♪ judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on "the newshour" tonight... mourning a monarch -- the united kingdom enters a period of national remembrance following the death of queen elizabeth the second. then... nuclear risks -- russian invaders try to force ukrainians operating europe's largest atomic energy plant to leave the facility that is caught in the crossfire. >> i think they are trying to make the plant personnel escape, in order to declare publicly to the entire world that, look, ukraine has lost control, the operators left. judy: and it's friday... jonathan capehart and michael geon wei in on the life and legacy of queen elizabeth ii and what new polling indicat about the upcoming midterms.

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♪ >> and friends of "the newshour." ♪ this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. judy: britain awoke to its first day in 70 years with a new monarch today as king charles iii returned to london from the side of his mother's deathbed in scotland. the mourning period that began yesterday with the passing of 96-year-old queen elizabeth ii continued as thousands gathered outside buckingham palace, and across the world tributes poured in for the late queen, whose loss is felt deepest among her people.

special correspondent willem marx reports from london. willem: they came in their thousands, mourners and well-wishers filling the streets around buckingham palace. hours later, the new king, charles iii arrived at his late mother's longtime home, now his own. and soon after, spoke to a grieving nation. king charles: throughout her life, her majesty the queen , my beloved mother, was an inspiration and example to me and to all my family, and we owe her the most heartfelt debt any family can owe to their mother; for her love, affection, guidance, understanding and example. willem: this public address ending on a deeply personal note. king charles: and to my darling mama, as you begin your last great journey to join my dear

late papa, i want simply to say this -- thank you. willem: among the crowds reacting to that message was arran byers. arran: very human, i thought. mama, papa, that kind of language always nice to hear. it's a sign of change and it all just feels very different. it feels very final now, feels like it's actually happened. willem: in the house of commons, members of parliament wore black, marking their respect for the former head of state with a moment of silence. on her fourth day as prime minister, liz truss led the tributes. pm truss: she was the rock on which modern britain was built. in an instt yesterday, our lives changed forever. today we show the world that we do not fear what lies ahead. willem: former prime minister boris johnson joined in the praise. mr. johnson: she had the patience and the sense of history to see that troubles come and go, and that disasters are seldom as bad as they seem.

and it was that indomitability, that humour, that work ethic and that sense of history, which together made her elizabeth the great. willem: in paris, the eiffel tower fell dark. french president emmanuel macron striking a somber tone too. pres. macron: to you, she was your queen. to us, she was the queen. to us all. she will be with us forever. willem: condolences too from ukrainian leader volodymyr zelenskyy. pres. zelenskyy: this is a heavy loss for europe and the whole world. our thoughts and prayers are with you. willem: with historic ties to britain, india's front pages filled with her image. in the capital new delhi, residents responded to her death. askaram: i remember queen elizabeth in such a way that she's just like our mother figure.

she attained such a level that everybody loves her. willem: in jamaica, where the monarchy has a more mixed reputation, many expressed skepticism about its future. sonja: we will see over the next few years, but i do not expect that he ll have the same kind of love as the queen. leslie: let's hope that we're done with the monarchy, we don't need kings or queens any more. willem: but back in london, no sign of such cynicism among her former subjects here. a lifetime spent in service now ended, a kingdom united by the loss of its beloved queen. for "the pbs newshour," i'm willem marx in london. judy: king charles iii's ascension to the throne heralds a new chapter in the lengthy and turbulent history of the british monarchy. and now winter is coming amid high inflation, war in europe, energy supply problems, and a new prime minister.

malcolm brabant reports from outside london, in marlow. [muffled bell ringing] malcolm: at 12:00 noon precisely, muffled bells rang out across britain. this was marlow, a quintessentially prosperous english town west of london on the river thames. athene: there's something quite poetic about it. it's very sad. malcolm: for retired headmistress athene ruff, tolling the bells was a solemn obligation. athene: we don't often practice because we don't often have to do it. but when we do, the first few rounds are quite poignant. and in fact, the more it goes on the more poignant it is. [bells ringing] oh, it's very important. just as when the queen celebrated her platinum jubilee, all of the ringers within marlow came to have a ring.

