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>> good evening and welcome. i am amna nawaz. presiden biden and prime minister trudeau announce an immigration deal to address the growing number of asylum-seekers entering canada from the united states. house republicans push a controversial bill that would give parents more control over school curricula. and a shortage of an asthma medication is expected to worsen after one of only two u.s. manufacturers shuts down. >> we really need additional manufacturers to step up and start adding this to their portfolio so we are not reliant on a single source for medications.
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retaliation after an iranian made drone killed a u.s. contractor and wounded six other americans. >> we don't seek escalation with iran, but the strikes last night were intended to send a very clear message that we will take the protection of our personnel seriously and respond quickly and decisively if they are threatened. >> syrian human rights monitors reported new airstrikes. in canada, president biden says the u.s. military will do what's needed to safeguard its 900 troops in northeastern syria. french president emmanuel macron insisted today he won't be deterred from raising the retirement age to 64 despite the worst street violence in years. trouble erupted overnight after a day of largely peaceful protests. today crews in paris sifted through damage in the wake of street battles between anarchists and police. but macron vowed to press on.
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>> in the face of violence, which i distinguish from the protests, we continue to be extremely firm. i assurthe police of my support who did an exemplary job. we continue to move forward. the country deserves it and needs it. >> the protested a forced king charles to postpone a state visit scheduled to start on sunday. france has also announced it will ban tiktok from government devices. the hugely popular video sharing app is under fire for its ties to china amid rising security concerns. the u.s. and other countries have moved toward similar restrictions. israel's attorney general warned that benjamin netanyahu is breaking a conflict of interest law. he has barred from pushing to overhaul the courts while on trial for corruption. on thursday he said he's going ahead. the attorney general said today,
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your statement last night and any action you take in violation of this matter is illegal. paul russo sighed again has been released from custody and will be freed fromwanda soon. he saved hundreds of people in the 1994 genocide, inspiring the film hotel rwanda. in 2021 he was sentenced to 25 years in prison for terrorism after accusing rwanda's president of human rights abuses. in ukraine, a new round of russian air attacks killed at least 10 civilians to and wounded 20 more. missiles, exploding drones and artillery struck sites across eastern ukraine. an aid station was hit where five refugees died. the human rights office issued a report detailing killings and torture of prisoners of war on both sides. >> we are deeply concerned about the summary execution of up to
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25 russian prisoners of war by ukrainian ard forces. we are also deeply concerned by the summary execution of 15 ukrainian prisoners of war shortly after being captured by russian armed forces. >> the documentation could be used in possible trials at the international criminal court or other tribunals. kentucky's democratic governor andy beshear vetoed a republican bill focused otransgender children. it would ban gender affirming care for those under the age of 18 and restrict school bathrooms. the republican dominated legislature passed the bill by vetoproof margins and could vote next week on overriding the veto. public schools in los angeles reopened today after a three day strike by teachers aides, bus drivers and others. up to 30,000 union members walked out this week to demand higher pay.
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it's unclear if negotiators made any progress during the strike. on wall street stocks managed small advances despite ongoing worries about the banking industry. the dow jones industrial average again to 132 points to close at 32,000. the nasdaq rose 36 points. the s&p 500 added 22. still to come on the newshour, david brooks and jonathan capehart way in on the week's political headlines. a collector of memories reflects on the u.s. invasion of iraq 20 years later. a husband-and-wife team in rural indiana use art to combat consumerism and waste plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour from w eta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. >> on his first presidential trip to canada, president biden
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met with prime minister justin trudeau and the duo announced an northern border deal to address the growing number of migrants crossing from the u.s. into canada. canada saw 40,000 crossings at unofficial points of entry last year, the highest number in five years. most of those were in upstate new york, where the crossing into quebec has become the busiest route for asylum-seekers. the deal allows canada to turn away people at a entry points. canada also pledged to welcome 15,000 central american migrants through legal pathways. president biden spoke about the deal. >> i applaud canada for opening up new legal pathways for 1500 migrants to come to canada. the united states and canada will work together to discourage unlawful border crossings.
