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>> good evening. i'm judy woodruff. on the newshour. set free. brittney griner released from detention in russia. in exchange for an arms dealer held in the united states. voting on equality. congress gives final passage to legislation that protects same-sex and interracial marriage. fighting blackouts. ukraine's electrical workers risk their lives to restore power as russia targets the country 's energy grid. >> to have a complete destruction of substations, equipment, i've never seen anything like this before. >> all tha and more on tonight's pbs newshour.
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this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station for viewers like you. thank you. >> brittney griner is finally free tonight after a dramatic prisoner swap. the women's professional basketball star had been held by russia for most of this year on a minor drug offense and was starting to serve a sentence of nine years in prison camp. she was exchanged for a notorious russian arms dealer doing 25 years in a u.s. prison. nick schifrin begins our coverage. >> in a penal connelly 6000 miles from her home, brittney griner walked to freedom. >> what is your mood? >> happy. >> are you ready for the flight? >> yes.
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>> on a tarmac in the uae, the wrongfully detained basketball star was traded for a notorious criminal greeted by a russian official with a hug. the deal done, president biden spoke to her in the oval office and embraced her wife after the 294 days in detention. >> held under intolerable circumstances, she will soon be back in the arms of her loved ones. she should have been all along. >> over the last nine months, you have been so privy to one of the darkest moments of my life. i'm standing here overwhelmed with emotions. the most important is sincere gratitude. >> i never meant to break any laws. >> she's been immersing custody since february, pled guilty, and was convicted of drug smuggling and possession after russian authorities said she landed in moscow with two vape cartridges full of cannabis oil.
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>> people with more severe crimes have gotten less than what i was given. >> she was sentenced to nine years in prison and transferred to a female penal colony. they have a 99% conviction rate. throughout, the u.s. called her trial a carriage of miss justice. she was treated for tharms dealer. when he was arrested, one of the most wanted men. he was extradited to the u.s. and found guilty by a u.s. court of conspiracy to kill americans and providing aid to terrorist organizations. he was so notorious, he inspired the 2005 him "lord of war." >> your stocks are dangerously depleted. >> officials originally proposed freeing two wrongfully detained americans, paul whelan, who was
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convicted on espionage charges that the u.s. called a sham. >> on a spy mission. in reality, they objected him on holiday. >> antony blinken said the only option was granted. >> it was not a choice of which american to bring home, the choice was one or none. >> david whelen is paul's brother. >> what is your response to brittney griner's release? >> great news, any time an american comes home from wrongful detention is good. >> i imagine it is difficult to see her released and paul not released. >> it is. we are grateful to the white house for the trust they showed us yesterday, they let us know it was coming so that my sister, brother, and our parents could process this in private and come to terms with the bitter side of the bitter it. >> some republicans criticized the swap.
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james risch said paul whelan should have been part of the deal. an expected next house -- said trading victor boot will embolden vladimir to continue his practice of taking innocent americans hostage. david whelen says the biden administration made the same call. >> it seems they had come to an impasse, and they were not going to make a good-faith deal that would include paul. if the biden administration coinued to wait, they would prolong brittney griner's detention for no good reason. it is not great for paul and what our family would have chosen, but the right thing for the american president to do for the american citizen. if it means exchanging a 50-year-old arms dealer who has been in u.s. custody for more than a decade, i think the harm is not as substantial as people worry. >> do you fear the price the
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administration paid raises the price for what they would have to do to release your brother? >> no. eachf of theseor, iran, they have their own requirements. i don't thing the russian government would expect more. they he certain things they are hoping to get as a concession from the u.s. government. vows to bring whelenit yet. home. >> for totally illegitimate reasons, russia is treating his case differently. while we have not yet succeeded in securing paul, we are not giving up. we will never give up. >> the russians were asking for a spy in u.s. custody to ade for paul whelan, who is convicted of espionage. for more on the man traded for brittney griner, turning to our correspondent, the lead agent in the drug enforcement agency who initiated the investigation and saw it through to his