because that's the way we show our appreciation. appreciation, or on this occasion, to mark her her decline. [organ playing] malcolm: all saints echoed to the sound of bach as people were drawn to the church for quiet contemplation. organist richard harker. richard: it's going to be intensely emotional for everybody, certainly over the next few weeks. she's been such a presence in all of our lives for certainly all of my life, for many people's lives. and i think we're generally going to miss her and that stability and her just omnipresence, if you like, just that security that she's given to the country over so many years. malcolm: in all saints, marlow, and every church across england, people signed books of condolence. julie: i think it's very sad for britain. i think it's another knock, isn't it, for the nation in a

climate that is not that conducive to joy and happiness. and i think there'll be a lot of mourning and a lot of thinking about what's really important. jeanine: i am 70-years-old, so i've never known any other queen. and it feels like a big hole has opened up. she was so wonderful. and it is like my grandmother dying. malcolm: an hour later, another face of modern britain fifteen miles away in slough, one of the most diverse towns in the country. its people speak 150 different languages. the queen was the protector of all faiths and so her loss was also keenly felt here. abdul: it's like we missed our mother. she was a proper queen and we miss her in our hearts. what she done for all the world. nobody could have done it. sohail: we as a muslim community

, we have integrated very well within the british culture. we've always had the support. so the queen has played a big part into obviously all our heritage and us being here. so we've obviously appreciate everything she has done for us. mohammed: the whole world is mourning for her, entire world , and we are the people of this country. and we lost a great friend. malcolm: prince charles is inheriting the crown at a time when britain is facing a multitude of problems. there's rapidly rising inflation. food and energy prices are going through the roof. and millions of people here are extremely worried about whether or not they can put food on the table or keep warm this winter. trust in politicians is evaporating. the monarch here is constitutionally required to stay out of politics. and yet, somehow, new king charles has to find a way to provide leadership, inspiration and to ensure that an ancient, anachronistic institution remains relevant in today's society. dep. mayor akram: i think in today's society, i think the

monarchy and the royals are probably irrelevant. malcolm: slough's deputy mayor sabia akram doesn't think king charles can do much to alleviate the struggles of the people she represents. dep. mayor akram: i think there's a lot of uncertainty. people are worried. but again, they don't have the luxury of sitting around waiting and worrying. most people have two jobs at the moment. some people are looking at third jobs. malcolm: at the mosque, there was recognition of the challenges facing britain's new monarch. arfeen: this guy needs to be talking all his life. he needs to do some action now. and i think, you know, with the way the parties are, the politics in this country is it's a complete mess. and it is such a big divide between labour and conservative. and then you've got far right parties coming up. there has to be a unification kind of person or an entity or an organization that can start bringing people together because it's going to get worse. and it will. malcolm: back in picturesque marlow, there was confidence that the succession will be a smooth one. chloe: i think, will be fine.

charles... it's not everybody's first choice. i feel like you will be too much of a leap going to william. i think charles links us to the queen, links all those traditions that have been the bedrock of our country for a very long time. so i think we need to give them a chance and get behind him because i think he's the one that will steer us through. richard: i think personally that we' in a very good position to move ahead with a constitutional monarchy and to king charles. malcolm: nevertheless, while the queen was universally venerated, there's a widespread sense king charles iii now has to earn the respect of his subjects. for "the pbs newshour," i'm malcolm brabant in marlow. ♪ stephanie: i'm stephanie sy with "newshour west." we'll return to the full program after the latest headlines. the suspect in this week's series of shootings in memphis will remain jailed on a first-degree murder charge.

ezekiel kelly appeared in court today, accused of killing 4 people on wednesday. he was granted a public defender, and could face additional charges. investigators say they are still trying to piece together a motive. in ukraine, the military reported new gains in the east, driving back russian forces in the kharkiv region. and pro-russian officials in the area said they're evacuating several villages. but in the south, the un nuclear agency warned that the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant can no longer be supplied with power from outside. we'll focus on that story, after the news summary. north korea's leader kim jong un is insisting his regime will never give up its nuclear weapons. state media says he spoke thursday on a new law that spells out when to use nuclear arms, including for preemptive strikes. kim addressed the rubber-stamp national assembly in pyongyang, and declared the north's nuclear status is now irreversible.

