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station from viewers like you. thank you. william: welcome to the newshour. president biden is cutting short his upcoming trip to asia to continue negotiations to avoid a historic default for the country. pressure is mounting because the government could run out of money to pay its bills by june 1 if an agreement is not struck by then. biden announced the change to his schedule hours after meeting with congressional leaders on raising the debt limit. pres. biden: i'm confident we will continue to make, -- make progress toward avoiding default and fulfilling america's responsibility as a leader on the world stage. . and cutting my trip short. i'm postponing the australia portion of the trip and papa new guinea, in order to be back for the final negotiations with congressional leaders. >> house republicans passed a bill that raised the debt

ceiling, limited our future spending, saved taxpayers money by being able to pull back unspent money and waste and grow our economy by making our economy stronger, and helping lifting people out of poverty into work. those are the parameters we will talk about. william: i was house speaker kevin mccarthy speaking after their meeting with the president. following these negotiations closely are our congressional reporter lisa desjardins and white house reporter laura barron lopez. thank you both so much for being here. laura, first to you, the president cut short his upcoming trip abroad. clearly he seems to be feeling the pressure, that he has got to deliver on these negotiations. laura: that's right, william. the president exited the meeting today saying it was productive, but treasury department has stressed that date is june 1 and it is around the corner. the president does not take the cutting short of this trip lightly. the white house stressed the president wants to reinvigorate

the quad, that is a partnership meeting that was supposed to take place in australia that he will be missing between the united states, australia, japan, and india. he will also be missing what would have been the first ever trip by a president to papa new guinea. and the president wanted to focus there because of trying to pay more attention to the pacific region. william: he is not going to make that part of the trip. what is it, from your reporting, that you understand is the white house's current position. what is on the table in these negotiations? laura: exiting this meeting, the white house have said over and over again that the debt ceiling talks and the budget talks are on parallel tracks, but that they are separate. we can report we know a bit of the details of what is on the -- the negotiating table when it comes to the budget. this is based off what the president and speaker mccarthy have hinted and what sources have told me and lisa. those details, what is on the

table are budget caps for two years, and ease and energy permitting processes, work requirements for certain government aid programs and a return of some 30 billion in unused covid money. in addition to that one change today but a white house official confirmed to me, is that there will be three new white house officials, steve ricchetti, counselor to the president, head of the office of management and budget, as well as luisa terrel, who is the head of legislative affairs for the white house. they are going to be the three new leaders for designate -- leaders designated by the president to speak with speaker mccarthy's team. william: what is your understanding of where the republicans are after this meeting? lisa: republicans walked away happy tonight. because one thing they wanted they got, which was direct talks with the biden white house. no more negotiating with everyone else, including senate leader mcconnell for the rep. cook: and hakeem jeffries from

the house side. this will be between the two major sources of power in the city. has. is something significant about who house republicans will have negotiating on their behalf, louisiana's republican garrett graves. he is someone who was a longtime hill staffer on the energy and commerce committee. he is from baton rouge. that is significant, because one of the top issues for gary graves, one of the things he is an expert at, his permitting reform that laura talked about. we look at what issues will be more important going down the home stretch, permitting reform, that could affect energy, drilling, environment, all of that, to me, is rising very quickly. house republicans say they are unified and they see this as debt ceiling and budget talks together. i think we will still face a stare down. but they are happy that now, from their point of view, the real negotiations are starting. william: five the of the things

laura mentioned that republicans seem to want, is they want to add more work requirements to people who are receiving federal aid or assistance. can you remind us the details of what they want? lisa: let me take you through that. there are several programs that could be affected. here is what house republicans are proposing. first, they would like to take -- like to apply all of this to able-bodied adults who have no dependence at all. stock -- let's talk about snap, food stamps. republicans would like to extend work requirements to an older group, 50 to 55-year-olds. that is -- tan if, a program for families, the poorest of the poor, they want to tighten enforcement, tighten the workforce requirements. then medicaid. this is the most significant. medicaid right now does not have any work requirements. that is the health care program largely for the poor in america.