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conviction. do you think trading victor boot for ittney griner was in the interest of the u.s.? >> i don't think it is in the interest of the u.s., but i will start by saying what i have said, i have nothing but well wishes for the family. i am happy they are reunited with their loved one. i think there is very negative national security ilications from such an ill-fated trade. the first of those implications is american citizens through the world just got made a commodity. i believe we just senthe message it is good business to have an american citizen in your pocket through false detention or kidnapping. they may be needed for a trade. the second reason is i think it greatly turn dishes our rule of
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law, one of our strongest assets worldwide. by engaging in this type of negotiation, we reduce a judicial jury verdict into a political stunt, similar to how moscow treated ms. griner. >> on the first point you made, it incases the chance of hostage diplomacy, the administration said it took steps to deter other governments from taking americans wrongfully, including new authorities, possibilities of sanctions, and calling out other governments from taking americans hostage. is it enough? >> i don't. i think those are all nice points to make. three years of sanctions in venezuela and russia through the ukrainian conflict, we can see the effects sanctions have and
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how they can be controverted and outlived. it defies all common sense and logic. it is right out of the playbook of organizations like hezbollah and others that this is good business. >> on the pnt you made about degrading the rule of law, senior officials said we try to form alternatives. we try to pay as little price as possible. we think there is a moral obligation to bring detained americans home. >> there is a mal obligation to do everything in our power to continue to support those americans and make every attempt to get them home. it doesn't mean i don't think it has limits. we have to take into account the other american citizens whose lives might be imperiled by taking such actions. i think we have to find ways to start discouraging american citizens from placing themselves
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unnecessarily in harm's way. whether it is trying to spread god's word, an adventure taker who wants to see ruins, or a person traveling to an enemy of the state for personal gain. >> we heard president biden urged americans to take into account travel guidance by the state department. how do you think the trade will impact the u.s. working with governments overseas to pursue criminals? >> it really hurt our stats in the world. it will be hard to take the u.s. at face value moving forward after the trades. we make incredible partnerships with law enforcement through the world. cases and investigations -- incredibly delicate. they take a tremendous amount of resources. not only in physical resources, but relationships, trust, some
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of these relationships take years to build. we make great promises to the foreign counterparts. >> tell us more about victor boot, the largest arms transporter in the world. >> what made victor unique is he had a private fleet of retired soviet military aircraft. he reached, none other than i have seen, was able to utilize to place the deadly cargo in conflict zones through the world where others could not deliver. it made him unique, and made him even more of a threat. not only to the u.s. national security, but global stability. >> a long career in law enforcement, you stay in touch with colleagues working in the department of justice and other federal law enforcement agencies. what are they telling you, those colleagues in government? >> president biden has lost the
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department of justice. i have spoken to multiple levels , every level of law enforcement, to include the prosecutorial side, investigation side. it universally seems to be disenfranchised. quite frankly, the department of justice has been lost. >> with all due respect, the attorney general, publicly, works closely with the president. what evidence do you have the president has "lost the department of justice"? >> i think i have an idea of where most folks felt and certainly it would seem the state department won this round. >> the state department believed in the trade and the department of justice did not? >> that is my impression. >> we will have to leave it
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there. thank you very much. >> to look more closely at the biden item this ration's efforts to secure britney greatness release, -- brittney griner's release, we are joined by john kirby, the strategic communications coordinator for the white house national security council. welcome back to the newshour. how is it -- the question many have on their minds right now, the russians had so much leverage over the u.s. that they were able to give us back a professional basketball player who had been found guilty of a very minor charge in exchange for winning the release of a notorious arms dealer, one of the most wanted men in the world. then he was convicted of conspiracy to kill america. >> thanks judy.
