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geoff: good evening. tonight on pbs news weekend, the committee investigating the attack on the capital begins their first public hearings thursday. what to expect after months of investigation. then the rise of extremists online spaces that target young men and how to protect them from radicalization. and i talk with mark cuban about his new effort to tackle the high cost of prescription drugs. >> it is just wrong that people ve to choose between eating, rent, and taking medication or buying their medication in the united states of america in 2000 22. it is just wrong. geoff: all of that and the days
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this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasng and for your contributions to your pbs news station by viewers like you. thank you. geoff: good evening. it is good to be with you. we start with today's headlines and the news of more gun violence. at least eight shootings with multiple injuries and deaths across the country. three people were killed in an early rning shooting in michigannd another few are dead after an overnight shooting in tennessee. in south carolina, a graduation shooting left one womadead. in downtown philadelphia, shots
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ring out, leaving three dead and 12 others hurt. in phoenix, one person is dead and eight others injured in a shooting near a strip mall. two other people were killed in the city into separate shooting incidents. inmates in arizona, to debtor and to injured after a shooting outside a bar overnight. as we have reported, gun violence is surging across the country and data shows the number of multiple victim shootings first spiked in april 2020 and has stayed high ever since. turning out to the war in ukraine, russian missile strikes early today interrupted the weeks long quiet think eve. no one -- in kyiv.
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vladimir putin issued this cryptic threat to the west. >> if they are supplied, we will use our means of destruction, which we have plenty, in order to sike at objects we have not yet struck. geoff: the pentagon says it will take weeks to get the latest u.s. military assistance onto the battlefield. in nigeria, as many as 50 people are feared dead after gunman opened fire and detonated explosives at a catholic church today. a warnin theargraphic. bloodstained pews and the bodies of worshipers were cleared. gunmen attacked as congregants gathered for mass and objected -- and abducted the priest.
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after a chemical explosion, 49 people are dead and 100 injured and firefighters tried to control a blaze. north korea fired eight short range ballistic missiles into the water east of the korean peninsula sunday. japan's defense minister calls this barrage unprecedented. this is north korea's 18th round of missile tests this year. and on the final day of her platinum jubilee, crowds reveled as queen elizabeth the second made a surprise appearance on the balcony of buckingham palace this afternoon to punctuate the celebration. she last appeared on thursday say for a prerecorded video appearance yesterday. she skipped events friday and
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saturday after buckingham palace says she experienced some discomfort during thursday's festivities. still to come, we talk with an expert about the warning signs of online extremism and what parents can do to protect their kids. and the weekend spotlight. businessman mark capon -- mark cuban's latest effort to bring down the cost of prescription drugs. announcer: this is pbs news weekend from w eta new station in washington. geoff: the january 6 committee is moving to primetime. the committee plans to present unseen documents and provide new witness testiny about the capital insurrection. the committee has interviewed dozens of witnesses behind closed doors so far, including a former attorney general, william barr, whose sources say met with house investigators for more
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than two hours this week. in the committee this past week, they put out a statementhat says they will present previously unseen material. give us a sense of what that might be. >> exactly right. they want to show all of the materials they got from mark meadows and testimony from others connected to the militia groups and testimony from those who shot the documentary footage and accompanied the various actors from election day through the insurrection. so none of this has been seen by anyone before, other than the investigators on the january 6 committee so for the first time they are going to present this and they plan to show a roadmap of criminali. then they will dive into the new
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material. geoff: jamie raskin said a couple of months ago that this will blow the roof off of the house, that is the phrase he used. is that the sense you get >> it certainly -- is that the sense you get? >> it certainly seems to be. every time we have had a new court filing and seeing the evidence, it's a huge deal. if that is just what they are making public, the expectation is these hearings will be a really big deal. geoff: what is the goal of the committee?
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are they trying to change people's minds? or are they really introducing their work product so it exists in the public work record to prevent this from happening again? >> the committee will say it is a legislative purpose but it is clear that they aim to show potential criminality by the former president people in his inner circle. they want to present that to the american public and their hope is that they can show, this is what the council believes and you should believthis to come and this is why. geoff: there was frustration among committee members that the doj was not moving quickly enough to enforce subpoenas. this has changed given the development with navarro but how will this affect ability to
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connect the story and stitched together tapestry of events? >> i don't think it affects it at all. the primary evidence is photos, text messages, emails. and they already have it not from republicans on the congress side but from recipients and those sending text messages. geoff: some members of the committee have hyped public hearings as being a watergate style moment and yet these hearings are happening in the middle of the summer, within two weeks in june and most hearings will be held during the day. will they be able to break through? >> the idea is the two weeks will be big revelations we have not seen before. evidence of conspiracy and criminality. this is the aim. as whether they will break
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through, the committee is starting to think that their job is wrapping up. the meat on this is the doj, they will sendll their evidence to the justice department and at the end of the day will be when people start getting indicted. geoff: thank you for sharing your reporting with us. thank you for coming in. >> of course. thank you. geoff: after a racist rampage at a buffalo supermarket last month, the shooter admitted he had been radicalized by extremist, racist content online. it was yet another example of the link between online extremism and mass shooters. correspondent ali rogin sat down with an expert to discuss how parents can recognize the warning signs of online radicalization. ali: as young people spend more time in virtual networks, parents and guardians are looking for ways to keephem safe. cynthia miller idris is the director of research at american university's polarization and extremism research innovatn lab. the lab created a toolkit to help caregivers spot warning signs of radicalization.