republicans would like 80 hours of work a month. they would like that to apply to 18 to 55-year-olds. that is something that progressives have an outcry on. republican say they think this would save money, and they like the idea of getting more people to work. william: what is your sense -- lisa says that progressives don't like those changes. what is your understanding of what the white house thinks about adding these requirements to eight? -- aid? laura: progressives have been squeezing the president on this in particular on work requirements. after the president felt pressure from those within his party, he publicly made clear that when it comes to work requirements, he is only open to those that cover cash assistance programs. he is not open to work requirements for snap, food assistance, and he is not open to food requirements for medicaid. this is something that the president has felt a bit of

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regulated. many believe there should be some governmental body to establish local rules and norms. >> i would for my new agency

that licenses and the effort above certain capabilities. >> some lawmakers doubt they have the knowledge to even handle it. >> the challenge is substantial. i am not sure we respond quickly and without -- with enough expertise. >> gary marcus emphasizes the need for an international body. >> we may need something global, international and neutral. >> while he supports regulation, she warned it should not stump the benefits of this new technology. >> it is important that any new law does not stop the end from happening. -- the research from happening.

we do not want to slow it down. >> joining me now was gary marcus, the co-author of rebooting ai. thank you for being here. before we get into the dangers of ai that you laid out for the senate today, you have loved ai since you were a little kid and you see some potential for this technology. make that case for ai first. >> i love it as a cognitive scientist. it is a fascinating intellectual question and there is a potential to revolutionize science. molecular biology has hundreds of thousands of molecules in the body. no one human can understand that. ai might revolutionize medicine, might help us with climate

change. there are a lot of practical implications. it is also cool, it is interesting for anybody who has grown up on science fiction books. i have always been interested and i would like to see it succeed. >> as you mentioned, science fiction has often pointed to potential downsides. he were warning about some of those before the senate. what are the major concerns you have? >> it is actually a long list. i keep thinking about donald rumsfeld quote about unknown unknowns. there are likely regimes where by actors can use these tools. we are going to enter an area where nobody trusts anything. where everybody denies evidence

presented in court and says that is made up 18 is not. we will have checkboxes that encourage people to commit suicide. we also have a potential for a lot of cybercrime. these new tools can be used to manipulate people on the scale we have not seen before. long-term, we do not know if machines get out of control and do things we do not want them to do. we are not prepared for any of this. >> arthur current examples of ai doing any of these things? >> new start released a study showing 40 or 50 different websites generating news automatically. generating news that turned out to be flawed. we have seen at least one case of a suicide vest seems to be

associated with the chat bot. it gave bad advice and did not refer somebody to a professional. >> there is not a great track record when it comes to the government regulating effectively technology, but you were part of a group that was arguing we have to do something to try to marshal the governmental powers to get around thipower. what would you like to see done? >> i argued in my tech talk a few weeks ago that what we need is an international ai agency that brings together science, government and the companies. there was a pretty strong agreement in the room. at least we need to do that on a national level. existing agencies are not up to the task of keeping up with the speed of ai, we need some kind

of central regulation around this. there are a lot of complicated political problems, but there was a strong bipartisan sense in the room we do need to do something along these lines. we could have something like an fda procedure for large models that are deployed. if you have something used by 1000 people, that is fine. but if you want to really something to millions of people, you should do a safety analysis. after the fact there should be additional monitoring. >> we have not really seen that bus far. -- thus far. >> that is right. chat gpt, i do not think anybody

was ready. technology is not that different from a couple of years ago. there is not really a standard now about when is it ok to release say to everybody? >> isn't the horse already out of the barn in this situation? let's say you come up with governance. won't there always still be rogue actors who can use smaller versions of this technology to do the things you are most worried about? >> some of the horses are out of the barn and some are not. we have publicly available models, i believe we can build new technologies where it will be harder to mitigate some of those risks. there are other technologies that have not been built yet,

like self-aware machines, that maybe we do not want to build at all. this is a dress rehearsal for more sophisticated technologies than the ones we have now. it is an opportunity to learn how to close at least some barn doors. >> you and several other people have been raising these warnings of late. do you think as a society we are going to hear these warnings in time? >> i was encouraged by what i heard today in the senate. i saw a lot of bipartisan alignment and a lot of recognition that we had not handled the internet right. i saw a lot of people with intent collection will -- with intellectual honesty. >> gary marcus, host of the podcast, humans versus machines, thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me.

