♪ amna: good evening and welcome. i'm amna nawaz. judy woodruff is on assignment. on "the newshour" tonight... one week away -- as election day approaches, how inflation, abortion rights, and threats to democracy are swaying voters in arizona. judy: and here in the swing state of ohio, i sit down with republican liz cheney to discuss the rise in political violence, the january 6th committee and the future of the gop. rep. cheney: you can't give power to people who have told us they won't respect the outcome of elections. that's more important than any party belief. it's more important than any policy. oil companies post massive profits as consumers feel the squeeze from high prices. all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour."

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♪ >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. amna: we begin in brazil, where president jair bolsonaro spoke publicly today for the first time since his re-election defeat. but he did not concede the election, and did not call off protests by his supporters. jane ferguson has our report. jane: it was as close to a concession speech as brazil was going to get.

in his first appearance since losing the bitterly fought election nearly two days ago, brazil's soon-to-be former president jair bolsonaro struck a proud and defiant tone, emphasizing his party's gains in congress. pres. bolsonaro: our robust representation in congress shows the strength of our values -- go homeland, family, and freedom. we have created many leaders throughout brazil. our dreams continue more alive than ever. we stand with order and progress. i have always been labeled as anti-democratic, and, different from my accusers, i have always played within the limits of the constitution. while president of the republic, this citizen, i will continue to follow all commandments of our constitution. jane: bolsonaro, a close ally of former president donald trump, shocked many with his silence after the race was called for his leftist opponent luiz inacio lula da silva, known as lula. but in bolsonaro's 44-hour absence, his supporters have continued filling the void with

noise. truckers flooded hundreds of major roads in most of brazil's 26 states, protesting his loss and perpetrating the false notion that the election was fraudulent. >> the current popular movements are the fruit of indignation and a eling of injustice about how the election process took place. our methods cannot be those of the left, which have always harmed the population, such as the invasion of property, destruction of heritage, and restrictn of the right to come and go. the right has really emerged in our country. jane: and though bolsonaro refused to mention lula's name, his supporters had plenty to say about him. jaba: he should be in jail and not contending for an election. brazil is ours. we don't accept such mismanagement, a thief like lula, who robs our nation and today wants to come back to power. jane: some knelt on roadsides to pray for the outcome's impossible reversal. the highways they blockaded shut off access to the country's largest airport and started to impact the essential transportation of food and fuel.

but the supreme court soon ordered federal highway police to begin forcibly removing people. dir. territo: since sunday, we have been working on this protocol that was passed, starting with negotiations, as well as dialogue and, if necessary, the use of the shock force. jane: across the world, leaders reacted to the victory. president biden called lula, who led the country for two previous terms before being jailed on later-overturned corruption charges, to offer u.s. backing. his office said he commended "resilient democratic institutions following free, fair and credible elections." back in brazil, it was left to bolsonaro's chief of staff to say what the outgoing president would not >> the president has authorized me to begin the transition to president lula. jane: that transition completes two months from today, on january 1, 2023. for "the pbs newshour," i'm jane

ferguson. judy: amna: -- amna: israel has held national elections today, and former prime minister benjamin netanyahu may be returning to power. he is still on trial for corruption, but exit polls show his right-wing bloc had a stronger-than-expected showing and could win a bare majority in parliament. this is israel's 5th election in less than 4 years. the man accused of attacking house speaker nancy pelosi's husband paul pleaded not guilty today to attempted murder and other state charges. david depape appeared in a san francisco court. he was ordered held without bail depape also faces federal charges of assault and attempted kidnapping. families in florida got the chance today to confront parkland school shooter nikolas cruz. his 2018 attack killed 17 students and staffers. at today's sentencing hearing, some cursed uz, while others wished him a painful death. they included eric wikander, whose son ben survived but needed 7 surgeries, and debra hixon, whose husband chris died trying to save students. wikander: we hope that you the

