♪ judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour tonight, after the storm, rescue workers continue the search for floridians trapped in their homes as the death toll rises and hundreds of thousands remain without power. then, the right to vote, the supreme court hears two redistricting cases with major implications for future elections and the control of congress. and, rethinking college, one university makes a major push for diversity on campus, but without considering race and gender in admissions. >> students learn more when they're going to university with students that have different experiences than they do. so having a diverse student body is really important for learning.

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♪ >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. judy: nearly a week after hurricane ian made landfall in florida, search and rescue teams are still on the job and southwestern florida. more than 100 people in the state were killed in the storm and its aftermath. according to the latest count

from several news organizations. and utility workers say it will likely take until the weekend for all power to be restored. more than 400,000 customers remain without electricity tonight. william brangham has the latest. william: days into the search and rescue efforts in ground zero of hurricane ian, fort myers, florida, emergency officials are still sorting through the wreckage. >> there's massive destruction, wood pilings that we can't actually see under. and there are voids sometimes under there. so, what we do is we rely on beasley all of our senses. william: rescuers are going door to door, accounting for those who decided to shelter in place, and who might still be missing. as of monday, florida state officials said more than 1,900 people had been rescued. but at the same time, ian's death toll is continuing to rise. in fort myers beach, residents are showing up for one another. >> we're helping our neighbors to get there and just

overwhelming because everybody needs help. who do you choose to help? william: some say they're worried officials will force them to evacuate. >> we really don't want to leave because this is all we have left, you know, and now they're not even letting homeowners back to the beach. william: the sheriff of lee county spoke to ose efforts today, after other residents complained that help has been slow in coming. >> it's a matter of accessing the people that that need that. but we are in place and those strike teams are taking people on and off the beach. i wish i could press a button and do it all right now. it just takes time. william: crews are also working tirelessly to restore power after the beating ian dealt to the electric grid. officials are hoping to have far more people powered back up by this weekend. in cuba, where the power situation became a point of national contention, most residents had their lights back on by monday. this after protests last week

over persistent blackouts when ian knocked power out on the entire island on september 27. >> this has been terrible. no light, no food, we lost everything in our freezer. awful. william: protests had subsided by sunday evening. >> ok, stop, stop, stop. william: back in florida, governor ron desantis pushed back on reporters who again asked about the timi of evacuation orders in lee county. >> we should be focusing on lifting people up and stop incessantly talking and trying to cast aspersions on people that we're doing the best job they could with imperfect information. william: president biden is scheled to travel to florida tomorrow. for the pbs newshour, i'm william brangham. ♪ judy: in the day's other news, wall strt extended its rally for a second day, with each of

the major stock indexes rising roughly 3%. the dow jones industrial average climbed 825 points to close at 30,316. the nasdaq rose 361 points. and the s&p 500 added 112. it's biggest day in more than two years. elon musk has again reversed course and agreed to buy twitter after months of legal battles. shareholders already approved the $44 billion deal but musk had been trying to back out. today's decision comes just two weeks before a trial was set to begin that sought to compel him to follow through on the agreement. president biden and japan's prime minister today discussed next steps following north korea's longest-ever ballistic missile test over japan. japanese officials estimate the nuclear capable missile traveled some 2800 miles before falling into the pacific ocean. north korea has test-fired about

40 missiles this year. japan's prime minister condemned the latest provocation. >> the ballistic missile firing by north korea was an outrageous act that was absolutely impermissible. we will respond as soon as possible with the utmost vigilance. i have instructed the government to check for damage caused by falling objects, thoroughly collect and analyze information, and cooperate with related countries. judy: u.s. and south korean warplanes also conducted joint military drills today off south korea's west coast as a show of strength. ukrainian military forces built on their momentum in southern ukraine today. president volodymyr zelenskyy said they'd liberated dozens of settlements this week alone, in spite of russian efforts to annex the area. meanwhile, russia's upper house rubberstamped a plan to annex four ukrainian regions. and, ukrainian president zelenskyy signed a decree that formally rules out any direct talks with russia on account of