♪ >> the first major biography of dr. martin luther king jr. in roughly 40 years is out. it has new revelations about the civil rights leader and what he dealt with. jeff bennett spoke recently with the author. >> in his new biography, king of life, the author sets out to present martin luther king jr. as a radical thinker with a rebellious side and at the same time, paint a more humane portrait. he joins us now to discuss his research and what else we can expect. thank you for being with us. you have written books about muhammad ali, al capone, some of

the most consequential figures in american life. it makes sense you would write a biography about dr. martin luther king jr.. how did you know there would be anything new to say, to add to the public's understanding of his life? >> i knew there were lots of people around who knew dr. king. i figured my time would be well spent traveling the country the next few years interviewing people who knew him because of time was running short. i realize there were new archival documents that had come online since the last batch of books had been written. it had been a good 30-40 years. i had people who knew him still around and a ton of new archival material. >> how did dr. king's up for an effective leader activism?

upbringing affect his leader activism? >> he was raised in the church where religion was seen as a tool to try to change society. that america had to live up to the words in the bible and the constitution. preachers were really leaving back charge. black preachers had a lot of independence. he learned encourage a black preachers before he went to school. >> there is also the monumental revelation that his famous criticism of malcolm x was just not true. that the interview he gave alex haley, that alex haley misquoted his comments and that change the historical view of the relationship between martin luther king and malcolm x. tell us about that. >> this is one of the most shocking discoveries i made. as a routine, if somebody does a

good interview with my subject, i will look for the transcripts, the notes to see if they left anything out. i went to look for the alex haley interview. the tapes were not available. the transcripts were. they were at duke university group library. i was shocked because the most famous criticism that dr. king had of malcolm x was that his demagogic oratory would bring nothing but grief, that the violence would bring nothing but harm to black people. king never said that. the quotes had been changed dramatically. we had been telling the story of the relationship between martin luther king and malcolm x for generations based in part on

that quote. the sense that martin luther king had this antagonism. what he said was i do not know that i have all the answers. i am interested in what malcolm epps has to say. i do not like his calls for violence. but they seemed to agree on his call for black dignity. >> do you have a sense of why alex haley what fabric rate those comments? -- fabricate those comments? >> maybe he wanted to start controversy, maybe his editors pushed him. we do not know. there was a sense that if we can divide the important black leaders we can keep them from moving the masses for the kind of society they sought. the people who were intent of preserving the white power structure wanted to see them not

getting along. >> you mentioned the fbi surveillance operation against dr. king. there is new information you uncovered in the book. how did that affect his relationship with president johnson at the time, which was a critical moment in the civil rights movement? >> this was one of the other stunning revelations for me. i found the private papers for j edgar hoover, the private memos. they were not in president johnson's regular archives. he asked his secretary to save them. what it showed is hoover was writing directly to the president sometimes three or four times a week with specific details. sometimes really petty details about martin luther king jr. and seems to have done great damage. i think the relationship between martin luther king jr. and president johnson was the greatest single relationship between an activist and

president in our history, but that relationship was slowly undermined and destroyed by j edgar hoover's leaks and lbj's complicity. johnson was encouraging hoover to keep it up. >> how do you approach navigating the challenges of presenting a balanced and comprehensive portrayal of dr. king's life, considering his remarkable achievements and personal flaws? >> i think it's very important to be honest about our heroes. king was deeply flawed. he knew it. he talked about in his sermons. he was not perfect. i want to balance that so readers understand that heroes do not need to be perfect. if we expect perfection, we have a boring story. but we also can't hope to emulate the great men and women in history because none of are so perfect. -- none of us are perfect. i think readers can still appreciate his greatness and all he accomplished and how he inspires us.

>> you think so? i think we have so few heroes that there are so many invested in the mythology. >> part of the problem is people are afraid to step into roles of leadership because they might be criticized for something in the background that might not be so honorable and that discourages people from taking chances. martin luther king did not look to be a leader. he was not asking to become the leader of the civil rights movement. he was thrust into it and had doubts. we have these fbi transcripts of his conversations. his home phone, his office, his friends' phones were being tapped and we could hear him and the phone calls basically pleading for understanding. why is everybody treating me so badly? why are the newspapers criticizing me? even his friends say, you should stick to voting rights in the south, you are making too many