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nobody wanted to see mr. boot be a free man six years before his sentence was due to be complete. we were acting in good faith over many months to try and secure not just brittney griner, but paul whelan. that said, through all of those weeks and months, it was clear to things. they were treating him separately, because of the sham espionage charges against him. and there would not be away to get them together. number two, the only way they were going to accept brittney griner's release was by mr. boot. the social the moment we could get it. it was either get one american home or none. we felt we had a moral obligation to do what we could to get brittney griner back home to her family and teammates or she belongs. we will continue that work to
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get him home. >> americans are celebrating brittney griner's release. another part of the question, we heard paul whelan's brother tell nick schifrin the russians were asking for another prisoner convicted of espionage in the united states, that there could have been a deal. why dn't that happen. >> i'm going to be very clear, we are still actively trying to get paul home. i would rather or not get into any kinds of details on the options and what it might be. we are actively working on this. we will stay at that task. you can understand why we would not getting -- get into speculative discussion on wood still don't have paul. weon't have an agreement to get him released. >> you say working on it, are the negotiations underwaright now? >> we have not stopped trying to
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negotiate for mr. wheeling's release. that continues today, it will continue tomorrow and e next day. we are at active discussions with the russians. even as we concluded brittney griner's case to continue to work on paul's. >> let me ask about the comments from the forr dea agent. he said in his view, the trade -- what happens send a message to the world that detention and kidnapping of american citizens is a good business. >> a couple of things. we have taken a lot of actions to try and discourage exactly that, hostagetaking, by instituting new sanctions, visa ban requirements, and incorporated guidance to americans traveling overseas about the detention risk. every country including russia.
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i think any nation that would come away from this trade thinking there is a license, i can do this, would be making a dangerous presumption. we will hold people accountable. at the same time, if you do everything right, and if you still get wrongfully detained, your government will not forget you. we may have to make some difficult decisions. decisions we did not take lightly. if we have to do that, if that is the only rourse, you did not know how your president is going to stand behind you and do what you can to bring you home >> what is it like to stop the russians from grabbing another american? >> mr. putin has done this before. it is not a new tactic for him. americans traveling to russia or want to travel to russia should think about the fact he has done this before.
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it could hpen again. that is why we've got the designation on russia and other countries as a detention risk. we want them to go overseas for pleasure or for work, but fully informed. we don't want to see another american wrongfully detained in russia or anywhere else. unfortunately, it is a tactic he has used in the past. >> want to quote what the former dea agent said. not only that it greatly tarnishes the rule of law in this country, but he went on to say it reduces a judicial verdict today political stunt. is that what this was? >> a political stunt. my goodness. i will refrain a little bit. there was no politics, this was not a stunt. this was about getting an american citizen back home to her family and teammates.
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she should not have been detained f one hour, let alone the 10 months she was in intolerable conditions. same for mr. whelan, who has suffered for years of wrongful detention. it is not about a political stunt or advocating rule of law, it is standing up for the rights of american citizens by pulling around the world and doing so unapologetically. we are not celebrating the fact mr. booth is walking free, but we will stay close, we will be vigilant on our national security, we made an announcement before we agreed to release him. he was not serving a life sentence, he would be out in 2029. eventually he would be a free man. it is six years earlr. we will watch what he does. if he or anybody else in russia continues to threaten american national security, we have the tools in place, the will in place to hold them accountable. >> one other comment, president
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biden has lost the department of justice. in the view of the people he talks to, this was a win for the state department, they thought it was wrong. is that going on internally? >> the entire national security team worked very hard over many months to arrange to get brittney griner home. at the same time, they were working to get paul whelan home. they will stay at that task. the entire interagency team. including people from the justice department. i can say at large across the national security team supporting president biden, this was extraordinary long, dedicated effort by a national security officiaacross administration to -- >> mark vogel, still being held in russia. any word on his fate?
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>> i the administrations working to get his release? >> we are working to better understand his situation. there's a limit to what i could say in this particular case for a variety of reasons. i will have to be guarded and careful. we are mindful of the situation and we are doing the best we can to get as much information and context as we can about that individual. >> john kirby joining us from the white house. now, we hear from a vocal advocate for brittney griner. dawn staley is the head coach of the south carolina game cocks and a hall of fame player. she coached brittney griner and her teammate when she won gold at the tokyo olympics.