the illegal annexation. in indonesia, an investigation into a deadly stampede after a soccer match found that delays in unlocking stadium gates contributed to the chaos. at least 131 people died in the crush saturday after police fired tear gas, hoping to control rioting fans. hundreds panicked and tried to escape through narrow exits that could only fit two people at a time. back in this country, a michigan judge dismissed criminal charges against seven former state government officials linked to the flint water crisis. they include two former health officials blamed for nine deaths from legionnaires' disease. the ruling comes three months after the michigan state supreme court said a one-judge grand jury had no authority to issue the indictments. georgia republican senate candidate herschel walker, a staunch abortion rights opponent, has denied a report

that he paid for his girlfriend's abortion in 2009. the daily beast website published the story after the woman provided a payment receipt for the procedure and a get-well card from walker. he called the accusation a, quote, "flat-out lie." this year's nobel prize in physics was awarded to a trio of scientists for their pioneering work in quantum information science. the recipients include american john clauser, alain aspect of france, and austrian anton zeilinger. clauser said the news took him by surprise. >> i had long ago stopped holding my breath that i might actually win one. but of course every scientist wants to win a nobel prize. so i don't know what else to say. i'm very happy to get the news. judy: congratulations. their groundbreaking research has helped pave the way for a new generation of powerfully encrypted computers and telecommunications systems. and,

country music icon loretta lynn died today at her home in tennessee. her music reflected pride in her humble beginnings, and painted a picture of her life as a woman and mother in appalachia with raw honesty. lynn's biggest hits came in the 1960's and '70s, with songs like coal miner's daughter and you ain't woman enough. loretta lynn was 90 years old. we'll have more on her legacy later in the program. still to come on the newshour, journalist maggie haberman tries to explain what drives former president trump in her new book. vice president mike pence's former chief of staff discusses trump's influence in the republican party. an investigation into abuse in women's professional soccer prompts calls for imdiate change. plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour, from w eta studios in

washington, and in the west, from the walter cronkite cooler journalism at arizona state university. judy: today the supreme court heard oral arguments in one of the biggest cases of the new term. it's about the role of race in drawing congressional maps. john yang has the story. john judy, the specific question : at issue is whether alabama's congressional map violates what's left of the voting rights act, a provision barring discriminatory practices or procedures. lisa desjardins stts us off with an explanation of what's at stake. lisa: happening in detroit and around atlanta, a change in political capitals like tallahassee and cultural ones like new orleans. >> i think there will be fewer minority and majority do issues -- is -- districts after this election. lisa: limiting black districts as they pass new voting laws. >> you have to think about how all of these things are working

together to push us toward a reality in which minority voters are unrepresented in our system, and that's definitely a problem. lisa: in florida, currently four districts have minority or otherwise favor black voting districts but the new maps cut that in half, a seat in the north was erased. in north carolina, the state's primary african-american district in the northeast black belt was redrawn, and blacks are no larger the largest voting group. michigan moved from two majority black districts to none, that from population loss. but in georgia, blacks or a third of the population and growing, and still will lose two majority districts. for others, it's a question of proportion. alabama is a quarter black, louisiana one third, both have just one majority black district. critics took those maps to the

supreme court which is looking at alabama first. >> it's a case-by-case basis, where you have to look at the actual facts of east situation. lisa: the senior legal fellow at the conservative heritage foundation says underneath years of complicated supreme court rulings, a bottom line for the right is that race can be a factor in drawing maps, but -- >> there should be a minimal map, but more important is compactness, keeping political subdivisions, towns, cities, counties together. >> i think it's avoiding centuries of oppression that has been systemic. lisa: a student movement sees current maps as part of any erosion of rights. >> there are some i have talked to that will not be staying in louisiana after they graduate. there are also students who see this as a final straw.

