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narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. announcer: and now, "bbc news". ♪ >> hello. this is the context. >> a time when things seemed fragile and were easily broken, that is when hope and hard work are needed the most. that is when we must make our theme repair. christian: he shares my ambition to see institutions here back up and running. >> this is time for us all to be together and focused on the next
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25 years. for me, the message is clear of hope, opportunity and help we can improve people's lives. >> the solution will not be found in speeches but in the hard craft and hard yards we need to undertake to get this right. christian: hello. we will be live in eland tonight as joe biden makes that journey south to his ancestral home. we will find out what came of his visit to belfast and what the unionists made of his speech. also, more of our conversation between james clayton and elon musk. plenty to dissect in that, including musk's confession that he only went there with the takeover of twitter because a judge would have forced them to do it. and who controls the
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distribution of the abortion pill in america? the u.s. court -- government is in court to appeal a decision in texas to suspend the license. but let's start with president biden and a speech he gave parking the 25th anniversary of the friday agreement in whiche held out a promise of huge u.s. invement if and when stable government returns. he was careful not to warn or threaten the dup as he called for a return to power-sharing. >> i hope it is not too presumptuous of me to say that i believe the democratic institutions established in the agreement remain critical to the future of northern ireland. that is a decision for you to make, but it seems to me they are related. an effective, devolve government that reflects the people of northern ireland and is accountable to them, the a government that works toind ways to solve problems together
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is going to draw even greater opportunity. i hope the assembly and the executive will soon be restored. that is a judgment for you to make but i hope it happens. christian: ahead of his speech at ulster university, the president held a meeting with rishi sunak and separately with leaders of the five parties in belfast. unionists have accused him of supporting we public and is in. he was described as the most partisan president that had ever been dealing with northern ireland. the current dup leader said while he did not think the president had shifted the needle, he did welcome the change in tone. >> he recognized the need to bring balance. we got today from the president something that was more balanced and more reflective of the relationship between northern ireland as part of the u.k. and the u.s. >> you do not necessarily agree
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withheir assessment of joe biden? >> there are things he has said that are unhelpful. i think he knows that and i welcome the fact that he sought to refrain some of those debts reframe some of those previous remarks, recognizing the strong connection between the united kingdom, including northern ireland and the u.s. christian: let me show you some pictures of dundalk, where the president is shortly expected to appear at a pub. there have been some cusmers patiently waiting for his arrival. you can see the irish and american flags hanging there and a sign saying, welcome home, joe biden. he has been paying a visit to some of his ancestral home. today, he has been touring st. john's castle. and tomorrow we expect him to make a speech to the parliament in dublin.
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we will be dipping into dundalk when the president appears, but let's speak first to the editor of the newsletter, a unionist cleaning -- leaning newspaper in belfast. what was the sum total of this visit? how will be writing him up for tomorrow? >> you did say that we are unionists leaning paper. we will be writing it out from that perspective. it was interesting with the president xi. -- what the president said. is irish-american and once dismissed the bbc. that is of concern to our readers. there was concern he would start schooling unionists. he did not do that. he started by talking about his english -- and, joking about that and having some military ancestor.
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he talked about the ulster scots. even that phrase is something that for unionists in northern ireland is not well-known. it is essentially a way of saying protestants from northern ireland who settled in north america. he talked about the great history that they showed. even when it came the point where he sort of scolding the dup about power-sharing, he introduced the line is up to you. he did not cite the dup. he was not trying to embarrass anybody. it would be good to see stormont backer, but i cannot decide. it was a long way from scolding about brexit and saying that the good friday agreement had to be protected when unionists would say that they were pushing on the friday agreement. it was a very diplomatic speech. christian: what about the economic windfall he has been
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touting? his special envoy to northern ireland is working in the background to supercharge the northern ireland economy. any announcements on that? >> i have been so busy putting together tomrow's paper and am not sure if there have been any announcements on it, but he emphasized that and talk about how in delaware, that is a small state that has some record numbers of companies registered in it. he was talking up the windfall and the financial prospects for northern ireland. that is all part of the pressure for all the diplomacy to which i referred, that is all part of the pressure that theyre planning on unionists to go back in and say that the windsor framework has alleviated the border between ireland ireland and the rest of the u.k. christian: does the business community share any of that optimism?