kim jong un: let them impose sanctions on us for 100 days, 1000 days, 10 years or 100 years. we will not give up our right to life and right to defend our country on which the future and safety of our people depend. regardless of whatever extreme situation we get to face. sthanie: north korea has ramped up its missile testing to a record pace over the last year. and there've been signs of preparations to resume nuclear tests. un secretary-general antonio guterres urgentlrenewed his appeal today to help pakistan recover from catastrophic flooding. he spoke after viewing the devastation firsthand. months of heavy monsoon rains have now claimed nearly 1400 lives in the south asian country and left half a million people homeless. sec. gen. guterres: pakistan needs massive financial support to respond to this crisis th have cost it according to some

estimates, a hair today, about $30 billion and counting. and that support is entirely necessary and it is not a matter -- entirely necessary. stephanie: guterres said pakistan is a victim of climate change caused by more developed nations. some relief may be in sight for california and other parts of the american west after more than a week of dangerous heat. a tropical storm in the pacific is expected to cool things down, but it may also cause flash flooding. and strong winds threaten to fan the fairview fire in southern california, which has burned more than 25,000 acres and forced more than 35,000 residents to evacuate. 30,000 people have lost power in oregon as state utilities implement planned shut offs to reduce wildfires. the blackouts include the area in the columbia river gorge and around mount hood. heavy winds in the region are increasing wildfire risks, with a number of fires currently burning in the state. the u.s. supreme court has

temporarily blocked a court order that would have forced an orthodox jewish university in new york to recognize an lgbtq group as an official club. the order was signed by justice sonia sotomayor. yeshiva university is aruging that recognizing the club would violate its religious values. health officials in montana are blocking transgender people from changing their birth certificates. republican governor greg gianforte's administration made the rule permanent today, days before a court will hear arguments over the legality of a similar rule in place in montana. similar bans have been struck down by courts, but remain in tennesse, oklahoma and west virginia. still to come on "the newshour"... we examine the governors' races where candidates could bring about major shifts in state policies... americans with disabilities fight for equal access to the ballot box as states enforce more restrictive voting laws... jonathan capehart and michael gerson weigh in on the latest

political headlines... and much more. >> this is "the pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington, and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: today the united nations' nuclear watchdog made its strongest warning yet, of the possibility of a nuclear accidentt zaporizhzhia in ukraine. rafael grossi said a lack of external power, and staff access to the plant, make this moment critical. mr. grossi: let me be clear, the shelling around zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant must stop and a nuclear safety and security protection zone agreed immediately. a nuclear power plant can never be a pawn of war. its fate must not be decided by military means. the consequences of such action are far too grave.

judy: russia occupied zaporizhzhya six months ago. this week, nick schifrin and his team traveled to the nearby village of nikopol and discovered russia has made the nuclear plant a combat zone. nick: from behind a nuclear shield, russia strikes nikopol's civilian targets. including what used to be liudmyla shyshkina's apartment. she and her son pavlo stand in the spot a russian rocket tore through the ceiling and the walls. it stole her home and her husband. 81-year-old anatoliy was killed on the spot. liudmyla: he got this apartment. he was happy because he wanted to leave something for our children. he died and left nothing for his children. nick: the source of the strike seen through nikopol's haze, just 6 miles away, the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. a nikopol resident provided this

video, a russian multiple launch rocket firing from the plant. it's an almost dailbarrage, that's forced more than half of city's residents to flee. evgeniy sinehin is 30 years old. why are you leaving nikopol? evgeniy: we decided to leave after the shelling got close. at first, we thought it was somewhere far away and didn't pay attention. but the second night, our windows were shaking. nick: he left with his 6-year-old son, nikita, who keeps his most prized possessions close. and his wife marina. do you think your son understands what's happening? marina: our son understands everything, we're telling him about everything. nick: you said you explained everything to him, what do you mean? what do you tell him? marina: our son has to understand what's happening, because it's his history, a part of his life. if he grows up unaware of what's happening, he'll just forget it, and the events won't leave any trace. i want him to grow up knowing

how hard we fought for our freedom. nick: the freedom that their friend alyona lost. she was from berdyansk. russian troops poured into the city on the war's third week. the park downtown occupied and under russian control, today. alyona: a lot of soldiers came into our city. they started to kidnap everyone who refused to cooperate with the occupants. it's horrible what is happening there. nick: they only packed their favorite essentials, so they could leave in a hurry. desk lamps... you've evacuated and you brought the frying pan? have you needed the dream catcher? have you had a lot of nightmares? marina: when the war began we gathered with our friends and made this, with e hope it would protect us.

