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know bdo. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. announcer: and now, "bbc news". >> i am christian fraser this is the context. today the justice department arrested jack douglas in connection with an investigation with alleged unauthorized removal, retention and dissemination of unclassified -- unclassified events material. >> we did not realize the sheer immense nature of these leaks until a bit later.
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>> hello, welcome to the program. in the last human see fbi agent's have confirmed they have arrested -- few minutes, the fbi agent confirmed they arrested the leader of the suspected classified documents. the oil and gas industry, are they doing enough to meet government set targets on me thing -methane and oil spills? they are asked airmen thing -- experiencing a rapidly escalating crisis for type one and type two combined. the european space agency canceling its rocket today, it will be rescheduled or taken -- for take off tomorrow. we will tell you all about that. the breaking news from the last few minutes, the u.s. investigators have arrested the
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source of the leak classified documents. they report the man their holding is a 21-year-old member of the intelligence wing of the massachutts air national guard. it is alleged he saw -- oversaw a private online group , called thuggish shaker central. the washington post came -- carried an interview with a member of the online chat group where the post first appeared. the teenager identified as a source og, he knew about secrets the government was withholding from ordinary people. he spent hours writing up classified documents to share with his companions and the discord server that he controlled. they say they posted debate and transcripts from his job at the
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military base. >> they became close during the pandemic, when we were all lockdown together. we would stream our houses and mess around and dance and have fun. we did not realize, the sheer, the immense nature of these leaks until a bit later. >> i spoke to og about two days ago before he gave his final goodbye to us. he signed off saying he did not want to be associated with any of us. to bring anything back to him. >> a short time ago the u.s. attorney general merit island -- merrick garland gave us this update on the arrest. >> today the justice from arrested jack douglas in connection with an investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, transmission of classified national defense information. he is an employee of theunited states air force national guard. fbi agent's took him into
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custody earlier this afternoon. without incident. you will have an initial appearance at the u.s. district court for the disher to massachusetts. i would think the fbi, just apartment prosecutors and the department of defense for diligent work on this case. this investigation is ongoing. we will share more information at the appropriate time. thank you everyone. >> earlier this evening the pentagon called this week of -- leak of classified information a deliberate terminal act. >> -- criminal act. >> they take the issue of this unauthorized disclosure very seriously. we continue to work along -- around the clock to better understand the scope, scale, impact of these leaks. >> reminder that all this information sat on the server for months, a grab bag of sensitive information. how the u.s. penetrated the russian ministry of defense.
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clandestine deals between israel and south korea. previously unknown information about satellite surveillance, a pending arms deal, on and on. directly is the -- joining the is a director great strategy at the quincy is a dude. -- institu. does it surprise you that a 21-year-old in the intelligence wing of the national guard has access to this vast information? >> yes it does. a lot of this was very very highly classified information. i think the question of how he got access to it will be foremost in the mind of investigators. >> we are told, usually, intelligence is compartmentalized. he surely would not need to know, if you was sitting on cape cod, a base at cape cod. if south korea was sending
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missiles via poland to ukraine. i cannot understand why that information would be within his domain. >> right. one of the questions i'm sure investigators will be looking into is whether he was accessing information illegitimately. that he found a way of hacking into things he did not have access to. or, he was sent information by other people. that he should not have had access to. >> when you read the washington post story today, i do not know about you, when i read it it seemed to me that this was a closed group, invitation only. where he was the leader were seen as a leader. it did not seem as he was disseminating information for political purposes. more it was a case of one upmanship. at a time where a lot o people are lonely because of the pandemic you saw this as a way to gain credit among the group.