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welcoming refugees and seeking asylum seekers as a part of who canadians and americans are. >> watching all this close as the executive director of the refugee center in montreal. his group has been working with migrants who cross the border into canada. thanks for joining us. let's start with the impact of that agreement announced today. how big a change in this is in terms of -- in terms of how migrants are processed when they come into canada? >> it's a big change. we usually encounter about 40,000 individuals and now the significant number reduced to 15,000. it's kind of scary. these individuals are seeking safety in canada and seeking asylum. they are going to try to come here whichever way they can. it is big change. >> what about the part of the
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deal where canada will open up additional legal pathways for people to arrive from some of those south and central american countries. what do you make of that? >> it's a very small step. 15,000 compared to the 40,000 we had in this last year. it's also just from the western hemisphere. a lot of individuals come in from afghanistan, libya, yemen, west africa. it is a mix of individuals who are seeking safety. there is a global disorder right now and a lot of individuals are trying to migrate to safer areas because they are facing persecution. i don't think it's well thought out. i think it's a knee-jerk reaction to the politicization of the topic. >> when you talk to these families, what do they tell you about why they are deciding to try to come to canada in particular? >> i think canada has this
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reputation that welcomes refugees and asylum-seekers. they believe they have a chance at due process. individuals don't feel they have the same safety in the united states. they believe their best chance to seek safety and have their stories heard is in canada. >> what about your immigration system? we have seen in the united states the system has been really taxed when we have seen the same increase of people arriving at the u.s. southern border. canada is now seeing a dramatic rise in the number of people seeking asylum. how has your system been able to handle it? >> just like any system, it's a little bit of a strain. it's nothing we cannot handle. we accepted over 150,000 ukrainians as refugees into the country a our infrastructure was able to accommodate that.
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90,000 individuals claim to this last year through points of entry, we were able to accommodate that as well. obviously with some more investment andore health -- help. we can accommodate it and create systems to accommodate more. this kind of response is a bit fearful because when we are restricting migration patterns, people resort to different means and bad-faith actors might come in and we could see human smuggling or human trafficking as well. >> officials say agreements like this will help discourage unlawful migration. do you agree? >> i don't think so. i think it would be pretty bad deterrent policy.
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individuals are coming to seek safety no matter what, by any means necessary. this is our fear. we don't want bad-faith actors coming here and taking advantage of people, allowing more regularized pathways to migration with members that actually reflect migration patterns is a better solution. 15,000 i don't think is good. >> mr. trudeau's government pledged to increase immigration. they welcome to arriving refugees from syria with open arms. canada is always seen as a welcoming place for arriving populations. do you think the politics of this moment, you will see that change in canada in terms of the welcoming spirit? >> no, the spirit of the people
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is very strong. everyone heres very welcoming towards refugees. there is politicization of this particular topic and with the wrong policy, people can polarize it. we do think these numbers are more regularized fashion will continue our current welcoming spirit. these increased numbers again is just a reflection. 15,000 i think is just a drop in the bucket. we can definitely do more. we hope there is a current challenge to save the country and we hope the challenge goes through. >> executive director of the refugee center in montreal, thank you for joining us. today the u.s. house stepped into the fiery debate about kids
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and classrooms. passing a bill that publicans call states rights but opponents called dangerous move in a culture war. >> for years, flaring. >> i am so upset that i have to stand before this board. >> rising. >> we can't trust that you would actually listen to us. >> and sometimes roaring. debates over schools and kids have now reached the u.s. capitol. >> should parents have the right to be involved in their child's education. that is the question before us. >> what about the rights of our students? what about the rhts of our young people. why are my republican colleagues not advocating for our students? >> house republicans passed a priority bill. it is hr five, called the
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parents bill of rights. it would require that parents be allowed to see curriculum plans, lists of materials and can look at any available books. also they would be told about school budgets and any incidents of violence. republicans say this is simple. it comes out of years of covid lockdowns and parent sidelining. a department of justice noticed in 2021 about threats to teachers and school boards. some parents felt they were labeled as the threat. >> these parents are not to be labeled as domestic terrorists. they are proud parents. >> the debate shows this is also a political and cultural battle with much deeper layers to it. >> there is this hostility to traditional values that is seeping into the public schools today. >> and in response, deep opposition to this from some parents. >> no on hr five. >> these parents from the
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national parents union leave the bill could harm their bills -- their kids with a chilling effect on what they can read. they came from across the country to say it misses the real issues in their schools. she sees increased violence and kids, especially kids of color failed by schools and resource issues. she thinks this bill is a dangerous distraction. >> it's devastating to our community that our kids can't read but we want to debate what good -- what books are going to be taken out of the curriculum. if the kids can't read, what does it matter anyway? let's focus on the real meat and potatoes and that is about student and family success. >> others disagree.
