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narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. announcer: and now, "bbc news". >> i am in washingtos is "bbc world news america." getting smart about artificial intelligence. why the founder of genji -- of chatgpt thinks the government needs to play a role in regulating the technology. >> i think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong. we want to be vocal about that. we want to work with the government to prevent that happening. >> the deadline is getting closer. president biden hosts
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congressional leaders to resolve the debt ceiling standoff. >> i will be reporting from the french riviera on the opening night of the film festival where jenny depp is starring in a period drama, hoping to resurrect his career. ♪ >> welcome to "world news america" on pbs and around the globe. how worried should we be about artificial intelligence? that is where lawmakers have been trying to understand today. we are starting our program in washington where the head of the company behind the artificial intelligence tool, chatgpt, told lawmakers that government regulation is crucial. we have seen tech ceos get a congressional grilling before. but that is not what happened here. appearing for. -- before a senate panel, he agreed with lawmakers that ai has the potential to improve
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nearly every aspect of our lives. at that it also carries great risk. . let's take a listen. >> my worst fears are that we cause significant, the, the field, the tech. -- the technology, cause harm to the country. it is why we started the company. it is a big part of why i'm here today and why we have been here in the past and able to spend time with you. i think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong. and we want to be vocal about that. we want to work with the government to prevent that from happening. but we try to be very clear eyed about what the downside case is and the work we have to do to mitigate that. >> who the man in the hot seat today -- who is sam altman the man in the hot seat today? he is an intrapreneur in silicon valley. his startup, chatgpt, has 100 million monthly users. he started open ai in 2015 with elon musk, the owner of twitter.
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but the two went their separate ways. alden has reportedly been described as a start up yoda. and has even been compared to another tech wizard, bill gates. for more on this politic and tech reporter joins me live from new york. what did sam altman lay out today in congress? sam altman, it was his first time testifying before congress. one of the most important subcommittees, the senate judiciary committee. he attended the hearing today after having a dinner with lawmakers calling for regulation and specific pieces of regulation. lawmakers seemed happy to have him there. it was a cordial hearing. i think a lot of the folks on the hill thought this was a productive meeting. >> that dinner you mentioned highlights the fact that they are on the same page. one of the solutions that has been floated is a pause when it comes to research. let's listen to what some -- to what sam altman suggested.
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>> u.s. government might consider a combination of licensing and testing requirements above a threshold of capabilities. there are several other areas i mention in my written testimony where i believe companies like ours can partner with governments, including ensuring the most powerful ai models adhere to a set of safety requirements, facilitating proper -- processes and examining opportunities for global coordination. >> u.s. is so focused on innovation, it is competing with china, won't this sort of thing slow innovators down and give potential bad actors a leg up? reporter: that is what you would expect to hear from the industry. we have heard that time and time again when big tech companies, although silicon valley companies that have testify before congress before. but it was interesting to see sam altman six months after chatgpt 4 was deployed and accessible to you and i making
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this argument before congress, calling for regulation. i think that highlights the potential risks that lawmakers, the industry, and the normal person see with rapid deployment and accessibility in ai. >> when it comes to the lawmakers, there has been concern that they don't necessarily understand tech enough to try to regulate it. is that still the case? >> i think a lot of lawmakers today, senator lindsey graham for one, said they are slow to move. i think that is a fair point, seeing how many years out we are since 2018 and facebook's cambridge analytic scandal. that started the ball rolling on a national data privacy framework. that has still -- we have not seen that pass in the united states. congress does move slope. but i think they are trying to make a point that they have learned their lesson and they are trying to act faster than they have before. >> when they say they learned
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their lesson, are they talking about things like disinformation? i know that is something they talked about in the hearing today. >> i don't think we can go into any tech hearing without hearing the standard narrative that we hear each time. big tech testifies. whether it is misinformation, privacy scandals, child safety, all of these will be touched on in every tech hearing. i think sam altman was no exception. these were touched on on the potential harms and risks if congress were to not act fast enough. >> you are saying congress acting fast enough, do we know how the u.s. compares to other regulators, other countries when it comes to regulation? reporter: the eu has always been the fastest. . we have seen that in privacy, in competition and antitrust. the eu has made significant progress in this industry, regulating it. i think congress is tired of being embarrassed and caught on their back heel, especially with