monster who did this to our son endure a painful existence in your remaining days. whatever pain you experience in prison, unfortunately will be a fraction of what ben endured. hixon: i wish nothing for you today. after today, i don't care what happens to you. you'll be sent to jail. you'll be getting your punishment, you'll be a number and for me, you will cease to exist. amna: the hearing concludes tomorrow. a jury could not agree on a death sentence, so cruz will be given life in prison. halloween night gun violence has claimed the life of grammy-nominated rapper takeoff. one third of the group migos and born kirsnick khari ball, he was fatally shot outside a bowling alley in houston early today. he was 28 years old. hours earlier in chicago, a drive-by shooting injured up to 15 people, including 3 children, aged 13, 11, and 3-years old. there've been no arrests in either case. in ukraine, russian rockets and drones struck more cities and towns today. meanwhile in kyiv, pockets of

power and water service were restored after monday's barrage. thousands of people across ukraine are enduring rolling blackouts. officials say russia's intensified shelling has destroyed about 40 percent of ukraine's energy systems. top officials in south korea have apologized after a crowd surge killed more than 150 people celebrating halloween. police received multiple warning calls saturday night as tens of thousands of people crowded a nightlife district in seoul. today, the head of the national lice said officers failed to tervene. com. yoon: i feel a heavy responsibility for the disaster as police chief. i feel an infinite responsibility for public safety and we will do our best to prevent such a tragic event from happening again. amna: meanwhile, ndreds of abandoned shoes and other personal items were laid out at a badminton court, that allowed victims families to collect

their belongings. the indian prime minister visited the site of a collapsed pedestrian bridge where 150 three people died on sunday, in his home state. he called for an extensive investigation into the cause of the collapse. new breakouts of covid-19 roiling china. authorities held visitors inside shanghai disney for hours today. park security formed lines to prevent anyone from leaving until they tested negative. the testing regime includes more than 400,000 people across the city. back in this country -- the supreme court rejected senator lindsey graham's bid to avoid testifying in a georgia probe oh 20 then-president trump to overturn the state's results. graham is a south carolina republican. he argued that as a senator he cannot be forced to testify. the court said he's free to object to individual questions. supreme court chief justice john roberts put a hold today on turning over former president trump's tax returns a

congressional committee. that gives the full court time to weigh mr. trump's emergency appeal, filed on monday. the house ways and means committee is investigating his compliance with tax laws. and on wall street -- stocks struggled a day before the federal reserve is expected to raise interest rates again. the dow jones industrial average lost 79 points to close at 32,653. the nasdaq fell 97 points. the s&p 500 slipped almost 16 points. still to come on "the newshour"... representative liz cheney talks with judy woodruff about threats to american democracy... u2 singer bono discusses his long career in music and activism... plus much more. >> this is "the pbs newshour" from weta studios in washington, and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. amna: we are one week out from election day, but early voting

has been underway in arizona for weeks. the stakes are high, with a senate race that could determine that chamber's balance of power and a governor's race that has a republican election denier leading in polls. our stephanie sy reports on the issues energizing voters in the grand canyon state. stephanie: on a recent sunday, the worship band at first united urch of christ opened with lady gaga's "born this way," an empowering ode to lgbtq and racial minorities. in this phoenix church, righteousness is not reserved for the far right. pastor susan valiquette preaches what she calls a gospel of inclusion that will guide her and her congregants at the ballot box. pastor valiquette: we look for politicians that are going to be looking out for the people who are most marginalized the way that jesus did. stephanie: the marginalized she

says includes asylum seekers at arizona's southern border, people of varying gender identity, and these days, women of reproductive age. pastor valiquette: we have labeled people who are seeking abortions in a particular way that gives them labels but doesn't hear their stories and we'vetopped responding in compassion. stephanie: one of those stories is monica schutz's. she sat in the pews with her husband, michael. before they had their three year old leo and baby ava, monica suffered from years of trying to conceive. she had a series of three miscarriages, then two years o unexplained infertility, until she finally t pregnant again, progressing to 20 weeks. moni: after that, things kind of unfortunately went downhill. stephanie: doctors discovered a genetic issue affecting her and her fetus's health. monica: so best case scenario, the pregnancy would have carried