energy -- enemies, costing us support by speaking out on racism and the vietnam war. he's begging them, don't you understand me? this comes from religious beliefs. i'm not a politician. i'm trying to do what god commands us to do. you feel this pain. i think it is important we accept and i think we appreciate him more and respect him more when we accept his flaws. >> the book presents a vivid portrait of dr. king, it is exceptional. thank you so much for being with us. ♪ c geoff: apprenticeships are common in fields like welding, plumbing, and carpentry,but until recently, the federal government did not recognize teaching apprenticeships. the biden administration changed that, and educators are now hoping that new federal funding,

combined with experience from college programs will open the floodgates to a new class of qualified, diverse teachers for america's schools . stephanie sy reports from dallas for our series "rethinking college." >> 22-year-old priscilla cano padron says she has always dreamed of becoming a teacher. >> i've always wanted to help people. i've always wanted to help someone in need. just seeing the relationship i had with my teachers in elementary school and how they have helped me, it's always been my dream. >> she is a first generation mexican-american, just like many of the students in this classroom at audelia creek elementary in dallas, texas. >> i see students that remind me of myself when i was in their third grade classroom. >> now, thanks to a teaching apprenticeship, cano padr.on is on her way to realizing her dr.eam. -- her dream. teacher apprenticeships, at least those registered with the department of labor, or knew.

started last year by the biden administration in response to the pandemic. 17 states have registered apprenticeship programs, with interest spreading. >> after covid and losing so many teachers in our classrooms, we really had to come back to the table to figure out what new teaching models would look like. and we knew we had to do something different. reporter: shareefah nadir-mason administers the program at dallas college, which offers a low-cost bachelors degree combined with paid on-the-job training. that's what pricilia cano padron was doing at audelia creek elementary. >> we don't simply want our students to be first generation graduates. we want them to be first generation and an impoverished. so we want them to walk into the field without the burden of student loan debt. reporter: in nearly all 50 states, certified teachers are required to have at least a bachelors degree, which comes with an average cost of over

$35,000 per year. the student teaching in the last year is typically unpaid. it's a barrier for many would-be teachers. the labor department's approval of registered teacher apprenticeships unlocks federal funding to cover tuition, books, and fees. >> that is a game changer and allows us to have a different conversation about who gets to become a teacher and how they get to become a teacher. reporter: david donaldson is founder of the national center for "grow your own," a nonprofit working to expand the teaching workforce. >> we help states and school districts across the country launch these, grow your own and or registered apprenticeship programs with the ultimate goal of creating pathways for folks to become a teacher for free and get paid to do so. reporter: donaldson challenges the notion that teaching is no longer a desirable profession. he says there are teachers all around us. >> with her parents, tutors, bus drivers, cafeteria workers, paraprofessionals, folks who have a heart for teaching, who

if simply given the opportunity, and usually what this means is removing the financial barrier would make an excellent teacher if given the chance. >> i wanted to be a teacher, i just couldn't. reporter: ramia dawes drove a school bus in dallas for more than a decade. >> i loved driving the school bus. i drove the big old bus with about the kids in the back. reporter: getting a b.a. while feeding and clothing her two kids seemed impossible not so long ago. >> i was working with kids for 11 years, driving the school bus. reporter: and that whole time you were thinking, i wouldn't mind being a teacher. >> yeah, i just didn't have the resources to do so. reporter: the dallas college apprenticeship program allowed her to continue her higher education. >> it says carrying nine bags of marbles for a graft. reporter: she made roughly $30,000 as a teacher apprentice in the richardson independent school district last year. >> i'm working, i'm getting a paycheck every, you know, two weeks, and i'm going to school.

i've always wanted to be able to still provide for my family, but also do something that i really had a passion for. reporter: high minority, high poverty regions like richardson isd have been hit harder by the national teacher shortage. tabitha branum is the district superintendent. >> if you would have told me ten years ago that we would be a place in education where we start a year with anywhere between 50 and 100 vacancies, i would not have believed you. but our surrounding districts, we are all faced with having to look at how we staff differently because the shortage israel. reporter: the shortage is a key reason why branum decided to partner with dallas college. the apprentices help support the full-time teachers, and also fill vital roles as substitutes. >> it's an extra set of hands in the classroom. and then add to it. we've talked about the teacher shortage. let's talk about the substitute shortage. we have worked really hard to message to our educators, take

care of yourself. if you're sick, stay home. so the fact that these apprentices are now substitutes for us one day a week, it's the relief of those teachers in that building who know that i might be off this week, but that apprentice is going to be in my classroom. they can really take the day off and not worry. reporter: through the dallas college program, apprentices spend significantly more time working in classrooms than they would in a traditional program. far better preparation for an aspiring educator, says shareefah nadir-mason. >> we have a lot of smart people that graduate in education but haven't had the opportunity to practice enough. and so we built a program that is strictly built around practice. reporter: the teacher apprentices are assigned to experienced mentors in the classroom, building their skills and confidence. >> when i first came, i was like, i don't really know how to teach math. and i'm really scared. i'm learning from people that are doing it in the classroom. they know how to handle class -- classroom management.

