geoff: good evening. i'm geoff bennett. steps up its counteroffensive against russia amid increasing aerial attacks. we talk with the united nations top humanitarian official from united nations on the ongoing conflict. the southern baptist convention votes to bar female pastors. and scientists issue increasingly dire warnings about warming oceans and the effects of climate change. >> there has been very little indication that all of the actions that governments and people around the world are taking is it really knocking back the amount of emissions of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. ♪

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the supreme court has upheld a 1978 law on the adoption of native american children. the indian child welfare act gives preference native american families. most tribal groups supported it, but some republic -- republican-led states and white families argue it is illegally based on race. a seven justice majority rejected the challenges. police at least 15 people are dead and 10 are injured following a collision between a semitrailer truck and a bus in manitoba, canda. the bus was taking 25 senior tzecilodro ivnscas casua . ivse hospital. parts of the deep south faced severe weather today -- after a first round yesterday. video showed hail pelting parts of arkansas, while high winds toppled trees elsewhere. a tornado touched down in texas this evening, downing power lines and damaging mobile homes. the storms are being followed by a heat wave that could send

temperatures to 100 degrees across the region. also a tropical cyclone blasted ashore today in western india and southern pakistan. the storm made landfall in india's kutch district with winds gusting to nearly 90 miles an hour. it brought heavy downpours and forced more than 170,000 people to flee coastal areas. tides could rise 18 feet in some places. in southern greece, rescuers search the mediterranean for a second day after a migrant boat disaster. officials have confirmed nearly 80 people drowned but hundreds more are missing. the greek coast guard released images of a battered fishing boat for it sank wednesday. today opposition leader visited survivors and blame europe's migration rules for the disaster. >> there are huge political responsibilities with the migration policy that europe has been following for years -- a

migration policy that turns the mediterranean, our seas, into watery graves. and i think it is time to speak the truth, because this policy has to change. vanessa greek authorities have : also arrested nine of the survivors, on suspicion that they helped organize the voyage. the u.s., south korea and japan have again condemned north korea -- for firing two more short-range ballistic missiles today. they landed in the sea of japan. the launches came after u.s. and south korean forces completed their latest joint military drills. the north said the drills provoked its actions. in a scathing report from the british parliament, it finds former prime minister boris johnson lied about staff parties during the covid lockdown. a committee of lawmakers said that he misled the house on an issue of greatest importance and did so repeatedly. johnson resigned from parliament last week. the cdc is reporting a jump in

suicides and homicides among the nation's youth during the pandemic. the suicide rate for adults in their early 20's reached its highest point in more than 50 years. the homicide rate for older teenagers was the worst it has been in nearly 25 years. factors could include depression, lack of mental health services, and a growing number of guns. dockworkers and west coast port operators have agreed on a tentative contract today. several work disruptions had snarled up operations during more than a year of negotiations. the new contract promises higher wages for 22,000 workers who handle 40% of the american imports. still to come, we speak to the un's top humanitarian official about the toll of conflicts around the world. also an investigation reveals the rampant environmental and human rights abuses at sea. and we look at the life of actor turned politician glenda

jason. >> this is the pbs newshour, from w eta studios in washington, and in the west, from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. geoff: the head of the un nuclear tchdog visited europe's largest nuclear plant today near the frontlines in southern ukraine. the zaporizhzhia power plant is under russian control, and uses water from the dnipro river to cool its reactors. but a major dam near the plant was destroyed last week, potentially depriving it of that vital water. contingency measures to stabilize the plant are underway, while elsewhere in ukraine a major counteroffensive is taking shape. emma murphy of independent television news reports from the frontlines. correspondent: they didn't start this war, but their hard fight is to end it. correspondent: this is ukraine's counteroffensive. this. no heavy

heavy weapons for heavy battles. the fight is hard and complicated by what they're fighting with. this gun is from the 1980s, the ammunition from from the 1960's. it's unreliable. and the fix is rudimentary. how important is this counter-offensive? >> it's very, very important because we need to liberate the occupied territory of ukraine so civilians under russian occupation can be brought back to ukraine. correspondent: they hide their treasure well, then make its presence felt by using heavy artillery like this to break down russian infantry positions over the ridge just beyond there. this counteroffensive will not be fast.