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cynthia miller, idris, thank you so much for joining us. extremism and racist belief systems are not new, but online platforms have certainly allowed extremists to reach more people. why are young people, especially white boys, it seems, so susceptible? cynthia: well, what we're seeing today, i mean, the ideas are age old. we have always seen racist beliefs, extremist fringe beliefs and violent beliefs circulating. but you usedo have to kind of seek it out as a destination or sign up for a listserv. now, wherever you spend time online, it's much more likely that those kind of hateful ideas encounter you, that you run into them wherever you are. and boys in particular spend a lot of time in sites like online gaming or meme sharing sites, or sites where there happens to also be a lot of toxic and hateful content circulating, often in the form of jokes. and that can be something that can open up rabbit holes to further radicalization. ali: and how is a pandemic
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exacerbated these conditions? cynthia: you know we moved to a situation where millio of children and adults started spending all of their time online, their social time, their school time. and that led to just many more opportunities to encounter this harmful content. but we also know that there was more content circulating during the pandemic. so an increase in conspiracy theories, just like we have seen increases in anti-semitic or anti-asian hate crimes and conspiracy theories. we saw that circulating in online spaces as well. so it became a toxic mix in which more time online and more circulation of coniracy theories and hateful content created a kind of tinderbox. ali: yeah. and i want to talk about some of the the the targets of that hateful content. i mean, we talked about how white boys sometimes are the most susceptible. but of course, there are many other individuals who are a part of this conversation, girls, children of color. they might not be the main targets of radicalization, but they certainly have a stake in this conversation. so how did those groups fit into
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this? cynthia: well, there's two things. one, everyone online is encountering some of this information and some of this hateful content at some point sometimes as victims. so we will hear in webinars with middle school students, for exple, that students of color might stop going to online gaming platforms because they encounter hateful content against themselves, that they might use a different avatar or name to sort of obscure their own racial identity. so kids are being affected by this, whether they are, you know, being drawn into hateful content as a perpetrator or victimized. and we also see that there's lots of forms of hateful content. so there's anti-lgbtq content out there, anti-immigrant content, anti-woman content. so there are a lot of different kinds of supremacist and hateful content circulating. ali: i wanto pick up owhat you just mentioned about online communities. how have those communities changed the environment that you've been tracking?
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cynthia: part of what a lot of older adults might not understand if they don't spend much time in these online gaming platforms, is that this isn't just a game anymore. they really are communities in which they have chat rooms and and platforms where people can communicate with audio and with and with text. ali: and how do you suggest caregivers try to help protect children against online radicalization? cynthia: well, one of the first things we advise and we created a guide together with the southern poverty law center, to advise parents and caregivers, which is free. and i advise people to to access it. you can, you know, first of all, just express curiosity with kids in your lives, whether that's a niece or a nephew. you know, ask them where they spend time online. ask them to explain what a meme is. we find that's one of the best ways approach them as the experts who tell you how they encounter is content. how does it get shared? where do kids share it over text chains? do they run into it in different kinds of spaces where they spend time online? so asking with curiosity and then trying to react, not with
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shame, which can drive them further online, but with but with more questions that can produce more information about what they already understand, can open up dialog and help bud a relationship that can pull them out of it rather than driving them further toward it. ali: cynthia miller idris with american university, thank you so much for your time. cynthia: thank you for having me. geoff: people searching for cheaper alternatives to high priced prescription drugs have a new and perhaps unexpected option. it's an online pharmacy founded by billionaire businessman, "shark tank" star and dallas mavericks owner mark cuban. his new direct-to-consumer company cost plus drugs offers more than 100 generic medications at discounted prices. and mark cuban joins us now. thanks for being with us. mark cuban thanks for ving me on, geoff. geoff: so you have solved the problem that politicians have struggled with for decades.
