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amna: good evening, i am amna nawaz. judy woodruff is away. we catch up with the ukrainian army chief after they take stock of damage wrought by the russians. boat 2022. the stage is set as americans makeheir voices heard in the primary contests. what to expect from the upcoming midterm general election. caught in the middle. a former kurdish militia member living in sweden's and stared -- is ensnared in national politics. >> it is scary to me.
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eclipse chaser. the raymond james financial advisor taylor's advice to help you live your life. life well planned. ♪ >> the walton family foundation, working for solutions to protect water during climate change so that people can thrive together. supported by the john the and catherine t macarthur foundation, committed to creating a just and peaceful world. more information at macfound.o rg. and with the ongoing support of these institutions. this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. amna: new inflation data at the
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wholesale level is out and it underscores what is happening on the retail side. u.s. labor department reports producer prices rose .7% in august from one year ago. the so-called core rate not counting food and energy was up 7.3%. those numbers reinforced tuesday's report on consumer prices and suggest prices will keep rising for months to come. unions have some of the largest u.s. freight railroads are still negotiating tonight with a strike deadline fast approaching and when union rejected an agreement with three others at the bargaining table. a walkout could cause new chaos in the supply chains and disrupt amtrak and commuter service railroads. in ukraine, president zelenskyy visited the northeastern city today days after its recapture. he watched as the damage done by
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-- the war in ukraine has sent the energy cost soaring in europe and calling for a cap on electric utility revenues. it could raise $140 billion to help consumers cover energy costs. they addressed the eu assembly and made her case. >> the companies are making revenues they never accounted for. they never even dreamt of. but in these times, it is wrong to receive extraordinary record revenues and profits benefiting from more and on the back of our consumers. amna: the eu commission estimates some companies are making five times their usual profits. a top court in the eu largely uphold a fine on google today for stifling competition.
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it is the largest antitrust penalty. queen elizabeth ii lies in state after a solemn procession. the queen coffin was carried from buckingham palace to parliament. king charles siblings and sons followed with troops in full dress uniforms. they waited in line for hours to say their final goodbyes. >> the fact that we have people coming by, not just because it is something to do. to takecoffin. there is real respect there. amna: elizabeth will lie in state for four days before her funeral next monday. on the pandemic, the world health organization projected today that the end of the global
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outbreak is insight. worldwide deaths fell to the lowest since march of 2020. in geneva, the director general said a turning point may finally be at hand. >> we can see the finish line. we are in a winning position. but now is the worst time to stop running. now is the time to run harder and make sure we cross the line. amna: to address also warned of a winter surge and said relaxed testing means many cases are going unreported. it back in this country, the juste department has charged three iranians with ransomware attack's on power companies, local governments, small businesses, and nonprofits.
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they are believed to be in iran. convicted singer r. kelly today of producing child pornography as well as other crimes. he was acquitted of rigging a previous trial. he had already been convicted of sex trafficking in new york and sentenced to 30 years in prison. the years final primary results are in and a 2020 election denier has won the republican nomination for u.s. senate in new hampshire. don baldock defeated a more moderate republican in the state senate president tuesday's voting. he will face incumbent democratic senator maggie hassan. we will have a look at the landscape later in the program. stocks managed modest gains a day after the worst selloff in two years. the dow jones industrial average added 30 points. the nasdaq rose 86 points, the
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s&p 500 was up 13 point. still to come on the newshour, the many investigations surrounding former president trump intensified. the economic impact of rising sea levels for property owners. an iowa teen who admitted to killing her rapist's order to pay $150,000 to the man's family and much more. >> you are watching the newshour from w eta and the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. amna: the ukrainian counteroffensive continues today a great pace across houston and southern ukraine. president zelenskyy and top members of his war council visited troops at the traumatized civilians liberated from russian rule. it is a time of relief for most, tempered by great sadness. nick was there reporting tonight from the northeast of ukraine.
