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>> senate, -- secretary of state antony blinken visits earthquake ravaged turkey, where search and rescue efforts are winding down. >> we see the extent of the damage. the number of building, the number of apartments, the number of homes that have been destroyed. it is going to take a massive effort to rebuild but, simply put, the united states is here. john: then, as some companies consider switching to a four day work week, the arguments for and against the change. we speak to a university swimming coach at a historically black college.
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by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station by viewers like you. thank you. john: good evening, i am john yang. antony blinken is in turkey for a firsthand look from the devastation on the earthquakes that hit the region two weeks ago. he pledged $100 million in disaster aid to help the country rebuild. >> words of consolation. it's hard to put into words. you see buildings collapse. the search-and-rescue is coming to nn. there will be a massive
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rebuilding effort. >> it can't stop until mountains of degree are cleared away. tens of thousands of buildings were destroyed. that work is slow as grieving families want a sense of closure. it'important. >> nearly two weeks later, the death toll is climbing in workers are finding fewer sig of life. an untold number of people are unaccounted for. in syria, it's been slow to arrive and hold up at the border. >> before we were four families in one house. now, 12 families. we keep them warm.
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the home did not collapse. it was just damaged, thank god. >> the world health organization estimates 26 million people urgently need help with shelter, medicine and psychological support. she was in both syria and turkey. a 17-year-old thought he would die beneath the rubble. >> i think this is the last video i will ever shoot 40. >>'s family was trapped nearby. >> i was yelling. my voice was not going across. john: all of the children survived, but many did not. >> one activists honor them with balloons. they wanted the activity to be called by less present to the children. every time we type alone my heart hurts. we've tied 1000 balloons so far.
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we will continue until we reach all parts of the city. john: balloons are for the living. young survivors play with volunteers. they learn to cope with all they have lost. in the nearby syrian capital, state media says airstrikes have left five people dead and dozens wounded. that left a gaping crater industry. responders come through the rubble for survivors. there has been no israeli comments. in memphis, tennessee, one person is dead and 10 others injured in a pair of overnight shootings. police believe the incidents are connected.
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no arrests have been made but they have identified several purpose this persons of interest. they are still on edge after the police beating of terry nichols. the incident adds to mass shootings across the country in recent days. six people were killed and one injured in rural mississippi on friday. three students died and five were injured on michigan state university's campus monday night. michigan state resumes classes tomorrow, despite some calls for a delay. actor richard belzer has died. he began his career as a standup comedian became known on homicide and law and order spu. >> you had one hell of a run. >> i'm over it went. -- not know where it went. john: he was 70 years old.
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still to come on "pbs news weekend", the selling of personal data collected by mental health apps. a conversation with the coach of the last remaining swim team at an historically black college. >> this is pbs news weekend from washington. john: in 1926, henry ford instituted a five-day 40 hour workweek with no loss of pay for saturdays off. this is now the standard. now, there is a push to consider a 32 hour workweek with no loss in pay. how practical is that? earlier, i spoke with an economist to test a four-day workweek.
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i asked about the results. >> it's a good idea because we have seen in the trials that have taken place that most companies have said they plan on making the policy permanent. revenue has remained stable or increased and they have experienced productivity is able to be maintained or improved. unsurprisingly. it is something that can be better for business. john: is there a cost for this? >> there is. i can't believe that if this werepplied that we would not see substantial decline in output and a substantial decline in people's incomes.
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if employers could do this, why haven't theyone this? everyone would win, i just am thick they can. john: what do you say? >> i agree that this is not a one-size-fits-all model. i'm not arguing it should be the new norm. there are many sectors, indust and companies. i am arguing most companies could move to a four-day week without needing to increase headcount or damaging business performance, priorities or productivity. when they attack unnecessary meetings, processes that are outdated or efficient and poor use of technology, it can go a long way without undermining the bottom line. john: what about the point that
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if this is such a great idea, why haven't they done it? >> before the pandemic, it was not acceptable, thsite did it you can run a global company from your kitchen table. that you can be productive at home and in the office. it took a game changer like the pandemic to dislodge these norms. i believe the same is true. this is open the eyes of leaders and managers. john: you say it is a trade-off. where do the benefits become so great that they outweigh the loss of productivity? >> it depends on preferences. some people would need to take a 5% or 8% cut in income. the point is, there are a lot of industries where this does not work. manufacturing cars on the
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assembly line, i don't see why working fewer hours is going to get an more for less output. there has been a huge trend already before the pandemic toward more four-day work. we went from 1% in 1973 to 6% in 2018. i expected to go up. it's a good thing. john: there are some models in the united states or it's a compressed week, four days before the hours. what do you think about that? >> the difficulty with that model, i'm not persuaded that people are as productive in their ninth or 10th hour on wednesday. i'm not persuaded from a burnout
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perspective the people are likely to be better rested. the research is not conclusive that this is something good for business and people, and the other point i would make is it overlooks the power of the incentive. get time back in exchange for the same pay, people are focused and motivated and driven in order to achieve the goals. john: what do you say to that? the point about efficiency and productivity having diminishing returns? >> it is quite correct on that. even a 10 hour day people are doing nothing. this would keep up the output we now have. the crucial point is people like bunching leisure.