out to term, the fetus would have been born and would have cried to death. worst case, i would have spontaneously terminatednd could have hemorrhaged, could have lost my uterus, could have closed the door on fertility entirely. stephanie: they did not take the decision lightly. monica: the best, most merciful choice was to, you know, be responsible for for that fetus's health care and my own. and we felt that was really in line with god in and why he gave us that choice. stephanie: monica decided to terminate that pregnancy when it was still a federally protected right. monica: doctors understand what needs to happen in that medical room, not lawmakers. and so that's why i will not be voting for any of the republican candidates. stephanie: arizona restricted abortion soon after roe v wade was overturned, activating voters on both sides of the

debate. melody: i'm pro-life. i am a christian. i believe all the things in the bible and a lot of times the liberals are totally opposite of what i believe. stephanie: it's a central issue in the key senate race between democratic incumbent mark kelly and republican blake masters. masters: look i support a ban on very late term and partial birth abortion and most americans agree with that. sen. kelly: my opponent, blake masters, he wants a national abortion ban that's so strict that even in the case when a woman is raped, she will not have the option to make this decision. stephanie: but reproductive rights are only one issue on the ballot. for many voters, the economy and rising prices on everything from hot dogs to carnival rides is the biggest concern. the arizona state fair is a yearly outing for many families, but this year it's an indulgence. rides aside, the prices were

enough to make fair-goers' stomachs turn. inflation in phoenix is at 13%, the highest in the nation. voter melody christy, who recently moved here from california, says it's still more affordable than orange county where on her teacher's salary, she couldn't afford a house. melody: because it's so much cheaper than california, we have not really seen that big of a difference, like it's been easier for us. but i would say that if the prices continue to go up, we will have to make some sacrifices. stephanie: shes voting all-republican in the coming election. as is richard shaw, a police officer. he says inflation is even making his favorite hobby too expensive. richard: i'm a shooter, so yeah, that's changed. i can't find primers. stephanie: what are primers? richard: primers is what caused the initial spark in the gun and the ammunition. and i can't find those. and when you can't find them, you're spending three times as

much. stephanie: besides his real concerns about the economy and illegal immigration, he is galvanized by a concern that was completely manufactured. stephanie: do you think that president biden is the legitimate president of the united states? richard: absolutely not. stephanie: he's a hard core trump supporter, and there are many of those in the grand canyon state. mr. trump: vote democrat. they don't know what the hell they're doing except when it comes to cheating on elections, they're very good at that. stephanie: in early october, the y t gop candidates whoa have loudly and loyally repeated his conspiratorial claims that the 2020 election was stolen. gubernatorial candidate kari lake chief among them. ms. lake: i got to tell you, i have some of these know nothing consultants who tell me, you know, you really need to back away from president trump right now, and i say to them, put down hunter's crack pipe right now. stephanie: lake is facing the current chief elections official

in arizona, katie hobbs, in the governor's race, making it a particularly stark choice for voters who care about election integrity. hobbs has refused to debate lake. ms. hobbs: she has made it her platform to dismantle our democracy and overturn the will of the voters for the former president that she's that she is more beholden to than the people of arizona. stephanie: in arizona's general elections, the line of scrimmage is always moving, and voters are known to switch teams. lisa hoberg is one of them. she's a lifelong republican who we met at a high school football game, where her son jacob was playing in the band. lisa: i really hope that people can come together and realize the gravity at hand. when we start questioning some of the main principles that our founders laid out and that have kind of taken us through the

tough times in the past when those are at risk, peaceful transfer of power, balance of power and things like that, that's fundamentally frightening. stephanie: back at her house she filled out her mail-in ballot, checking all democrats at the top for the first time. lisa: i am the same person and i have the same beliefs that now that i had five years ago, ten years ago. so i'm not going to say i'm not going to not be a republican because i'm not the one that's changed. it's the party around me that's changed. stephanie: it became apparent it had changed on january 6th, when trump supporters invaded the capitol in a riotous insurrectionhat the president she had just voted for did nothing to stop. as arizona votes, some of those same stop the steal defenders have shown up at ballot drop boxes. lisa: my mother is afraid to go drop her ballot off because she's seeing live coverage of very scary looking people outside of, you know, secure