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some images and accounts in this story are graphic. >> in a liberated area scarred and smashed by russian occupation, the ukrainian military guarantees security. the rule of law that russia stole. speaking to the soldiers, volodymyr zelenskyy says he would receive lost territory. >> it is certainly impossible to occupy our people. >> the city once crucial to russia's offensive once again flies the blue and gold. another city liberated last week. he awarded soldiers for their
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success. >> the people of ukraine will never forget. but you, please, never forgive any of those traders and terrorists. >> we caught up with him as he left. >> it is important our soldiers came back and occupation our territories. for me, also important. it is a strong and dangerous world. and if our soldiers are here, it means i have to support people and soldiers. >> this is what russia seized in the last five months. one of the architects of that success is general alexander starsky.
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>> the operation was successful due to the mility of units with artillery fire and aviation support. >> he vowed to expand, currently controlled by russia. >> units are moving forward. the morality is low. >> they badly need food and are traumatized by russian war crimes. one of zelinski's deputy chiefs of staff. what kind of evidence are you finding now that you are able to get into some of these territories? >> we're documenting all of the war crimes that we find because they are horrific. there are a lot of cases of such
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crimes we see in the liberated areas just in the last few days. >> that is just down the road. a district police headquarters that became the occupiers facility for detention. >> this is where the russian soldiers slept. >> they begin a tour into the heart of darkness. the basement that became a russian dormitory with russian cup of noodles and expired canned food. investigators come through where the russians hastily left it behind. upstairs, i am show to the holding cells. each one held 6-13 ukrainian prisoners. this is the lord's prayer, asking deliver us from evil. days turn into months.
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>> they marked how many days they kept an activity. >> they were taken to interrogation. >> they came to symbolize russian cruelty where devices of dehumanization still litter the floor. ukrainian police say this room was used as interrogation and basically became a torture chamber. a point out a couple of things here. this string was used for choking anybody they were talking to. this is the end of a baton that roque on one of the people they were interrogating. russian forces used electricity against ukrainians they were questioning. ukrainian police will send all this evidence to the prosecutor general with the hope of holding russia accountable. who where they interrogating in this room? >> they would target government officials, municipal officials, emergency workers, doctors, and
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law enforcement. >> and local journalists. we found one outside filming the source of his order. can you tell me what your experience was during russian occupation? >> on may 28, they came to my home. i'm sorry. they took all of my equipment. and i spent near 100 days, 100 days. >> he normally films happier scenes for a historical archive but when he filmed the russian occupiers, they detained him. >> they wanted me to work for them. they wanted me to post their propaganda on a youtube channel to betray ukraine and praise putin, to prae this liberation
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army and so on. i refused. as a result -- it is very difficult. they even wanted to execute me. >> for others, russia followed through on that threat. buried among those who died peacefully, he was murdered in june by russian interrogators. his brother was allowed to see his body in detention. >> he was taken into the cell. he was there for a split second and he said the body was still warm. >> svetlana is not here to mourn, she is watching the unwatchable.
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her son's body being exhumed. they need to document how russia tortured him to one day find justice. russia has stolen the dignity from even the dead. for the pbs newshour, i'm in ukraine. amna: we are now only 54 days ahead of the midterm elections and campaigns nationwide are gearing up for tough battles. historical trends and months of pulling previously predicted democrats will face trouble this fall but recent data show a red wave may not be the tsunami republicans were hoping for. joining me to discuss what may be watching ahead of the midterm are to ulcers tracking at all. joel benenson is a democratic strategist that work on barack obama and hillary clinton's residential campaigns.
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neil newhouse was for john mccainresidential bid. let's talk about the red wave. we have been hearing about it for months. based upon what you see, what does it look like to you? >> the trajectory of this election has changed and it has changed because of the dobbs decision. when we look back on this election next year, this will be known as the dobbs election. it has given democrats a foothold to get back into it. but when you step away from the numbers and you look at where the data is right now, biden approval rating is 43. disapproval above 50. the mood of the country is negative. americans believe we are in a recession. if you look at a snapshot of those numbers, it's easy to see republican optimism in the event we will win the house and do well across the country.