they know how to teach. and i'm able to look at it and model it. >> you have 42 little eyes looking at you. and with the help of ms. gasper and all my other my team members, they helped me overcome that shyness, that fear that i had of teaching up there and -- what do you guys see? reporter: "grow your own"'s david donaldson says the apprenticeships are the first step toward his ultimate vision, a free quality education for every teacher in america. >> imagine a world with no teacher vacancies. that is a really exciting thing to think about. every kid having not only the teacher they need but deserve. reporter: a teacher, one might say like pricila cano padron. she graduated this month, and has already accepted an offer to teach 4th grade reading at a local elementary school. for the pbs newshour, i am stephanie sy, in dallas.

♪ geoff: best known as a talk show host in the bright and shining face of of bravo tv, andy cohen is opening up in a new book about his latest adventure, life as the father of two kids. amna nawazas that conversation. anna: before he oversaw a reality tv empire, andy cohen grew up in st louis, and worked as a producer at cbs news. later landing as a programming executive at bravo tv where he helped launch the popular "real housewives" franchise. >> i don't have an issue with you. i never had an issue with you. amna: in its 17 ars on the air, the brand stretched to more than 10 cities, reaching millions of fans. cohen first stepped in front of the camera in 2009, hosting the late-night talk "watch what happens live." known for its celebrity guests, boozy moments and spilling

secrets. >> what is the hardest drug? amna: his profile has only grown -- >> that just seems like an odd thing to say. amna: hosting the network's reunion specials, launching his own radio channel on sirius xm and writing a series of best-selling books. his latest "the daddy diaries: the year i grew up," chronicles his day-to-day life, and celebrity run-ins, in the year he welcomed daughter lucy to his family, joining his son ben. we recently sat down to talk about family, work, and what made him want to write another book. >>. -- >> i love writing. it's my fifth book. it's my third installment of the andy cohen diaries series, which was inspired by andy warhol's diaries, which i absolutely loved. which are very name droppy. they're very celebrity heavy and they are very much new york stories. and this is all that with the overlay of having two kids as a single dad. amna: anyone who follows you online has seen your beautiful

family. but tell us tell us about your kids. >> my kids are great. they are four and one. the four-year-old loves being an older brother. i was writing the book during, everyone says terrible twos, but it's really terrible threes. amna: three is worse than two. >> terrible. amna: three's like a professional two year old. >> exactly. yes. so, you know, we have some knock down drag outs during the summer months of the daddy diaries. vacations over, ok? i know my way around a group of real housewives which can be infuriating and exhausting. you can't get off the couch. ok? is that a deal? so, you know what, i jumped right into toddler fits. amna: not that disimilar. >> exactly. you just let it play out. amna: you write about the decision to have kids in the first place. you refer to this is the year that you grew up. how are you different now than you were before? >> starting in the happy way, i

mean, i'm just a more grounded other person. when you publish your diaries, you really look at what you do every day and say, okay, this is my life or this is my life that i'm putting out there for consumption. and i got to the point where i thought, is this all there is? it's fun, everything is really fun. but i wanted to be grounded. amna: you've also said your book is a bit of a statement on sort of pop culture. >> i think so. amna: and how much things have changed. there's one line in the book where you say housewives are, often are offensive on some level, but the line has moved over 16 years. how has it moved? >> producing a show about a group of politically incorrect and spoken women -- >> that's my opinion! >> in 2023, in the age of cancel culture, people being offended by things you didn't know you could be offended by, is a challenge. so it has changed a lot.