lisa: they're waiting for the supreme court to decide in what could be a landmark case over redistricting and the politics of race in america. john and n to help us unpack : today's oral arguments, our regular expert on all things supreme court, marcia coyle, chief washington correspondent for the national law journal. marcia, you were in the courtroom today. right off the top, justice elena kagan said that as far she was concerned, this case was a slamdunk in favor of a second majority black district and against alabama. let's listen to part of what she said. >> you are looking at a state where 27% of the population is african-american, but only one of seven districts where there was a long history of racial discrimination in the state. john: at the time, technically, she was talking to the alabama solicitor general, but that -- was that her intended audience? >> i think partially.

i think she was talking to her colleagues. she had noted back in february, of the supreme court, five of the six conservative justices had voted to allow alabama's map to go into effect for the 2022 election, even though a three-judge district court, which included two trump appointees, had found that it likely violated the voting rights act and had ordered alabama to go back to the drawing board and could produce a map for a second district in time for the 2022 midterms. she wrote a dissent there and sharply accused the court really of sending a message without briefing, oral argument or written opinions that the law was going to change. so i think she was very much talking to the court, and also she was pressing the alabama lawyer, by saying the three-judge -- judges on the district court said this was an easy case, why are we here?

john: justice ketanji brown jackson also sending some messages today. >> the alabama lawyer was saying basically, his broadus argument was that redistricting should be race control. ray should not be considered. because when race is considered, he said, you end up with maps like his opponents produced, which are racially gerrymandered. he also said that he considered race to be violating the 14th amendment. but justice jackson said i've researched the constitution, of study what the framers thought and what they read and i looked at the amendments post reconstruction, and it's very clear that they were trying to bring equality to black americans who had been treated unfairly, which is exactly what section two is doing, she said. so the constitution is not colorblind. i think that was either direct

or indirect a message to justices like justice thomas who argued consistently in almost every race case that the constitution is colorblind. john: there was also a lot of discussion about the intent of diluting minority voting power and the effect of it. let's take a listen to what two of the justices had to say, justice jackson and justice samuel alito. >> you have enough people who are in marginalized groups that another district is possible. people are being segregated in effect, as justice kagan pointed out. we are talking about the effect, not intent. >> forget about intent, what are the results when you do a computer simulation that takes into account all race neutral districting factors. this is a computer, it doesn't have any intent. the result is that you don't get the second majority-minority

district. john: why is that distinction so important? >> first of all, it appeared that the alabama lawyer sai in his brief to the supreme court that, she characterized it as intent is all over it. many years ago, the supreme court did say you had to prove discriminatory intent in order to make a section two complaint. but congress reversed that and made it very clear that you don't have to prove intentional discrimination, which, by the way, is extremely difficult to prove. instead, congress had you have to show a discriminatory result or a discriminatory effect of the voting practice that is being challenged. and so i think that justice jackson was pointing out, here is what we have on the ground, we have discriminatory results, and any argument you make for intent just isn't relevant, because intent is not required. john: there was also it seemed a lot of skepticism from all sides

for some of the more extreme positions that the alabama lawyer was taking. let's listen to a question posed by chief justice john roberts. >> what exactly is your submission, and why your argument is not an effort to resuscitate the intent test that congress has rejected under section two? >> there was a lot of confusion about -- i don't know how serious the confusion is, but from the questions, they seem to feel the alabama lawyer was not being very clear on exactly what he wanted the court to do here. as justice kagan pointed out, it seemed to be he was arguing you have to have intentional discrimination. so after all the questions about what are you arguing here, he put it to him, what do you want? what are you arguing? the yelp -- the lawyer stressed a race neutral plan, eliminate race.

he also was pressed by several lawyers and several justices for, isn't there a narrower approach here on, say, justices amy coney barrett, justice kavanaugh, and even the chief justice to a certain extent, who are looking for a narrower approach than no race at all. maybe we should be focusing on one of those redistricting principles like compactness. what does the district look like and is it shaped right, or is it one of tse crazily shaped districts like a dragon or a snake? i think several are looking for a narrower approach. i don't think that would satisfy the justices on the left. as justice kagan pointed out, very markedly, she said the voting rights act, she called the greatest achvement of american democracy, had not fared well in this court. she pointed to recent decisions where the court had pretty much gutted one section and narrowed the reach of section two already.