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but if you look at the directionality of numbers, trending numbers, there is no question bidens approval has been approving -- improving. concerns about the economy has easing -- eased. this is not the election we thought it would be six months ago. this is a different political environment. amna: the conventional wisdom is the party in power struggles midterm. does it hold? 2 i will take -- >> i will take the last point about the ballot being that even in that is not a good number for democrats. republicans have done much better at the state levels. they have been able to gerrymandered districts to their benefit just as democrats do when we are in power. but it gives republican an upper hand. i think the house will be very difficult to hold at this point. the senate, we have no margin
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for error as democrats. we are 50-50 with the vice president the deciding vote. there are tough races all over the country. i think both of them, both parties right now have about 40 ats up so there will be a handful of competitive districts to determine the outcomes. some of the republicans look good. in georgia, the incumbent to is in a tight battle with herschel walker. i think senator bennett will hold his seat. i think maggie hassan will hold her seat. then you have tossup's in north carolina. there could be some surprise as either way here. i think neil is right in his assessment that i also think
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democrats holding here are going to be a tough thing in both houses. amna: two very clear message is emerging, democrats are increasingly focused on the loss of abortion rights. republicans focus largely on the economy and inflation. here is how that conversation is playing out in a senate race. and a republican challenger, take a look at these clips. >> there is always a challenge. >> supporting overturning abortion protections. he would let states outlaw it. >> inflation through the roof and higher prices on everything are costing nevada families plenty. amna: you have seen democrats haering home this loss of abortion rights and yesterday, senator lindsey graham introduced a nationwide 15 week abortion ban.
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what did you think when you saw that happen? >> his heart may be in the right place with what he was trying to do strategically. the way it was executed and the fact that it is stepping on the message that republicans want to get out about inflation, cost-of-living of living, the economy i think was absolutely the wrong strategic move to make. anything that republicans are doing to take the focus off of inflation and the economy, the perceived incompetence of the biden administration. anything we're doing talking about other issues doesn't help in the fall. amna: how are those messages landing? >> i think it's landing like a lead balloon. we have seen reports on voter registration. women and young people are outperforming what was expected in voter registration for a
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midterm election. let's make no mistake about it. dobbs is going to be on the ballot here. almost more so than joe biden. the state of kansas, for example, voters went to the ballot and upheld a woman's right to choose in a republican red state. presidential level turnout and 60% of the voters were republican that day. i think this is going to cut big into republican base voters. women in particular, suburban voters. i think it is giving democrats more of a chance then i would have given them before the dobbs decision. amna: go ahead, neil. >> it is giving them a foothold but it will not determine the election. it will be difficult for democrats to make the case to americans that it is just like
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kansas. abortion is on the ballot. i think in a lot ofhese red districts that trump one that democrats held, it's a very difficult argument. it is the number two vote deterrent. right now, the economy is teetering a little bit. 55 days left, we have a lot of land to cover in that time. amna: neil mentioned some of the things that could come up. it feels like many political lifetimes, but what are the unknowns? what could change the landscape? >> i don't think there are unknowns.
