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logan roy and givesis take on fellow actors. a warning, there are some spoilers. welcome to world news america on pbs and around the globe. the road to accountability for the january 6 capitol attack has been a long and complicated one. who more than 1000 people have been arrested in connection with the attack, more than half have pled guilty to a variety of crimes. today the wheels of justice turned against the leader of the oath keepers, steward rhodes. he was sentenced to 18 yearsprif conspiracy and other crimes. another open keep their -- oath keepers kelly received a sentence of 25 years. at capitol hill jessica parker is standing by for us. first of all, if you could, describe the reaction of the

courtroom today when the sentences were handed out. >> yes, remarkable exchanges in court today. the judge had some really strong remarks. so the judge said you present -- he was speaking to steward rhodes, an ongoing threat and peril to the country. the judge said you're smart, charismatic, compelling and that is what makes you dangerous. steward rhodes, the founder of the oath keepers, a yale educated lawyer as well. and the leader of this group. kelly was sentenced to 12 years. they seem to express more reports for -- remorseful demeanor but rhodesas defiant, saying he was a political prisoner. a characterization that the judge in court very much rejected. >> so steward rhodes was given

an 18 year prison sentence. that is the longest of these hundreds of people that have been charged after january 6. why that long sentence? >> so this is the charge of seditious conspiracy, which is a civil war era crime. which essentially is the crime of conspiring to overthrow or oppose the government by force. the judge said this is one of the most serious crimes you can be convicted of. it is one down from the crime of treason. steward rhodes as i say, the founder of thisroup in 2009. in terms of what actually happened in the lead up and around january 6, th group had stashed weapons in a nearby virginia hotel. and steward rhodes did not personally enter the capitol building, but he is said by prosecutors to have acted like a battlefield general. that is what was said during the

trial. as you were saying carl, this is a high-profile case. for those who want to see strong convictions following what happened on january 6, as trump supporters attempted to block the certication of joe biden's win, they will welcome this day. it is worth saying prosecutors had sought a longer sentence, 18 years is what landed on steward rhodes. >> what is donald trump's relationship with the oath keepers? how could this case relate to what we will be seeing in the 2024 campaign coming up. >> yeah, so i think it would be possible to look at these cases and there are many cases because hundreds of people were arrested in the wake of january. look at these as judicial manners of the past but these are current political issues as well. one reason is donald trump who of course hopes to win the republican nomination is the

front runner as well. recently in an interview, he said that he would pardon if he became president a large portion of those convicted linked to the january 6 attacks. these cases, people look at them as a political issue in those comments made headlines in the u.s., seen as controversial by people who belve that the people who were involved in what happened do need to face justice. >> thank you so much. war in uk, the u.s. defense secretary has insisted kyiv is not losing to russia. speaking at a meeting of the ukraine defen contact group, lloyd austin says ukraine has inflicted significant casualties on russia's forces. he weighed in on the training of ukrainian pilots following the announcement that the u.s. would allow other nations to provide old f-16s to ukraine's war effort. it is part of a broad commitment

by washington and its allies to the country. >> we are going to keep strengthening you cleans -- ukraine's defenders. we will get them what they need when they need it. we will remain united. we're going to stand by ukraine for as long as it takes. >> over the past weeks, ukraine has made small advances near the city of bahkmut, but inside the city there is intense fighting taking place. russia has spent nine months trying to capture the city and s suffered casualties. more than 20,000 russians have been killed in eastern ukraine and since the start of the year. many of them in the batt for the city. we do not have estimates for ukrainian casualties but they are likely to be high as well. defens correspondent jonathan beale met one ukrainian family that has paid a heavy price for the defense.

>> in ukraine, the funerals are as constant as the pounding of artillery. each soldier's death is a sacrifice for the nation. a family's loss. but few like this, an entire town in greece. for maxime, a young man who gave his fe for his brother. when war broke out last year, they joinethe army together. maxime was 22. ivan was just 18. >> he was my best frie. all the times we fought, we were in the same trench. in the same positions. in the same unit. in the same team. he was always with me and i was with him. for me, this is a very dear

person, not only by blood, but also by spirit. and in everything else. >> this is where they were last alive together. bakhmut, the place their mother now calls hell. [gunfire] >> this is them engaged in brutal fighting before a russian shall landed right next to ivan. >> when i got hit, i was paralyzed. at that time, i felt like i could not do anything. i felt something warm, then i realized that it was bleeding heavily. because i had already experienced war, i knew that i would not survive. but my brother did not let me die. he saved me.