it will be slow, grinding and a , a fight for every single meter. itv news spent two days on the frontline with ukrainian forces , with an army made up of professional soldiers and civilians who become fighters. through fields reminiscent of battles past. they showed us the technology that has changed the way of warfare. drones have been absolutel crucial to the way this war has been waged, and they will be even more important in the counter-offensive. soldier: my uncle is retired. correspondent: the unit commander tells me the drones allow them to find russian positions up to two miles away, then strike their men and their machinery. they move on foot because vehicles are a targets at the forward command base. the drones and artillery are coordinated. what happens here drives the counteroffensive. this base is very close to the

fighting. missiles fly above them continually. correspondent: sergei explains how he receives information on the targets from the drone teams and coordinates the firing units. and where is that place there? on the armored wall, amid all the technology, someone has hung ukrainian prayer for soldiers. they all pray for an end to this war and know their work might hasten that year. composer as we -- as we speak, another hit is called for. here they are able to see the , results of their work, watching the strikes in real time. but russia has the same power to survey and attack. so elaborate trenches lead to the western weaponry so crucial to ukraine's survival. pieces like this provided by poland seven months ago.

they go up to fire. but there's a problem. a russian drone has been spotted. breaking covert risks being hit. they pull back below the camouflage and hope. while they wait for safer skies, they explain how they work and sleep in their position for days. the ukrainians won't say how many soldiers they've lost, but it's thought to be close to 20,000. every soldier knows, the counter assault is much more dangerous than defense. this gun helps us slowly get back our land, alexy says. but insists there's still a need for more weaponry and ammunition. when finally the drone seems to be gone, they prepare to break cover once more. they know after firing, it can be less than 5 minutes for the

russians to identify their position and hit back. they've lost many colleagues that way and know to take shelter. later, the commander sums up the mood of his troops. >> we are all trying our best and we want all of these to finish as soon as possible. we are doing everything to achieve it. corresndent: the counter offensive won't end this war, but it will certainly shape the future of it. ♪ geoff: in ukraine, floodwaters are receding more than a week after the destruction of the major dam that severely inundated surrounding towns. but the damage is evolving into a long-term environmental and humanitarian disaster with far-reaching consequences.

thousands of people have been displaced, hundreds of thousands are left without normal access to drinking water, and ukraine fears losing million of tons of crops. martin griffiths is the humanitarian affairs chief for the united nations and joins us now to talk about the relief effort in ukraine and in other parts of the world. thank you for being with us. the scale of destruction following that collapse is enormous. some 700 thousand people without access to drinking water. how is your team on the ground addressing the immense challenge of providing minutes hearing aid to those affected? >> well, right now, we are reaching about 200,000 people. do this through a series of daily convoys, delivering aid, and also helping evacuation for those who want to leave. we are very worried about the secondary consequences.

700,000 people have been robbed of safe drinking water as a result of that catastrophe. geoff: president zelenskyy said he was shocked at the failure of the u.n. and the red cross to help after the dam was destroyed. how do you respond to that criticism? >> i respond by saying that i completely understand his frustration. it's a frustration that comes from a leader who has enormous empathy with his people. it's true that response to sudden disasters like that, whether it is a dam blown up or an earthquake, as we saw in syria and turkiye recently, getting a to the people immediately is sometimes frustration. we were there later that day, and as i say, we've reached 200,000 people so far. geoff: ukraine says russia is shelling boats, trying to

evacuate some areas. in some cases blocking volunteers who try to deliver help. as you see it, is russia actively sabotaging the relief effort? >> i don't know the answer to that question. what i do know is that we are seeking acces to the other side of the river, to the side which is under russian occupation. we are seeking the understanding of the russian federation to enable us to do that when we are standing by ready to cross that river, because we haven't had access to many thousands of people across the line of conflict. geoff: do you expect that will change? you met with russia's u.n. ambassador to talk about this. >> yes i did, and it was a

