judy: good evening. i'm judy woodruff. judy: on the "newshour" tonight. fighting inflation -- the federal reserve raises interest rates yet again in an effort to combat rising prices. then. high stakes -- congressional leaders hope to avoid a looming government shutdown with a newly unveiled budget deal. and ten years later -- newtown, connecticut, reflects on the mass shooting that killed dozens at an elementary school a decade ago. >> time is pretty warped really. i can't really reconcile the fact that it's been ten years since i held dylan, since i heard him laugh, since i took him to school. judy: all that and more on tonight's "pbs newshour."

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today's hike came amid signs that inflation may be easing, but the fed also critics more rate increases in 2023. a violent winter storm has now reached into the upper midwest and into the upper midwest and the deep south. this evening, a tornado was spotted in east new orleans. hours earlier, tornadoesilled a woman and her 8-year-old son and injured about 20 other people elsewhere in louisiana. to the north, blizzard-like conditions closed highways across parts of the plains states and dumped more than 2 feet of snow on homes. in peru, the new government declared a state of emergency today and suspended basic rights in an effort to quell violent protests. the measure will be in place for 30 days. unrest has rocked the andean nation since the congress ousted president pedro castillo last week. at least people have died in the seven clashes. ukraine says its air defenses blunted the latest russian drone attacks today, aimed at power

and water sites. in kyiv, several buildings were damaged from wreckage when drones were shot down. and, some parked cars had their windows blown out. meanwhile, at the vatican, pope francis appealed for people to redirect their christmas spending. >> let's make a more humble christmas with more humble gives and let's in whate say to the people of ukraine who need it. there's a lot of suffering, they are hungry, they are cold. so many die for lack of doctors and nurses around. let's not forget them. judy: ukraine's president zelenskyy has called for russian troops to start withdrawing by christmas. today, moscow dismissed that idea. china's president xi jinping and his ruling politburo kicked off an annual meeting today, focused on jump-starting the country's economy. prolonged covid lockdowns have taken a toll, and now,

infections are surging as restrictions are eased. the meeting is being closely watched globally for any new economic stimulus. another big auto recall is in the works. general motors today recalled some 740,000 cadillac, chevrolet, buick and gmc cars and suv's in the u.s. all recent year models. their daytime running lights may not turn off when the headlights are on, and the glare could blind oncoming drivers. on wall street, stocks gave up early gains and ended lower after the federal reserve signaled that interest rate cuts are not in the offing. the dow jones industrial average lost 142 points to close at 33,966. the nasdaq fell 86 points. the s-and-p 500 slipped 24. france is headed to the world cup finals after beating morocco, 2-nothing. it sets up a championship match on sunday with argentina. also today,

the widow of soccer journalist grant wahl said an autopsy shows he died of an aneurysm -- a ruptured blood vessel. she said " there was nothing new various about his death." and the library of congress is out with this year's inductees to the national film registry. the national film preservation board culled the list from thousands of titles, for their artistic, cultural and historical signifance. jeffrey brown reports for our arts and culture series, canvas. jeffrey to the romantic comedy : when harry met sally, the library of congress said: >> i'll have what she's having. jeffrey the 1989 film, written : by nora ephron and directed by rob reiner, was cited as one of the seminal works of the rom-com genre. this year, its enduring charm, featuring billy crystal and meg ryan, earned it a place in the national film registry where it will join 24 other familiar and lesser known works from film history.

one of the most recent: the 2008 action blockbuster starring robert downey jr as the tech genius and superhero with the title name iron man. directed by jon favreau, it was the first film that marvel studios independently produced. other pop culture films that left a mark: brian de palma's 1976 horror film adaptation of stephen king's carrie. disney's 1989 return to large scale animation with the little mermaid. and an older classic -- the first u.s. version of cyrano de bergerac from 1950. >> imagine. she has asked to see me! jeffrey: jose ferrer's performance clinched him an oscar for best actor, becoming the first hispanic actor to win. the picks span 124 years, going back to a 1898 documentary, the mardi gras carnival, capturing a parade in new orleans.

