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amna: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. geoff: and i'm geoff bennett. on the newshour tonight. moments before trial, fox news settles a legal case with dominion voting systems over the network's lies about the 2020 election. amna: questions abound in two separate shootings where a homeowner opened fire on a young person who mistakenly approached their house. geoff: and. cases of so-called long covid keep many americans from going back to work. >> my body is broken. on some days, i feel like a cracker that somebody can put in their hands and just crumble because that is how my body feels. ♪ >> major funding for the pbs
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>> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. geoff: welcome to the newshour. the defamation trial against fox news concluded before it even started. dominion voting systems had alleged the right-wing network knowingly broadcast lies that its voting machines were used to steal the 2020 presidential election. amna: in a settlement announced
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by dominion's lawyers today, fox agreed to pay $787 million, roughly half the amount dominion had been seeking. dominion's lawyers called the deal a ringing endorsement for truth and democracy. >> the truth matters. lies have consequences. over two years ago, a torrent of lies swept dominion and election officials across america into an alternative universe of conspiracy theories causing grievous harm to dominion and the country. geoff: in a statement, fox news said, we acknowledge the court's rulings finding certain claims about dominion to be false. this settlement reflects fox's continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards. david folkenflik is npr's media correspondent and is outside the courthouse in delaware.
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thank you for being with us. dominion executives and lawyers sidestepped questions about what, if any admission of guilt is included in the settlement beyond the initial statement i just read. do you have any clarity on that? >> i think we do have clarity about what fox's willing to admit and you just read it aloud. it is willing to admit in the passive voice that false claims were made and it wanted the nation to move on from the controversies engendered by these false claims. but essentially the payment, the announcement of the size of the payment is the apology. that is what fox's willing to give. that is with the murdochs are willing to pay to make -- to be able to sidestep themselves the question of any apology and also
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to be able to avert rupert murdoch and others having to testify in other court and for more embarrassing testimony or evidence to come forward about how fox operated in that crucial period during the 2020 elections. geoff: it means they avoid a messy and embarrassing trial. one can imagine why they would want to settle the case. why was dominion inclined to settle? >> you can note it is $12.5 million less then $800 million which would be the halfway mark to the damages they sought in the case. clocks say we settled for less than half, but it is an astronomical figure. more than fox and the murdoch's have ever paid for any single settlement, far more. it is also an opportunity to avoid being tied up in court for years not only with this trial,
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because they had amassed so much evidence, but also that this would have gone into appeals and that could have taken a lot of years even if dominion prevailed upon appeal and apellate courts often reduce the damages paid. i want to reiterate, i think the size of the settlement, nearly $800 million, because it was made public, becomes the apology itself. geoff: fox corp. recorded total quarterly revenues of $4.6 billion. is $787.5 million enough? will that make enough of a dent for them to change the way they do business? >> i think it is enough to do the last specific thing, to stop
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sowing misinformation and falsehood and lies about the 2020 race. fox backed off from doing that. i think it is an open question and i'm skeptical that fox will do business extremely differently. did may not broadcast explicitly false claims, but i think this -- the tenor of what it does, stoking cultural grievances and really ignoring truths will likely continue to be adopted because of what you just cited. the billions of dollars a year generates in revenues and profits. it is the vast majority of the prophets for fox corp. and it is the most important part of the murdoch's' vast global fool -- media enterprise. this is not pocket change, even for somebody named murdoch.