nick: but they're not the only ones under siege. have the russians killed anyone at the plant, have they tortured anyone, have the threatened anyone? this man is one of the 4000 ukrainian workers that continue to operate the plant, down from 11,000. he agreed to speak to us if we keep him anonymous. worker: yes, there is official information about injured employees, about the victims. some served in the armed forces of ukraine before, some openly demonstrated their pro-ukrainian position. this was enough for the russians to trap those people in the basement and torture them over several weeks. nick: the 500 russian soldiers occupying the plant parked their military vehicles inside. the u.n. says are blocking emergency access routes. and the worker now says the russians are trying to provoke the remaining workers into leaving. worker: i think they are trying to make the plant personnel escape, in order to declare publicly to the entire world that, look, ukraine has lost control, the operators left. so they will bring their personnel and announce that they are going to guarantee security. nick: we met him in western ukraine, hundreds of miles from zaporizhzhya.

he was evacuating with his wife, their daughter and son, and their pets. but he feels it's his duty to return to work, to help his ukrainian colleagues who are preventing disaster. worker: because there are very few people left there, and my colleagues work without days off. we must work at the plant, and we will keep working. nick: the head of ukraine's nuclear authority energoatom, petro kotin, said workers at the plant destroyed documents before the russians arriv. since taking the plant over, the russians damaged the outgoing power lines that help provide one fifth of the country's electricity. and they've also destroyed the lines that provide incoming electricity, that help prevent a meltdown. 5 of the plant's reactors are shutdown. the 6th is still on, but only to provide the plant power. right now, the plant's only source of power is one of its own reactors. is that sustainable? petro: it is the first time in the history of this type of reactor is operated in such a

mode. we are lucky that this unit operated for such a long period of time. but again, if there will be shutdown of this unit, after that we will rely only on diesel generators and, you know, the reliability of these diesel generators will be in question also. nick: that uncertainty terrifies some nuclear experts. one with decades of experience here wanted to sak to us anonymously, because he's critical of the government's response. >> ukraine is not stopping the reactor and the question is, why are the safety conditions not being met? nick: ukraine's state nuclear authority confirms to pbs newshour tonight it is considering shutting down the final reactor, but only when it has reliable incoming power. this expert says that's not fast enough. >> if the safe operating conditions are off, the reactor plant must be shut down. nick: he warns that there's a real risk the damage so far

coulpale in comparison to what happens when you make a nuclear plant a combat zone. for the pbs newshour, i'm nick schifrin, in pokrov, ukraine. ♪ judy: this midterm election cycle, there are high stakes in campaigns for governors' mansions. winners will impact everything from state elections to issues like reproductive rights. geoff bennet has more on the gubernatorial forecast. geoff: in a midterm election year, the fight for control of congress gets most of the attention, but control of state governments will be on the ballot too, with the outcome having a major impact on americans' lives. republicans have long dominated the gubernatorial landscape. today they hold 28 governors mansions, while democrats hold 22. but there are 36 races this year that could change that partisan breakdown. democrats are hoping to make gains this november and have a good chance of flipping two states that currently have

republican governors but are traditionally blue -- that's maryland and massachusetts. kyle kondik is following all of this closely. he is managing editor of "larry sabato's crystal ball" at the university of virginia center for politics. he joins me now. good to have you here. there are 36 states with governor states up this year and 26 are incumbents. republicans it seems are pretty bullish about their chances out west. give assistance of what is happening. kyle: maryland and massachusetts , the republicans nominated far right candidates, but because governorships don't always correspond to federal partisanship, you've got an open race in oregon, for instance, otherwise a very democratic state, it is a weird three-way race and republicans hoping to compete there.