the silent film was long thought to be lost, and only recently rediscovered. another groundbreaking documentary: titicut follies, was noted for leading to social change. the 1967 frederick wiseman film exposed patient abuse at a massachusetts hospital for what were then called the criminally insane. social change of another kind is seen in films noted for spotlighting the lgbtq plus community, including: the 1977 word is out: stories of our lives the newest: 2011's pariah, a coming of age story written and directed by dee rees. >> i'm not running. i'm choosing. jeffrey: cited as quote, key film in modern queer cinema. the library of congress has selected movies every year since 1988, with a total of 850 now in the registry. next year, 25 more films will

hope to be part of that world. for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown. judy: some of the great still to ones. come on the newshour. house majority whip james clyburn discusses democrats' path forward as republicans come to power in congress. pakistan's foreign minister addresses his country's relations with the u.s. we examine the significance and impact of france's win and morocco's historic run at the world cup plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour, fr dub eta studios in shington, and in the west, from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. judy: after announcing another half point hike today, federal reserve chair jay powell indicated that more hikes are on the way in 2023 and a prolonged period of higher rates. this comes as inflation shows

signs of slowing gradually. but there are again concerns the fed is not going to be able to tame inflation without triggering a recession. geoff bennett has the latest. geoff: judy, today's rate hike is the seventh this year. all together the federal reserve has now raised interest rates from just above zero earlier this year to jt over 4%, it's highest level in 15 years. even though inflation has slowed, chairman jerome powell today explained why he believes more increases may be necessary next year. >> the worst pain would come from a failure to raise rates high enough and us allowing inflation to become entrenched in the economy so that the ultimate cost of getting it out of the economy would be very high in terms of unemployment, meaning very high unemployment for extended periods of time. i wish there were a completely

painless way to restore price stability. there isn't, this is the best we can do. geoff: we're joined now by mohamed el-erian, presidenof queen's college cambridge university and chief economic advisor at allianz. it's great to have you here. the fed's rate projections show no cuts in 2023, which is a contrast from what many people expected ahead of today's announcement. what's your assessment what you've heard from the federal reserve chairman today? >> i think they've realized that they are late. they have taken that peak rate up to 5.1%. so they're telling us they're going to do another basis 75 points. and what's most striking jeff is when they met three months ago, and provided us that projection, not a single federal officials thought we would need to go above 5%. today, just three months later, 17 out of 19 believe we should go above 5% and it just shows

you that they're playing catch up. geoff: well, you say the fed is late in addressing inflation. and you've also said that the fed has contributed to undue market volatility. how so? >> because it has been very slow in characterizing inflation initially. so maybe the whole of last year they told us it was transitory. don't worry, it will go away by itself. you could look through it and then in november, they change their mind rightly so and said it's not transitory but they didn't move in any meaningful way. so the market has had to adjust to that and we've had quite a bit of volatility and quite a bit of asset value destruction in the marketplace, as the fed embarked on what now is the most front loaded hiking cycle for 40 years. this is meaningful because we don't know what the impact on the economy is. the market right now is worried that the fed is going to push us into recession.

geoff: you use the r word, recession. are we looking at a short and shallow recession or something worse than that? >> i hope we don't end up into recession. i'm not in the camp that says 100% likely, it's probable but it's not certain. but if we do fall into it, it's very hard to assert that you'll be short and shallow. those who are saying it will be shorting with confidence or falling into the same trap as they did with transitory inflation, trying to make bad news, good news. so i'll tell you we're going into recession, don't worry, it is short and shallow. we don't know and we've got to be very careful. but the major issunow is to avoid going into a recession. geoff: so what should the fed do when inflation is so sticky and parked at 7%. >> that's the problem. once you are in suboptimal world, there is no first best. that's the cost of being late. that's the cost of

mischaracterizing inflation as transitory. it has no choice but to go further. and unfortunately, there will be collateral damage. and i say this with a heavy heart because it was avoidable. geoff: many americans have in many ways, become accustomed to paying higher prices, nearly every aspect of their lives are paying more in interest in credit cards and mortgages. but what's next? >> so it's going to be mainly services and the big question is going to be wages start moving up, and if they do, it's a double edged sword. on the one hand, it's good because people are protecting the purchasing power. on the other hand, if companies certainly pass on the highway to -- higher wages to higher prices, you have that risk of the wage price cycle. the one thing we have to remember is that while we are all feeling information, it is