amna: just the brand itself which is very much an empire, it has changed so much since the first season. they were living in town houses, they were not their own celebrity brands. now they are full glam. you have a huge convention with thousands of people. they are their own celebrities. because of the show. why do you think we have this fascination with this kind of television? >> i think it is the modern so bro -- modern so barbara. it is the soap opera of our time. i know that people who don't watch it, it's very easy to look at the clips and say and have a judgment. but i think that the reason it's still on the air is that it's about friendship and motherhood and being a wife and a sister and family, and a whole lot more. and there are things that ground it in real -- in relatability. it's also sometimes very aspirational. if it was just a drink toss or an offensive comment, it would not still be on the air, i promise. there's no way.

amna: would you let your kids watch the show one day? >> eventually. absolutely. amna: would you ever let them star in their own reality show? >> i would prefer that they not. and by the way, the people always say to me, would you ever star on a reality show? amna: yeah >> this is as close as i would get. this is a year in in my life, but i am in control of the edit. amna: did you edit yourself a lot in this? >> i edited myself, but i also pushed myself. this is my fifth book and i know and i learned in my first book you have to push yourself. this is the most vulnerable i've ever been in a book. amna: i got to ask this, too, because you, in the reunions you host with these housewives and your own show on watch what happens live, you are a very skilled interviewer. >> thank you. amna: because you know how to get people to share things that they probably wouldn't share otherwise. >> yes. amna: what makes a good interview for you? do you do that? >> i was a producer at cbs news. so i not only learned how to produce an interview, but i learned how much time, four and

a half minutes of tv time is, when they're telling me in my ear. that's actually a lot of time to get something out of someone. so that was important training for me. but also, i think a genuine curiosity is important. amna: it does give you a platform to talk about the things that you really care about. >> yes. amna: you talk about lgbtq rights. you talk about politics. do you feel that's just something you want to do or do you feel like that's a responsibility right now? >> as a gay american and as a jewish american, two groups really under fire right now, i feel like if there are issues facing my community, i speak up about it. never did i think that people would be fighting drag queens. amna: why do you think we're seeing that right now? >> i think it's a distraction from what's really going on, and it's a way to fire up on your base. let's hate on the trans community and drag queens, two marginalized roots of people. and i'm sorry, but the biggest

issue facing the world is not whether drag queens are performing. it's not an issue. amna: you've talked about the heaviness too, that comes with being a single father. >> yes. it sounds like you are id place. are you ready for a third kid? >> no. you are joking, right. >> we can talk about it later. >> i am dancing as fast as i can. >> andy cohen, author of "the daddy diaries." . thank you for coming.

>> thank you so much. >> you can hear more online with anna's lightning round of questions, from his dream guests to his favorite guests. that is on our instagram page. parts of the united states have recently been getting glimpses of the northern lights. john yang spoke with our science correspondent miles o'brien for a brief explanation of why the spectacle in the skies is now being seen further south. every year there is the northern lights, the aurora borealis. it is usually restricted to the northernmost areas of the earth. now it is coming as far south as the united states. why is that happening? >> the sun has a cycle of about 11 years. it goes from solar minimum to solar maximum. we are at the maximum where we are approaching it. that means is the activity on the sun greatly increases.

it blows particles from the sun in our direction that interact with the magnetic field in our atmosphere. in so doing, excite them and make them colorful. in some cases, green and red. because we are at this point in time where there is more of this activity headed our way, we are seeing wonderful aurora borealis or northern lights. it is expense -- is extending farther latitudes. it is a great opportunity if you never had the chance to see them, by all means, make an effort to do it. you don't have to go to the arctic or iceland because of the solar maximum. what is great about it too is when you go to see them, every time you see them, it is different. it is a different thing, a green and red light in the night. this kind of a romantic thing. >> give a that -- give us advice for people who want to see it. you want someplace that is dark.

where do you look in the sky? >> when it is there, it is everywhere. get as far north as you can. it is coming down into the northern parts of europe and in places where you would not normally see it in the united states. the thing is to get up in the middle of the night and wait and enjoy the spectacle. >> how long is this greater activity going to go on? >> i think solar maximum is quick to peek out at 2025. then it will start scaling back. in that periods -- that period of time, it will be a light show. it has the potential to cause difficulties for communications, satellites, and the power grid. the sun is a big player in our solar system. when the solar maximum occurs, it is not just a spectacle, it is a potential harm to our systems. we have to watch out for that. >> there is plenty more online, including a look at why more

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