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and it strikes me that one of the ways you were able to do it was by [16:28:43]approaching it as a business problem to tackle and less so as a political issue. mark: as an entrepreneur, any time i see an industry that's been run t same way for decades, if not generations, and it's been obfuscated to the point where there's no transparency and you have associations trying to protect that opaqueness, to me that's an opportunity and that's exactly what we saw with the prescription drug industry. and by adding transparency a our approach at cost plus drugs, which is we'll show you our actual cost, we'll mark it up 15%, we'll add $3 pharmacy handling fee and $5 shipping. and that's all you ever pay. that simplification and transparency has really had an impact. geoff: so what was the genesis of this company? as i understand it, there was a doctor with a business plan who reached out to you with a cold email. first of all, i'm not even sure how he would get your email, but he did. and you were receptive to it.
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mark: very much so. f roet scientist, he's an m.d., he's a mathematician, you name it. he's he's got that after his name. reached out to me with the concept of doing specialty pharmacies, where we'll be able to take drugs that were in high demand but were in short supply and reduce those prices. and i was like, that's a great idea, but let's see if wcan make it more mainstream. so we spent the next three plus years going through and getting all our i's dotted and t's crossed in terms of registrations and certifications and got to the point where we were able to go live with costplusdrugs.com on january 19 of this year. geoff: you could devote your time, money and attention to any number of things. why focus on this? mark: because it is just wrong that people have to choose between eating, you know, their rent, and taking their
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medications or buying their medications. in united states of america in 2022, it's just wrong. and it was obvious there was not going to be a political solution. and even the attempts that are being discussed don't really get to the heart of the problem. setting a price, or doing a discount against other prices, all the all these numbers work from artificially set retail and wholesale pris. the reality is the only number that matters is cost. what can we as the retailer or the distributor buy it for and how low can we sell it? so we decided to take the exact opposite approach that politicians have been taking. and to me, you know, once we realized that we could do this, i had to do it. and by the way, we're past 100 drugs now. we just added another 90 yesterday. so we're past 700. and while those first 700 plus are generic, we will be adding brand name drugs as well over the course of the year and by the end of this year, we hope to be passed 2,000 drugs. geoff: what about insulin and epipens? are those goingo be
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available? mark: we are working on it. i can't give you a date. it could be six months. it could be a year. it could be two years. but, you know, the reality, is that the branded name manufacturers that we're starting to rk with see us as really as an opportunity to regain control of pricing. four of the biggest companies in the country now are vertically integrated so that they have pharmacy benefit managers, insurance companies and huge retail pharmacy, among other companies. and that vertical integration truly allows them to distort pricing. and we're able to work around them by not working through them. geoff: why hasn't this been tried before? mark: it basically has been tried before. but typically what happens, entrepreneurs like myself will build up the companies, the equivalent of a costplusdrugs.com, and then
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the big pharmacy benefit managers or the big insurance companies, they'll buy them. but i've been incredibly blessed in that my next dollar is not going to change my life, but my ability to invest in costplusdrugs.com is an ability to change millions of lives in this country, if not tens of millions over the next two years. and, you know, if there is a mission that i'd like to accomplish, that's it. geoff: what other seemingly intractable problems do you think can be solved through an entrepreneurial approach? [6.3s] mark: health care in general, there is a law that says the hospitals have got to show their pricing for their top procedure, all their pricing. and there are hospitals who are willing to take the $100 aay fine, rather than show their pricing. and the fact that it's only $100 a day shows you the seriousness of it. so, you know, health care across the board is ripe for disruption. geoff: i want to ask you about your potential political future. you have been an outspoken voice in the last two elections- 2016, 2020- an outspoken anti-trump voice. if he's to run again in 2024, everything suggests that he will, would that incentivize you to run? mark: no.
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no. because, you know, one of e things i try to teach my kid is you don't have to be the leader to be a leader. you know, and i think with cost plus drugs and what we're doing here, i can have more of an impact on the pricing of medication, which is a huge problem across this country, than i could as president of the united states. and i think we're already taking those first steps and demonstrating it. and if we can get through this over the next two or three, four or five years and add all the drugs that are insanely priced, you know, we'll go on to the next thing. and i think that type of impact is greater than the president of the united states can have. and i don't mean to say that from an arrogant perspective, but just as a business person, there are industries that are important to us as citizens of this country that i think can still be disruptive. geoff: mark cuban. great speaking with you. thanks so much for your time. mark: thank you. really appreciate it, geoff. geoff: and that is pbs news weekend for tonight.
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i'm geoff bennett. for all of us at pbs news weekend, thanks for spending part of your sunday with us. announcer: add with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting, and by coributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you.
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