-- feeling inflation, is hitting the poor particularly hard. this is not an economic issue. this is a social issue, and it has unfortunately, a lot of negative consequences. geoff: indeed, mohamed el-erian is president of queens college, cambridge university and chief economic adviser at allianz. thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. ♪ judy: lawmakers on capitol hill are working against the clock to figure out government funding bills and an assortment of other key measures before the end of the year. lisa desjardins brings us up to speed. hello, lisa. we are just two days away from the government funding running out. where does this leave us? lisa: part of the good news is at congress, as you may expect, is going to punt its own deadline down the road. moving through congress right

now is a bill to extend that deadline by another week. so what does that mean? we would have the biggest spending deadline of the year right up against christmas eve, on december 23, not the first time. now lawmakers have to get to work to actually finish funding by then. let's talk about what the options are form one of the most important functions are congress undertakes every year. first of all, one option they have is to pass what is called an omnibus. that is the traditional means of full year funding agency by agency, congress actually deciding what should go where. however, while there is a agreement in principle that was reached last night to the overall spending totals, there is an issue of timing. whether this several thousand page bill can actually be written and passed through boasts -- both chambers in time and there's a question of whether he can get the votes in both chambers. if it does not, what is the option? a continuing resolution or cr

you might hear peopl use that language. senator mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, has said if there is not an omnibus through congress by next week, by the 22nd in particular, that there will have to be a cr going until february. that is something a lot of people fear could do some damage in and of itself. senator jon tester of montana explains why. >> compared to a cr, night and day. cr is turmoil, uncertainty, and it doesn't move the country forward like it should. with this funding bill, we're on a good track to maintain this country's economic and defense posture. lisa: among the differences he said defense. there's general agreement to raise the defense budget. the authorization bill moving through congress would raise it 8%, but that won't happen if it is it cr or temporary funding

bill. so a lot of folks want the omnibus, that bigger bill, to move. however there are other people who say all this spending is way too much, we are heading toward $1.7 trillion and senator rand paul of kentucky could slow things down. here is what he said today. >> the democrats and big government republicans will be offering you a christmas tree. a christmas tree in washington is a bill that has something on it for everyone. you won't know what it is until you get it, you won't be able to read it until it's done, but it will happen because the only thing that invariably happens in washington is they wl get together to spend money. lisa: i've often call this a rainbow, a huge bill appears out of nowhere. we do expect an omnibus to appear as a rainbow, but will it have enough time, especially centers like rand paul try to slow it down. judy: we know tha these are not

the only major issues out there hanging in the balance. what else is at stake right now? lisa: let me hit a couple of them. first the electoral count act. but we are talking about there is the old, antiquated law, which really came into prominence on january 6. as you recall, there was a theory that vice president pence could himself block the certification of the presidential vote. there you see him on january 6. that led directly to the insurrection, because of that loophole, or some say confusion in the law. there is a move to try to clear that up and close any kind of theory that certification can be stopped as part of that function. another big item we are watching him a funding for ukraine, now in its 10th month. there is some $37 billion that ukraine is waiting for that is tied up in this interview are

business. judy: we are days away from republicans taking over control of the house. where does the battle for that leadership stand? lisa it is messy. i think we need to start talking about some particulars he as regards kevin mccarthy. i nt our viewers -- our -- to understand something called the motion to vacate. kevin mccarthy is short the number of votes he needs from republicans to become speaker of the house. the motion to vacate the chair is a motion to remove the speaker of the house itself. some of the holdout votes who stand in the way of mr. mccarthy becoming speaker of the house are demanding that it be easier for them to bring up that motio if they are unhappy with mr. mccarthy later down the road. this exact kind of motion was a factor in the resignation of john boehner. it was not actually voted on, but just the threat of it being raised was enough for him to leave.

essentially, think of this sort of as a motion of disapproval, something that could undermine the speaker. right now, it takes a majority of all republicans to do this kind of thing. summon the freedom caucus and others who don't like mr. mccarthy say they want it to be easier. they want to be able to hold that threat over him. he said he wants to keep it the same, but the question is, will he be able to do that? i talked to a long-term republican member of congress who doesn't talk to many reporters and who is a mccarthy ally, but he told me in confidence today, it's not looking good right now. they are honestly not sure how this will all resolve. judy: i know you are watching that and so much else. lisa, thanks very much. ♪

