. judy: coach k's office is a museum of mementos. from the army -- >> i did serve. i was never in combat. i was an artillery officer. that's a helmet. could have used those for an away game. judy: there are keepsakes from those five national championships and the u.s. national team wins. >> people say, what's the greatest moment? it is that. judy: more than any duke when? >> that's not to minimize, but this is the world. judy: photos from fans. >> i have three groups of nuns around the united states that i write to.

they pray for you. they say rosaries. judy: and family photos. >> my brother who passed was a captain in the chicago fire department, and my mom probably had the most influence of anyone in my life. judy: and of course, his wife. married 52 years. she has been in on all major decisions you have a in your life. >> a lot of people say it is the coach, but it is the family that makes the decisions. i was blessed to have her and my three daughters, and i learned sometimes the hard way the wisdom of a woman and the way she looks at things and my daughters do, that has helped me immensely grow, and change along the years. judy: i have heard it said that among your many qualities, mike krzyzewski can be stubborn. >> yeah, i'm stubborn, but i'm

al very flexible when i hear a better solution. it does not have to be my idea. in fact, in the mid-1990's, i changed my leadership style a lot because i have been kind of a micromanager. maybe i was too stubborn then up until the mid-1990's, but after then, i had some health issues, physical and mental health issues in the mid-1990's, and i got through that, and it helped me immensely. judy: and you have been open about that. >> yeah. judy: you have talked openly about that because you think it helps others who may be going through similar challenges. >> it is human. so many people who have problems physical and mental. in the old days, people woul say you are crazy. i'm not crazy. i'm crazy if i don't help. i had no feeling during that time. maybe the greatest man i have ever known who was president at the time helped me.

he worked with me for three or four months, and thank goodness i was around good people again. judy: she sheskey spent more -- jy: krzyweski spent more than four decades here at cameron indoor stadium. the court is even named after him. we walked out on the floor he spent so much time on. what does this place mean to you? >> once we started going, every home game when i walked out here, i knew our crowd would be ready. it was a rush. judy: krzyweski thinks the pressure got to his team in his last home game here, a loss to archrival north carolina. >> this is the youngest team i have ever coached this year. they were terrific. one of my closest teams. i thought everything got really big for them, and carolina is good. judy: coach k is stepping off the court at a time of flux for college athletics. what do you think the state of college basketball is right now?

>> it is in chaos, really. college sports. because of the ncaa not evolving and not adapting over the years to where now the old way of doing it and being structured, it has not worked. it is a business, and things like the nil have opened that up, and the ncaa is not equipped to handle it. it has to restructure to figure out how you put like people, like institutions in certain places to govern themselves and maybe come under one total umbrella concerning certain roles. it's got to be something like that. judy: nil -- names, images, and licenses. it has begun to change. >> the horse has left the barn or whatever those sayings are, it is a whole new world. judy: you have the argument that

on the one hand, it is time for these players who are a big reason for their teams doing so well to reap some rewards from that, but then you have the other gument that it is turning college athletics into a profession. >> that is because it has not been something that evolved. in the early 1990's, our players could go out and speak and make money at camps or whatever. really, it was name, image, and likeness, anthe ncaa put the kibosh on it, and that was it. imagine if in 1993 they did not do that and the iterations that would have occurred in adapting, where we would be at today. you would learn how to control that and govern that. when it all ts you like a tsunami, it is not going to work. judy: in addition to that, you have the whole transfer portal

issue, the idea that transfer -- that players can transfer to another school -- >> without sitting out. judy: the way other students do and immediately play a sport for another school. what does that mean? >> it is chaotic. basically we don't have any leadership right now and we have not for a long time. the lack of leadership and adapting over the decades has caught up to us. it knocked down the door and said, you know what? you all are really behind. it is time to build a new house. judy: can you be part of figuring that out? >> i'm more than happy to talk to someone, but that's not what i'm going to spend the rest of my life doing. it would be like me beating my head against the wall here. i would like to know who is leading before i do anything. it has been very frustrating for me and for a number of coaches over the years to give up so much time in ad hoc meetings or

whatever to try to iluence change because it went nowhere. so i don't want to be involved anymore in anything where it is not going someplace. i want my bus to go someplace. judy: players now if they are stars as freshmen can earn a lot of money. are you comfortable with that? >> it is the way it is. it is not going to change. we have to make that work well. judy: i'm asking partly because some people look at what is going on in college basketball and say there's just too much money. they look at your salary last year. he earned $12 million or something like that. >> that's not right because it compiles a couple of years. >> do you realize how much we raise for the school? besides making money, every capital campaign, when it is a $3 billion, $2 billion campaign,

sports is a big part of the marketing structure to make that happen, so, yeah, we make money, but we make money for everybody. judy: one other big area i want to raise is international sports. you coached the olympic team. teams of countries that played against other countries. does it matter if you are playing against a team, like russia right now with what is gog on in ukraine? >> when there has been a world war, there are no olympics. there's no competition and whatever. personally, i would not do anything with them, but that's in the next room where it happens, not my room. judy: over the course of his career, krzyweski has never shied away from voicing s opinions. >> black lives matter! black lives matter! judy: in 2020 when the murder of george floyd rocked the nation, he released a video statement

after a series of conversations with his current and former players. >> black lives matter. we should be saying it every day. it is not political. this is not a political statement. it is a human rights statement. judy: do you think college sports have done as muchs much as it could have two address systemic racism? we all agree there is systemic racism. >> i think it has done a really good job, especially in providing opportunities -- you know, sport has given people -- youngsters who did not have the economic ability to go to a college to go to college in so many sports, and title ix for women has been helping in that regard. judy: how do you think we're doing in the rest of the country? >> we are not doing enough. why does one part of congress sit on this side and the others sit on that side? my thing is two is better than

one if two can act as one. it would be a hell of a lot better country if two can act as one, and that is not the case and both are at fault. judy: and yet a major hang up right now is over one issue, and that is if the 2020 election was fairly decided or not. >> that's crazy. to me,hat's nuts. the other thing is everyone in our country should have the abity to vote in the easiest possible manner. judy: and yet, there are active efforts right now to make it harder. >> crazy. i think that's nuts. judy: every corner of krzyweski's office is a living monument to a man who achieved success through dedication and -- through regimen and structure. >> that's the price you have to pay. the preparation. the night before practice, i

wod write out a practice plan. in 47 years, i probably have written 5000 practice plans. judy: now for the first time in nearly half a century, his entire routine will change. as you sit back or sit forward at this stage of your life in your career, what do you take with you right now? >> for my whole career, i was a car that never had a rearview mirror. once i did something, it was done. i call it next play. all the time. no regrets, gave it my best. is that going to bother you? you know what? it doesn't make any difference. i'm on to the next thing. now i have reflected some, but not so much about games. for me, it has been very emotional but very gratifying in not remembering that we won a national championship or lost our last game or whatever, but

what matters is people. we have had a tremendous impact on people during the almost five decades we have coached. judy: still no regrets? >> i have no regrets. for youngsters, there are two things i write a lot with autographs. one is always try your best. to me, you are a winner if you always try your best. the other is follow your heart in the pursuit of your dreams. i have done both, and i have been a lucky guy. judy: mike krzyzewski, a lucky guy, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. it is my pleasure. judy: we were glad to have that conversation, and he says he is taking his time to figure out what he is going to do next. online right now, people laid off the lawnmower across the

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