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it is notable, it is important. but it is not enough to make them say, we are not going to do business this way. they will avoid explicitly false claims, but embrace the tenor of what they say, which is what people are looking for anyway. geoff: david, thanks for that reporting and thanks for being with us. >> you bet. ♪ stephanie: i'm stephanie sy with newshour west, here are the latest headlines. heavy gunfire echoed in sudan's capital after a 24-hour cease-fire was supposed to begin. the military and a paramilitary rebel force had agreed to a temporary truce, but fighting raged on. in khartoum, civilians lined up outside bakeries -- despite the danger -- desperate for fresh food after four days of combat. >> the situation is very hard, it was sudden, there's no electricity, no water. it is the fourth day in a row
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without water. people weren't prepared. as you can see here in the supermarket, most goods aren't available. stephanie: late tonight in khartoum, the u.s. embassy advised americans in sudan to shelter in place. in ukraine, two warring leaders have made competing visits to their troops as they gear up for expected spring offensives. the kremlin today released video of russian president vladimir putin visiting a russian-held part of the southern kherson region on monday. and ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy met with soldiers in the donetsk province. that eastern area has seen fierce fighting all winter. a russian judge today ordered wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich to stay in jail pending his prosecution on espionage charges. the 31-year-old appeared in public for the first time in weeks -- standing in a glass cage in moscow city court. afterward, his lawyers said he is staying upbeat.
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>> he is in the mood. he is in a fighting spirit. he is ready to prove the right to free journalism. he is ready to defend himself. today at the court session, he made a corresponding statement that he was ready to prove that he was innocent of the act incriminating him. stephanie: gershkovich was arrested in late march and accused of trying to get secret information about a russian arms factory. back in this country -- the supreme court heard arguments on whether the postal service violated a mail carrier's religious rights by forcing him to work sundays. he eventually quit and is now asking the court to reconsider a 1977 ruling. it allowed employers to deny some religious accomodations if they impose undue hardship on the business. a shooter killed four people at a house in maine today. three others were later shot and wounded on a busy highway. authorities said the shootings were connected. this evening, police charged 34-year-old joseph eaton with
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four counts of murder. eaton is currently in custody. the irs says it's finally cleared a huge backlog that built up when the pandemic hit. the agency says new federal funding helped it work through millions of unprocessed returns from previous years. that pronouncement comes on this deadline day for filing federal income tax returns. southwest airlines faced a new disruption today after data connection problems briefly grounded its flights nationwide. the grounding lasted 17 minutes, delaying more than 1800 flights. planes sat on the tarmac and customers sought answers at airports. after a record breaking amount of snow this winter, utah's governor declared a state of emergency today. warming temperatures have melted the snowpack, leading to significant runoff and flooding. the emergency declaration will increase available funding for flood related disasters and is in effect for 30 days.
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buffalo bills player damar hamlin says he's been fully cleared to return to pro football just four months after his heart stopped during a game. hamlin had just made a tackle when he collapsed in january. emergency crews worked to save him in front of a national tv audience. today, he reflected on it all. >> the wild moment is every day, just being able to wake up and just take deep breaths and live a peaceful life. to have a family, to have people around me that love me and care about me, and for those people to still have me in their lives. you know, they almost lost me, i died on tv in front of the whole world, you know what i mean? stephanie: hamlin -- who is 25 -- says he's started attending voluntary off-season workouts -- with no medical restrictions still to come on the newshour. government officials come under scrutiny for failing to keep migrant children out of unsafe jobs. more on the efforts to free wall street journal reporter evan gershkovich from russia.
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and we speak with former israeli prime minister naftali bennett about the recent violent clashes in his country. ♪ >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. amna: two stories of homeowners shooting a teen and killin wrong address have stunned manya around the country. both suspects in these cases are now charged, but that's hardly easing any of the anger and the grief. our communities correspondent gabrielle hayes begins with this report. [chanting] >> hundreds of students walked out of staley high school in sor fellow classmate, ralph yarl. authorities say an 84-year-old white man shot the black teenager thursday night after yarl mistakenly went to his home to pick up his younger brothers.
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the homeowner -- andrew lester -- has now been charged with two felony counts, including first degree assault. he was taken into custody today. yarl was shot in the head and the arm. the 16-year-old was not carrying a weapon and did not cross the man's threshold. yarl's aunt -- faith spoonmore -- described the terrifying incident. >> he looked my nephew in the eye and told him, don't ever come back here again, while he shot him in the head. my nephew fell to the ground. and he shot him again. >> yesterday, clay county prosecutors confirmed there was a racial component to the shooting, but did not elaborate. yarl is now recovering at home after being hospitalized. lee merritt is the yarl family's attorney. >> his prognosis long term is guarded based on the significance of this kind of traumatic brain injury. however, how well he is doing is in fact miraculous. and we are excited about the progress that he has made.