john: our very own chief justice marcia coyle, thank you very much. marsha: thank you, john. judy: a number of news reporters have tried and are still trying to understand former president donald trump and his influence on our nation's politics today. one who has undoubtedly spent more time covering him than any other is new york times white house correspondent maggie haberman who has been covering mr. trump since the 1990's. she is out with a new book, and i spoke with her about it this afternoon. maggie haberman, thank you so much for joining us. congratulations on the book. i know a lot of people have been waiting to see this. you are considered the reporter who goes back longer with donald trump than anyone else and who

understands him better than any other reporter. i want to start with, ihink a question that is all about what keeps him in the news, and that is his denial of the result of the 2020 election, insisting that he actually won. this is something he believes to be true, or what? we know it is not true. how do you explain it? maggie: it's a really good question, judy, thank you for having me to talk about the book. clearly in my reporting, and i describe this, in the first few days after the november 2020 election, he seemed aware that he had lost, in his conversations with a number of aids. then by the second week, something had just switched, and he was insisting that he had won, he was telling people he wasn't going to leave. is very hard to know now whether he really believes this or whether it is just somethinge is saying. one of the things he said to me

in one of our interviews was that he uses repetition and interviews to feed something into, and i quote, my beautiful brain. he is aware that if you repeat something over and over again, it can turn it into something real. judy: we know that he -- and you have written this, he has used the truth as something -- he views the truth as something that is transactional. how does he see the truth? how does he take in facts? does he just create a different factual universe? how does he do this? maggie: i don't know if you're miliar with the book "harold and the purple crayon." i use that metaphor to describe him in 2017. it's obviously not benign, there is malevolence about how he does this a lot of the time.

he treats facts as things that can either be discarded or created or augmented. but facts are an ongoing fluid thing with him. this is one of thehings that makes establishing a baseline of discernible truth around him so difficult. dy: do you think he knows what is real and what isn't? maggie: i think sometimes he does, and sometimes he seems less clear. i think he is extremely suggestible and extremely paranoid. so it is easy for people to convince him that something is true when it is not. judy: there is a long list of people who he has little, people who has been loyal to him, ike senator lindsey graham. kevin mccarthy, he has called him a weakling. i could name many others. no he does this. is there anyone in political life he truly admires? maggie: honestly, the first name that came to mind is richard

nixon, with huge fascination. but i think of u.s. political leaders who are alive right now, i'm very hard-pressed to point to a single person that he really admires, unless they are fighting for him. he admires autocrats in other countries.he was constantly looa relationship in the past and kept it going out of office, still, in his admiration. i can think of anyone whose behavior in typical u.s. political fashion that he admires right now. judy: sensitive subject, but there are a number of incidents that happened during his presidency to lead people to say that he is racist. most recently, just in the last few days, he put out a statement about elaine chao, the wife of

senator mitch mcconnell. do you think at his core that he is racist? maggie: i think he has a long pattern of racist behavior, going back to when he was in new york city, and we clearly saw it continue in the white house. attacking elijah cummings in baltimore, a city that is part of the united states, whether he was attacking a congresswoman of color, whether he was getting into various condemnations or lack thereof, i should say, of white supremacist, whether it was flirting with you in. his behavior is really what matters on this front. what exactly is in his heart i think becomes irrelevant. he is behaving in a racist way. judy: he has called you essentially like his psychiatrist, whether you agree

with that term or not. but that's what he has said. i am quoting now mary trump, his knees, who among other things has said he has what she calls narcissistic personality disorder. she goes on to talk about a fragile ego that has to be constantly fed, and so on. my question to you is, what do you think he cares about the most, or at his core, what do he care about? maggie: i want to go back to the psychiatrist line. he said that to me in one of our interviews, and it was meant to letter. he treats everyone as a psychiatrist because he is working everything out in real-time. what he needs is attention. i think his niece is right because she knows the family dynamic and all these family stories really well, better than anyone. i do think he needs whatever he doesn't have, and whatever that might be in a given moment. judy: you have said that he may