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these races are going to be different. except for one thing. we have seen what happened in terms of voter registration in reaction to the dobbs decision and we know this is personal for people. it reflects their personal values, not just a political sense of if gas prices are going up or down. it is something that lives every day in the american mindset about whether or not you believe that a woman has a right to make that choice herself or you don't. you have a party that has put a marker down and lindsey graham saying he wants to pass a law saying abortions are outlawed after 15 weeks, that was not a great political move. but i think it reflects where the party is. and i think it reflects something that will not fade away on election day. people are going to walk in and
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be thinking about this. more than they are going to be thinking about the prices paid at the pump for gasoline. they will be thinking about which one of these people will really protect my values when push comes to shove. and i think this decision has put republicans in a very bad place. amna: 54 days to go. we will be watching clely as i'm sure both of you will. joel benenson and neil newhouse, thank you. ♪ amna: former president donald trump is at the center of several ongoing investigations from missing classified government documents to influencing 2020 election results. william takes a look at these
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probes that loom over a contentious midterm season. >> there are multiple and overlapping investigations into the former president, his actions, and those of his allies. we want to turn to someone who has been tracking all of them closely. andrea bernstein has been covering democracy for pro-public and a regular contributor to npr. she is the author of american oligarchs, the kushner's, trumps, and the marriage of money and power. >> good to speak with you. >> let's talk about the mar-a-lago documents investigation. this is a probe into whether or not the president improperly took classified documents from the white house down to his home in florida. we know the fbi executed the search warrant. what is the latest on that particular investigation? >> both sides have commented.
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a special master is a phenomenon that has really emerged. it in both of those cases, they argued they were attorneys for president trump so some of the documents could have attorney-client privilege. the complicated thing is that this is the ex-president in possession of classified documents. and the government is arguing, the department of justice is arguing that he has no right to those documents. they are clearly government property by their nature because they are marked classified. there is no question of privilege and with respect to classified documents, the justice department is arguing that they should have unfettered access both to investigate and for national security reasons. former president trump's
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attorneys say that we need to pause and there might be something that they shouldn't be looking at. the justice department response has been ok, we won't look at what might be personal to the former president but the classified documents are ours and we have a right to them. we are waiting for the florida judge to decide whether the justice department can go ahead and have access to these classified documents. that is the status right now as we are waiting for a judicial ruling. >> has been ongoing speculation as to why the former president would have taken some of these documents down to mar-a-lago and we still don't know the answer to that. but you published a piece today that hinted as to why he might have. >> we don't know the reason. i have covered his businesses for a long time and so many people have spoken to me about how, as a businessman, donald
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trump was a manager and collected it to real power. i spoke with christie todd whitman who said there was an occasion when trump did not want her to approve a tunnel to a rival casino because trump at the time thought it would help his rival. so he pressured whitman and called her up and said you would not want anybody to find out anything about your son. this was non-public information, her high school aged son had gotten drunk at a trump property and had to go to the hospital. she doesn't know how trump found out about it but she said he used that information and tried to pressure her decision to go his way. this is something i have heard over and over from associates, employees, journalists, and others scrutinizing trump that he has obtained private information and tried to use it for his benefit. we don't know why he has those documents but we know he had a
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habit of collecting dirt on opponents. >> let's turn to another big investigation underway. the fulton county district attorney is looking into whether the trump campaign and different allies improperly perhaps pressured elections officials, how they counted the votes and how they reported those votes back to washington, d.c. what is the latest on that particular probe? >> there is a very active investigation. a number of allies have said peanut to testify. this is the investigation involving the phone call the former president made to the georgia secretary of state saying please find me 11,780 votes which is one more vote thane would have needed to win the state of georgia. this was something everybody heard.
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that investigation has publicly been much more active in some ways than the department of justice investigation since january 6. as i have come to learn, covering these criminal cases, you don't actually know the course and trajectory of an investigation until if and when there is some kind of indictment. >> the january 6 investigation is also going on where a bipartisan congressional committee is looking into the role that the former president might have played inciting the events of january 6 and also this larger attempt to thwart the counting and certification of the election. a lot of activity in that recently. what has been happening? >> they announced they will have more public hearings. they left us back in july with a lot of questions about the former president, his allies, the structure of the scheme.