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>> meanwhile in upstate new york. outrage is growing in a separate homeowner shooting. 65-year-old kevin monahan has been charged in the death of a white woman looking for a friends house. 20-year-old kaylin gillis was riding with friends saturday when they made a wrong turn on monahans property. washington county sheriff jeff murphy said she was shot while they were trying to turn the car around in the driveway. >> once they determined they were at the wrong house, the subject came out on his porch, for whatever reason and fired two shots. one of which struck the vehicle that kaylin was in. >> the shooting took place in a rural town with limited cell phone service, so gillis' friends had to drive to a neighboring town to call 911. after initially resisting, monahan was taken into custody and booked for second-degree murder. as anger mounts in upstate new york, back in kansas city, ralph
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yarl's supporters are holding a rally to condemn his shooting and cheer on his recovery. for the pbs newshour, i'm gabrielle hays. amna: activists are calling for hate crimes charges to be filed in ralph yarl's shooting. meanwhile late today, the suspect in the case was released on bond. joining me now is kansas city mayor quinton lucas. mayor lucas, welcome to the newshour and thank you for joining us. i know you have been in touch with ralph jarl -- yarl's family. what can you tell us about how they are doing and how ralph is doing? >> so far, ralph has had a miraculous recovery. to have been shot in the head and shot a second time by this defendant and be out of the hospital by now is absolutely miraculous. i know that at least physically there holding up. mentally, it will be an ongoing challenge for this young man who had seemingly everything going
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for him and was struck by this unimaginable incident. >> what about people in your community? the idea that a teenager could be shot for showing up at the wrong house is a horrifying notion for parents, especially parents of black children. how is this resonating in kansas city? amna: terribly. it is terrifying for everyone. this is one of those things that for me in public service, those of y'all in journalism, that you worry. i was looking at my door at my home and i was thinking, how could somebody think it is right to shoot out front through their door with two locked doors and the fact that this defendant said he was scared of this kid and it is what leads to the conversation about race, which is very much a part of this. it leads to the broader concern that guns and guns everywhere is literally killing our country.
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the question we ought to ask as we expand stand your ground laws and possession laws for anyone and no red flags for those who shouldn't have guns, when do we stop? how many ralphs get shot? how many people are armed? that is my concern. amna: what else can you tell us about andrew lester, who was charged in the shooting? we know he was taken into custody and then released on bond. there are a lot of questions about why he wasn't taken into custody sooner. what is your understanding? >> i'm learning more as everyone else does too. he turned himself in. something that i know concerns a lot of people in the world is that often when you don't shoot somebody may view don't have the convenience of showing up at the jail whenever you want, but be that as it may that is what happened today. what we have learned is that he
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has a particularly well-heeled family, he was able to put $20,000 on to be released. he might be considered to be a risk, at least to black people in the community, is out on the streets of kansas city again. i don't think the age is an excuse. if fear is seeing a black boy who was taller than him, then he's afraid of about 75,000 people in my city. i find that to be a concern. as we hopefully go through this prosecution and get a conviction, i hope it does lay a basis for if not expanded hate crime charges, than a very clear conviction. amna: the prosecutor said that ralph did not cross the threshold into the home. you mentioned the stand law. do you believe that could be used as a defense? >> i think they will use several different laws in missouri, one of which is the castle doctrine, that you can protect your home,
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your castle, that if you have some apprehension, you can shoot somebody usually who comes within it. any other principles of self-defense are likely. the concern is that because we have expanded so many of these stand your ground laws, you can go outside your home, outside your car, as we saw with trayvon martin tragedy, you can pick a fight with someone and if you think you are going to lose, you can still kill them -- it is out of control. i expect everyone of these defenses to be raised. that is why you are seeing people in my community saying we have to do more, even after charges are filed, addressing racism and guns in our country. amna: in the minute or so we have left, we are talking about a 16-year-old kid, whose parents said he loved video games and music and excelled in school. his life has forever been changed, the lives of his twin younger brothers.