on this day 10 years ago, a mass shooting forever chaed the small town of newtown, connecticut. twenty students and six educators were killed at sandy hook elementary school. was one of the worst mass shootings u.s. history. william brangham spoke with one of the parents who lost a child that day. william: just steps away from the rebuilt sandy hook elementary school sits a new memorial site and etched into the ring of granite, are twenty six names of those massacred that day. one of them is dylan hockley, a six year old first grader. in the decade since his murder, his mother, nicole hockley, along with other sandy hook families, have channeled their grief into action. hockley co-founded the organization sandy hook promise. it's a nonprofit that works to prevent further tragedies by helping students identify and report the warning signs of

someone who is planning violence. i spoke with hockley yesterday, just ahead of this anniversary. ten years ago, what was probably the worst day of your entire life happens, and your whole family has to deal with at blow and suffer through that trauma and that grief. but now here we are, almost ten years later. how does that grief sit with you today? is it se-pevntre? what is that like for you, today? >> the grief is absolutely ever present. and i think about dylan every single day, but it's kind of like a scab has formed over my heart. and at times if a certain memory comes up or a certain smell or another tragedy occurs, it's like that scab is ripped off and my heart is broken and bleeding anl over again.d as time goes bt

of time that scab stays on is longer. but it's still ever present. and part of my daily life. william: so that wound hasn't healed in any way that we would recognize as fully healed? >> no. and i don't expect it to ever fully heal. you know, i'm a mom whose son was murdered in his first grade classroom. that's not something that you move on from. it's just something that you live with every day and find a way to keep moving forward. william: tragedies like this occur, i mean obviously the person is taken away from you, but that person ishin also frozen in time. dylan will always be a six year old boy, and yet time marches on, you get older, your son jake gets older, but yet dylan is always just that little boy. >> well, i can only really speak for me in my experience.

even my surviving son is forging a different path in this process and he thinks differently. but time is pretty warped, really. like i can't really reconcile the fact that it's been 10 years since i held dylan, since i heard him laugh, since i took him to school. and yet jake, my surviving son, is now 18. he was at school that day, he was in third grade. he is now a freshman in college. he's taller than me. and and i also see, you know, other kids that, you know, dylan is forever six. and i see other kids in his grade who are now 16, who are now, you know, in high school and starting to think about college. and they're taller than me d they're mature. and yet dylan is forever my six year old boy. he is frozen in time. and that life is very much frozen in time as well. william: we are approaching this anniversary, this ten year event where the rest of the country

again tries, in its own way, to commemorate and remember what happened. i know there is that conversation that is always going on in your community, in newtown, as to how much this event resonates, how it, i don't know, defines or redefines your community. when you are out in the town, how does that feel? do you feel like it is also an ever present part of that community? >> for some people it is an ever present part. newtown is not defined by the tragedy, but you can't go out in the rest of the country and say you are from there without someone making a remark in morning to share their experience. white often you will hear them talk about, i remember where i was when i heard the news. it has become a moment in our american history and for many of

our residents, it is ever present. however, the people i talked to in that i note want to also be remembered as the place that created change. william: your organization runs trainings to try to train people to help identify who out there might be troubled and to teach people how to intervene. can you tell us a little more about that work? >> sure, it is absolutely critical to recognize warning signs when someone might be going into crisis and is at risk of hurting themselves or hurting someone else, and then take action to intervene. the reason we focus our programs in school is because a lot of these at risk behaviors, especially that manifest in the teenage years and the early 20's, a lot of this is on social media, and kids are able to see and hear things that the adults ae not able to. they are communicating on different channels from adults.

that's why we teach kids, how do you recognize when your friend needs help? how do you recognize a subtle or an overt threat on social media? how do you take action to get that information to a trusted adult so that intervention can be made? william: mask about jake, your other son who survived that terrible shooting that day. he has grown up in a world where not only did he have two deal with the loss of a brother, but he also sees on the news, the news about mass shootings constantly. i wonder, what is your sense of what that does to him, how he sees the world, how he is processing all of that? >> it's interesting, jake is kind of a silent processor. they say still waters run deep, and that is very much the case with jake. he is so aware and still has

huge empathy and compassion, yet he has decided not to use his voice yet. he still wants to define himself and his own path. town of newtown, connecticut. it is hard to know sometimes what is typical teenage boy and what is grief. so we talk about that a lot. i'm so proud of the young man that he is and the person that he continues to become. i don't know, i think sometimes he has seen the worst that the world can give you, and he has experienced and lived that. and he has also seen that you can survive that and create your own destiny. william: we are talkingith you before the anniversary, this 10 year anniversary. i know that on the day you come as you say, go silent. i wonder, can you just share a little bit about what it is you do on the actual anniversary? >> i will wake up as i always do and kiss dylan's turn -- urn and