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gdpr coming out a couple years ago. that was an eu mandated privacy framework. i think the u.s. is kind of tired of the eu stepping on their toes and running the conversation on all of these things. i think lawmakers, even with ktok now, and regulating tiktok, they are ready to do something. what that is, is very unclear. today's hearing was the first in a series of hearings that will be held the summer, going over the other issues you brought up as well. whether that is child safety, and also ip and copyright. this is the beginning of a conversation lawmakers are ready to make progress on. >> just the beginning of a conversation. thank you so much for joining us. reporter: thank you. >> let's move onto another challenge for lawmakers. the clock is ticking and there is still no deal on the debt limit. president biden hosted congressional leaders from both parties at the white house this afternoon. they are trying to hammer out a
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deal before the u.s. is unable to pay all of its ills. janet yellen says this could calm as early as june 1. we are hearing president biden may cut his plan tour asia short after this summit in japan. our correspondent is at the white house. what is the late -- the latest that came out of this meeting? reporter: this second meeting lasted for over one hour. like last week, both sides came out to give their version of events. house republicans came first. kevin mccarthy in the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. the last time they came out, they were really critical of president biden, saying he refused to negotiate. the democrats also were critical of the republicans, saying they would not take default off the table. i put that question to mr. mccarthy. i said, have you taken default off the table? he fights at the question and points to the fact that house republicans have tried to pass a
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bill in which default is off the table, but that went nowhere in the senate due to the democrats controlling it. there were a lot of demands that president biden refused to meet. mr. mccarthy did say neither side wants default spear that is something they have agreed on. he was also asked about how the world is looking at america, and if defaults would happen, if he was worried about the global implications. >> i think america is the number one economy in the world. when we get done with these negotiations, america's economy will be stronger. because we will make the america economy stronger, putting more people out of work, lowering our energy costs, and more importantly, curving are spending. as the world looks around and looks at america, says they were spending too much, they will not be able to say that anymore. thank you all very much. >> we all agreed that default is not an acceptable option and
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must be avoided. we all agreed that over the next few weeks, we have to proceed with the fierce urgency of now in order to make sure we can reach that bipartisan, common sense, common ground agreement. so that we can protect the health and safety and economic well-being of the american people. reporter: something else that kevin mccarthy has repeatedly said is that the republican party is the party that is looking for solutions. is that the way the american people see it? reporter: there are varying poles that basically show or suggest that americans don't know who they would blame if there was a default. one hole suggests a third would blame president biden. they are the party in power. but also, a third say that they would blame the republicans for it. that actually plays nicely into president biden's reelection campaign, in which he has portrayed the republican party as a party of extremists that
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cannot govern. both sides like they will lose a lot if they don't come up with a solution. but it looks like there could be a solution upcoming. president biden is due to go to japan. and he is off to australia and papa new guinea. i did ask the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, and mitch mcconnell, the senate minority leader, if they would put pressure on mr. biden to cut short that trip. they would not answer the question. they would not give any details. they said it was up to the president what he wanted to do in terms of his schedule. mr. biden did release a statement in which he said, he would meet the leaders of the countries he would not be meeting this time at a later date. there are still a few sticking points here, such as how long they should raise the debt ceiling for, what spending cuts they should make, and when they come to an agreement, it will probably take a week for it to get through congress. and of course, as you were
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saying earlier, time is ticking. >> we are likely to hear more about that quite soon. thank you so much for bringing the latest on that. that's look at ukraine now. it's supreme court has dismissed its top judge. he was arrested earlier as part of a corruption inquiry for taking multi-million-dollar bribes allegedly. ukraine is under pressure to tackle corruption, as a requirement for joining the european union. meanwhile, when it comes to th war, ukrainian officials praised their antimissile defense system. overnight, it blocked an intern's barrage of russian rockets over kyiv. they say the system shutdown six advanced russian hypersonic missiles, which president putin has claimed are unstoppable. take a look. this is showing kyiv's air defenses in action. art explosions were heard and three people were injured by the debris. in a tweet, ukraine's defense
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minister said, another unbelievable success for the ukrainian air forces. last night, our sky defenders shot down six russian hypersonic missiles and 12 others. our correspondent has the latest from kyiv. reporter: it was the eighth time this month that kyiv had come under attack. but this attack was different. we heard a number of extremely loud explosions in the capital. at around 3:00 in the morning. we could actually see the work of the air defense systems destroying those missiles over the city. the ukrainian military said it had destroyed all 18 missiles that have been fired by russia, including six hypersonic missiles. this is significant. if confirmed, it shows the ability that ukraine has to destroy one of the most sophisticated weapons in russia's arsenal. this has only been possible because of the patriot and air defense systems that have been provided to ukraine. has been reaction from moscow.