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a lot of witnesses were coming forward. we know the hearings as planned were upended when they got additional information. we don't know exactly what they are going to present. they have kept everything very close to the vest in that committee. when we have seen the hearings, we have learned a lot and expect to do so at the future hearing as well. >> so many complicated cases going on. thank you for helping us wade through them all. amna: sweden's prime minister will step down tomorrow after conceding defeat in the country's general election. final results found a right-wing coalition with an anti-immigrant agenda has a narrow enough majority to orma government. -- to form a government. this seismic shift could have serious application for dozens
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of kurdish asylum-seekers. the price for sweden's bid to join nato. >> a long slow drive from some of the world's most tranquil countryside to hear a human story around one of the most burning geopolitical issues. on the road to northern sweden, close to the arctic circle. sweden's military status is on the verge of changing dramatically after 200 years of neutrality and avoiding conflict. russia's invasion of ukraine has pushed sweden into joining nato. but it's succession's and the balance because of a small group of people on turkey's most wanted list. we're heading north to meet one of those people whose fate could determine if turkey uses its veto to block sweden's ambitions.
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exiled kurdish leaders say of all the people that turkey demands be extradited, you will is the most vulnerable. she fled in 2015 to claim political asylum. the processes and thealance because the swedes won't accept her documentation. >> even to say you're kurdish in turkey is a risk. you can be imprisoned for it. someone who has stayed with the pkk, it means torture and death in turkey. >> she is afraid that agents will kidnap her. she is refusing to go to the turkish embassy to obtain papers required because she thinks she will disappear. the pkk is labeled as a terrorist organization by the u.s. state department and the european union. later, she says she jned the y pj, the kursh female defense force and took part in battles across the islamic state.
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despither part, they are afraid sweden will sacrifice the human rights principles. >> i am particularly afraid for my children. >> there are fears based on assurances. >> we take the turkish concerns very seriously. >> in the memorandum, we assured turkey that we would take the fight of terrorists seriously. >> they engage in tough negotiations for the memorandum a green -- agreed at the summit. the applications to join were approved by the alliance leaders. they insist they will not permit
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the swedes to water down the commitments on terrorism. >> the document is not a document, just to wake obligations or wishful thinking. the obligations are clear mechanisms the two are going to establish. >> this is a straightforward situation. starting to predict a handful of people. >> it is the most important thing. >> the image is a rural swedish mother, sharply contrasting to the turks as a terrorist. patriotic kurdish songs offer a glimpse of her identity. >> are you a terrorist? >> as far as turkey is concerned, i am a terrorist. but it support to understand
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that it was the turkish army that forced me to leave my village and joined the pkk. the turkish army stormed and destroyed our villages, killed children, and raped women. the turkish state forced me into the life i had. >> fears have triggered pro pkk demonstrations in stockholm. they interpreted the swedish tolerance of terrorism. as far as they're concerned, you are a terrorist. >> this person, that person, really. there are terrorists, yes, in sweden. took advantage of the system. so yeah, we want to some people to be extradited. >> sweden is home to 150,000 kurdish exiles.
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>> they see sweden as a mother and the mother has beaten the children and they don't understand what the mother has done. >> they are horrified by what he perceives as swedish pixelation. -- h and. -- capitulation. >> if they believe part -- putin was more dangerous than erdogan. >> sweden's former ambassador to the united nations says he is embarrassed. >> after months of talks between the two governments, it is a grand slam for everyone and a shame for sweden with the trail kurdish democrats. >> do you think turkey really has the hand here? do you not think sweden will stand up for its principles? people that have come to seek sanctuary? >> the trilateral agreement between turkey and sweden says
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differently. >> but there is a completely different perspective from berlin. it lists erdogan using the kurdish issue to push the u.s. to sell him the 35 fighter jet. >> more than anything. >> the country was kicked off the f-35 program after buying a russian missile defense system. >> it is an open-ended bargaining process. >> the u.s. has to say that they are not terrorists, just victims. they saved the world from isis and the war has to take tha >> they are a-game entertaining
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the elder son. she wants to raise her family in peace and has this message from presiden biden -- for president biden. >> erdogan's turkey kills women and civilians in the name of him saying they are supposedly fighting terror and terrorists. in the last few years, the u.s. has gotten to know kurds on their own terms in the fight against isis. not on erdogan's terms. >> they fight against the odds and if the latest battle keeps sweden out of nato, then as far as she is concerned, so be it. for the pbs newshour, in northern sweden. >> for years, scientists have warned about the dangerous consequences of climate change.