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you said you want to see justice in this case. what does justice look like to you? >> it is very hard, i guess, because justice for the family is a conviction here. i see that they have a gofundme going. i hope it is compensation, but broader, justice is allowing black people in our country to feel like they are not in some ways criminals with everything they do. driving while black. now knocking on the door, ringing the doorbell while black. justice is for a lot of people than more than just family. amna: that is the mayor of kansas city, missouri, joining us. thank you for your time. >> thank you.
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geoff: today is tax day, but right now we're waiting to see how long the country has before it could default on its own bills -- more than $31 trillion worth. lisa desjardins has the latest on how lawmakers plan on avoiding a global financial crisis of their own making. it is great to see you. where does house speaker kevin mccarthy's proposal stand? lisa: this is the week where house republicans have to figure out do they have something they agree on themselves? we were outside the closed door meeting when speaker mccarthy unveiled his proposal. here is what we know so far. he says he's willing to increase the debt limit until 2024. that could change. in exchange, he says he would like the federal government spending to be cut to 20 levels in a future limit on growth to
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1% a year for the next 10 years and more work requirements for medicaid and snap, some people may know that by the name food stamps. those are ideas that are on the table and those are many ideas that senate democrats won't agree to probably, but that might not be enough for house republicans. coming out of that meeting, several of the holdouts that made it difficult for speaker mccarthy to get his job said they are not happy with the proposal. geoff: the republicans opposing this plan, what do they want? lisa: let's go through that. there are a lot of ideas out there. everyone knows this is a do or don't do moment. there is a thought leader in all of this. chip roy. he was important in the speakership fight. here is what he said on the glenn beck show. >> speaker mccarthy has a tough job. it is hard.
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we had a good conversation this morning. we laid out an outline that i think is a good framework. there are still some things we need to address. >> he wants the following things -- to entirely get rid of the inflation reduction act, but especially they are pushing for getting rid of the climate change credits. other ideas, rolling back some of the money going to the irs. essentially, they think this needs to be much more conservative and probably speaker mccarthy will have to get there to get his conference on board. geoff: where are we with the risk of a real debt crisis? lisa: let's look at the math for the house. you have 222 republicans. there are 218 votes needed to get anything through that chamber. here's the issue. there are 16 republicans who have never voted for a debt
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limit at all and they need just about every republican on board. it is not clear they have 218 now. i think this will come to a head next week. if they can't pass anything, we will be in a quandary. some democrats say that is an advantage. it is hard to predict what is going to happen and that in itself is a problem. geoff: let's talk briefly about another matter, the absence of senator dianne feinstein. lisa: senate leadership asked the senate to temporarily allow her to step down from her position on the senate judiciary committee. the fact that she cannot show up for votes because she is out with complications from shingles is freezing many judicial nominees. senator schumer asked to allow her to temporarily be replaced and there was an objection. senator schumer will have to
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reconsider what he does next. in general, the reporting is that republicans are not going to allow her to temporarily step down. the options for democrats is do they put pressure on dianne feinstein to resign? i'm still told she has no plans to retire early, but it leaves them in a really difficult situation. we don't know when she is going to return. here is what senator schumer said -- >> i spoke to senator feinstein a few days ago and she and i are very hopeful she will return very soon. let me first say again i spoke to senator feinstein just last friday. she and i are very hopeful she will return soon. lisa: but we don't know if she will return soon. in the meantime, the clock is ticking on these critical months forgetting judicial nominees in. geoff: more to come, thanks so much. lisa: you're welcome.