>> the graphic video of ivan's injuries, still holding ukraine's flag, went viral. >> too dangerous for medics to enter the city, maxime pierced his brother's airway to stop him from choking. he stayed by his side for the next nine hours. when ivan was finally rescued, maxime chose to stay in bakhmut to fight alongside his comrades. he was killed week later by a russian sniper. his act of self-sacrifice, scant comfort for his mom. ♪ >> maxime had the opportunity to evacuate with ivan, but due to the fact that his comrades remained there, he said that he would not leave them. he knew that he would never

return from there. we still cannot believe it. my soul has been ripped out. i have to live only for the fact that he saved his younger brother, ivan. i no longer have a soul and no more heart. >> maxime and ivan were there only children. ukraine will not say how many more have been killed or injured in this war. but the cost to this family and to this one small town, with yet more freshly dug graves, shows it is extremely hard to bear. jonathan beale, bbc news. ♪ >> jonathan beale their reporting for us. here in the u.s., the clock is ticking as debt ceiling talks continue, but still no agreement has been reached. the credit rating industry has

put the u.s. is aaa credit on a ratings watch negative. that means the country could get a downgrade if it defaults on its debt. a downgrade would impact the global financial system, white house and republican negotiators are continuing their talks here in washington, but the lawmakers who would need to sign off on the deal are heading home for the long memorial day weekend both president joe biden and republican house speaker kevin mccarthy say that they are confident in agreement will be reached. here is mr. biden earlier. >>'ve made it clear time and again defaulting on national debt is not an option. the american people deservto know that social security payments will be there, the veterans hospital will remain open and economic progress will be made and we will continue to make it. default puts that all at risk. congressional leaders understand that and they have all agreed there will be no default. >> there will be no default. let's bring in our north american business correspondent, michelle. she has been attracting the

twists and turns of this default and debt negotiation. we heard from the president saying everyone agrees default is not an option, so what is holding back a deal? >> the biggest sticking point remas spending. you've got the republicans saying that they want sharp spending cuts but they do not want to touch things like defense spending. and here is the thing, if you do not get enough cuts, that means they will not come on board but if any deal cuts too much, then they will lose some democrats who say they do not want to see cuts to social security programs that help the neediest americans. there is this fine line, this needle to thread. meanwhile, time is running out against avoiding a default with one week left until that x date. the moment at which the u.s. will not have enough cash to pay its bills. >> we are hearing from these

ratings agencies. saying that there could be a potential downgrade of u.s. bt. how worried is wall street right now about what might happen in the next couple of weeks? >> i think investors have been following this for a while now and the baselined prediction has been that some deal would be done before time ran out. but as the calendar and the days have kind of kept going by, you started to see nervousness increase. so for example, jpmorgan chase, an economist bear predicted there was a one in four chance that the x date comes and goes without a deal being struck. then you start to have things like the fear gauge, the fix index on walltreet, which is seen as a measure of how nervous people are feeling. that has been creeping up. also if you look at the bond market right now, there areort

of issues going on which suggests that nervousness and anxiety is increasing, but we are not yet running for the panic buttons. >> meanwhile, look, lawmakers are just like us. they want to take off for the long holiday weekend. it sounds like they're going to do that. what should we make of that in terms of a sense of how close these deals are to being done? >> well, i mean, you have to get the deal done and you have to get it done in time to write it up. allow 72 hours for that house to have a chance tread through it. that is something kevin mccarthy says he will not waive then they have to vote on it inoth chambers of the house and the senate. all of this needs to get done by the first of june. so there is very little tim left on the calendar. some people are saying that a vote needs to happen by tuesday to sort of avoid a default. and that is why there is this increasing pressure and at the moment it sounds like there is a sense of optimism which we have not seen before that is

beginning to creep into these talks. you've got president biden in the clip you just played and mccarthy saying they're not thinking about default right now. >> the clock continues to take. michelle following the story in new york, thank you very much. the head of the spanish football league has said racism can never be 100% eliminated. javier spoke to the bbc after real madrid forward was the target of abuse at valencia on sunday. they said they believed racist insults could be mostly driven out of the country's stadiums within months if the league had greater powers. >> we are convinced that if we had those powers within months weould get rid of this problem or at least considerably in general and specifically in this case. if we do not have the powers all we can do is to file complaints and that is what we have done. >>ow long would it take do you

think to eradicate racism in spanish football if the leak was given the powers that you wanted it to have and if spain's institutions acted in the way you would like them to act? >> eliminating this problem 100% will never be possible. the same way that eliminating robberies and other crimes is impossible. we would reduce it a great deal and if we were given at the necessary powers, in six or seven months we could say that we do not have racism. >> florida governor ron desantis'long-awaited presidential campaign launch did not go as planned. he officially declared he is running for the republican nomination of course on twitter in an audio only livestream hosted by the sites owner, elon musk. the conversation took a while to get going, it was marred by technical glitches and by the time the broadcast got underway, hundreds of thousands of twitter users had given up. what is next for the presidential hopeful?