ballot boxes. so i absolutely think that the rhetoric is very dangerous. very dangerous. stephanie: it was a heavy conversation for a friday night football game but as the band , played, and the team scored lisa hoberg snapped back into , mom mode. her worries about the future of arizona, and the country, at least temporarily, put on the sidelines. for the pbs newshour, i'm stephanie sy in phoenix. ♪ amna: political violence is on the rise. the january 6th committee continues its work, and americans are deeply divided on a host of issues. one key player in all of this, republican liz cheney of wyoming. she spoke with judy woodruff earlier today. judy: amna, i sat down with representative cheney here in cleveland, at an event sponsored

by the city club and the pbs station here, ideastream public media. i started with the brutal attack on speaker nancy pelosi's husband just the latest example , of political violence fueled by far right conspiracies. congresswoman, i want to begin with something that is sobering at this time, the attack just a few days ago on the husband of house speaker nancy pelosi. he is still in the hospital. you have been a target of threats, you have had to hire additional security. how did we get to this place? we know the number of threats on lawmakers has more than doubled since 2017. why? rep. cheney: first of all, i know all of our thoughts and prayers are with paul and speaker pelosi and their whole family. i want to say a word about speaker pelosi.

i did not really know her before i began work on the january 6 committee. not sure if i had ever spoken to her, actually. since i have and on the committee and i say this -- everyone knows she is liberal from san francisco and i am a conservative from wyoming and there are many issues, maybe most issues, on which we disagree. but i think she is a tremendous leader. i have watched her up close. she is a leader of historic consequence. she has put this committee together and demonstrated her commitment to the truth, and i think the demonization that goes on on both sides, certainly

republicans over the years have demonized speaker pelosi. democrats have demonized republicans, including my dad. it all has to stop. i think when you see what is happening in our country, when you watch the extent to which political violence, or violence has become part of political discourse, that is a road we cannot go down. the fact that paul pelosi was in icu, had been brutally attacked, had a skull fracture and numerous other injuries, that there were members of my party mocking him, that they were members of president trump's family mocking him, that is not

who we are in this country. that is disgraceful, and as americans, we have to reject it. the violence at the capitol on january 6 was a direct result of donald trump's claims that the 2020 election was stolen. he continues to make those claims to this day. others continue to make those claims to this day. it is entirely foreseeable those will lead to violence. as a nation, we all should be keeping the pelosi family in our prayers. we all should recognize we cannot go over an abyss, not able to have a common human decency to stand against that violence, to condemn the violence, to pray for mr. pelosi and his family, and reject those who are acting in a way that

frankly is inhumane. judy: the january 6 committee, which you spent a great deal of time working on as vice chair, you helped shape the direction of what the committee has done. how much more investigating is there to be done? rep. cheney: well, it is the largest terminal case in the nation's history, and of course the justice department is responsible for the criminal investigation. the committee itself has to conclude our work by the end of this year but we have far more to do. we know a lot. we have interviewed more than 1000 individuals, millions of pages of documents have been produced. it has been a very significant undertaking and we will produce a report before the end of the year. obviously we've had hearings that lay out what we know about what donald trump did, about his

intent, very clearly laid out with respect to each of the parts of his plan to overturn the election. but i think the work of the justice department will certainly go on. judy: the committee has subpoenaed former president trump. should the committee allow him to testify in person, live, if that is what he says he will do? rep. cheney: well, the committee is in discussions with president trump's attorneys. he has an obligation to comply. we treat this and take this very seriously. this is not a situation where the committee will put itself at the mercy of donald trump in terms of his efforts to create a circus. we haven't made determinations about the format itself, but it will be done under oath. it will be done potentially over multiple days. we have significantuestions

based on what we have developed. judy: do you think he will testify or not? rep. cheney: i think he has a legal obligation testify but that doesn't always carry weight with donald trump. judy: donald trump, the people that deny president biden one the election and the people defending what happened on january 6, what do they all mean for american democracy? rep. cheney: i differentiate between elected republicans and republican voters. i think there are millions of republican voters across the country who have been betrayed by donald trump. if you look at our elected officials, on the republican side, you certainly have some who believe the lies. i think that is a very small number. but you have a significant number who know the lies are not true but are accommodating them. that is really dangerous because