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doing leaders share that enthusiasm that the highlighted does find itself in a unique positionostcards that? >> i would divide business people who are unionists and the community generally. many unions have been concerned that the business community generally has not spoken up for internal and external trade with the rest of the u.k. and that business leaders were too quick to agree that the most important matter of concern was that the irish land border had to be, had to remain open. but those who are unionists and still put it northern ireland are, we want to emphasize the ea-west end financial gains commit the they from american companies. anything like that is welcome.
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it makes northern ireland more prosperous, but we do not want to lose sight of the fact that east-west is so important to this province. chstn: as we watch these pictures of this pub, there is no doubt where the president's heart is. chris made the point today that he was only in northn ireland for 15 hours and spent half of that in his hotel. as people in northern ireland watch this, he smiles, reunions with distant relatives, does the juxtaposition of the two visits, does that smack a bit? >> probably. to is that warmth to his southern irish connection. one of the things about the northern irish protestant connection to north america -- in our earliest paper from the
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1700s, used to be first going on to america. it is like the english influence in america and the german. it was big and early. most peoplef that stock just consider themselves american. it is the irish catholic migration from the 1800s where they are more likely to consider themselves irish-american. there is a realism about the fact that that is a strong identity and that part of biting's mix -- president biden's mixed heritage, it is the irish one he plays up. some will be sore about that. most will probably be realistic. christian: tha you for those comments. let's differ into the pub in -- depth into the public in -- dip into the pot in dundalk.coming from cork >>, i have to say it packs a
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punch. but it is a county rich in tradition, history. the county of legends and your forefathers. i know you have visited here before, but today, we are honored to welcome you as president of t united states. we thank you for your support of ireland and particulay for your profiling of our country at every international forum you attacked. type that you attend. i know this personally. your home county, like other border counties, has been shaped by its proximity to the border. in the darkest ds, it was a place of refuor those fleeing violence, even though it itself was touched by violence.
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that is why the transformation brought about by the good friday agreement is some tangible and real here in this location. today, thousands seamlessly cross the border each day. it is a shared space, a place that links rather than device. peace is not abstraction here. it has become part ofhe dating of people's lives. few would have thought this possible 25 yearsgo. the good friday agreement enables us to make the most of people to people connections across this ireland, as well as between ireland and the united kingdom. it's three strands of relationships reflect the depth and interwoven nature of these engagements. together, we all have so much potential. we want to explore that potential to its fullest. that is why my government
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launched a shared island initiatives that we can make the most of these opportunities. much has been achieved since 1998, but the remains are far ashore to reach. we must ensure that all immunities and all traditions fully enjoy the benefits of peace and have the opportunity to live on a truly reconciling island. as we take forward that work, we know that we do so with the full support of the united states. the engagement of the united states in the peace process as the good friday agreement, and unwavering bipartisan commitment that you above all personified over the last 25 years, including the creation and sustainability of the international fund for ireland.
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that support continues to open horizons for us. as we build on thembitions of the good friday agreement to sustain a dynamic and prosperous peace, the united states will remain an essential and fundamental partner. it is a privilege to welcome you here, mr. president, to celebrate all that has been achieved and to look forward to the shining possibilities of our future. welcome home, mr. president. >> [applause] christian: nick martin, former -- foreign minister of ireland, greeting president biden and introducing him to the clientele in this pub in dundalk. >> i said last time i was here in a sense, i know why my ancestors and many left during the famine, but when you are
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here commit you wonder why anyone would ever leave. it is good to be back. i want to thank another prime minister, the guy behind me. i met him when he was younger. we put him up in quarters in the white house. but he had covid. >> [laughter] >> the fact that i am here with my sister and my son -- stand up, guys. i am proud of you. >> [applause] >> i wish our mom, catherine eugenia finnegan biden, were here today, she would be so proud. this place helps such a special place in her heart -- held such a special place in her heart. and we think about her all the time.
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coming here feels like coming home. every time i have come, the welcome, the people on the streets are so gracious. earlier today, i had a chance to visit another special place, the castle. it is high in the hills and was likely one of the last glimpses that the finnegan family sought when they set sail for america. they set sail with purge and hope and crossed -- with kerch and hope and crossed the sea. through generations, even finnegans brought our home to scranton, pennsylvania, where i was raised. and my mother lived. as a matter of ft, i am going to be heading to the other end of the island to my grandmother -- my grandmother's maiden name
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was blewit. we brought over the mayor of scrantonecause they already sister city. my grandfather finnegan would also say, he is irish. you all think i'm kidding, but i am not. he had never been to ireland, but he raised his family with a fierce pride in our irish ancestry, a pride that spoke to the history and values that unite us. that is important to remember. the values i heard from my mother she used to say, joe, you are defined your courage. christian: president biden recounting family member these -- family memories in dundalk.we will bringing some of the
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highlights over the next hour or so. but we will move on. by the last count, around 100 pages of briefing materials from the pentagon has been found floating around the internet. they range from briefing slides dabbing out ukrainian dilatory positions to assessment -- military positions in ukraine. assessments of support for ukraine. some materials were smart top secret. the secrets were sitting on the open web on a discord server for a month. nobody noticed. u.s. officials are in the darkness to help much more is out there. edward snowden stole over one million documents. it seems reasonable to presume that whoever did post them has market mike turner -- has more of them. mike turner joins us from washington. ank you for being with us.