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>> i am a resident of west chester pennsylvania. >> she has a mom who ran and won after her own experience left her feeling shut out by school officials. >> my advocacy for my children characterized as some politica ploy was really hurtful. >> the republican bill, she claims, is also not about banning anything. >> what it says, what it affirms is that parents have a right to know what is being taught. >> at the capitol though. >> general debate. >> most controversial has been part of the bill requiring teachers to notify parents if children are being treated as transgender. republicans say that addresses parent fears of being in the dark. >> our bill enshrines
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commonsense transparency for parents of children to reflect these concerns. >>emocrats say that is dangerous for kids. >> this is about mile got republicans who want to start a fake culture war targeting some of the most vulnerable kids in america. in our kids classrooms. shame on you. >> all of this comes with its own civics lessons about parents with the same ardent motivation but in completely separate conversations. >> this could be a unique opportunity but will keep puing us apart because we are not listening. >> house republicans celebrated the bills passage today it is not expected to move in the senate. >> to talk about what this means for families, a journalist who covers the education podcast have you heard and is co-author of a book about the future of
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public education. let's just take the politicians out for a second. what do we know about where americans are on this issue of parents and schools? >> one thing we know is that the polls have been remarkably consistent over the past couple of years that parents and americans across the board and i am talking about both political parties which is so unusual right now, opposition to anything having to do with book bands and limits on what teachers can teach and kids can learn is broad and deep. and i think people might be really surprised to hear that because you probably think that these laws that keep popping up must be in response to popular demand and that actually is not the case. >> i want to take apart the sides of this. with the parents driving this idea, what do we know about the idea that parents in this country are getting blocked out?
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what is happening with school systems? >> i think it's really important to acknowledge just how awful the pandemic was for everyone for parents in particular. i think it would be a big mistake for us to just write off this movement as astroturf or the product just of politicians who want tstir the pot in order to reap political goals. there is definitely something going on. as we watch the movement evolve, the causes keep morphing and the demands get more and more extreme. whereas there was initially quite a lot of support for things like reopening schools and greater parent involvement in schools, now more and more as we see those demands start to tranate into things like
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banning particular books or focusing so mh attention on trans kids in particular, public opinion in favor of that movement diminishes. >> this bill that was passed in the house doesn't have a book bain it, but opponents say this is part of conservatives especially using the phrase parental rights to push opposition and even shut out some things that those parents oppose like books. what do you make of that? are these things connected or is there no connection? >> i thought it was really interesting that you heard so many republican leaders get really defensive about precisely that question and that's because they know that for more and more americans, the parents rate because it's getting harder and harder to distinguish from these unpopular book bands. one thing we should really
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remember is that there were a lot of politicians who ran on the parents rights because during the midterms and they did not do well. we sought republicans win when they were up for reelection when they were reaching out to the base. but as far as an issue that galvanized suburban women in particular, the parents rights because was a failure. i think you hear that in these concerns of leaders on capitol hill who are worried that what they thought was going to be this cause the -- that lord independents for suburban women is turning out to be something extreme and unpopular. >> i noticed something that i wasn't looking for but was hard to ignore when reporting this story. the photo on the left is of speaker mccarthy and the supporters of this parents rights bill. on the right, the opponents in the picture i took with them yesterday. there's a clear difference between these groups. on the left, the supporters