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she tweeted in support of greiner through captivity. we ask your reaction to the news of the release. >> i cried tears of joy. i got a dog that sleeps in the bed with me, he was looking at me like what is wrong? i just told him, britney is coming home. >> why do you think you cried? >> for nine months, 293 days, i thought about brittany every single day. i did not get emotional, i did not worry. i just prayed and forced myself to be strong for her, because i know doing those nine months, she had to have weak moments. i wanted to be her strength. to uphold somebody up for nine months to now know she's coming home is a weight that is lifted
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that only people in this journey could feel. there is no more room tol, f eehad, it is more of thankfulne. thanking god he allowed this to happen and her family. >> you wore a pain every day. you posted about it every day, talked about her and make sure people did not forget her name. you are part of a larger network. the wnba has a strong history of advocacy and speaking out. tell me about that mission. >> here's what i have known, eigen identify what strong women look like. i grew up in a household with a mother who was incredibly strong. i always equated my mother's strength to having the strength of 10 men. and when us women, us strong women, when we forge and link up
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for something we believe in, we know that wholeheartedly it is going to happen. a lot of women of the wnba, the women in the white house, and all of these organizations for the people that were detained in a foreign country. and we can't do it alone. esident biden, he wanted this to take place. secretary antony blinken. all of those people weeally lifted up in prayer to make sure they had the knowledge and the fight and the strength to do the right thing. that is to bring brittney griner home. there is another party involved in bringing brittany home. the russian government decided only brittany is on the table.
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it leaves paul whelan and his family in position of we were all in nine months ago. with belief and hope and prayer, the same god that brought britney home, we hope will bring all of them later. >> brittney griner is a superstar, seven-time wnba all-star, olympic gold medalist. there are those who said if this was lebron, he would be home by now? >> i really don't care -- i never commented on it, because all of my strength and all of my desires to bring brittany home were for brittany. i don't want to compare, there are a lot of places in which things are not equitable here in the states, with men, women, whatever. that argument is for another time.
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we wanted to put all of our energy into bringing brittany home. now that she's home, let's have it all. do i think if it was lebron, tom brady, someone else -- i think we would probably be moving a little quicker. that is not on our doing. i think it is all predicated on russia and their unpredictability and how they operate. i ink brittany coming home and them relinquishing brittany has to do with her actually playing in the country and showing her a little bit more grace than some other prisoners. so you have to think about that,
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as well. american citizens detained in another country. if we can get them home, i pray they get home to their loved ones. >> you worked with brittany, you coached her for years on the olympic team, you know her fortitude and her heart. how do you think she got through those unimaginable months? >> britney is a black woman, and she is an outwardly gay woman. when you have to endure those two things in our country, it prepares you to be able to handle the ordeal she went through. the mental fortitude she needed to get through. and the people, her supporters, people on the ground advocating for her. lifting her up. with all of that, allowing brittany to make it through 293
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days. i'm happy she does not have to endure that. but we know there is a lot of decompressing and a lot of therapy she has to go through to get back to equal footing. i d't know if she will ever get back to that. i think her heart's desire will be pushed towards helping people in that situation. abroad and here in our country. >> coach dawn staley, thank you for joining us. >> a lot of gratitude. watch more online at pbs.org/newshour. ♪ >> congress gave final approval
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to require all states to recognize same-sex and interracial marriages. it passed the house of representatives with nearly 40 republicans joining democrats in support. on the floor, argument focused on protecting marriage rights against a conservative supreme court versus protecting religious freedoms. >> the bill betrays our country's commitment to the fundamental right of religious liberty by depriving religious and faith-based organizations of their tax exempt status and depriving individual people of faith of being able to carry out fully their faith without repercussions. >> it is hard to believe today in 2022, we are still fighting to protect the right for all americans to marry the person they love. the supreme court's actions have shown us we cannot take their actions for granted. no one should live in fear a
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supreme court decision can invalidate their marriage in the blink of an eye. >> it goeso president biden for his signature. the house of representatives also passe a huge defense authorization bill totaling a record $858 billion. it won a sweeping bipartisan vote and goes to the senate. it makes changes in the handling of sexual misconduct cases in the military and drops the covid vaccine mandate for troops. the u.s. fda authorized covid oster shots for children as young as six-month-old. the pfizer and moderna boosters target the original and omicron sub variant. shots will be available once the cdc gives its approval. iran has announced its first execution of a protester arrested in ongoing unrest. he was convicted of attacking a security guard with a machete. protests broke out in