tell him that i love him and miss him. i go to his playground and have some quiet time there. usually leave behind some sort of momento at the playground, once i brought one of his stuffed animals and left it on a bench for some other child. it's just one of my rituals. then i usually just go to the beach and will walk the shores for several hours, because it's a way for me to ground myself and be in nature. it helps me from from my grief, overwhelming me to be nearer to nature and know that there's something significantly larger than me and my grief. william: sounds like a beautiful way to remember, and to keep living. nicole hockley, so good to talk to you. thank you so much for talking with us. >> thank you for the

opportunity. ♪ judy: the select subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis wrapped up two years of its work today with a vote to adopt several recommendations, namely improving management of future pandemics. for more on that and lawmakers year in priorities, i spoke a short time ago with the third ranking democrat in the house, majority whip james clyburn of south carolina. congressman clyburn, thank you very much for joining us. remind us what the mission of this select subcommittee was, and what are your main findings about the early management of this crisis? >> very much -- thank you very much for finding me.

you were member covered crisis started in 2020. when our nation began to respond, our response was inadequate for many reasons. some is that we were not prepared for this pandemic. but in the process of getting prepared, congress went to work appropriating moneys to do things that needed to be done to keep businesses open, try to keep schools open, try to get people vaccinated, but first you had to get adjusted. so we were really behind the eight ball and rushed a lot of money out there to do that. in the midst of all of that, speaker nancy pelosi decided that there needed to be some oversight of all of this. and so she created this subcommittee.

we went to work and we adopted three words as our watchwords. efficiency, whether or not this money was being spent efficiently, whether or not it's being spent effectively, and whether or not it's being spent equitably. this committee was created without a single republican vote, but our job was to oversee the spending of the money. and i think we did a pretty good job. judy: and the republicans, as you know, are saying that the committee should've also focused on the biden administration course the pandemic has continued right through the first couple of years of this administration. what about that? rep. clyburn: we did focus on

the biden admistration. and we commended the biden administration for cleaning up the misinformation that was left over from the former administration. we remember what happened back then. president trump decided that it would all be over in a week or two. started out saying two or three people, started coming out with all kinds of cures that did not exist, and denying the science. and our investigation determined that there were a lot of people in his administration that were overruling the activities of the scientists, putting their politics above the betterment of the people. and that's part of what we were doing.

if you look at the rescue act, which was signed by prident biden, within six weeks of taking office. inhe rescue act got shots in people's arms, got schools reopened, got people back to work, and we still are trying to recover, and we are doing a much better j, letting the scientists do their work. judy: republicans are now saying when they take over the majority in january that they are going to do their own investigation of the way the biden this pandemic. how concerned are you about that? rep. clyburn: not at all. not at all. we did look into the biden administration, and once again, throughout all of this, even today, and ting to issue our

report, they are still harking it back to china and what initiatives may have been between this country and china. that was not our job. our job is to look at the money that was going out, if it was being used efficiently, effectively, and equitably. we saw in instance after instance. judy: several of the things i want to ask you about, with the change in the majority in january, incoming democrats have voted on their leadership in the next congress. you are the only one of the senior members of the democratic caucus who is staying on. speaker pelosi and others have stepped down. why did you decide that you should stay on? rep. clyburn: for many reasons, there were many reasons that were clear to me, that the south

need to be there. i would remind people that i'm the only one in leadership that was ever denied by law to even get to congress in the first place. i was 52 years old before the voting rights act allowed me to go. at 52 years old, and i'm very pleased that things have worked in such a way, and now at the age of 52, hakeem jeffries has become the leader of our party. a lot of us paid some significant sacrifices to get to this part, i among them. as i have said to people who ke raising that issue, i didn't get to the leadership table at thsame time they did. so why should i be expected to leave? judy: why do you think the south is less represented in the democratic party, or in

democratic leadership? rep. clyburn: because we have allowed these laws to exist. my parents, i remember when my parents voted for the first time. i remember that. because laws did not allow them to vote. and we all know when it became theaw of the land. in south carolina where i live, when i was growing up, african-americans were the majority in the state, but zero in elective office. why? because we allowed these laws to exist. so these new laws that are coming off the books now, the voting rights act, we now see so of these laws coming back into place. judy: i want to ask about the presidential primary calendar.