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the defense minister there said they had hit one of those systems, something that is not been confirmed by the authorities. these latest attacks came hours after president zelenskyy finished a tour of european nations. he received a promise that billions of pounds worth of military assistance will be provided to his country. and this includes a package from the u.k., with attack drones and also air defense missiles. as we are seeing here today, these missiles have been vital in protecting towns and cities from these relentless russian airstrikes. >> that was our correspondent in kyiv. let's bring you the latest from pakistan on former prime minister's troubles. over 3000 of his supporters have been arrested in connection with the recent clashes in the province. the local government says those who attacked army installations will be tried under special
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military measures. that prevents them from seeking bail or appealing in a civilian court. reporter: this is what remains of the court commander's just behind me. this was the gate where the protesters came through last tuesday. you can see the level of destruction. bernhardt cars, completely destroyed. this is the most senior military official. the protesters came down through here, through this gate. you may see a few people wandering around. that is because this area has been opened up to the public. you can see this is the swimming pool. through this way, is the core commander's residence. you can see the level of destruction, the smashed glass, broken doors, and completely burned out. what makes this more extraordinary is the fact that these attacks on army buildings is pretty unseen in pakistan's 75 year history. this was all in response to
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imran khan's, former prime minister of pakistan, being arrested last tuesday. he is now out on bail. we are starting to hear more about how the authorities intend to deal with people involved in the protests. the army has now said it intends to use civilian pakistan law, but also the army act and the official secrets act, which would mean civilians would be tried in a military court. is is something that has been seen in pakistan before. when it has, we have often heard from human rights groups who have talked about their concerns of the lack of transparency, lack of justice, concerns about the appeal process, and underlying civilian courts in pakistan as well. we don't know exactly which individuals might be tried under the army act or under the official secrets act. but what we know is there have been thousands of people arrested across pakistan since the protests happened. we know among those who have been arrested are the pta leaders, many senior leaders, imran khan's party.
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many of them remain in police custody. imran khan is of course on bail. but he and his party remain under intense pressure. >> our correspondent. let's look at the days other news. ecuador's national assembly began its impeachment proceedings against the president today. opposition legislators have accused him of embezzling funds from companies. this is the second time the opposition-controlled national assembly has tried to remove the president from office. he claims the allegations are politically motivated, and denies any wrongdoing. european leaders are holding a two day summit in iceland where they have come to discuss a -- discuss illegal immigration and their support of ukraine. volodymyr zelenskyy gave the address with other leaders showing support. rishi sunak pledged to remove illegal immigrants, and called for the european union's support. nine months after he was stabbed
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on stage, salman rushdie warned freedom of expression in the west is under threat. he delivered the video message at the british book awards on monday, where he was awarded the freedom to publish award. the attack at a literary festival in new york left him blind in one eye. it was dubbed the biggest art heist in modern history. today, five members of the criminal gang were jailed for stealing priceless jewels from one of europe's oldest museums in germany. the raid took place at the green vault in dresden in 2019. only some of the collection has been recovered, as jenny hill reports from the city. reporter: in the dead of night, an audacious heist on dresden's treasure trove. masked robbers wielding axis struck at the heart of the
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city's royal jewel collection. it took time to smash the inforced glass of the display cabinet. but eventually, they got away with precious items worth millions and millions of pounds. a glittering hall, 18th-century jewelry,olished gemstones, even a diamond encrusted sword. this was a meticulously planned operation. the gang wrecked the site and prepared their entry point well in advance, using hydraulic cutting machinery to saw through the bars over a window. when they were ready, they set fire to an electrical circuit breaker box not far away that plunged this whole area into darkness, allowing two of the men to slip inside. today, five men, all in their 20's, were convicted of robbery. they are related, members of the notorious criminal family network. one of them is already serving jail time for the theft of a giant golden coin from a berlin
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museum five years ago. >> you know that they are people who steal artwork out of passion for art. but this was really the opposite. they had no idea of what they have ten. reporter: despite an extensive search, summit jewels are still missing. the gangsters did lead police to part of the hall in return for a lighter sentence. curators hope to restore what they can, and put back on public display in the museum which has now overhauled its security. jenny hill, bbc news, dresden. >> some more ai for you. this time, hollywood has some thoughts. tom hanks has said he thinks his career could carry on after his death, thanks to artificial intelligence. the 66-year-old oscar-winner told the adam buxton podcast that the technology could be used to re-create his image. meaning he could appear in movies "from now until kingdom come."