have backed himself into a corner and it comes to whether he's going to run for president again. and forhat reason, he may do it. but if he does, what do you think a second donald trump presidency, term, would look like? maggie: i think to quote someone who knew him years ago, said this to me a couple of months back. a second trump presidency would be heavily driven by spite. i don't believe that he learned how to be president more astutely. i don't think he figured the office out. but i do think he figured out personnel, which is oen what he focused on. i think the people who would be be that she would be put in key jobs would be very alarming to a number of people across washington. i think that's what a second trump presidency would look like. judy: maggie haberman, the reporter who has known donald trump lover than anyone.

her book is "confidence man." thank you. ♪ judy: former president donald trump's influence over the gop still looms large. todahe ramped up his fight with the justice department over classified documents found by the fbi at his home in florida. with an appeal to the supreme court to doubt -- to deny them access. work short served in the trump house. he was later chief of staff to former vice president mike pence and he works with him now. welcome back to the newshour, mark short. thank you for being here. we knew, and we are not surprised, but former president trump is taking this appeal all the way to the supreme court to deny the justice department ability to review these documents. you have said that what the fbi did is questionable.

but if it is cruise and -- proven that the documents he had were classified, should he be held accountable in some way, or should he just be given a free pass? mark: i think it probably depends on the severity of the classification. i feel like it is hard to justify if he truly has significant classified information at mar-a-lago, just as hillary clinton was criticized for having documents on her personal server. i think it would be hypocritical to say it is wrong for her and ok for president trump. i think there are concerns, and there were when president trump came into office, because jim comey at the time clearly had a political agenda. i think they were pushing a false dossier and jim comey lied when he said you are not a target of investigation.

to allow the president to carry out his -- judy: you are continuing to work with former vice president pence, his organization, nonprofit organization advancing american freedom. you have said that you don't think he's going to make a decision until next year about whether he is going to run for president again, but what do you think the odds are? mark: i think he is encouraged by traveling the country and the feedback he gets and the candidates he is campaigning for. i think this is a very peonal decision for him and his wife, and i think the way they have always considered every opportunity he's had, whether running for congress, running for governor. i think that right now, his focus is going to be on the midterms. last night he was in kentucky,

this week on thursday he will be in new mexico campaigning for a republican candidate there. he is traveling the country to try to make sure republicans when this rm. judy: i also want to ask about the january 6 committee. you have testified before them behind closed doors. do you think there is any possibility that former vice president pence would do so? you have said what the committee's structure is is partisan, but at the same time, we know they've turned up a lot of information, almost all of it from republicans, from former members of the trump administration. mark: i did testify under subpoena in front of the committee. they treated me very respectfully, but i do think there are concerns about the partisan makeup of the committee. i also think there is even greater concerns from a

historical precedent for a vice president to testify in front of a separate range of government in hearing of this nature. i think it would create a great challenge for the future, because if vice president pence is compelled to testify in front of a committee like this, what does that mean for future president-vice presidential relationships? the council he is receiving from a vice president that is private, and the very specific conversations they had. i think the committee has all the other information they need from public records, and keep in mind, vice president pentz wrote an open letter to the american people about the decisions he made on january 6, sit is not really a secret. judy: it sounds like your ruling it out. let's turn to the midterm elections, they are just five weeks away from today. in a nutshell, what do you think is going to happen? mark: i think it will be a win

for republicans, a pretty decisive win. i think americans are struggling with crime rising across our country. the situation at the border, inflation continues to hurt families pocketbooks, and we are going deep into a recession. i think those will be the driving issues 35 days from now. i think it will deliver a decisive win for republicans. exactly how many is hard to predict but i think we will see a house majority and a couple more picks up -- pickups in governor races. judy: if the republicans take the majority in the house, and if you have a number of these senate races where republicans do well, republicans have been endorsed by president trump, pennsylvania, ohio, arizona, nevada. is the republican party in essentially the trump party? mark: i think president trump still has a strong control of the party.