president biden has recommended that south carolina go first, that iowa we taken out of the early running, that i be south carolina, nevada, georgia, and michigan. we are hearing not just from republicans but from democrats who are saying democrats might be making a mistake by cutting out estate like iowa, while yes, it is primarily white, it is also rural, at a time when democrats need to connect with rul americans. rep. clyburn: south carolina is rural. more than half of my congressional district is rural. more than half of african-americans who live in this country live in the south. so what reflects the democratic party more, south carolina or iowa? new hampshire or georgia? judy: representative james clyburn, who is the democratic

party whip in the house of representatives, thank you very much. rep. clyburn: thank you. ♪ judy: it has been a year of political tumult and natural disasters in pakistan. and to the west, there is another humanitarian crisis in neighboring afghanistan. it's a full slate of urgent issues for pakistan's foreign minister, bilawal bhutto zardari. a short time ago, amna nawaz spoke with him, and asked him for his thoughts on the ofn-tense relationship between pakistan and the united states. >> i absolutely believe we are now heading in a positive direction with increased engagement on both sides and i think it is all the more important in a world that offers a multitude of challenges for us to find areas in which we agree

on to work together, and we are doing that on climate, on health, we are finding business and economic opportunities, particularly for women. those are all areas where pakistan and the u.s. are cooperating. it is a healthy sign, given in the past our operation is very narrow and specific in the war on terror, is now more broad-based. amna: your nation has announced a discounted oil deal with russia. you've also strengthened your ties with china. can you ally with the u.s. and still do business with their geopolitical folks? >> china is our neighbor, we have a long history with them and we have a lot of cooperation, particularly on the economic front. we also have a historical relationship with united states that stretches back to the 1950's and over the course of

history, i believe whenever the united states and pakistan have worked together, we have achieved great things. whenever there has been an distance developed between us, they have faltered. i do think it is possible to engage with both china and the u.s. we aren't receiving any discounted energy. but we are facing an extremely difficult economic situation. inflation, oil prices. we do have energy insecurity and we are exploring various avenues to expand our areas where we can get our energy from. any energy that we receive from russia will take a long time for us to develop. amna: i'd like to ask about the political landscape back in pakistan. the former prime minister was ousted in a no contest vote earlier this year. he is very popular, and in

october he won six out of seven national assbly seats he contested in prior elections. if you are to hold early elections, would he when? >> you are absolutely right, he was removed through no-confidence motion which was a cornerstone in pakistan's democratic development. it was the first time through democratic constitutional procedure that a prime minister was removed from parliament. he resigned from sees that he held himself. i believe there is a false perception about his popularity through social media, winning seats is some sorts estimate to his popularity. amna: you are saying you will

not be calling for? ? early elections, is that correct >> pakistan's democratic achievement over the last decade is we've had one after another complete their full-term. that parliament completed its term and peacefully transferred power to the next. i don't think it is a justifiable reason for pakistan to break that precedent just because he has a remain prime minister for six months. amna: you have call for pakistan to engage with the taliban readership and allow freedom to let girls back into school. they have done the opposite, they have rolled back those rights. girls have been out of school for over 450 days. what can you in your role do to pressure them to allow women to have equal freedom and allow girls back into school? >> let me unpack that.

as far as advocating for the world to engage with afghanistan, that is absolutely correct, and something i have been insisting on. i believe we should not repeat the mistakes of the past. the last time afghanistan -- it left us with more problems and resulted in having to go back all over again. so absolutely weis ins must engage with afghanistan. as far as women's rights are concerned and women's education is concerned, i believe women have a right to education and a right to have a place in society at all levels. the fact that pakistan elected the first female muslim prime minister, these are examples for us. in the afghanistan context, obviously we encoage them to do the same for afghan girls. this is a commitmen they have

made with the international community, with their own people , so we do hope that they live up to their own commitment. i would also like to note however that they have been in power for a little bit ov a year, and one year isn't a very long time for them to be able to deliver in afghanistan. it is a long time, however, for girls to go without an education. that is why i continue to raise it with them. we encourage the fact that primary education for girls is allowed in afghanistan. we look forward to the day when secondary education ll also be allowed. amna: you do come from a storied political dynasty in pakistan. your father was executed under military dictatorship and your mother was the first woman to lead the nation and was