you have a vulnerable aquatic incumbents in wisconsin, nevada, new mexico, michelle lujan grisham is vulnerable. you go back the last five midterms, 80% of the governors races that flipped were ones that were open seats as opposed to being defend by an incumbent. incumbency is valuable but invariably wanted to incumbents lose every year and republicans are hoping you can beat some democratic incumbents in a swing or redlining states. geoff: on the rock couple can -- on the republican side, there are number of election deniers running. how present is the far right, antidemocratic force in the governors races? kyle: one of the most prominent candidates is doug mass triano, many people think he's too far right to win in pennsylvania, although it is a competitive

state. that is an open c. immigrants have held it for two terms, tom wolf is the outgoing governor. josh schapiro, a well-regarded democratic candidate therapeutic he has a lot of -- well-regarded democratic candidate. he has a lot of money. also look at kari lake, a nominee for the open seat in arizona, state republicans are defending, there is a term limited republican governor there. kari lake is another person talking about the 2020 election a lot, or she was in the primary and is pretty right wing. i think she has a fairly decent chance to win although it is a coin flip. geoff: we talked about democrats hoping to flimassachusetts and maryland. what about the battleground races? kyle: most of the gurnatorial races are held in the midterm years, almost all the states have governors races, almost all the swing states. look at pennsylvania, georgia,

test. test. test. test. test. test. test. test. test. test. test. test. off: we haven't talked abt two of the best-known gubernatorial candidates, beto o'rourke in texas and stacey

abrams in georgia, both trailing ever so slightly. kyle: for as well known and well loved as stacey abrams and beto o'rourke are, they are polarizing. texas in particular and georgia to a degree are center-right states. as much as those candidates fire up democrats, they also fire up republican opponents. polling has indicated steady, solid leads for kemp in georgia and greg abbott in texas. we talk about the incumbency in these races, although i think particularly abbott has had questions and problems in recent months. he still looks like he is decently positioned this year. geoff: what makes governors races different? across the country, places where there might be a democratic governor and a republican straight legislature and vice versa. kyle: there's a little more room to maneuver, if you are from a minority party in the state, to make some hay you maybe could

make in a house or senate race. we have some outliers in the governorship. democrats have kentucky in -- kentucky and louisiana, kansas we mentioned. we have republican governors in maryland, massachusetts, very blue states otherwise. you could sometimes as a member of maybe a party that doesn't control the legislature, you could run a check on the legislature, sometimes you can get swept up in a wave environment and build an independent profile if you get elected to office. it's a little bit of a different dynamic. everything in american politics is becoming moreationalized and federalized, but a little less so with the governors races than with house and senate. geoff: kyle, thank you as always for your insights. kyle: thank you. ♪ judy: voters with disabilities say more restrictive voting laws are cutting off their access to the ballot box. now, wisconsin is rewriting its

guidance after a federal judge sided with four such voters there. i spoke with the attorney for those plaintiffs, scott thompson, earlier this week. scott thompson, welcome. let me start by asking you to give us background. how is it wisconsin has laws on the books that would forbid a voter with disabilities from having somne assist him or her in returning a ballot? scott: wisconsin is emblematic of a bigger nationwide story, an effort to use misinformation to dri policy change. early in 2022, a set of wisconsin political right wing activists filed a lawsuit to make ballot returned assistance and drop boxes illegal. ballot return asstance being the process by which someone uses a friend or someone of their choosing to return an absentee ballot.

when that case made it to the state supreme court this summer, the supreme court held that was generally illegal and refused to consider how voters with disabilities would be able to vote as a result of that case. that's why we filed our lawsuit. judy: tell us in basic terms, what were your plaintiffs asking for in this suit? scott: our plaintiffs are heroes. they suffer from disabilities that keep them, in some cases from even leaving their house. we were asking the court to first declare that the voting rights act gives these voters the right to ballot return assistance, and then we were asking the court to issue an injunction that would order the state elections commission to guide local elections officials to accept absentee ballots from voters with disabilities if they are returned through a third party. judy: what are the challenges your plaintiffs have that were keeping them from being able to

return the ballots themselves? scott: tim kerry lives with muscular dystrophy. 24/7, he requires a ventilator and can't really move without the assistance of someone else. the process of filling out and returning an absentee ballot is an important but difficult task for him. he needs someone else's help. that's why we are filing this suit to make sure that he and the other plaintiffs would be able to get those absentee ballots returned and counted. judy: this is from another wisconn voter, he is 36-year-old william crowley, who explained why he needed help returning his ballot. william: i have limited upper body movements and strength. if i were to go to a post office mailbox, i am unable to open it and throw an envelope in on my own.