he made an enormous contribution to the party during his four years as president. i don't think it would be in any way abnormal for the president to have enormous influence. what the future holds past the midterm election is still a great uncertainty. judy: uncertainty, but this would be an enormous victory for him, wouldn't it? if the candidates he endord too well and the senate and sup flipping. -- senate ends up flipping. mark: to garner 35% for primary candidates, whether in ohio, pennsylvania, multiple places where he was behind, in multicandidate races, that was sufficient to win primaries. we will see how that plays out in the general. it's more of a referendum on joe biden's presidency that those candidates will win, along with

other candidates. i don't think that is conclusive as to what his influence will be moving forward. judy: i know you've been asked this before, but if former president trump does run and is the republican nominee in 2024, is there any doubt that former vice president pence and you would support him? mark: there is a long way to go and i think there will be a lot of candidates running. i think there is a lot to play out before those decisions are made. judy: so no commitment. mark: i think a lot of candidates will be running in the 2024 cycle. we have to let the 2022 midterms play out first. judy: mark short, thank you very much. mark: thank you for having me. ♪ judy: past supreme court rulings have allowed colleges to consider race in their

admissions processes. and about 40% do. if the justices we'll revision -- revisit the issue under this month and could oversee years of precedent. john yang recently visited the university that has been making a big push. he is back now with this report, or series, rethinking college. john: the university of california berkeley accepted only about 11% of applicant for this year's freshman class, which is one of the most diverse in decades. nearly 70% are u.s. students of color. the universities trying to boost the number students it defines as underrepresented. that includes african-americans, latinx, native americans, alaskan natives, and pacific islanders. they've made some progress, but diversity number still have not returned to where they were in the 1990's.

in 1996, california voters approved a ballot initiative, proposition 29. it said that race, ethnicity and sex could not be used in hiring or admissions decisions at state institutions, including colleges and universities. the result, a dramatic drop in the number of underrepresented nordic students. >> proposition 209 had a devastating impact on diversity on the berkeley campus. our percentages of underrepresented minorities dropped by about 50%. john: the berkeley chancellor, since she jned the faculty in 1970, she says she has seen the student body go from being largely white to be more diverse and inclusive in the 1990's. >> we live in a diverse world. students learn more when they are going to school, when they are going to university with students that have different beliefs, that have different experiences stained it -- than they do. having a diverse s

really important for learning. also to be a healthy state, it is important for opportunity for every young man or woman in the state of california that they have an equal shot at going to a place like berkeley or ucla or uc san diego. john: studies found that after they could no longer consider race or ethnicity, the student body became less diverse especially at the two mt selective schools. in 2018, a yearfter coming chancellor, she launched an initia pativepro imdiove itversy. it wg of the head of admissions. >> it's critically important for us as an institution to make a role -- make sure we have equitable admissions processes. john: she previously worked at stanford and cornell and changed

how his team judges applicants. >> it allows us to take a look at students in the context of where they are cominfrom. everything from the curriculum they are attempting to the extracurricular activities available to them in their schools, we are measuring students against what is available to them, rather than comparing students. john: to get a better sense of applicants backgrounds, they began using race neutral tools like a college board database of socioeconomic information about their neighborhoods and academic offerings at their high schools. he also edited diversity team to the admissions office, expanded outreach around the state and made other changes. >> it was important we had materials in a language that parents could absorb, that they were comfortable so they could engage in that conversation.