useful conversation. we had subsequently put into play what we call a you humanitarian notification system. we notified the russian federation of our plan and we are seeking their reaction to it as we speak. i hope it works and we are able to do it. geoff: there is also the domino affect of the floods. it has inundated agricultural areas meaning there will be a likely lower grain export leading to higher prices around the globe and less for people to eat. how is the u.n. planning to confront that challenge? >> we have an operation in the black sea. i worry a lot about the effect on global food prices and as much as anything on global food availability. we will see the extent of that damage as the waters recede. it is a catastrophe for the world. geoff: a question about the

grain deal. president putin says he is thinking about walking away from the deal next month when it expires. how real is that possibility? what would convince him to stay? >> my response is the black sea initiative cannot fail. the needs of global food security are as keen now as ever. as you know there will be a visit, all six heads of state of african countries to kyiv and to the russian federation in the next few days. they will be making that message very clear. geoff: you mentioned the african countries. let's shift our focus to sudan. more than half of the population there standsn dire need of humanitarian assistance. large parts of the country remain inaccessible to aid. millions of people have been confined to their homes.

what kind of challenge does the crisis in sudan present to the world? >> there is nowhere in the world that i am more worried than i am today about sudan. there are just shy of 9 million people in darfur who need humanitarian aid and who have not received any aid since the two months of this particular conflict. we have been trying to get aid in there from across the border in chad or from the east and we have failed to get the necessary assurances from the two militaries to allow us to deliver safely. that is an extraordinary priority for all of us. just under half a million people have left sudan in these 10 weeks to find safety in the neighboring countries. many of those countries are fragile themselves.

i am very worried about how it is evolving. and we look to see the african union take the lead in bringing a resolve and ending the conflict as soon as possible. geoff: the taliban has banned most women from working for ngo's. that has affected the delivery of aid across that country. the last time we spoke with you on this program, you said they were working on guidelines to allow women to get back to work. it has been six months. is there progress? >> we have not seen the guidelines, that is for sure. promises do not allow women to work. we need to see the reality. it needs to change. and those edicts need to be revoked. what we are doing at the moment in afghanistan is to work all -- for women, with women through ngo's. because of the exemptions and exceptions and permissions that we can obtain from the taliban.

an exemption does not prove the rule. an exception still means that women and girls of afghanistan are repressed. we need to see some sort of reliability of their reentry into the life of their country and that would also mean that the international community can engage to give the people of afghanistan proper chance. not just through humanitarian aid. but through the help of the economy and through counterterrorism. all the aspects that make the safety of afghanistan important to all of us. geoff: i read where you once said humanitarians could be driven out of business by the resolution of conflicts. it strikes me that the work your team does now is needed more than ever. how do you see it? >> it is terrifying.

we have under $60 billion in programs around the world. we will probably get half of that funded. it is increasing enormously. we have 340 million people around the world that need humanitarian aid. that is equivalent to the third largest country or population in the world. what is needed is for people to stop thinking that war solves the problems of their state. people need to understand that casual acts of violence have long-term consequences. we s that because we are there on the frontlines that you mentioned. but everyone knows this to be true. this is a common message. geoff: martin griffiths is the humanitarian affairs chief for the united nations. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. ♪

geoff: the southern baptist convention, the largest protestant denomination has moved dramatically to bar women from holding leadership roles in its churches. the organization voted overwhelmingly yesterday to finalize the expulsion of two churches that have female pastors. it includes saddleback church in california. and fern creek baptist church in louisville, kentucky. before the vote, rick warren, one of the biggest and most bronner churches in the country tried seeking unity by focusing on the faith message. >> the baptist faith and message is 4032 words. saddleback disagrees with one that is 99.9999 -in agreement. isn't that close enough?

geoff: the reverend linda barnes has led fern creek baptist church for over 30 years. thank you for being with us. as we mentioned the vote by the southern baptist convention was overwhelming. members voted by a ratio of 9-1 to expel your church and saddleback. albert mohler, president of the southern baptist theological seminary in louisville explain his opposition to female pastors this way. >> it is a matter of biblical commitment. a commitment to the scripture that unequivocally limits the office of pastor to men. it is an issue of biblical authority. geoff: there are other members that note the roman catholic church also does not allow women to serve as pastors or priests. how do you respond to that? that it is a matter of biblical integrity. >> i certainly believe it is a matter of biblical integrity.