i am limited in that way. judy: scott, tell us what the judge ruled in ruling in favor of your plaintiffs. scott: the judge agreed with us in no uncertain terms. the order does two things, it declares these plaintiffs' rights in wisconsin and makes clear the voting rights act applies. second, he ordered t elections commission had to issue instructions by this friday to make sure local election clerks knew to accept these absentee ballots. judy: i want to point out it was just last week that prosecutors in wisconsin did charge a man who was a republican activist, they charged him with voter fraud, including two felonies, alleging he ordered absentee ballots in the names of other people in an effort to prove that voter fraud is easy to pull off. does something like that

undercut the arguments? scott: i think this shows it is very infrequent. it also shows that the system we already have works. when there is a rare example of voter fraud like this attempt, our state can prosecute. simply because these activists can dream up ways to potentially commit a crime doesn't mean we should be further restricting the right to vote for anybody, but especially the rights for voters with disabilities. judy: in terms of broadening this out to the whole country, what states are out there do you believe do a good job of protecting the rights of voters with disabilities, and what do you think this ruling in wisconsin could have on potential restrictions other courts or legislatures try to impose? scott: i think this ruling sends a clear message across the

country that voters with disabilities are not going to stand pat when their rights are being trampled on. as far as nationwide examples, i think some of the states on the west coast -- california, oregon, washington, colorado -- they have expanded vote by mail in ways that makes the process much more accessible. other states have truly expanded acce to ballot drop boxes, and some states are even experimenting with certain online methods to vote with them -- with block chain based software. i believe west virginia was testing something like that. it shows we can be moving forward. ultimately these actors are going to test the guardrails of democracy, but it is important we are doing everything we c to push back and make sure the right to vote is protected. judy: scott thompson, an attorney in wisconsin, thank you for joining us. scott: thank you for having me. ♪

judy: waves of sadness and remembrances of queen elizabeth are part of conversations everywhere, as americans and the rest of the world come to grips with her death. separately, results from a "pbs newshour"/npr/marist poll are painting a fresh picture of where the american electorate stands just two months ahead of the general election. for analysis of these and other developments this week, we turn to capehart and gerson. that's "washington post" associate editor jonathan capehart, and his "post" colleague, opinion columnist michael gerson. david brooks is away. hello to both of you on this friday night. let's start by talking about the woman, no one else like her that we know of, on the throne for 70 years at a time when not just

great britain but the world is going through enormous change. what do think about her and what she stood for? jonathan: in my mind she stood for consistency and stability, and conservatism in that what she achieved for her people was someone who was never changing or slow to change. people i bet today who don't like the monarchy, probably did not like her, with her passing, are probably thinking about what she meant to them in terms of how they feel about their country and where it is going. i love the fact that we watched this monarch, who became queen as a young woman, and watched her change, evolve, age. in that time, we saw that the queen has a dysfunctional family, she has to deal with all

sorts of things that regular families have to deal with. it is just that she is a monarch and we are watching it all in real time. i think "the crown" ming out when it did in her later years -- the tv series on netflix, which i have watched in its entirety twice -- michael: i have too, by the way. [laughter] jonathan: it is fascinating to watch. i'm going to stop talking because there is one person at this table who has actually interviewed a member of the royal family. [laughter] judy: he was just telling us he has interviewed king charles iii. what about the king's mother, what does she leave us with, and then we talk about him. michael: they call it the show. the monarchy. it is not just a show. the british people have divided their political aspirations into

two institutions, one is the parliamentary system that reflects needed change, and the other is the monarchy, that reflects tradition, history and slower change. in the united states, we try to combine both of those things in the president to some extent. he is supposed to play both roles like george washington did, for example. but there have many people that failed at that job. but it worked for the last 70 years because of her. their form of government worked properly because of her for the last 70 years. judy: worked properly and now we're onto a new regime and we want to hear from both of you about what you expect, but michael, you were telling us you spent time talking with him -- what do you expect? michael: at high grove. he is a significantly underestimated public figure. when he first started to talk about organic farming, everybody thought he was barmy.