john: every year berkeley brings high school guidance counselors and college counselors from around the state. he says they are increasingly important as the university tries to reach more underrepresented students. >> you -- a majority of our applicant pool is strong enough to get in here. let's have a conversation about the deeper nuances we need to consider to make sure that excellence emerges in the conversation. don: the changes are showing results. this year's enrollment was about 24%, up from 17% in 2017. >> i think we are all going to be learning from the university of california system. john: angel says the approach could be helpful for schools around the country if the supreme court overturns affirmative action. as the ceo of the national association for college admission counseling, which

represents more than 25,000 admission and counseling professions. >> they are some of the pioneers in creating more partnership programs, partnering with high schools or community-based organizations and creating programs for students can do work before they actually become high school seniors, so that they become eligible for the requirements for admission to get to the uc. they have had some pretty good success. john: berkeley is focusing or tension on minority students on campus experiences. >> this year i have classes where i am the only lack student. john: a senior majoring in political economy is student body president, the first in school history to be elected twice. he says there has been progress, but problems remain. >> it is a common phenomenon,

especially in the black community, to not have a sense of belonging. really everyone that walks in here at some point in time will have a sense of imposter syndrome, meaning the doubt when house on whether or not they actually belong in an environment. when you're the only one in certain classrooms, that is exacerbated re-tim over. it's going to be much harder to actually reap the benefits and fully embrace the wonderful things that berkeley has to offer. john: the head of admission says it is more difficult to achieve diversity without being able to consider race and ethnicity in choosing students. >> we have not returned back to pre-prop 209 numbers. take a look at the millions of dollars uc and berkeley have spent to try to get the diversity numbers. we were much more in line with the high school graduate

population in regard to diversity versus acceptance. if you ask me if i think we could do better work with the ability to consider those factors, the answer is yes, absolutely. john: an ability schools around the country could lose after the supreme court's ruling, which could come during the process of admitting the class of 2027. for the pbs newshour, i'm john yang in berkeley, california. ♪ judy: a year-long independent investigation into the u.s. national women's soccer league found systemic patterns of emotional abuse and sexual misconduct, and that the league, as well as the u.s. soccer federation, failed to address players' complaints for years. amna nawaz has our report. amna: judy, the report documents allegations of verbal and sexual abuse across multiple teams, shows how players' complaints were dismissed by league

officials and lays out in , disturbing detail the misconduct of three past coaches. according to the report, former racing louisville coach christy holly used his power to sexually abuse and retaliate against his players. paul riley, former coach of the north carolina courage coerced , players to have sex with him, and his abuse was a so-called open secret, and chicago red stars former coach rory dames was known for his tirades and quote crossed the line into sexual relationships with his former youth league players. the investigation was led by former deputy attorney general sally yates who joins me now. welcome back to the newshour. thank you for joining us. i want to ask about how you chose to begin your report. we begin with the story, and it's the story of an april 21 account of when she was abused by her then coach. tell me why you chose to begin with that particular story.

>> well, as we were investigating, i saw just how prevalent the instances of abuse were. we thought it was going to be really important to really tell this as a story, for it not to be at a 10,000 foot level, where you're getting an overview, and people can look away. it seemed really important for everyone to have to look close and personal at individuals and the women who suffered. >> the abuse you find in your report was systemic and you also say inevitable. what did you mean by that >> the league was founded after two prior leaks had failed. there were issues with the abuse and misconductn prior leaks. many say one such incident was a big cause of the failure, so against that backdrop, the very

idea that it was s up without any basic protections in place is just crazy. and not just for the first year, but it went on year after year. in some instances, what did they expect to happen, without having set up those protections? amna: we should point out in each of these cases people complained. they went to the commissioner in one case. what did you find out about the league and how the u.s. soccer federation responded? >> after this first came out, i heard people say the player should have complained. well, they did complain in various ways, through player surveys, going to team ownership, going to the league, going to the federation. those complaints were generally either ignored completely, or sometimes there were some

individuals, particularly owners, who would describe bad motives to the players for king these complaints. amna: you conducted over 200 interviews for this and that includes over 100 former players. how many of those players experience some kind of abuse? >> i will confess i haven't gone back and tallied it up, but most of the players we spoke with either had witnessed or experienced it personally themselves. and at varying levels. i'm certainly not suggesting that every player was abused or that every coach is abusive, but this climate, this environment was familiar to most of the players. amna: three of the players you name in the report who did come forward with abuse complaints issued this statement yesterday after the report. in part of it they say, no one involved has taken any responsibility for the clear role they played in harming