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>> i think that is exactly the picture that is emerging from this washington post reporting and other reporting here. this is not a case of a young man who is looking to betray his country. although he was clearly doing things that were illegal and very harmful to american national security. he was not doing this on the half of some foreign intelligence organization. he did not appear to have a political motive. this seemed to be a situation where he was looking to impress his peers. young men, teenagers, that found all of this quite impressive. >> that said, you look at the background he was clearly a disgruntled person. suspicions of intelligence agencies government overreach, what sort of venting what their have been doneor someone with access to this information? >> this is the sort of thing
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investigators try to look into in the background investigations prior to granting security clearances. those sorts of investigations, cannot account for everything. they are inherently imperfect. you can guess some things -- miss somethings. what happens in these sorts of closed online groups can be a difficult thk for investigators to see abreast of. you cannot undertake, 20 for seven -- 24/7/365 days a year investigation on what is going on in people's private lives. >> there are a lot of autos that do not know what a discord service is but the children do, do you think there is a blind spot in intelligence agencies
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getting access to these groups? >> a difficult question to answer, because, one obvious response to that is, yes there is a blind spot and there should be. you do not actually want to live in a society where the u.s. government is monitoring what everyone is doing onne any given time. associated with what they're reading or what they are posting. if you are to do that sort of thing, yeah, you can identify these sorts of problems. perhaps prevent them. does any of us want to live in a society where our government is doing that you private citizens or people in the military? that is a difficult thing to answer. >> how would you characterize this? for me as you explained it does not seem to be political. it is not an edward snowden. it is not of that ilk. it is more like bradley manning,
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this low-grade tech wiz within the army sitting on a lonely base in iraq. it was this data that was her entertainment. it see to be that ilk. it has happened again. what sort of reforms does the intelligence agencies have to put in place? >> i am not sure that is an easy question to answer at this point they are still very early in investigative state i do -- state. i'd do think the accused individual in this case is facing a very dire future. i believe that long or cement is going to be quite harsh and how it deals with him. in the hope that this will have a deterrent effect on other people that might, at some future point contemplate this thing. >> then we redo the fbi
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statement that just dropped in the last few seconds confirming they have arrested 21-year-old jack douglas in his residence in acid is -- massachusetts. the fbi's continued to conduct law enforcement activity athe residence. since late last week the fbi aggressively pursued leads and this is a commitment to pursuing and holding accountable those that betray the country's trust and put our national security at risk. a final thought on that. are you satisfied that they worked quickly enough here? is member of the group the washington post spoke to, had not been contacted by federal agencies. john kirby, spokesman of the national security agency at the white house saying to us last week we should not be putting these stories into the media. almost seen from what he is saying, if they did not
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acknowledge what was out there, it would magically go away. i wonder if thedministration in your view has handled it properly. >> it was not clear at this point if the washington post investigation was doing that was done in parallel with a lawsuit -- with the other invesgation. that remains to be seen. in the last few days, the government suspect and arrest him. at this point i think it is premature to say the biden administration is not acted with sufficient seriousness or speed in addressing this problem. >> just one final point on this. the amendments that were made to some of these documents, what do you think went on there? >> at this point it looks like it was nothing more than every immature editing.
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done by individuals rather than governments. in a way that was obvious. it does not have the hallmark of foreign intelligence organization, really putting an effort into highly fickle to detect disinformation. these look like amateurs that were editing these documents. >> very grateful for your time this evening and your expertise, thank you. >> around the world and across the u.k., this is bbc news. this take a look at some of the other stories tonight. metropolitan police officers have been found guilty of gross misconduct and it connection with an whatsapp group, including - six officers have been left or dismissed, to are still serving, and cannot be sacked. a body has been found on a beach in east sussex, following strong wind.
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the surgeon from -- operation was -- the search operation was launched yesterday. it is believe they are swept out to sea during the stormy weather. she gave the world the miniskirt and was at the forefront of the swinging 60's fashion revolution died at the age of 93. opening the first shop on chelsea's king road on 93 to five. many of -- 1955. many of those fashions are now returning. are the energy companies do enough to meet government sets targets? bbc published new data today showing oil is routinely spilled u.k. waters adding thousands of tons of pollution endangering
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marine life. these figures suggest 40% of monitored releases breach what the government thinks is safe. between 2017 and 2022, the 164 thousand barrels of oil were discharged. equivalent to 532 tankers. separate to that we learned offshore operators are wasting enough gas to power more than 702,000 homes a year through flaring and venting and 1000 homes -- 100,000 from undetected leaks. the u.k. is well off track of his commitment to cut methane in addition -- emissions. estimates are we will only get halfway to the 30% cut we agreed to by 2030. he is a representative of offshore energies u.k., you think the industry is taking this seriously enough?
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>> the oil and gas industry takes the environmental -- very seriously indeed. we are among the most heavily regulated industries in the u.k. and in the world. we take it very seriously, we are hard -- working on hard to minimize it as much as possible and continue to do that in the future as well. >> 532 tankers of oil slipping to the sea, it is not if -- not as if the industry is not making a profit. why are they notetter at it? >> it is out of context. when oil is produced and oil is brought to surface from underground a lot of water comes with it naturally from the rocks. it is pushed out to see, there are how much oil can be cleaned in that water. companies work very hard to make sure this as little as possible. these are discharges that can be made to see in a safe way without impacts to the
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environment. we are talking about a hundred six 4000 barrels released -- 164 thousand barrels released in the last five years, to put in the context 3 billion barrels of oil and gas have been produced in that time from the u.k.. very tiny amounts. >> it threatens wildlife and close to protected marine environments. i want to show you satellite pictures. uplift work with another ngo called sky truth, they analyzes settler pictures of u.k. waters. what you see, they are not the magnitude of the deepwater horizon disaster. some of these are 4-5 miles long. a lot of people out there, probably think they do not know about this. unless groups like this are doing the work, is there enough transparency? >> we are very transparent,
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where the most heavily regulated industry in the u.k.. our operations are strictly relic -- regular to buy government bodies. arehe glol leader when it comes to regulation in the global -- well and gas industry and u.k.. many national regionsdopt the standards of the u.k.. we are very open and transparent. what i would say is those are not the known for the operations and the u.k.. i would also say, that is not a column of oilitting between the seabed and the sea surface. it is a very small sheen on top of the water. also. as i've said these discharges can be done in a controlled way without any negative impact in the environment. done in ways that are within permitted levels. >> aside about gas and nothing. it is -- nothing. methane.