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but hanks acknowledged that ai posed artistic and legal challenges. still, more tom hanks movies, that some pretty good. -- sounds pretty good. parts of asia are seeing temperatures hitting record highs. in china, a heat wave is sweeping across many parts, leaving -- leading to a surge in electricity use as people turn on their air conditioners. authorities have formed hot weather this summer could strain the country' power supplies as it did last year. our correspondent sent this report. reporter: they are known for their freezing winters and boiling hot summers. certainly, this year, the heat has arrived. not only in the city, down to you which is normally mild when it comes to climate, official high-temperature warnings have gone out. scientists have also said people should brace themselves for more
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extreme heat this year. that could mean crops failing in some places, leading to an increase in the price of food. also, the power grid struggling to keep electricity flowing with so many people using air conditioners, which can lead to power shortages. in the long run, the problem is even worse. on the one hand, scientists are blaming this on climate change. on the other, the fight against climate change has taken a backseat in china, as the government gets the economy moving again following three years lost to the covid crisis. all that good work that china had been doing, starting to wean itself off coal-fired power, it is not that it has been totally lost, but certainly that process is slowing down. policymakers will be saying that they hope this is only a temporary state of affairs. that right now, the emphasis has to be on the economy, and later
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on, china can get back to fighting climate change. naturally, every day you waste, not fighting climate chae now, makes it so much harder to do it later on. >> stars are lining up on the red carpet. that includes the actor johnny depp, who was greeted by fans as he arrived ahead of the screening of his movie at the opening of the film festival. the period drama marks the actor's come back to the big screen, following his high-profile court drama with his ex-wife. with that and all of the latest from the festival, we cut -- we go across live to speak to tom brooke. thank you for joining us. that is a great suit you have on. johnny depp's fm, how is it being received? tom: i'm happy to say that for johnny depp, it has been a good night for him because he got a seven minute standing ovation for this period drama. i saw the film earlier today.
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i thought it was quite good. some of the trade industry publicatio, one critic wrote he looked uncomfortable. the important thing is he was passable. he is trying to get his career back on track. things seem to be heading that way. he got an endorsement from dior, and is about to direct a movie starring al pacino. hollywood loves the story of rehabilitating somebody, and that may be beginning to happen here. >> slightly controversial, i can imagine. for our viewers, you are freezing a tiny bit. given the suit, it really does not matter. it looks great on air. i'm wondering what other films you have seen, what the buzz is? >> i think there is actually a feeling of optimism. i'm jimmy fennell, the film industry -- underneath it all, the film industry is badly
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battered. when i say the film industry, i mean cinema going by streaming and the pandemic. and lot of the films being shown here may not find an audience. tomorrow, i will see a documentary that is foreign and a half hours long, made by steve mcqueen. >> gosh, you have me jealous. very happy for you. thank you for joining. thank you for narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪
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that's one small step for man. one giant leap for mankind. william: good evening. i'm william brangham. geoff bennett and amna nawaz are away. on the "newshour" tonight, congressional leaders meet with president biden but make little progress on a deal to raise the debt ceiling and avoid a catastrophic default. then, the head of the company behind chatgpt tells lawmakers regulation is needed to keep rapidly developing artificial intelligence in check. and, a new biography of martin luther king junior finds the civil rights icon was misquoted when asked what he thought of malcolm x. >> we have been telling the story of the relationship between martin luther king and malcolm x for generations, based in part on that quote, the sense that martin luther king had this antagonism, and it just wasn't
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