it leads to this question around the country of people saying if these really are lies, why aren't more republican saying so? why are people campaigning with some of the most dangerous election deniers? they are doing it for their own political purposes and that is a dangerous moment for the country. judy: dangerous for our democracy, yeah. you said in a television at that republican candidates for governor and secretary of state of arizona are a threat to democracy. and you made in the last few days, your first endorsement of a democrat, michigan congresswoman alyssa slotkin, you will campaign for her later today. this yea you received the john f. kennedy profile in courage award. president kennedy said sometimes party loyalty asks too much. rep. cheney: look, i think i

have been a republican ever since i first cast a vote, which was 1984. i don't think i've ever voted for a democrat, and certainly never campaigned for a democrat. but we are at a moment now where my party has really lost its way and lost its way into way that is dangerous. it is dangerous because we have become beholden to a man who was willing to stop the peaceful transfer of power. that has never happened in this nation before. my view is, if you really are a conservative, the most conservative of conservative principles is fidelity to the constitution. and if you are willing to overlook an attempt to overturn an election and stop the peaceful transfer of power, you are being unfaithful to the constitution. i think given the moment we are

in, we cannot give power to people who have told us they won't respect the outcome of elections. that is more important than any party belief, more important than any policy. we can have big debates about policy, but you cannot give somebody power if they told you it will only honor an election if they like the outcome, because that is how the republic unravels. judy: that endorsement, and you are campaigning for congresswoman slotkin today, we know there is a bitter contest for the senate. you served six years in congress with tim ryan, you often voted differently from him. the republican candidate, 80 vans, is a trump loyalist, he says the 2020 election was not free and fair. he said some of the generates a -- january 6 the insurrection us are political prisoners, and he

doesn't really happen -- care what happens to ukraine. all of that is very different from paul ryan -- excuse me, tim ryan's position. [laughter] rep. cheney: and all ryan's position. [applause] [laughter] judy: who would you choose in this race? rep. cheney: i would not vote for jd vance. judy: so if you were a buckeye voter, you would vote for tim ryan? rep. cheney: i would. judy: are there any other democrats you will endorse between now and next tuesday? [laughter] rep. cheney: possibly. i endorsed one just now. [applause] [laughter] judy: you have said republican house leader kevin mccarthy, he is willing to sacrifice everything for his own political gain, he has been unfaithful to the constitution.

you clearly would not be supporting him for speaker or leader if you were voting on that. who would be the right leader for republics in the house? rep. cney: you know, i hesitate to give any names because i don't think it would help them. [applause] kevin mccarthy -- he is very consistent. every time he's had to make a choice between what is right or his political future, he chooses his political future. the speaker of the house is second in line to the presidency. it is -- you know, we need somebody much better to be speaker of the house. judy: are you worried, in just a few words, that we will see a number of candidates next tuesday who don't concede? rep. cheney: yes i am, and i am worried we could see a number of candidates elected in really important positions, as

secretaries of state and governors, who could decide they won't certify results in 2024. i think that ought to drive people as you go vote. to think about that, to think about what does it mean? you can disagree with some of these policies, but when you give power to somebody who won't respect an election, you have to ask whether we will get future elections. judy: just a w more. liz cheney's future -- what does it look like? rep. cheney: i like to talk about myself and the third person always. [applause] -- [laughter] judy: what does your future look like and does it include a for president in 2024? rep. cheney: i don't know the answer to that yet, i haven't made the decision. i don't think that's the most important question. i think the most important question is whether or not as a nation we will do everything we

have to do to preserve the republic. and that is really what i am focused on. judy: if you did decide to run, would it be as a republican or independent? rep. cheney: i haven't made any decisions about whether i will run or not. [laughter] judy: but you are clearly giving it some thought. [laughter] [applause] finally, next tuesday, is it better for the country if republicans take control of the house? rep. cheney: um... when you look at the people who -- when you look at a number of the people who are in the republican conference today, people whose views were fr