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mid-september after a young kurdish woman died in police custody. they have continued to spite the government crackdown. >> china's, xi jinping, held profound meetings with saudi arabia's rulers in a visit being watched in washington. xi was taken through the royal palace by the crown prince. they signed technology and other agreements and rejected criticism of their human rights records. peru ousted president pedro castillo has appeared in court to face a rebellion and conspiracy charges. he was arrested after trying to dissolve congress and lawmakers voted him out of office. he listened to the court proceedings. prosecutors rned against releasing him pending trial. >> it should be noted if freed, he could communicate with government officials to hide or destroy elements of conviction
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to prevent the investigation of the truth. >>'s defense attorneys argue his arrest was arbitrary. in germany, police are planning further arrests linked to an alleged far right coupe plot, 25 suspects and weapons seized at some 50 locations. the group wanted to install a self-styled print as a new national mere. in this country, a congressional report that the waington commanders football team and owner dan snyder created a toxic work culture with rampant sexual misconduct. the house oversight committee said snyder permitted and participated in this conduct. they called the findings one-sided. hundreds of new york times journalists and other staffers staged a one-day walkout over pay and benefit. strikers rallied outside the times offices in their biggest job action in more than four decades.
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they gave out handbills, pressing for a contract to replace one that expired in march of last year. on wall street, stocks finally rallied after five losing sessions in a row. the dow jones industrial gained 183 points to close at 33,781. the nasdaq rose 123 points. the s&p 500 added 29. ukrainians brace for a brutal winter amid russian attacks on the energy grid. how suburban zoning rules are causing rents to spike. plus much more. this is the pbs newshour, from w eta studios in washington, and in the westrom the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> congress passed landmark legislation aimed at protecting same-sex and interracial marriages. lisa desjardins has more.
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>> lawmakers from both chambers came together to cheer final passage of the bill, the respect for marriage act. it comes after a supreme court justice expressed interest in reconsidering the supreme court decision that protects marriage equality following the high court's decision to overturn roe v. wade in june. looking at it closely is kate sauce and, who reports on issues for the 19th news. how significant is the bill? a lot of people are reporting that this protects marriage equality and in some ways, it does. but it does not caught up -- codify marriage equality. it would make marriages transportable from state to state for states that do have pro-marriage laws on the books. with bands, you can still not get married. christ that is if the supreme court takes the step of overturning it.
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it would really make it a state by state situation. republicans were key in passing the law. most of them voted no. many same because they were worried about religious liberties. what are their arguments? what does the bill say about that? >> the republican talking points about religious liberty are -- tend to be that there is a worry that churches will be forced to perform same-sex unions there are religious freedom protections in the bill. they mirror the projections we have increased. a trump for a nonprofit will not have to perform those unions. however, if you have a nonprofit or a business, and wants to do business or is accepting government funds, a charity, and
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is doing adoption services, it probably would still be subject to state laws. there is no new in terms of nondiscrimination law. >> but some of the nonprofits may have to recognize an out-of-state same-sex unions if they want state funds. >> that is correct, but still not different from the law that we are living under right now. we have >> equality nationwide. i want to check about the midterm election. this is a very high-stakes election. what is your reporting about what it showed on lgbtq issues and politics surrounding them right now? >> i think what we found was even though anti-lgbtq plus rhetoric has gotten louder and louder, what our reporting bore out was lgbtq+ canada wanted the
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higher numbers we had ever seen before. in 2018, we saw 400 lgbtq plus candidates run. this year, there were 1665. quality voters can -- so there growing number of the electorate. aend -continue to shrink. when we talk about the anti-lgbtq+ legislation, we are seeing this as a backlash to the greater political power. we often miss that part of the message because it is not that loud. >> thinking about those debates, sometimes we have ugly rhetoric, more threats of violence. where do you think the queer
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movement is right now? what is this moment? >> when i talk to advocates and experts, what everyone tells me is this is how social movements go. civil rights movements are often on this trajectory of any time that there is movement forward, advancement forward, we are in one of those points. so because of especially transgender people a moment of increased visibility, rights, and acceptance. there is a backlash. it is a moment of incredible acceptance. and visibility. with that, will come this really painful experience. it is hard to see the moment of visibility sometimes.