however i also know that the spirit gives illumination to our hearts and minds and we can interpret the scripture through the holy spirit's leading. i believe the bible is god's perfect word. i believe every word in the bible. but there are passages such as those in first timothy, corinthians that our church would interpret differently then he does. and obviously the majority of the people that attend a convention meeting interpret them. geoff: why did you want to maintain your membership? there are any number of baptist churches that are thriving that are not affiliated with the southern baptist convention. what significance did membership hold for you a your congregation? >> it has been my family for all of these many years. and we are heavily involved in the women's missionary union in southern baptist life and we

like partnering, we like the evangelistic zeal of the southern baptist convention. we like partnering in missions. and therefore we have continued, though we have not agreed on everything, there are many things in which i disagree with different leaders and different pastors but i just believe that we are supposed to be under this great umbrella together because we agree that jesus christ is lord and he is the reason we are here in the first place, to share the gospel of jesus christ and we ought to be able to be partners together in that. that should t -- not at all divide us. but instead the bible has been used like a weapon from some of these folks. a weapon against those of us that believe it as strongly as they do. we just interpret it

differently. geoff: on that point, do you see a political aspect to this? there are people that point to what they see is the internal politics. that this vote came on the heels of a devastating report of sexual abuse within the sbc and more broadly there is a wing of the southern baptist condition -- convention that wants to reverse what it sees as a liberal drift. >> i wholeheartedly agree that there are internal political maneuverings, deeds done in darkness in which we won't really understand. the reason i believe that is two years ago, the credentials committee of the southern baptist convention deemed us in friendly cooperation with the convention. and what happened in two years? how can two years ago many of the same committee members want to keep us and then two years after that, decide that we are

no longer in friendly cooperation? and they let me know then by their spokesperson that we were in friendlier cooperation with the southern baptist convention and the message than many of the other churches. so what changed? of course there is some kind of political maneuverings going on. geoff: as i understand it, after you spoke on the floor, a woman from texas brought her daughter over to you and the daughter was weeping. could you share that story? >> what a poignant moment. the child came over. i had never seen her. she comes to me and is sobbing. i took her in my arms. she said she was lottie and she was 14 years old and at age 11 i , knew god called me into ministry. what can i do? i don't have a place to serve. her family, her parents are steeped in southern baptist life. just like we were here, so what is that child going to do?

we promised her that when she graduates from high school, she can come here as one of our interns and we will help to mentor her as well as having her wonderful parents that we just met who will mentor her as well. we were happy to do that. and wherever we might be as a church at that time we will embrace her. geoff: how do you feel on a personal level? you have been affiliated with fern creek for 40 years and have been serving as pastor for 30 years. to have fellow faith leaders reject you when you believe in your heart that you were following a calling. how does that feel? >> it is hurtful. but i have to say there is some righteous indignation in there also because of the hypocrisy i feel is going on. the same people who have told me to my face what an exemplary church and we wish other southern baptist churches were like you. i have heard that so many times

over the years. i did not think this time would ever come in southern baptist life because we are very evangelical, mission minded, conservative. i did not think it would happen to us. geoff: what message does this vote send to women who serve in leadership roles around the church? whether it is leading the music ministry or the youth ministry, running sunday school? >> i think it says women, go somewhere else. find a place to serve outside this denomination. we don't want to deal with you. my message to the world is about jesus christ. that jesus christ is lord and let's do that together male and female. sons and daughters are prophesying. let's do that together in partnership. and i do believe that jesus would say to those, woe to you,

scribes and pharisees and teachers of the law. you hypocrites. you are not majoring on the right things. you have departed from the most important things. you have neglected the things that god wants you to be doing. i think it is just a sad day. geoff: linda barnes is pastor at fern creek baptist church. thank you for your time. >> thank you. ♪ geoff: the ocean is rapidly heating up hitting record-breaking levels. the national oceanic and atmospheric administration reported this week that ocean surface temperatures sparked in april and may to the highest levels recorded since the 1950's. this could have dangerous consequences for aquatic life, hurricane activity and global weather patterns.