inge two years ago but now have a tremendous power, i think the american people need to understand these are not serious people. people like paul gosar and marjorie taylor greene, who have appeared at white supremacist conferences and are clearly anti-semitic. those people will have tremendous power in a republican majority. you know, you are already seeing what that means in terms of kevin mccarthy being willing to placate them. and so i think people just need to understand what it will mean to have a republican majority in the house of representatives. the people who will be running the house of representatives in a republican majority will give authority and power to some of the most radical members of the conference and i don't think

that is good for the country. judy: you are saying it is better for the country if -- rep. cheney: i think i will leave it the way i said it. [laughter] judy: we heard you. [laughter] finally, if republicans do take control of the house, is that, among other things, a validation of donald trump? rep. cheney: look, as i said, this is number one, a fundamental fight for the soul of the country, not just the soul of the republican party. it is a fight we have to win because the stakes are so high. at the end of the day, i'm confident that donald trump and those who would thwart our democratic process will not prevail, and i will do every thing i can to make sure that is the case. judy: representative cheney also gave her critique of president biden's time in office. you can watch the entire event online at pbs.org/newshour and

on our youtube channel amna: as voters cast their ballots this month, gas prices are still very much on the minds of many americans. nationally, the average price is now down to $3.76 a gallon, but that's still higher than many drivers have gotten used to paying. at the same time, oil and gas companies are reporting record-breaking profits for the past quarter. william brangham takes a closer look. william: amna, those profits were in the tens of billions of dollars for just the last three months. for example -- exxon mobil pulled in nearly $20 billion in profit. chevron took in more than $11 billion. shell, $9.5 billion. bp, over $8 billion. today, the world's largest oil company, saudi aramco, reported making $42 billion this quarter. president biden again lashed out at the oil companies yesterday.

president biden: there profits are a windfall from the brutal conflict ravaging ukraine and hurting tens of millions of people around the globe. in a time of war, any company receiving windfall profits like this has a responsibility to act beyond their narrow self interest. william: the president again called for a new windfall tax on what he called those companies' excess profits if they don't use some of that money to lower energy costs for american consumers. for some perspective on all this, i'm joined by cliff krauss, energy correspondent for "the new york times." great to havyou back on the program. can you help us understand why profits are so high? gas prices declined over the summer but they went back up again. cliff: this is a commodity business. profits actually have been very skimpy over the last ten years as prices fluctuated and frequently collapsed the last

time in 2020. but this year, they're having record profits. just a couple of years ago, exxonmobil was taken out of the dow jones industrials. now they are reaching record highs and their stock prices high. this is because the oil and the natural gas prices have come up so far, partially because of the invasion of ukraine and sanctions on russia, a major producer and partially because , there's been a lack of investment in refineries and in production the last few years. william: the president and other critics of the industry they call this, in essence, war profiteering and that these companies are gouging american consumers. is that a fair accusation? cliff: certainly they're making a lot of money and there's a war going on. and so that's not a pretty picture. and you don't see oil company executives crowing about it.

the frustration on the part of the american administration is why aren't these companies producing more oil? the thinking being they're not producing more oil because they want to keep the prices high. if only they would produce more, which is what they did years ago. when prices went up, they would bring the price down. that is not what the investment community wants. the investment community wants exactly what the oil companies are doing and that is returning the cash to their shareholders in the form of dividends and stock buybacks. the oil executives say, look, if we produce more, we are going to bring the price down in a year or two. and the oil that we are going to, the oil and the gas that we're going to get out of the ground is going to be worth less. and we're paying more now to get it out of the ground. so we're going to lose money. and this is exactly what happened several times in the last few years. so the oil companies are saying

we are not going to make that mistake again. now, of course, the oil companies are thinking about their bottom line. the president is thinking about national security. how you square that circle is tough. william: and the president again also can't overlook the fact that the midterms are coming and the president's being beaten up about this. i mean, the president says he's going to then try to get this windfall tax through. it sounds like that's not going to go anywhere on capitol hill because of republican opposition. is there anything then that the president can tangibly do to try to lower prices more? cliff: so the president for several months now has been releasing oil from the strategic petroleum reserve. up to a million barrels a day. it's been effective in bringing down gasoline prices by the accounts of some experts, as much as $0.40 a gallon for regular on average across the country. willie continue to do that?