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we made big commands to cut it by 2030, clearly there is not enough progress made in the gas industry. >> when you say is the most potent gas, you are right that we have a real focus on this across the whole economy. in the oil and gas sectors. about 10% of the emissions of reduction of oil and gas are methane and have to drive them down because of the potency. since 2018, the last four to five years, the emissions hav come down by more than a third and we have commitments of having them at least half that way by the end of this decade. we put in a methane reduction action plan as a sector to make sure we get there. this is the first oil a gas producing country to put targets like this in reduction plans like this in place.
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we are really driving down the flaring that takes place offshore. the amount of venting and gas that takes place offshore. yes, it is because of environmental issues, it also can get that gas to the market ashore of energy security for the u.k.. it is totally right we have real focus on this and we are making real progress on this. >> bringing forward the ban on flaring and venting with that make companies move quickly? >> when we come as a sector to phasing out flaring of gas offshore by 2030. implications to bring that forward actually might see a premate end to a lot of oil and gas production that takes place in u.k.. at the moment we produce enough to just meet at half of our needs. we have to import the rest. if we see a trend to that oil
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and gas production will have negative consequences for energy security f the country. imports of the oil and gas from the under -- comment two to three times the environmental cost. yet to think of as a wider context when it comes to energy security economy. also our missions programs. >> a final one to you, as i mentioned, there is enormous profits at the moment. extra ordinary profits. record profits. is there enough encouragement of the industry to put climate change first? on the evidee of these two stories today we are still a long way behind. >> the oil and gas committee is fully committed to emissions reductions. we have commitments in place of the u.k. government to drive down emissions. they are down 20% and will be down 50% by 2030 and 90% 2040
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and met zero 2050 -- net 0 in 2050. we have the first industrial sector in the u.k. to commit the net zero. we are on board with this, and our members in the oil and gas sector are also driving forward offshore wind production and producing net zero solutions, for carbon capture storage doubly clue -- >> thank you very much indeed for that, we were trying to show you some of satellite images of those oil slicks, i would point you to the story on the bbc abbot and on the bbc website, made of a tech problem, its worth looking at because they are quite revealing. waiting list for hospital treatment in england did you hide, one in 10 people are waiting over 12 hours to be seen a kueng figures today --
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according to nhs figures today. there have been cancellations that put more pressure on waiting list. he has this report. >> on the third day of the strike there has been more talk about talks. there have been calls for the conciliation service to be brought in, the bma says yes, the government says that is possible. only if the union drops its's 35% pay claim. union member state is not about money it is about keeping doctors in the nhs. >> this issue is causing a workforce crisis. without addressing it country will not have a health care system. >> friends leaving medicine because they see hope elsewhere. why not leave if you see better conditions and better pay? workforce and thats rely really difficult. >>ow t siket
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ncy re not as bad so far as some may have feared. >> our trust, and our staff are managing this week very well. they have a clear priority on keeping emergency class -- pathways in place. patients of those pathways in place. it has come at the expense of routine care. he is one of those who lost out because of the strike. he has cancer. doctors were due to review a scan to see if it affected his liver. that process was put on hold. >> any canceled patient tell you the worst part of it is waiting for results. it is the wait between having a scan and sing what the result is. i think -- weeing -- seeing what the result is. >> they need to get this. outcome i'm sure there are others in more serious situations. >> data shows the intense
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pressure on the system in before the doctor's strikes. in february the total waiting for planned treatment was 7.22 million. a record high, the record -- the number for waiting 18 months fell again. 71.5% of patients were treated within the four hour target, little bit less than the target in wales but ahead of other u.k. nations. for the first time, those waiting more than 12 hours after arriving has been published. more tn 10%. >> the impact of the strike will not be known until next week. wh data on canceled operations and appointments are published. ministers say talks are possible, but only if another strike is not announced. >> going to a short break, but i want to show you some pictures we are just getting in of the dramatic arrest of jack, the man who leaked these classified documents.
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these are the fbi at his house in massachusetts. we have heard from the attorney general and the last hour that he will appear in court in boston tomorrow. the fbi said they are continuing to conduct authorized activity at the residence since late last week. they have aggressively pursued investigative leagues -- leads to hold accountable those who narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you.
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