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more of the dire outcomes are more urgent than people realize. we are back with a new report showing how sea level rise will threaten homes and properties in hundreds of counties along the coast of the united states making many places unlovable and taking an enormous economic toll in the coming years. >> this report released shows thousands of homes and businesses in louisiana, texas, north carolina, and florida are in danger of being lost or damaged because of rising sea levels. the report says in 30 years, 4 million acres of land will be increasingly threatened by you -- routine flooding. over $100 billion worth of property could be in jeopardy as the coastlines of the u.s. continue to creep inland. don bain is a senior advisor at climate central and led this report. thank you for being here.
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your report indicates potentially hundreds of thousands of americans who bought or built along the coastlines of this country could see those structures seriously in danger. could you sketch out that distance? >> in particular, it describes how the line between private property and public tidelands moves as the water rises. we have this concept of floods as something that happens and it is only temporary and the water leaves. what we're talking about here is permanent flooding. as that line moves, that line is what each individual state uses to determine who owns the land. so for the first time where having to face the prospect that individual owners are going to
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lose their property. and the scale of problem as you see in the report is huge. by 2050, using a modest or intermediate climate model, we stand to lose about as many square miles as new jersey currently occupies. >> it is starting to think about that, a landmass the size of new jersey could be taken off the map of coastal areas all over this country. i mentioned some of the places most at risk. wire those places particularly vulnerable? >> sealevel rise is not evenly distributed. there are many reasons for this and the biggest is that the land is also moving. we are getting more than the average amount of sea level rise on the seacoast and the gulf coast. it is beginning at about the
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global average. not only is the water rising, but the land is sinking. this contributes to the problem and makes it worse. in addition, not every location is created equally. many of them have a slope that is very gradual. a foot of extra sea level can cause the water to run and lend hundreds of feet. -- and lend -- inland hundreds of feet. it is happening worse at some locations than others. >> as your report indicates, it's not just the trauma of individuals losing their homes or hotels or businesses that they have built along the coast. but it is also the economic impact that that would have, not just on those people but on their localities and counties tax base. >> this is a terrible problem if you lose your property or your business.
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but it's also important to know that local governments and our schools depend upon property taxes to fund education, local government services, and things that we count on. at the time that these waters are rising is when many cities will be facing increased expenses associated with repairing roads, fixing stormwater systems, and other interventions they may need to make in order to address the problem. at the same time we are losing potential tax revenue, the expenses may be going up. it is a double whammy. it is terrible. >> how much of this is baked in given the carbon we have put in the atmosphere and how long it will stay up there? how much of this is irreversible and how much of this they have some future control over?
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>> i would like to make it clear that we have choices to make. the choices that we make make a big difference, the choices we make between now and 2050 are baked in as a function of the scale of the oceans and the planetary system. we put a lot of heat into the ocean. >> local governments and people most on the front lines of this. >> the conversations we have been having have changed dramatically. we want to educate and inform people so that they can participate in the adaptation.