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mostly white. on the right, almost entirely people of color. it made me wonder what is the role of race here? is there one? >> absolutely there is several. so many of the earliest iterations of these bills limiting what teachers can teach and kids can learn more focused on race. that picture you just showed is so striking and part of the reason that we are seeing the popularity of the cause drop is precisely because of that. i could point you to one state after another where some kind of restrictive law has been passed and there is a version of the picture on the left that looks exactly like that. why is it always -- why are the kids always white? what is going on? and i think there is a strong
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element of race playing into this that people are definitely picking up on. >> is this issue a fad or will this be here a long time? >> this is not the first time we have seen parents rights emerge as an issue. when it came up in the 90's, one of the reasons it lost support and withered away was precisely what we are seeing now. more people get a clear sense that something that sounds good in the abstract, giving parents more say, too easily translates into banning particular books or limiting what kids in a whole school have access to, the less they like it. >> jennifer berkshire, thank you. health care systems in hospitals across the country are grappling
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with a nationwide shortage of the asthma medication albuterol. who is affected and what's being done about it. >> liquid albuterol is commonly used in emergency departments as a quick relief breathing treatment for several chronic lung diseases such as asthma, copd, covid-19, rsv and pneumonia. it has been on the fda's short supply list since october. last month, acorn pharmaceuticals, the primary u.s. manufacturer of liquid albuterol, filed for bankruptcy and closed operations. we spoke to people who are already feeling the impact. >> i'm the director of pharmacy at children's hospital in florida. this shortage has been significant. obviously working in a pediatric hospital, we use quite a bit. >> i live in lincoln nebraska. i'm a mom of three. they get four treatments a day
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between the two of them. one in the morning and one at night before bed. it's an albuterol sulfate concentration and we just do it through a nebulizer machine. they have special attachments that can attach it to their ventilator circuit to make the ventilator push it into their lungs. >> we have switched almost all of our patients to the more dilute product which is still effective, but on the pharmacy side created some challenges for our patients that require continuous albuterol treatments. >> last month they only gave me a months supply. between the time that i had their last one to the time that they ordered the new one to get into the pharmacy, i had dip into my personal stash to give them their meds. just so they can do the overlap between i don't have any i have
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some. i get it twice a day and we go through it twice as fast as a normal typical family would. >> we arseeing an increase in flu, we are having some covid patients, significant increase in rsv and all of those patients require albuterol. we need additional manufacturers to step up and start adding this to tir portfolio so that we are not reliant on a single source for the medication we need for our patients. >> the fda says they are working closely with manufacturers to address thshortage. an allergist and immunologist in chicago and national spokesperson for the american lung association. think you for joining us. as you just heard, albuterol is used commonly to treat very young children because they can't use those inhalers. are you concerned about how this shortage of liquid albuterol is affecting that age group in particular?
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>> very concerned because we are talking about 25 million asthmatics in the united states. 20 million people with copd. long covid and we just came out of a brutal respiratory viral season where we used albuterol tons. now we are heading into allergic asthma season as well where we are going to see a lot of kids and adults impacted and needing this life-saving drug because it is used to open up the lungs when all these kids and adults aren't able to breathe. this is why it is such an important topic for us. >> we heard that parent to say she is basically rationing her albuterol at home. she's given her kids some of her albuterol. the other experts saying they are having to dilute albuterol. is that what you are advising your patients to do?
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>> at this time unfortunately it is being sent to the hospitals, clinic's and parents at home or anyone who use liquid albuterol is not able to get it. so we are advising if they have any to possibly type -- do some dilutions. but it's not the best actual option. we want someone to relate to step up and help with this albuterol shortage especially as we are heading into spring allergy season. tons of asthmatics are triggered by allergies at th time. we are going to end up using a lot of the actual reserve that we have for liquid albuterol and this is very concerning as we are already in shortage. >> are there alternatives especially for the younger children who need to use liquid albuterol with a nebulizer? >> currently have solutions.