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♪ amna: three years after the start of the pandemic, some 16 million americans have long covid, meaning their symptoms continue well after the initial infection. an estimated 4 million people say long covid has significantly reduced their ability to carry out day-to-day activities. for many of them, that includes their jobs. economics correspondent paul solman has our story, which was produced by diane lincoln estes. >>akes things harder. >> six-year-old carly anna remembers her mom before long covid. >> we went on some walks with me. >> and she can't do that now? >> no. >> is it sad? >> yes. >> carly and his brother dan says their mom is mostly out of
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action these days. >> she is bedridden a lot more. >> how much? >> a good bit of the day every day. >> my activity is sitting here talking to you. that is a lot for me. paul: the single mom was a paralegal and she hasn't been able to work in three years. during this interview, it is a struggle. >> i have to prepare by resting days in advance and then i had to take breaks getting ready because i get shortness of breath while getting dressed. i also get extremely exhausted getting dressed. paul: i cover economics not medicine, but long covid may be a major factor in one of the most bedeviling trends in the economy, the lack of workers. >> people who get long covid are more likely to be unemployed. paul: so says this northeastern
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university professor. >> they are less likely to be employed. >> we do have a big long covid problem. paul: there are many others like meredith who are no longer working. >> i would bet somewhere around 500,000, that would not include people who have reduced their hours. talking about just people out of the workforce due to long covid. paul: the afflicted don't appear to be coming back anytime soon due to a slew of symptoms. >> i will get pain down my arm, elbows, hands, tachycardia, extreme exhaustion. >> the pain in my foot is awful. paul: this social worker from the state of massachusetts. >> i had been a social worker for 25 years. paul: but covid put him in the hospital in march of 2020 and he has never been the same. >> my stamina, up and down the
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stairs is a struggle. i have had to use a cane for years now. paul: another symptom recurred during our interview. brain fog. >> i can't even tell you how long we have been talking right now. this is where it gets harder to focus. >> i feel every nerve in my body now that i didn't used to feel before i had covid and long covid. paul: this teacher in baltimore. >> my body is broken. on some days, i feel like a cracker that somebody can put in their hands and just crumble because that is in my body feels. paul: smith first discussed her condition two years ago on the newshour. >> it felt like a ghost or a monster had started to inhabit my body. now my memory has gotten progressively worse. paul: interacting with you, you seem a sharp as anybody i ever talk to. >> long covid is a very sneaky,
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invisible condition that people don't recognize unless there are visible symptoms. so today, i feel ok, but when you leave here and when this conversation ends, i will be on my couch the next five to six hours, because this conversation itself is exhausting. paul: post exertional malaise. meredith had it for a week after our interview, as her son documented. philip is heartbroken that he can no longer do the adoption work that he loved. >> when you can match a child to a family, it feels wonderful to be able to say, now you are going to move on as a family. paul: he asked for accommodations to return part-time. >> they set i either come back full-time or full capacity of
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what i was doing before or tender my resignation. paul: and that is what you had to do? >> that is what i ultimately had to do. >> when i tried to go back to work, i physically got sick. paul: she tried to return to work. >> the lymph nodes, the fever, the achiness. that is what happen when i overexert myself. >> i loved my job. i will pat myself on the back to say i was an extraordinary teacher. paul: her realization she could no longer teach really hurts. >> you know, as a black girl growing up in southeast d.c., in the hood in a poor community, people would tell me because i was like the nerdy girl, you should teach, you should teach. when i became a teacher, it was like the puzzle pieces of my life started to fit together.
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that was my true calling. paul: but not anymore. in the financial toll is immense. >> 80% of my income is government assistance based. so i receive social security. i'm on section eight. paul: housing. >> and i receive food stamps from the government. paul: simply applying the benefits -- for benefits has been hard for hearst. >> i tried to apply for social security disability on my own. due to my disability, i was unable to complete the application. paul: how do you survive? >> sadly maxing out my credit cards. i drained my 401(k) at this point. i'm going to be applying again for social security disability in hopes of having some income. and assistance from family. paul: and long covid it's taking its toll on the economy as well.