he was a pioneer. when he started talking about the amazon rain forest, preserving it, that has become one of the main environmental issues in our world. when he started talking about the dehumanization of modern architecture, particularublic housing, it was a wise and interesting contribution to the public discussion. i am in the camp that i think he is going to take to that office quite well. judy: what do you think about him, and jonathan, what do you think about the monarchy, and does it survive? jonathan: i'm going to share something i told michael i would not share on air but i will say it -- way back when i had a crush on then the prince charles, prince of wales -- i said it. [laughter] but king charles iii, i take

everything michael said, but he is facing challenges. he has a commonwealth where a lot of countries in africa are not celebrating the way people in england are mourning -- i shouldn't say celebrating, mourning in the same way people in england are. a cnn reporter, whose reports from nairobi are bracing in this moment, reminding people there are people in africa who think of the british as imperialists, as colonizers, and they want amends and apologies. prince william, now the prince and princess of wales, they were in the caribbean in march, and they faced protests along the way. i think prince edward was also on the trip in the caribbean where there were protests. judyour reporter a moment ago, we heard from jamaica, saying the time for kings and queens is passed.

jonathan: right. i think for king charles iii, the dilemma for him now is how do you hold the monarchy together when countries want to leave the commonwealth? countries want to remove british monarch as the sovereign of their country. they also have to deal with australia talking about wanting to leave, new zealand, scotland, wales. the challenge for queen elizabeth ii was to keep the monarchy going. i think for him, i think it is how will he help it survive? judy: how do you think it will be different? michael: i think it is different in america in a certain way. those objections to imperialism are quite real and important. but when we look at our history, we got our sense of national destiny from the puritans, ok?

we got our first great awakening and elevated -- evangelical from the brits. we got our approach of republican governance from the british whigs. we have a tie to britain not just because their family has a soap opera. this is a deep tie of belief and background that is different from any countries. judy: we are talking about two very different democracies and at a time when democracies have been under attack around the world. this is a democracy that yes, has changed, but the vote is still there. jonathan: the vote is still there. we've seen a peaceful transfer of power from one monarch to anothe whereas the cousins

over here, we are still grappling with an attempted coup that could happen again. judy: speaking of the vote, we want to share some of the numbers from our poll we did this week with npr and marist, where among other things, we asked people what issues matter to them the most. it has been inflation, inflation, inflation, but we are now seeing, especially among democrats, more than a third are saying abortion. the issue of abortion is driving them to have a greater interest in this election. what does that tell you? michael: it doesn't tell me as much about the issue of abortion, which has been divisive for a long time. it tells me a lot about the perception of radicalism of the republican party. this is the case wre rather than dealing in the aftermath of >> this is a, a case where, rather than dealing in the

aftermath of dobbs in responsible ways the republicans looked like they wanted to, you know, undermine the health of a 10-year-old, okay? or, you know, the attorney general of texas has said that he would enforce sodomy laws if the supreme court, you know, moves on those things. those are deeply radical notions that republicans have been led to. so i think republicans, i think that democrats have been more effective not in changing minds on abortion, but saying, you can't trust republicans with issues like abortion, because they're just not fit for it. >> what do these numbers tell you, jonathan? >> i, i agree with michael. you can look at where people are in terms of inflation, immigration, crime, abortion, and i take your point that, you know, what we see in these numbers, it might not, it maybe isn't about people saying we support abortion amma but it is

about the radicalism of republicans, or, as i look at it, the attack on freedom. you're, you're going to attack a woman's right to bodily autonomy, then another supreme court justice in a concurring opinion says we're going to attack the right of same-sex couples to engage in intimacy, to get married we are going to attack the right of people to have access to contraception, and i think because of that radicalism, because of that attack on freedom, we see, in that poll, it's a six out of americans said the supreme court's decision to overturn roe makes them more likely to vote this fall. that was a huge number that jumped out at me, then that fits in with what we've seen in other polls. women are registering to vote. they're outpacing men in several states. in ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, 11 percentage point jump in ohio, 12 points in pennsylvania, 15 points in wisconsin, six in georgia,