players. they're calling for accountability and change and they say they want owners who have been complicit to be removed. what do you make of that? >> i certainly understand this. everyone is interested and anxious to move forward. but i don't think it is very reistic to think that anyone or the players can move forward without there being some measure of accountability for what's happened in the past. and accountability begins first with taking responsibility for one's actions. so i think that is basic human nature, and that is what the players are asking for. amna: you mentioned you soccer and youth league several times. these coaches named in here all had ties to you soccer leagues. you also say your investigation was just focused on the professional league and did not pursue information that came up on youth leagues. but millions of parents will read that and they will be worried. what should they know about wers

about their experiences in youth soccer. there is a range of conduct here in the abuse. that one of the really common threads we heard was that these young players not used to being verbally abused by their coaches. and frankly, some of the parents i think got used to that as well. there were also very gray lines in the relationships between players and coaches. i think we all need to wake up and step up and look at what is going on in our youth leagues, and take control of that. amna: that's former deputy attorney general sally yates joining us with this report on the national women's soccer league. >> thanks for having me.

♪ judy: loretta lynn was the original coal miner's daughter, a title taken from her hit song. the legendary country singer died today at the age of leaving 90, a legacy of more than six decades of boundary-breaking music. in 2019, several generations of nashville stars came out for a concert celebrating lynn's birthday. jeffrey brown was there and spoke with her about her life and career, beginning with her humble roots in a tiny coal-mining community in kentucky. here's an excerpt, part of our arts and culture series, canvas. loretta lynn: this is my first birthday party i ever had. jeffrey: oh, really? loretta lynn: yes. when i was a little girl, mommy would say, well, today, you're 5 years old. next time, today, you're 6. i never had a birthday. jeffrey: well, now you deserve it, i guess. loretta lynn: well, i'm loving it.

jeffrey: what was the ambition back then? loretta lynn: you know, you never dare to dream big, because, where have you been to dream? how could you dream when you have never seen nothing or never been nowhere. never been to town, so i -- you didn't dare dream. ♪ jeffrey: her first hit, i'm a honky tonk girl, came in 1960, and set her on a trailblazing path. first woman in country music to write a number one hit song, you ain't woman enough to take my man; first to be named country music association entertainer of the year, and to have more than 50 top 10 country hits. what's the key to writing a good song? what does it have to have? loretta lynn: it's got to have the person. jeffrey: the person meaning you? loretta lynn: it's got to have the heart and soul of a person that's writing it. jeffrey: that sounds simple, but it can't be simple to capture

the real person. loretta lynn: it's not simple, because it's hard on the writer. i used to lock myself up, shut myself in a room, before i would get through with a song. wouldn't come out until i got it wrote. jeffrey: and when did you know that you had it, that it was done? loretta lynn: well, i would know when i had it done. if you don't know when you have it done, you shouldn't be writing. ♪ jeffrey: she was a strong voice for women in a conservative industry, a powerhouse in a business run by men, making herself a multimillionaire. you know, we all know you as a great artist, but i understand you have always been a great businesswoman, as well. loretta lynn: pretty good. jeffrey: was that -- you took care of things? loretta lynn: yes, i did. jeffrey: because you had to? did you have to learn how to do that? loretta lynn: if you're hungry, yes. you learn how to make a living if you're hungry. jeffrey: so what's been the key to surviving and thriving for so

long in this business >> loretta lynn: you have to be smart. hard work, and smart. that's all it takes. if you have got a little talent, you can go a long way, if you're smart and put the work in it. ♪ judy: what an icon, loretta lynn. premiering tomorrow on pbs: our own newshour team -- william brangham hosts a special report on gun violence in america. >> that gun took everything from me. william gun violence is plaguing : this country. >> some guy with an ar-15 just murdered my daughter. >> my mom called and said, david shot himself.

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