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the problem is the companies haven't produced them in mass quantities and it's hard for actual insurance to cover it and for parents to be able to afford it. that's the problem we are currently running into. >> besides the very young and the elderly who are not able to use albuterol inhalers, it sounds like people that are particularly economically vulnerable are at risk. >> that is the population i'm concerned with especially because they were the hardest hit communities. by covid-19. >> what do you see as the solution? >> i hope the fda will encourage pharmaceuticals to really pitch in. covid-19 has taught us that we
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have to take care of each other and i'm hoping pharmaceuticals will step up to help with this albuterol shortage so that we don't have to outsource to other countries for help to meet the needs of all these asthmatics and every child and adult with a respiratory illness who currently needs this medication as a life-saving treatment. >> from what i understand, there is only one u.s. manufacturer of albuterol right now in operation for a very common drug. dr. juanita mora, thanks for joining the newshour. >> it is my pleasure. people can learn more at lung.org. >> to delve further into the latest and former president trump's legal woes, the debate
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over parents influence in schools in the future of tiktok in the u.s., we turn to the analysis of new york times columnist david brooks and jonathan capehart, associate editor for the washington post. i want to start with you and pick up releases report left off. this whole issue of parental rights has come to mean so much. i want to start with some definitions. let's talk about this debate and where it is right now and what that phrase parental rights means to you. how do you look at this issue. >> when i hear parental rights, i think what happened to the pta? why all of a sudden is this an issue? i think it's an issue given who they are targeting because they need a foil. the far right needs a foil. that's not to say parents don't have concerns about what their kids are learning in classrooms. it just seems like from governor
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ron desantis in florida to governor huckabee in arkansas to the republican-led house of representatives, it seems like they have a problem specifically with trans kids. what i have a problem with is that the party of life, the party of respect for family and individual freedom has no problem putting a target on the backs of trans kids and their families. when i hear parental rights, i think parental rights for whom? >> what do you think? >> there's a lot of crazy stuff going on in schools, book banning, not teaching black history. i want to bracket that aside and say that is outrageous. there is a core problem here. during covid, a lot of parents got a look at what their kids were doing because the classroom turned into the living room and they didn't like a lot of what they saw. a public school enrollment is down by $1.4 million. 60 percent of parents say they want more control over the kids learning.
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it used to be democrats had a solid advantage in who do you trust in schools. that advantage is gone. most parents are fine with school, most hate it when politics gets put in the school, but there is a sense there is something they want more control over. that's the legit part of this. the core problem here in reference to this bill is parents and teachers have to be in cooperation and there has to be trust. i understand the cost, but if a school is keeping important things about kids secret from the parents, that's going to destroy trust. >> can i get to the other issues you want to bracket out? they are bracketed in. they are under the umbrella of this issue. >> you have to go case-by-case. there is a lot of clearly wedge issue stuff going on here, but also a lot of parents who legitimately think the values of
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my school are different from my values, i just want some representation here. and they don't feel they are getting that. it's a bunch of issues all at once. >> this is all happening against the backdrop of a number of republican state legislatures nationwide proposing and pushing through bills that do center on transgender youth. this is a map from the human rights campaign. they now estimate of all the transgender kids across the country, more than half of them now live in a state where they have either already lost access to or could lose access to gender affirng care. it's over 50% now. that's a striking number first of all when you think of the sheer volume of children who are impacted by that. i'm wondering why you think this particular issue resonates so deeply right now. >> because it makes people feel
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uncomfortable. let's just be perfectly frank about it. it makes people uncomfortable. but just because you are uncomfortable doesn't mean that you then target what makes you uncomfortable. and by target, you are targeting kids, the families of those kids , making it impossible for them to get health care in their own home state, making it almost impossible for them to go out of state. criminalizing in some cases going out of state to get care. all these kids and their families want our for these trans kids to be able tgo to school like everyone else, learn like everyone else and be left alone like everyone else. if possible. and to be able to learn in a classroom environment where there is neither a target on their back or they are not being denied the full curriculum that they are supposed to be taught. the problem i have with what's been happening in the states is
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that the language is so vague. and that report the person said it doesn't specify names of books and things. it leaves it up to the discretion of whoever the person is complaining. so i think what needs to happen is that people need to, those are really concerned parents not only do they need to keep rising up, they need allies to rise up with them to add to their numbers because there are more people who care about those children and care about their education than the rabble rousing parents who are putting the targets on their backs. >> it's insane that we are having the education debate we are having right now. 41 percent of kids in new york city schools were chronically truant. over the last few years, we spent 20 years trying to lift scores.