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total estimate, in the hundreds of billions. >> it includes lost wages for people not working. it includes increased health care costs. and then there is lost quality of life, which is a concept in health economics where there is a cost to people suffering. paul: suffering philip knows only too well. >> i have gone through times of a haven't left my room for days, depression, thoughts of suicide, rage. paul: smith has been there. >> i wasn't teaching. i couldn't stand up. i could hardly move my body. i was nauseous all the time. i couldn't poop. i could hardlypee. i wanted to die. >> this tree grows in the country. paul: finally, there is the cost to others, like the kids of meredith hearst. >> we would go to the mountains.
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and take vacations and things like that. and i'm not able to do that anymore. they are memories of a life i used to live. i'm not able to anymore. paul: memories or daughter shares. >> we also used to do a bunch of picnics. paul: no more? >> no. paul: painful even for the reporter and perhaps you too. for the pbs newshour, paul solman. ♪ amna: his lawyer said today that evan gershkovich is in a mood to fight after his appearance in a moscow court room where he faced farcical espionage charges lodged by russian authorities. the u.s. says the wall street journal reporter is wrongfully detained.
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and the president and his aides have made his release a priority. so have his colleagues, one of whom joins me now -- almar latour, the publisher of the wall street journal and ceo of dow jones, which owns the paper. welcome and thank you for joining us. today was the first time evan was seen in public since march 30. a russian court kept him under arrest. they rejected dow jones' offer of $600,000 to keep him under house arrest. >> it was disturbing to see him in a glass cage just for doing his job, just for reporting. it is disturbing for the family, for all of his colleagues. it should be disturbing to people at home to see a reporter put in that situation merely for
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doing his job. we were expecting this outcome, but nonetheless were disappointed. we have come to expect from a talker see's that there is disregard for free press and that was on wide display today. amna: have you been in touch with evan or his family? how are they doing? >> we have a very robust team in place that is very multifaceted that is in touch with evan indirectly. we have retained lawyers that are working under difficult circumstances there. our team is in touch with his family. for any family, this is devastating to see one's loved one treated like this. amna: evan does stand accused of espionage. the conviction carries up to 20
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years in prison. virtually all espionage trials in russia and then conviction. will evan only be freed through diplomatic channels? >> our focus is on his release. that is our sole focus. we are working closely with the administration and state department. we will achieve his release by any means possible, any means at our disposal. the legal process we suspect will play out, but we are focused on working any channel to make sure that evan is released. amna: based on what you know so far, is this a weeks long or months long or years long effort ahead? >> obviously, we want this to end as quickly as possible. it is important for evan and his family and his colleague's, but also for a free press.
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the world is watching how the u.s. and western democracies respond to this kind of affront to free press. therefore it is even more important to get evan out. the precedent is the report is accused of espionage -- the last time it happened to a u.s. reporter was during the cold war. obviously, autocracies have a bad track record of treating journalists in these cases, so we are prepared to do what it takes for as long as it takes, but we have our eye and hopes on getting him home as quickly as possible. amna: russia has long not been a safe place for journalists. we should note that evan was accredited with the foreign ministry. would you be advising news
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organizations to pull their reporters? >> every news organization has to make their own judgment. we asked some of our staff to return. we have extricated some from russia. bottom line is that it has become significantly more difficult to report from russia in any form. it is more dangerous if an accredited reporter can be picked up. those are unsafe circumstances. it is a loss for the free world, for the u.s. and policymakers. it is a tremendous loss for the people in russia stand what is actually happening in their society with evan focused his reporting on that.