>> technical glitches aside, the real work now begins for ron desantis. he is holding an event in miami this evening. he will be holding a rally next week in florida. he has got to crisscross the country and find out if conservative policies do work on a national stage. he has got to find his personal touch. he has long been criticized for beingloof and standoffish and not having the qualities that you need as a retail politician. he is going to see how well he does against donald trump. republican voter laura told me that she thinks ron desantis has the edge. >> female voters, they tend to -- they tend to focus on how the politician is speaking. his cadence, his tone, his vocabulary. and ron desantis is a better speaker. so women will actually tend to favor him. >> lauren also thinks that if it

was a rematch of joe biden versus donald trump, trump would win. it's interesting because a poll out which was released before ron desantis announced his candidacy suggests that joe biden is trailing donald trump by five percentage points among registered voters in trailing ron desantis by four percentage points. we know that polls can change and we don't know which man or woman will face joe biden in 2024. republican voters will get to decide next summer. >> now scientists in canada and here in the u.s. have used artificial intelligence to develop a new antibiotic which can kill a deadly superbug. the researchers used the technology to identify chemicals which could destroy bacteria that have become resistant to antibiotics. they say ai has the power to accelerate the discovery of new treatments but they acknowlee the new drug will need further tests. a look at other stories making headlines.

a man has been arrested in london after a car crashed into the gates of downing street. the home of the prime minister. you can see the car ther officials detained the man on suspicion of criminal damage and dangerous driving. the prime minister was home at the time of the incident but later left for acheduled visit. the incident is not being treated asror related. president joe biden has named general charles round junior as the next chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. this would make mr. brown the only other black officer to hold this top post in u.s. history besides general powell. the history making air pilot will be the president's top military advisor. now turning to one of the most popular tv dramas in recent years. if you are a fan o succession, you will be familiar with its lead actor brian cox who plays logan roy. the tale of a media mogul and his ruthless children has many devoted fans has been to bbc.

you want to warn you that this interview has a major spoiler right there at the beginning, so if you're not up to speed, you have been warned. >> hello, brian. >> he set a lifetime of roles on stage and screen. >> get on the floor. >> it is this role in succession that has given ryan cox's greatest success. logan roy, the media boss and a terrifying patriarch. given this program is airing before the finale of succession, i think it makes sense to begin at the end and this is where he cut to an enormous spoiler alert. we tell people that logan roy does die. it was it strange leaving the production? it had been a big part of your life and your mind? >> it was an odd feeling. you know, i looked on it wrongly, wrongly. a form of rejection. >> the series was created by

british writer and producer jesse armstrong. he has delivered nearly 40 episodes. one of the most famous characters in recent television histor logan roy's menace is undeniable. >> something better, something faster, meaner, wilder. as i am going to do it from in here. where you are. >> did you have any leeway, any sway? i think may be logan should not die. >> though, there is no point going down that road, especially with somebody like jesse, because he has already made a plan but he decided to make logan die i think ultimately too early. he made him die in the third episode. and you know, i think maybe he could have died at would have thought the fifth or the sixth episode i would have thought. that would have been appropriate. it was bold of jesse and that is where jesse is great. there is no question, he is a writing genius. >> now aged 70 six, cox lives in

new york with his second life but returns to london. next year he will be on stage in the west end. you are held up as one of the big voices on film and tv. what do you make of what is going on with the writers strike out in hollywood? >> they have to strike, they really do. >> what's it about? >> getti proper pay for what they do. it is a big industry and writers are at the center of it. they should get what they deserve. they're not getting what they deserve. they will. it will be a long haul but they will in the end. they will come to some kind of an agreement. >> creek fire questions. maximum 10 words, minimum one. we start withpinions and other actors. what do you make of brad pitt? >> brad pitt is a worker. and he has really worked on himself as an actor. i do not think his natural inclination was to do that, i think because of the way he looked. he stumbled into it. i think he has become an

extremely fine actor. >> michaelane? >> michael kane. actually i saw him the other night, he was really good. he can be really good. he is. sorry, that sounds terribly patronizing, i don't mean it. >> helen mirren? >> i love her. >> idris elba? >> i admire him. >> johnny depp. >> he is more of a creature that an actor. much more of a creature and he is a great creature, do not get me wrong, but i never quite believed there was a range there. there is always that thing about johnny depp, you know. >> if you could impart one life lesson from all that you have learned for that 17-year-old brian cox on the train from dundee to london in the swinging 60's, what would it be? >> always pursue your blessing.

always. -- your bliss, yeah. that which fulfills you. >> it was an absolute pleasure to talk to you. >> thank you. >> bbc news. >> i know for sure we had a lot of journalists out there that are looking forward to that. they have their ears closed not wanting to hear any spoilers. wednesday's announcement of the death of legend tina turner brought tributes from fans around the world including a unique one from the staff at the u.s. embassy in australia. ♪ >> tina turner's 1973 hit nut bush city limits is about life in a small town in the u.s. state of tennessee but australians have taken of the song to their own hearts over the years. it has become the most have a song at a wedding or a disco across the country. in fact some of the keenest fans

have set world records for the largest number of people performing the dance in australia on multiple occasions. tina turner died at the age of 83, anothe example of how her influence lives on. remember, you can always find more on our website, plus check out what we are working on any time on twitter narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪

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