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all of those gains were erased in the last year or two. it's going to alter the lives, the gdp of this country for decades. we are in the middle of an education -- i don't want to say catastrophe, but a real set back in the way our kids are doing. we are talking about this transgender stuff. like, what? >> that's what republicans are choosing to talk about. >> exactly. i sometimes think this issue didn't surprise republicans. when youngkin ran for governor, so many parents were coming to him he ended up winning on schools. it is still insane that this is what we are talking about if we ar going to be talking about schools. >> just today, the new york district attorney has been probing the hush money payment made to a woman who said she was having an affair with former president trump just today. he received a death threat in
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the mail to his office that contained a white powder. the das office had a statement issued that it was not dangerous. it does come on the heels of mr. trump and republicans ramping up attacks on alvin bragg. we do not know if this letter and those attacks in any way are connected, but it is a really disturbing development. >> it is a disturbing development. we don't know that there is a direct connection. but let's face it. at 1:08 this morning, the former president of the united states sent out a raging social media post filled with threats of violence and invective against the manhattan d.a.. one of many that he has done all week. we can't draw a direct line between them, but you can't separate them. what the former presidents doing is outrageous. the fact that republicans want to roundly criticize him for
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doing so and condemning what he's doing and standing up for the rule of law is outrageous. and i think we all need to take donald's statements about the manhattan d.a. and other da's who are investigating him seriously. he called for action on january 6 and we saw what happened. cannot afford to let that happen again. >> that truth social post had mr. trump saying there could be potential death and destruction if he was indicted on these charges. today house minority leader hakeem jeffries says he is worried that mr. trump is going to get someone killed. are you worried about that? >> absolutely. i thought i was beyond the ability to be shocked by donald trump, but the only word that led to mind was barbaric. it just is shocking.
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it should also be said that there is reason he's doing it. two or three weeks ago he had a 10 point advantage on ron desantis and now if you look at the average of the polls, it's up to 25 points. some of that is going down, but trump is going up. this whole indictment talk is helping trump politically. >> i want to ask you as well about the tiktok hearing on capitol hill. there were a number of hrings on the house side. that same day focused on china. how did you look at those? >> we are in the middle of a cold war with china. it has started. it has happened over two administrations. official u.s. policy to ban the chips and the technology used to make the chips that could go into a phone, a car, a toaster or a missile or a drone or ai
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technology. we are now really trying to crack down on not the chinese military but the chinese economy because there is really no difference between these things. that is a very stark thing. so if you are wondering where we in a cold war? we are now behaving like we are against china and i think we are with the chinese and it tends to hit technology most. green energy, that's the battlefield in this cold war. who controls the technology. >> do you see it the same way? >> when david puts it like that, yes. how could i argue. also because of what we have seen, what china has done on the diplomatic front. the deal that china brokered with saudi arabia and iran, huge deal. i'm old enough to remember when the united states use to seek deals like that. now it's the chinese. >> always good to see you both.
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thank you so much. >> this week marks 20 years since the u.s. invasion of iraq and many are still piecing together what happened in those days and the years that followed. newshour digital senior editor spoke about ruptured domesticity, a project that collects the memories and artifacts of iraqis during the war and how they held onto the concept of home. >> you headed up a multipart project archiving the memories of the work for iraqis who were living inside and outside of the country during that time. can you talk to us about why you decided to pursue this project and what came of it?
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>> something i really wanted to understand is what was happening across the country when baghdad was getting bombarded during the 2003 invasion. i had no idea. we were in baghdad, but i didn't know what was going on elsewhere. so the archive idea came because i really wanted the world to see this. i wanted it to be the collective voice of iraqis. >> war is traumatic for evybody involved. when you have years of war, you end up with generational trauma. i wonder how that has impacted the way that iraqis interacts with the country but also their memory or their understanding of what it means to be iraqi. >> through the conversations i have had, they kept on coming back to this thing of we never
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documented what was going on to us at the time. we don't have records, especially during the 2003 invasion when mobile phones and cameras weren't readily available to people. so there was this thing of trauma that lingers, trauma that is carried with you. and it resurfaces in very different ways. it sometimes resurfaces in ptsd, which we have en across the world happening with people engaged in wars in iraq and elsewhere, but also in collective creative outlet of that, where you see a burst of culture or belongings and tendency to want to make change happen. >> as an iraqi who has lived outside of the country as well, what does it mean to you to be iraqi? >> it changes.