-- will he continue to do that? he might. he might have to because of the strengthening sanctions from europe, particularly on the russians, who produce one out of every ten barrels of oil consumed in the world. on the other hand, oil prices may come down if we are heading into a recession. there are economists who say that oil could go down to the seventies or $60 a barrel and then oil prices, gasoline prices, even natural gas prices are going to come down to earth. william: help me understand something here. the president is both pressuring the companies to produce more oil and gas while simultaneously arguing that we as a nation need to wean ourselves off of fossil fuels because of climate change. there seems to be a tangle of contradictions there. cliff: absolutely. the president campaigned during the campaign against fossil fuels, saying that we have to quicken the transition.

and in fact, much of his agenda, on the hill, has been to do exactly that. and so investors are saying and oil companies are saying, wait a minute, you want us to invest more now and we're going to have stranded assets, lng export terminals, oil fields that in a few years are going be out of date because of the stimulation for electrification of the transportation system. and so there are a lot of contradictions there. the main theme that we are facing now, or the dilemma we are facing now is how do we do two things at one time? secure our nation and the world's energy, which we must do, particularly in a time of war, but at the same time combat climate change. and that is a tough thing to do, especially when it comes to private corporations that are looking at their bottom line.

willm: all right. clifford krauss of the new york times, thank you so much for being here. cliff: great to be with you. ♪ amna: 14 studio albums, 170 million records sold, 22 grammys -- more than any other band -- and legendary live shows and global tours. the only band in history with number one albums on the billboard 200 in four consecutive decades, starting in the 1980's. by any measure, u2 is one of the world's biggest bands, and their lead singer is one of music's biggest stars. he's telling his own story in a new memoir, and recently sat down with jeffrey brown to talk about it, part of our arts and culture series, "canvas." >> ♪ i have climbed highest mountains ♪

jeffrey: u2, one of the greatest and most enduring rock bands. bono looking back at what made it work. bono: u2, we knew we had sothing. it just wasn't very musical. my friend used to say about bands, they have everything but it. but it. they look good, they have everything but it. u2 only had it. jeffrey: whatever it is, u2 has had it for more than 40 years. bono has not only been the front man, but long ago developed a different kind of voice, as a lobbyist to world leaders trying to advance world health and development. bono: people have come to help

us from all over. jeffrey: we met recently in new york at his organization read, which focuses on fighting aids in sub-saharan africa. in his memoir, he writes about at all, a young boy born in dublin who didn't get much encouragement to think big. bono: i was growing up in the 1970's and my father, his view on life was don't dream. jeffrey: don't dream. bono: two dream is to be disappointed. because he was really capable and talented and he was like, get through, get a job -- he worked at the post office. it is funny the things that are locked inside people. my whole life has been really trying to unlike potential. the squandering of human potential is a thing i grew up

fighting against. one of the things i group fighting against. jeffrey: perhaps the most personal and painful part of the book, the sudden death of his mother from a brain aneurysm a win bono was 14. he describes himself, older brother and fathers three lost souls pretending thecould move on. in our house when she died, he writes, she was never spoken of again. we never thought about her again. that is a painful last line. bono: yeah, some of it was hard to write. but the book was partly about finding those memories. the emptiness, you know? it is there to be filled, isn't it, it is a void. my own family, my father and my brother norman, we are irish males screaming at each other and television sets and kind of facing often squaring off at

each other. the home just became a house and my whole life would be merely the pursuit of home and the alternate families. jeffrey: a lucky man, he found those families in one place, his school. he met his wife of 40 years when he was 13. the members of u2 were classmates that got together as high schoolers. bono: rock 'n' roll high school by the ramon's. jeffrey: in his book, he cites bands like the ramones. as well as legendary singer, performer and actor david bowie as leading influences. >> ♪ i was on the inside ♪ jeffrey: and he describes the work that went into finding his