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in industries, medical hospitals, 12 hour days three days a week is full-time. that accords very well with the demands of clients not to have the patient shifted. all of this depends on >> appropriate. i doubt there are that many industries where four days will leave us as well off. john: thank you both very much. >> thanks for having me. john: there are thousands of mental health apps available on your phone and computer. they promised all kinds of services. they can be helpful but what
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happens with personal information? >> demand for mental health care sword during the pandemic, and many americans turned to these apps for care. users are asked to fill out personal and medical histories and answer mental health surveys mu as he would at a doctor's ofce. but, there is no oversight protected oversight. duke university found data brokers were selling information. many removed personal information but some included names and addresses of invidual seeking care. justin is a senior fellow who runs the brokerage project and overw this recent report.
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thank you for being here. i imagine people would be alarmed to know the data brokers are selling this information, especially to is connectedo their names. can you give us a sense of how specific is the data that is being sold? >> absolutely. we uncovered a range of data about all continental health conditions. it ranges from depression and anxiety to ptsd, ocd. people battling trauma and people who strokes. if you imagine a spreadsheet with rose, perhaps it was like how many people in the zip code have depression? they might have the data but the broker was not selling people's names. we found cases where there would be names attached and addresses
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or emails, and even data on race and ethnicity and how many children are in the home. >> can you have me understand the market place? what is the value of selling and reselling this information? >> most americans assume health data is protected all the time. unfortunately, that's not true. there are range of companies were not covered by the narrow health privacy regulations we have. they are free, legally to collect and share and sell this data. it enables a range of companies who can't get this normally, advertising firms, big pharma, health insurance cpanies to buy up this data and do things and run ads, about consumers.
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to make determinations about health care pricing. brokers enable the data to get that information. >> that say someone is watching it is concerned they might have information they want to protect. can they call the companies and say do not share? can they get it deleted? >> there are some places in the united states where consumers can tell companies to not sell their formation. california allows consumerso do this. not every state has these rules. we don't have them federally. the real challenge is most people are not aware the data is being collected in the first place. even if you knew it was, woul go to to tell them to stop
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selling the information? the obscurity and shadows makes it hard for consumers themselves to be able to do anything without stronger privacy regulations. >> do you know any efforts to try and tighten those regulations? >> there are some underway. the ftc recently ok action against a large prescription provider because they were falsely advertising that it was regulated by health privacy laws when it was not. it was secretly sharing health data with facebook, google and other companies. there is some space for regulators to come in and say this is deceptive.
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there have also been a couple of bills of the federal level to address this. we have privacy battles ongoing in congress. >> dustin sherman at duke university. thank you so much. john: the sport of swimming is dominated by white athletes. 2% of swimmers are black. one school trying to change that. howard university has been the only historically black school with the swim team. we have more on the place to bring more diversity to the sport. >> this week, the swim team is set to compete in the conference championship. if they win, it will be the first title in more than 30 years.
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howard is home to about one third of black college swimmers. they hope the successful inspire more black americans to take the dive. this from coach joined me now. how are you feeling? >> feeling super good. our team is done the work. having some fun. >> and want to ask you about the team and what makes it so special. i hear that you have quite a crowd showing up at meetings. >> our home events are events. we took a lot of time thinking about how we can get people to come out and support the team. number one, music. we have a dj for all of our home meets. number two, offer some food.
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they're hot, long. you want to lose your supporters because they were hungry. the thing we work super hard on is delivering a product will be interested in. we have to be good enough to win and compete. >> you are not just a ach, you're a one-man marketing team. i want to talk about what is going on in the world of swimming. from what i understand, it's only howard that has this program. why is that? >> we are glad to be the flagship. we are helpful in praying others are taking note and are able to do it. prior to the 1980's, there were 20 eight cpus that had programs.
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there are so many young lack and brown chilen out there aspiring to swim at this level and what the experienc >> why do see such low participation? you feel like black seven shut out. what doou mean by that? >> absolutely. we have to be honest about the lack of access, integration and people in the inner cities were mostly minorities, the people who moved out were mostly white. when they moved out, the facilities that were there for public access started to wear down to the point where they could not be operational. on the contrast, you had country clubs that minorities were not able to get to and were denied nurture.
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from africa were swimmers. the transatlantic slave trade, they were taken from the homeland and were enslaved. they were severely punished for trying to escape. as a loved one, mother, father or sibling, you are telling families to stay away from the water. they were denied access on such a grand scale the diminish the amount of people of color and other minorities that can't swim or pursue competitive opportunities. >> it sounds like you are on much more of the mission than
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just winning the championship. it sounds if you have a point you want to make. >> absolutely. what we do and talkbout as a program is the representation to dispel the myth that blackstone swim. >> what would you like to see the future be? >> swimming, every small step in the right direction. we like to have fun. we love for people to see is as a representation that we are not in our wheelhouse to accomplish,
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we want to be inspiration in all aspects of life. >> i wish you and your team the best of luck. some of. -- thank you so much. john: that is cbs news weekend for this sunday. on monday, we begin the series marking one year since the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine. the drone war over the embattled nation. thank you for joining us. have a good week. >> major funding has been provided by. >> for 25 years, consumer cellular has been providing no contract wireless lands. our customer service team can help you find the team that fits you. to learn more, visit consumer
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