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i kind of remember when i first came out of iraq, when people used to ask me the question. my answer was very different to what it is right now. i find it in the connections to the beautiful music, to the wonderful food that we have to the language that is spoken from the gut with passion. to the iraqi humor that is retrieved and found kind of emerges in your face and the darkest of times. i see myself an iraqi in the center of all of that. so it is a tapestry. i kind of feel that this is always going to be in the making. it's never going to have an end
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to its making. and i love that about it. but there is certainly a yearning for a home that's always going to be there and never going to fade for me. >> that was part of the conversation. you can watch the full version and see more online at pbs.org/newshour. creating art and raising awareness about consumerism at the same time. cat weiser visited a husband and wife team in rural indiana to see how they have pivoted their lives and livelihood to focus on this passion. it's part of our arts and culture series. >> down a quiet country road in indiana, you will come across a farm that doesn't look like others in the area. a different kind of product is cultivated here, or.
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-- art. the colorful home studio is known as the art form. the married couple have turned their farm into an artistic oasis where they create and display their work, clocks, sculptures, jewelry and more made out of fnd objects they started collecting about 30 years ago. >> we both love going to flea markets and finding cool stuff. >> vintage stuff. >> one time i said, we have to stop buying this stuff or start doing something with it all. >> paul who has a background in engineering and lisa began making functional pieces like lamps which they started selling at art shows in the mid-1990's. soon the part-time hobby became a full-time job.
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today, paul and lisa create new life for old objects in their workshop on the farm, where anything can become our. -- art. this is a work in progress. >> if i am at the thrift store and i see this sitting on the shelf, i'm like, that's a skirt. we have a lot of old coffee tends and stuff. look how perfectly that fits. >> things got to fit or they get wobbly. you want to make art so that it lasts. i don't want to make art that is just going to be a throw away. >> preventing things that's going to be thrown away is a big focus of their work. >> to see the amount of poor quality useless stuff being peddled to people, it has a very short shelf life and then it's just thrown away. it's going into a landfill.
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maybe instead of going to target and buying a new clock, you buy one that i made out of recycled items. >> paul and lisa take their clocks to art fairs around the country, where artists are selected through a competitive application process. art shows have provided a significant portion of their annual sales, but since the pandemic they have been focusing more on commissions like a recent one that involved a cello. >> is it difficult to make a living this way? >> if you are not interested in a steady paycheck, it's ok. because you never know. people will ask sometimes, do you make a living at this? we make a life. it's the whole package. >> it does feel like our whole
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life, our arts and garden and how we live is all the same thing. the art is not separated from the way we live. >> how big is your property? >> we have five acres total. >> they took me on a tour of their property including the 160-year-old barn. >> her name is agnes. >> and no one else is driving and in 1977. >> i have learned to put cheap beers in my fridge to give to all my artist friends who asked me for a cold beer. >> many of the artists they have met at shows over the years i have become friends whose art is displayed along with their own throughout the restored 1860's farmhouse. >> this is the sculpture piece from her friend who did the mugs we are using. this is an artist from
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indianapolis. she created this. it's me and paul and the little banner. we were over the moon. we didn't know she was doing this. >> you love this piece. >> paul and lisa are trying to spread awareness about consumerism and waste in their community by hosting school groups and art classes that focus on reuse materials. >> i like the fact that they use found objects and make them live again. >> sandy beaveis a regular at the art form and stopped by on a recent evening to checkut some of lisa's new jewelry. >> the blue in t background is actually building material and this is recycled license plate. >> that's what i like about lisa's art work. i want something that means something to me and her artwork does.
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>> paul and lisa are spending long hours creating more art and gearing up for a busy spring and summer on the farm. >> love that line, the difference between making a living and making a life. be sure to tune into washington week right here on pbs for more analysis of former president trump's mounting legal challenges, and watch pbs news weekends with john yang tomorrow for a look at the barriers stopping people from getting basic medical care. that is the newshour for tonight. on behalf of the entire newshour team, thank you for joining us and have a great weekend. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by.
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