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there's a lot of disinformation and misinformation that goes into that. it's a loss all around. amna: that's the publisher of the wall street journal and the ceo of dow jones joining us tonight. >> thank you. ♪ amna: worthen 250,000 migrant children have entered the u.s. alone in the last two years. stephanie sy dives into a new investigation on the growing problem of child labor among these migrant children. stephanie: we first reported in february that a new york times investigation exposed how thousands of migrant kids are working in jobs across the country in violation of child labor laws. the times latest report reveals that the biden administration was made aware of the risks facing these children as the department of health and human
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services relaxed vetting procedures to move unaccompanied minors out of overwhelmed shelters quickly. hannah dreier spent a year investigating all this for the new york times and joins me now. hannah, thanks for being with the newshour. so you spoke to people in this latest piece who raised red flags that this was happening to migrant children. who did they raise those concerns to and why weren't they heard? >> so, like you say, i spent a year looking into migrant child labor in this country, and we found kids working in all 50 states. these were sometimes 12, 13-year-olds. and i started asking myself how can it be that the biden administration didn't know about this when it is so widespread, and we're talking about tens of thousands of children, and it turns out there were people in the administration, some of them in senior roles who were trying to raise this. so the administration was told about people out in the field who are coming across children
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who said that they were being forced to work and then people at the highest levels of the administration people in the , white house were told about clusters of children working in meatpacking factories, working in car plants all around the country. and they were also told that there were these staffers out in the field or in the d.c. headquarters who were trying to send up a warning about this. but somehow this still got these warnings where may be ignored. stephanie: the white house denies it was aware of these reports, but in at least one case you have some evidence that one of the high officials on domestic policy within the administration was aware of these reports, right? >> this is susan rice biden's , top adviser for immigration, pretty much everything that comes up the chain then goes through her team. and, yes, members of that team say that they were hearing these
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reports of something is going wrong here or the department of labor has found children and not just one or two children, but dozens of children working at plants in the midwest were basically all around the country. what the white house has told us is that these were basically puzzle pieces they didn't put together. and when i've gone back and asked the whistleblowers at the agency's well, why didn't they put them together? what the staffers say is they just didn't want to know. stephanie: your report has generated a lot of criticism against the biden administration, hannah especially among republicans in washington here, senator josh hawley at a hearing questioning homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas earlier today. >> one 13-year-old forced to wash hotel sheets in virginia kids running milkshake machine , -- milking machines in vermont
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, delivering meals in new york city, scrubbing dishes late at night, are you proud of this record? >> the horrific exploitation of children is something that we do not condone. you are incorrectly attributing it to our policies. one of the significant policy decisions that we have made is to focus or -- our worksite enforcement investigative efforts, our criminal investigative efforts on unscrupulous employers that exploit individuals because of their vulnerabilities. stephanie: hannah, which policies do you believe are most contributing to the exploitation and harm to these children? >> this crisis is the result of policy failures on multiple levels and part of it has to do with labor enforcement. and the biden administration has said that it is going to get very serious about enforcing child labor laws, not just with manufacturers, but also with the biggest brands profiting from
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the labor of these children. and then on the other side, this is a child welfare and immigration issue. and one thing that people point to in this country is no single agency is really responsible for these children after they're released to sponsors, so they're released and then most of them are really on their own, and that's part of how we have ended up in this situation. stephanie: hannah dreier with the new york times. thank you so much. >> thank you for having me. ♪ amna: there was more violence in israel today. police say a palestinian gunman shot and wounded two israelis in jerusalem. meanwhile, israeli forces conducted another raid in the occupied west bank -- palestinian militants responded by opening fire. at least six palestinians were wounded, according to local health officials. all this comes as the israeli government's proposed judicial
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reforms have stalled. joining me to discuss the situation on the ground and what happens next is naftali bennett. he was israel's prime minister from june of 2021 to june 2022. thank you for being here. >> great being here. amna: those judicial reforms rot israelis into the streets en masse, brought the country to a standstill. prime minister netanyahu has hit pause, but he has not completely pulled off the plan. should he? >> in effect, he has. i cannot openly declare that democracy in israel has prevailed. it's clear it'll take a while to until everyone understands it. but i think what israel got was a great gift for its 75th birthday. democracy will prevail. you are right that explicitly the prime minister has not yet said what i think needs to be