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>> you can read that report at the 19th news. thank you for joining us. ♪ ♪ > for almost two months, russia has targeted ukraine's energy grid to free the country's morale. more than 10 million ukrainians had no electricity at one point. our special correspondent and videographer report from kyiv on the cat and mouse game from russia and the ukrainian workers risking their lives to keep the country running. >> they call them the new heroes. ukrainian electrical workers doing the impossible, keeping the lights on despite relentless russian attacks on critical infrastructure. he's the repair team leader. he says for weeks, his unit has been working nonstop.
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>> we have been fixing the equipment destroyed as the result of the blackouts and the power spikes. as t results of the fighting that was happening around kyiv. >> they face a constant threat. russia launched hundreds of strikes with iranian drones and russian missiles. and they are in the crossfire. russian attacks have killed at least four workers of this energy company alone. > it is difficult, staff is scared. when a rocket flies over or a rocket explodes nearby, people refused to work. not because they don't want to, but because their mental health is suffering. >> ukraine officials say more than 500 cities, towns, and villages face problems. russia struck nearly every major substation that riley's power between regions. now they are running out of parts. urged allies to send spare parts
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quickly. and we need transformers. when we have transformers and generators, we can restore our energy grid. provide people with decent living conditions, which he is trying to deprive them of. >> they delivered tens of millions of dollars worth of emergency generators. late last month, the u.s. pledged an additional $53 million for the acquisition likely transformers, high dyna power. the u.s. even purchased body armor for utility workers. this assault on the edifice structure, is not normal. it cannot be normalized. there needs to be an understanding. the brutalization of the country that is quite simply barbaric. >> the workers repair, and the
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russian military destroys the infrastructure again in a 24 year career, medina has never faced such challenges. [indiscernible] -- >> to have a complete destruction of substations, i've never seen anything like this before. >> according to the most recent estimates, almost 50% of countries energy infrastructure has been destroyed by russian targeted attacks. millions of people all across the country are experiencing daily blackouts. they are two kids. she showed us how they survived blackouts, some of which have lasted days. >> we have candles, power banks for our phones. while we have natural gas, we are lucky, we can boil water, pick food for our kids, make tea. >> the real challenge is david's inhaler. she needs it for his heart condition.
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it needs electricity. she tries to have him use it between blackouts. they brace for winter with the help -- a present from her mother-in-law. >> the challenge is the school. right now it is online. when there is a blacker, there is no interneand it is a problem for kids and teachers. classes are often canceled. >> the blackouts are designed to zap the countries more out, and the challenge, especially because her husband works from home. but they are not planning to leave. she switched to english. >> it is important to stay here. our family together in kyiv. really with my sister here. to say home and help our country. >> even despite the difficulties and all of the hardships this winter is promising.
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>> i think the winter will be the hardest winter of our lives. >> recently had to save a child's life using headlamps. ukrainian resilience is on display at the kyiv heating points. th call them invincibility centers. they are equipped with generators, heating equipment, and some have satellite internet. people come charge phones, stay warm, or even keep up schoolwork. >> we come here because when there's no electricity, we can't do our homework, so we need internet and power. >> this is a savior for these freshman students, who will keep coming here for as long as they are open. the mayor makes sure these are not enough, in terms of long-term blackouts for a city of 3 million facing a dart cold winter.
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♪ ♪ >> the cost of housing has risen dramatically over the past few years. helping drive levels of inflation not seen in decades. one key factor is in many places they have not kept up with demand. long island east of new york city, flagged behind the nation, they have built less housing over the past decade than almost any comparable area in the country. after decades of a fight, there are over affordable housing, he reports on efforts to push for more development. >> a 14 acre eyesore in huntington, long island. >> 146 units of afrdable housing. >> right now it looks like scrubland. >> right now that is what it is.