own voice and style. bono: i wasn't a great rock 'n' roll singer and i'm still not really. i can sing, ck 'n' roll is kind of -- the great singers like mick jagger. jeffrey: what are you? bono: it is a feminine sound in a way, it is not macho. ♪ jeffrey: the band's first album in 1980 was a critical success and they were well on their way. but there was always another thread to the u2 story. three of the members, bono:, the edge and larry mullen are and were deeply spiritual. you can hear it everywhere in the songs, which in some cases bono refers to as akin to biblical songs. >> ♪ one life but we are not the same

we got to carry each other ♪ bono: my life is very influenced by judeo-christian and this idea that if there is a force of love and life behind the universe, and i believe there is, it is absurd that this force is interested in the detail of our lives, but i choose to believe that. and i cannot live up to it, unfortunately. but i meet it in so many places. i meet it in music, painting -- it takes me to that. i suppose the word is awe. awesome! no. [laughter] actually i love the word awesome. jeffrey: bono describes one moment where the need for higher

purpose almost railed the band until their manager -- almost derailed the band until their manager brought them back together. bono: we said we want to cancel the next tour and next album, and he is the winston churchill of rock. he said let me get this right, you have been talking to god, have you? i am like, three of us are like -- sort of, yeah. and he wants you to be, to not do this tour and that kind of thing? yeah. so how is god with legal contracts? [laughter] because i have signed on ur behalf. we were like, yeah, we don't want to break a legal contract. jeffrey: no contracts were broken. the band found a way forward and bono found a way to mix the

music with a high-profile, high-stakes social activism that brought him to different kinds of world stages. we will explore that in part 2 of our talk with bono. for the pbs newshour, i am jeffrey brown in new york. amna: you can tune in tomorrow for part two. right now, you can hear bono read an excerpt from his memoir on our instagram account good tri-state and is the founder of a network -- account. troy stayton in baltimore now shares his brief but spectacular take on how transforming trauma into activism can help heal. troy: the barbershop and the beauty salon is the ly place that you can come in and you can leave your title for whom you supposed to be for whom others expect you to be.

and you can solely be yourself. how you really feeling? ♪ i started cutting hair as a teenager on my mother's porch in southwest baltimore. i began to cut my brother hair and childhood friends's hair and barbering just came naturally to me. later on i met this great mentor, mr. lenny clay from the house of naturals, legendary barber. you know, he cut people like oprah winfrey hair. his barbershop was not just a barbershop. he showed me being a barber was more than just cutting hair. one of my first collaborations was i turned the barbershop into an alternative art space for african american artists, because i understood that art had been taken out of public school. then we collaborated with all the major art institutions in the city of baltimore. i understood that the work that i was doing in one shop needed to be replicated.

i gathered some friends that was barbers and beauticians and nail techs. and we created more than a shop, more than a shop is a network of barbershops and beauty salons. they are bringing resources directly to the community. we understand that miss shirley is raising her fourth generation of great grandchildren. she's on a limited budget. so let's send some of this food down to ms. shirley. the house over here, they have problem with substance abuse. so we address that by sending no narcan to them. people don't really necessarily trust a lot of hospitals, but if you keep coming to the barber shop and i understand this, i say melissa, when was the last time you had your blood pressure checked? we had did over 5,000 healthcare scenings. we did vaccinations for covid because what i understood then every community and every way there wasn't a walgreens, but there's a barbershop. we understand what's taking place in our communities.

barbers had always been the quintessential pern who came through from one plantation to another plantation who carried the word, the message. they knew what was going on. the civil rights movement started within a barber shop before they went to the church. community members trust us. why? because we are part of your family. we give people from their first haircut to the last hairt. from times of grief to celebrations. i'm troy staton. and this is my "brief but spectacular" take on being more than a shop. amna: such a great story. tonight, tune in to our student reporting labs' election special. you'll hear about the issues motivating first-time voters, and learn how to combat misinformation ahead of election day. "we the young people: moments of truth" premieres tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on our youtube channel. and that's "the newshour" for tonight. i'm amna nawaz. join us online and again here tomorrow evening.

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