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said witches, we will progress on the reforms only in agreement and we will not unilaterally try and shove it down the other side . amna: this has led to increased tensions with israel and the u.s. president biden said prime minister net and yahoo! can't continued down this path. >> i don't think you will continue to push unilaterally. there are discussions between the coalition and the opposition. i think benjamin netanyahu understands that the only way forward is a big compromise. amna: i would love to ask about americans' views on israel. a recent gallup poll shows democrats are now more sympathetic to palestinian by a 15 point zero reversal just a
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matter seven years ago, sympathy was 30% greater. what do those numbers say? >> we need to do a better job of bringing the beautiful reality, but complex reality of israel to american viewers. we are a democracy, flawed, we are imperfect, but we try to do our very best to thrive and do good for everyone in israel. for the jews and arabs in israel. amna: critics would say, how is this a democracy? everyone have equal rights? >> the palestinians do have access to eat or rights. they elect their own officials and in gaza, there is a full-fledged state, a hamas
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state. we handed over all the land in gaza to the palestinian, pulled out all the jews, while the army, and one to the 67 line. amna: but under occupation in the west bank. palestinians do not have voting rights or access to government. >> they have voting rights for the palestinian authority and access to the government of the palestinian authority. amna: for they do live under military in patient. -- occupation. >> borrowing defending ourselves, the huge giorgio palestinians are governed by the palestinian authority, vote for them, are subject to the rules of law. i do admit that the pa is doing a fairly lousy job in governing and they keep on postponing their elections. amna: i will say critics who watch the mistreatment and the
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unequal treatment to palestinian and israeli citizen, some have written that because israel does not treat all of its citizens equally, that it does not have shared values with the u.s. and some argue washington should become conditioning military and economic aid on specific measures to end military rule over palestinians. >> i think that would be a profound mistake. we do share common values. israel is a full-fledged democracy. we have about 2 million arab citizens that vote the same as i do. arabs enjoy the full rights of any jew enjoys within israel. amna: i'm not asking about arab or israeli citizens. i'm asking about the 5 million palestinian. >> part of them belong to gaza and they have their own failed state and part of them belong to the pa and they have their own failed entity. here is the problem.
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we keep trying to provide them all the freedoms and everything they need. we cannot make them succeed more than they want to. amna: we are speaking at a time of accelerating tensions and increased violence in israel as well. settlement expansions are something you and officials ever ported to as fueling violent. the eviction of palestinian families, the demolition of their homes. would halting settlement expansions bring down the temperature? >> israel does not evict anyone from his home unless they are illegally there and then we evict jews and arabs alike across the board. amna: illegal by whose determination? >> the supreme court of israel. we are a country of rule of law. we have a supreme court, which is respected across the world, and that supreme court tells us
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you have to evict this because it is illegal or you don't need to evict because it is legal. amna: saudi arabia, with whom benjamin netanyahu has said he would like to reach a peace deal, has released statements condemning israeli actions. saudi is calling israel and occupation government again. how can israel improve relations with saudi arabia, with its arab neighbors in general if the settlements continue and if the violence escalate? >> i think the saudis look at the region and they view israel as a potential partner to fend off the real big threat of the region, which is iran. amna: but they have just begun to normalize relations with iran. >> because they sense there is a degree of vacuum in the region and they are hedging. but if they see that israel continues the correct policy that i enacted of fighting iran
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back on its territory as opposed for waiting for it to hit us in our homes, whether in israel or any arab country, i think that will garner more respect and we will be able to make progress with the saudis. amna: former israeli prime minister naftali bennett joining us tonight. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. ♪ geoff: and there is a lot more online at pbs.org/newshour, including a story about why state lawmakers in missouri are pushing to defund public libraries, amid nationwide calls from some conservatives to ban certain books. amna: and join us again here tomorrow night, when we'll speak with representative katherine clark, the second-highest ranking democrat in the house. and that is the newshour for tonight. i'm amna nawaz. geoff: and i'm goeff bennett. have a great evening. >> major funding has been
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