assassinated campaigning for reelection. your critics say politics shouldn't be a family affair, though. i wonder what you would say to that. >> i agree that politics shouldn't be a family affair. perhaps more than anyone, i wish it wasn't. in the last 55 years of my party's existence, we have gone through three generations of leadership. this will still be the first generation of my family doing politics, nevertheless me having to step up and fulfill the role i'm having to fulfill today. i will advocate for democracy in pakistan and leave it for the people in pakistan to decide who they wish to elect and be there representation. amna: that is the foreign minister of pakistan joining us tonight. thank you for your time. >> thank you for having me. ♪

judy: after an impressive run, morocco's journey to the world cup championship came to a close today after its match against france, a country that shares a complicated history with the north african nation. john yang has more on the cinderella story of the first african and arab team to advance to the semi finals. john judy, france scored early : and held off pressure from morocco to win 2- that sends france to sunday's championship game and ends morocco's historic world cup run. shireen ahmed is a sports journalist who is a senior contributor to the cbc sports. france now going to the finals tries to become the fir repeat winner of the world cup since brazil in 1962. y is it so unusual to have back-to-back world cup champions? >> well, we can start talking about superstition, and very

often those that won the championship crash out. i think france is trying to avoid that superstition and go forward and play with a passionate team, they have season, returning players including one of the oldest players at the tournament. then you have young superstars, so there is quite a mix. and very storied careers already . i think they are ready to go again and they are not ready to let up or give up their dream for another championship. john: you talk about storied careers, messi has won just about everything but the world cup. >> where we are at this juncture, i feel like incredibly torn because at the same time, i really would love to see france when, there is such interesting and rich discussion about their team, the makeup, the diaspora.

but argentina having messi and having watched him grow up, he is also in his 30's and probably definitely his last world cup. i consider messi to be like the kitten of global football. how can you not love him? he has no drama surrounding him. he takes photos with children. he is lovely in a very ban way,al -- in a very banal way on the pitch. we love to see him. john: morocco is not going to the finals, but they did make history today. they were the first african, the first arab team to make it to the semifinals. talk about the significance of that. >> i was very lucky to be in

qatar for morocco playing canada. i have loved football for decades. i've never seen such exuberant fans, mexican fans are the most emphatic. i have never seen fans like this before. it was a treat to be there. the whistling, the cheering, the flag-waving, it was the heart of it morocco went out and left their heart and everything they had on the pitch. but their fans and their communities and their families were holding them. we like to think we know a lot about football, but what rocco showed us particularly was how community is really important. family is really important. just how they were inviting everyone to witness this joy, particularly when this is such a masculine sport, and just to show how important their mental

and emotional health was. i think that leads to a greater conversation and one that is really important. they will be dearly missed in the final. but they are playing for third place, let's not forget. they will face croatia, and that's not going to be an easy match. but i think they have earned a lot of respect, and that part of the world, north africa is often dismissed. a lot of people don't know that the women's team in morocco, football is certainly growing there. very often we dismiss certain places in the world that we have truly seen that this is the world's game. john: you talk about how moroccan fans really took over the stands at the world cup. talk about how this sort of displayed the nuanced history and heritage of morocco. >> iquite complicated.

people in different parts of the world need to understand that we like to compartmentalize this as an african nation. the reality is, it is a nation that is comprised of many peoples. there are arabs, there are historically nomadic tribes. it is complex and layered and beautiful at the same time. but there are still discussions out how arab cultures and the rest of the world have embraced morocco on their own. there are issues of antiblack racism in the country as well. it is not simple. people have found love and joy in something they can relate to and that is important moving forward. there are some incredible riders

out there, for example an north african football journalist, and it is important we centralize our coverage here. it is important to read about teams from journalists who know a lot, historically and sociologically about those laces. that is on thing i'm definitely taking away from this world cup. john: thank you veryuch. judy: great conversation. and that is the nshour for tonight. join us online and again here tomoow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, please stay safe and we'll see you soon. newshour has been provided by -- -- >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by -- >> for 25 years, consumer cellular's goal offers a variety of no contract plans and our u.s. based customer service team

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