seven in north carolina. >> and suburban women, which is going to be a battleground group in a lot of the spirit >> that's right. and i don't know if we have time to show this graphic, but when asked which party to control congress, democrats holding their own. it's still close. it's 48 democrats, 44 republicans. but specifically, michael, i want to ask, when people are asked, voters are asked, should donald trump run again in 2024, 67% of republicans said yes, and when republicans were asked, what if he's charged with a crime? almost that many still think he should run, 61%. >> well, i, i still want to be shocked by that. this is, you know, this is a case where donald trump has become more radical since he left office on many ways, many ways. we've seen from the hearings there's plenty of evidence out there that he's done illegal things, or may have done illegal things. this is proof that the base of the republican party is not going to be changed by external factors. and the, the big question that

more moderate republicans have is, are there 3% to 5% of republicans on the margin who will just say, this guy has too much baggage? >> 3% to 5%. >> executive that's what people i talked to, they think that could be decisive in a primary orca in a general election. if you have a small margin of disaffected republicans who, who may have liked some of the things he did, but find him to have a lot of baggage. >> how does that way on the other party? >> well, i think the other party should realize that whether or not donald trump runs for president, whether or not he's the nominee and faces president biden in 2024, it doesn't matter whether trump is on the ballot. trumpism is a broad in the land. those policies are going to be espoused by desantis or governor abbott or whomever else is the, is the republican nominee.

so i, i don't think we should be focusing on donald trump. we should be focusing on the republican party. >> quick coda. >> i agree, that's the threat, and it's not going to go away if he does go away, but he should go away, because of the distinct threat that he presents to american democracy. >> all right. entirely too much agreement here tonight. perfectly all right. jonathan capehart, michael garrison, thank you both. >> thanks. albert vendor is a writer, activist, and attorney of cherokee descent, currently based in tennessee. he has long been an advocate for native american cultural preservation and justice. tonight, he shares his brief but spectacular take on upholding indigenous cultures. >> 1000 years ago, nashville and middle tennessee was the site of the largest native

american population in the entire southeast. some archaeologists have even remarked that the ancient population of nashville was so vast and so huge that you can't walk any place in nashville without walking in the footsteps of ancient native americans. growing up was a realization of the tragic aspects of cherokee history and native american history. my great great grandfather, he was killed fighting white settlers. one of my first memories was hearing about the trail of tears and the historic conflicts that native american people had been engaged in with the onrushing tide of white settlers. the whole idea of my becoming an attorney was to engage in illegal practice that would

assist the promotion of native american rights and native american sovereignty over the years. we've been able to bring these issues to the forefront and make mainstream tennessee aware of ancient native american history and how it factors in with modern-day history. the preservation of these ancient sites is for the betterment of all people in this society. i think that the ideological standpoint of the majority of the u.s. population is headed in the direction of seeing greater justice for native american peoples in all repressed peoples of this country. what you have to have is hope, and i have so much hope. my name is albert vendor, and this is my brief but spectacular take on indigenous

cultures and struggles. >> and we thank you for that, albert vendor. and don't forget to join washington week tonight, where moderator and her panel will discuss the midterms and ongoing trump investigations. check your local listings. also, please tune into pbs news weekend tomorrow for jeff bennett's interview with secretary of housing and urban development, marcia fudge, on the rising cost of housing. >> quite frankly, this has been an ongoing problem. it just didn't start with the pandemic. it just became more clear, and a brighter light was shined on it. we have not kept up with housing in this country for decades. the biggest problem is that there is a supply problem. there is much more demand than there is supply, and so we know that today we need at least one and a half million new units of housing just for the population we have right now. we also know that because of the rising cost of housing, not only just to rent it or to buy it, but also to build it, that

we have seen fewer housing starts for single-family houses than we have in years. we have seen fewer multifamily units built than we have seen in years. and purchases are going down as well, because of the economy and other things. so there's no one solution. but what i do believe that we need to do is find ways to incentivize, or encourage, developers to build more multifamily housing. >> secretary marcia fudge. that's tomorrow on pbs news weekend. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woodruff. for all of us at the pbs news hour, thank you, please stay safe, and we'll see you soon. >> major funding for the pbs news hour has been provided by.

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