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it is extraordinary that these documents were just sitting there on the web and for such a long period of time. do you think was responsible? >> the investigations are ongoing. there is this time not a lot known as to how these documents were leaked, who did it, but even though these documents were in a forum where they were photographed and then posted, which would lend itself to think someone had actual possession o these documents, it could still be a hack. but we will g to the bottom of this. two important things -- one we need to close the and two, we need to get an understandi of the damage that has occurred. we can do an assessment of what changes we need to make and how we help ukrain christian: how do you shut it down? >> getting to the root and getting access to these
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documents. when you look at these documents coming can tell from their origins who has and what level to access. as we make changes in policy, restricting additional access can make certain additional changes are not leaked, but at the same time, as you have indicated, there is a great deal of concern as to what else is out there. this may not be all the documents that have been taken. we have to be prepared for what else might be there. christian: i am sure in your role as chairman of t intel committee that you are speaking to allies. how are you reassuring them? >> everybody has at one point or another experienced a leak. certainlrussia has had that. we have tried to assist making public what russian policy is,
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what russian plans might be in order to counter them and deter russia from some of their actions. but as we talked to those who depend upon us being able to control our secrets, their understanding that we are -- ey are understanding that we are working digently to close this leak and respond to the rest associated with these document -- risk associated with these documents being out there, changing policies so that these remain a static picture and not exude presentation of what will happen in ukraine. christian: you would be aware that after snowden and some things president trump revealed while in office, is there a cavalier attitude toward classified information in america? to many people, there is too much access to these documents and trouble little regard -- too
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little regard to how it is stored. >> i would not go that far. you have seen with president biden and with the vice president pence that where it there has been a change in who occupies what office, documents have been lost and is stored. -- mis stored. because the united states works so closely with allies, we are in the process of both gathering but also disseminating intelligence. the whole aspect of the importance of intelligence is making sure that it gets in the hands of those who translate it into to do lists. that includes our allies. christian: the u. justice department has appealed a decision in texas to suspend the license of an abortion drug. attorneys general of nearly half the states in america are represented in a filing that
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warns that the decision will be devastating for millions of women, including those in states where abortion remains legal. th decision is expected by new tomorrow. the doj says the driver should remain on the market until the supreme court was in. it is the most common method of terminating a pregnancy in the u.s., accounting for about half of all abortions. lizzie fletcher represents texas's seven. can you explain what this drug is and how long it has been on the market? >> this is a drug that is widely used in determining pregnancies in the early stages. it was authorized and put into use more than 20 years ago through the fda's rigorous process. this decision from a court in texas from a single judge once again calls into question
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whether people want access to abortion care. christian: just to be clear, the medicationrtion is the most common method during the first trimester, which means there are fewer abortions taking place later in pregnancy, correct? >> that is exactly right. ristian: who has challenged the license? at is at stake in the appeal? >> what is at stake is something that my home state has unfortunately beent the epicenter of, which is efforts to take away our freedom to make decisions about our bodies, families, and our futures and to deprive us of access to the information and care that enabs us to do that. a group came together and challenged this fda approval of this medication that has been used use more than 20 years, has
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been shown to the fda process and more than two decades of use to be safe and effective. this is a group of people who are opposed to abortion generally. this is far outside the process. there is a process to remove the approval of drugs this not how you it. -- you do it. this is unprecedented. i joined 239 of my colleagues from congress in filing an amicus brief yesterday to the court of appeals. there is no less at stake then our ability to access safe and abortion -- safe and effective abortion care, but also our system of drug approval. christian: can you tell me when you think you will get a decision? >> hopefully, we will find out soon. normally, this is a long
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process, but the judge's ruling is for seven days. we hope the fifth circuit will rule quickly. christian: huge implications from that decision in the united states. we are going to talk about elon musk on the other side of the break. stay with us. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪
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