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if you like this for 43 years. >> 43 years. she runs housing help, the nonprofit setting out to build here when jimmy carter was president. legal opposition and approval delays have blocked it through reagan, bush, clinton, bush, obama, trump, and biden. >> the cost of housing in long island has significantly increased year after year. even for a young professional. because there's hardly any housing. you can see the sign that bus drivers are needed. this is all throughout long island. pl the battles over affordableho the police is making up long island is a high percentage of detached homes and a large county in the country. i lived on the second floor. > how much did it cost? >> $3000 a month.
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one bedroom apartment. >> for the young folks who grew up here and wanted to say, buying was a pipe dream, renting a nightmare. you cannot afford it? >> unfortunately, i could not. a good public high school, university, a good paying job, yet the market rate apartments in huntington are pricing out young professional making upwards of $100,000. >> where has the opposition come from? >> a large part are the newbies in the town of huntington and long island. people who don't want affordable housing in their backyard. determined to preserve the quiet suburban they moved to, and make the resistance heard. >> is not just an issue, it is exclusive housing, density, traffic, schools. >> we have to talk about making it affordable for everybody.
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when this gets built, that is great for the 146 people who will live there. what about everybody? >> hector. >> developers like to build. if they can put more people in the same space, they will want to do at. that creates more high-density, more people, and more congestion and traffic. >> but mainly insists it is government subsidies to develop for lower inco residents xpayers will ultimately pay for. to drive his opposition to projects. >> we don't have an affordability problem, we have a tax problem. one of the highest property taxes, he's contributing to that. i'm ok with building any billing as long as it doesn't cause tax meters you always have a
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surprise into having to subsidize. like continuing to pay all the taxes. she thinks -- long had a problem that precedes. >> tell it for what it is. we are the is -- history. there was a lot of fear. >> it is fear with a history. in the 1940's, farms were being turned into neighborhoods. the iconic community was the model. single-family homes built as a community. they returned from world war ii and could afford them. people of color explicitly kept out. more recently, after a newsday hidden camera investigation, new york state cited three real estate brokerages for discriminating against homebuyers of color. no surprise to appeal her, who immigrated from peru and
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eventually settled on long island in 1986. >> within days that i moved into my house, i got a message from my door saying i don't belong here, that i need to move out. >> i refused to move out, they sent a second note saying they will burn down my house. i got a third note they were going to kill me. when i recved the third note, i was so pregnant, i said i'm not going to put the life of my baby at risk. so i told my neighbors i'm moving out. >> enough convinced her totay, keeping an eye on her house, and she became unaffordable housing activist who finally sees more long island neighborhoods ce around now that they are aging as she is. >> i don't have to go from being a helicopter mom to being an airplane grandmother. there is a place for my grandchildren. for my adult children to move in. a place for me to live when i am >> >> a senior citizen.
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just as important, the cost of long island's economy. 80 two people making parts of the military on long island saying she could hire 10 more as his lord employees from other states. >> paid their rent for a year, it was on them to find their own place. >> year year on you, you are paying the rt. >> it was sticker shock to the cost of living. renting a place here is upwards of $3500 a month. >> the ceoasessa f neighbors. >> you taxpayers are benefiting from my employees working hard. the number of employees i hire, the number of employees getting paychecks, buying food, i'm your economic impact making this region successful. i'm telling you as a business owner my people can't afford to buy a house. they are going to leave.
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it is hard enough to compete for talent. now i have to find someone talented and able to afford housing. >> she's so desperate, she is looking for help from above. >> i'm looking at my roof, 50,000 square-foot building, wondering there is structural engineering issues, but i'm thinking the footprint of the building, how many apartments i can put up there. >> apartments right up there. >> can i put a second floor? 20 of my employees right on top? we've got to do something. >> i asked the gas station owner across the street about the opposition. >> used to be a lot, i don't see many people anymore. >> because they need the worker? >> yes, and understand how expensive it is living in long island. >> for the moment, the weeds
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