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>> thank you for this sobering report. amna: an iowa court has sentenced a teenage victim of sex trafficking to five years of probation and ordered her to pay $150,000 to her abuser's family. piper lewis ran away from an unstable home at the age of 15, repeatedly abused by multiple men and fatally stabbed one of them in 2020. she pleaded guilty to voluntary manslaughter. her case is underscoring a serious issue of justice. hundreds of victims of sexual abuse and trafficking have faced similar legal consequences and even decades in prison for killing their abusers. joining me is a survivor of
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human trafficking convicted of murdering one of her abusers when she was 16 and served 15 years of a life sentence before she was granted clemency in 2019. she is now a criminal justice reform advocate and author of "my search for redemption in the american prison system. welcome to the newshour. there are so many painful parallels between what you endured and what piper lewis has endured. i just have to ask, whenou first heard her story, what did you think? >> the story has unfortunately become all too familiar. she had an abusive home she was running array from -- away from. someone took advantage of her and exploded her vulnerabilities, needing to survive. whenever she woke up she wanted to fight back and wanted to be free.
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unfortunately, that has become the norm. >> they got five years in a residential correctional facility. how do you see this? >> i would not call it a complete picture of justice. it's better than what a lot of us had to endure. she is a victim and even though the prosecutors acknowledged that she was a victor. over the next five years, anything that she does could trigger her having to serve a 20 year sentence. so she is not truly free. and the fact she was ordered to
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pay $150,000. i would not call it justice exactly. however, it is a lot better than it could have been. >> that is saying a lot. we should point out that how cases are handled the pins on the state you live in and where this is all unfolding. the ohio case of alexis martin was convicted for killing her alleged trafficker and her sentence was commuted. but then a parole violation landed her back in prison just this spring. in wisconsin, crystal kaiser killed her abuser when she was just 17 and a still fighting in court years later to have evidence heard that her abuse is what led to her actions. what do all of these cases tell us about how the laws look at children who are victims of sex trafficking. >> we have a long way to go
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educating people. the life that we have to live, the things that we have two resort to just to survive. even in states where we do have mechanisms in place for prosecutors and judges to be lenient, young girls reacted from a place of trauma and were in need of services and not being incarcerated. sometimes the people who are involved in these cases don't necessarily see that. there was an affirmative defense on the books. they had a law that said she should be able to defend herself and that what happened to me was the direct cause of being exploited and trafficking. on the flipside in this case, we have individuals that saw she was needing treatment.
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there's not really a law on the books that could enable her to bypass the criminal justice system altogether and receive treatment as a victim. it tells me we need both of those to be working in tandem. we've got a little progress going. especially since i was first incarcerated but we have quite a bit to do. amna: what about the role of law enforcement and all of this? what do we need to understand about their role in these kinds of cases? >> nine times out of 10, these will be the first responders. they will be the first person that comes into contact. they have to have some level of discernment. this is a victim, not someone who is a criminal that i need to take to jail. maybe i needo call in a partner agency that works with
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survivors or maybe even of survivor representatives and see how we can help her. that is really a big part of it. amna: you said there is this idea of there being no perfect victim. when you think about piper lewis, what should people understand? >> if we see news stories about somebody getting snatched off the street and kidnapped, it is a given. let's support this person. this person is a victim. and you see other young girls who don't get that help early on. if no one is going to come to their rescue, they have to do what they have to do to help themselves. they are seen as not a victim because they were promiscuous and they chose to be on the street. we are not going to look at them
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as a victim and we see young black girls, they should've known better. there are certain individuals that we don't see as victims. even awareness initiatives, it looks the same. they are bound by ropes and locked in someone's dungeon. they are not living on the streets and she is with the older boyfriend because that's the only way that she can survive. >> a lot of work to be done and a long way to go. she is the author of the book friesen toya, my search for redemption in the american prison system. and online right now, we delve into the concept of quiet
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quitting, the idea that some workers are no longer willing to go above and beyond for their jobs without more pay. that is on our website right now . that is the newshour for tonight. join us online tomorrow evening. for all of us, thank you for joining us. we will see you soon. >> funding has been provided by. >> wireless service that helps people communicate and connect. we offer a variety of plans and they can help find one that fits you. visit consumer cellular.tv. >> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions and friends of the newshour including jim and nancy and kathy and paul anderson. the ford foundation working with visionaries on the front lines of social change worldwide.
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