to better understand what is happening we spoke with a distinguished scholar at the national center for atmospheric research. amna: welcome back to the newshour and thank you for joining us. the temperature increases have a lot of folks concerned. and charts like this one have gone viral. this one shows mean temperatures from 1982 to 2023 in the north atlantic sea. the red line is 2023. should that increase concern us? >> indeed. and it is not just the north atlantic. it is all around the world at the moment. amna: tell us why. why are we seeing the increases, and what should we understand about them? >> we have written reports every year for a number of years. the oceans as a whole for the top two kilometers of the ocean

are the warmest on record. 2022 is the warmest year on record. 2020 was the warmest year before that. global warmer is happening. the other thing playing a major role at the moment is over the last three years we have had la niña conditions, relatively cool conditions. from the date line to the americas in the tropical pacific ocean. now, we are into el niño conditions, rather warm conditions. there is some pronounced warming off the west coast of south america, peru and ecuador it is disrupting the fisheries there. it has warmed across that sector. the oceans, the surface of the ocean as a whole is a warmest on record and has been since april, may and into june. and we are running 2/10 of a degree celsius to anything prior to that and substantially above

the long-term average. amna: let's talk about one of the impacts. what do those conditions coming together mean particularly as we move into hurricane season? >> it means that along with the general weather that goes on, there are hotspots in the ocean that are becoming increasingly intense and frequent. the hotspots attract a lot of weather activity above them. convection of different kinds. small-scale storms intensify or hurricanes. they move around naturally. it is a little difficult to say exactly where these spots are going to be. but the fact that they are occurring more and more is a part of this overall local -- global warming signature we have. they have real consequences in

many ways. amna: what about the impact of the warmer waters on aquatic life? there were pictures that got a lot of attention recently showing thousands of dead fish washing ashore along the texas gulf coast in recent days. how much of that is attributed the warmer waters? >> with global warming over 90% of the excess energy being generated every day goes into the oceans. and in the oceans, it warms from the top down. that means warm water is sitting on top of cold water which is a stable configuration. what we have been able to document is the oceans are becoming more stratified. that means the natural exchanges of air of all kinds including carbon dioxide and oxygen are less than what they used to be. in general this is overcome by wave action.

by disturbances in the atmosphere. but in conditions where there are no waves or wind to speak of, and i believe that is what happened in the gulf which can also be complicated by nutrient runoff. some pollution in the gulf itself. those conditions come together and create no oxygen conditions for the fish. amna: big picture, when people see these increases and temperatures and a catches their attention, they see air temperatures and global sea temperatures at record highs, what should they understand about that? how much of that is attributed to climate change? and do we expect that increase to continue? >> the first part of the year will hold it down. 2023 may not be the warmest year on record. at the moment that is held by 2016. but it will be close.

but 2024 is looking as though it will be the warmest year on record. and part of this is el niño. but certainly the relentless increases in temperatures around the world are related to the global warming problem that we have an climate change. amna: do the increases say to you the rate of climate change is accelerating? that is the other concern we have heard. >> it is the case. the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere goes up and continues too up. close to record levels. there has been little indication that all of the actions that governments and people around the world are taking is knocking back the amount of emissions of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. this is the bottom line as to how the atmosphere is changing and carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas that produces glob warming.

amna: thank you for your time. >> you are most welcome. geoff: to a different and darker story of humans on the high seas. world oceans are in many ways lawless places where piracy overfishing, toxic reads on bing -- toxic waste dumping and even murder are routine. we have a look at the outlaw oceans and the case of cold-blooded killings on the water. william: it started with a lost cell phone found in the back of a taxi cab in fiji. on the phone was video filmed on a ship in the indian ocean showing clearly what seem to be a series of cold-blooded murders. tracing the crime, who the victims were, who the killers were, and who in the end was responsible has been the work of a journalistic collaborative.

let's see an expert from their story reported by its head. and a warning, what you are about to see is disturbing. >> a 10 minute slow-motion slaughter caught on camera. the footage had gone viral. interpol had come to me as this is exactly the sort of brutality at sea i report on. i could tell the capsized boat was a traditional east african doubt although shooting is being ordered in chinese. the circumstances surrounding these killings have remained a mystery. no one even reported the incident and no one was doing anything about it. how could such a crime happen and remain untouched? what made offshore violence different and near impossible to solve? a breakthrough came from a private open source intelligence company.

i contacted them and asked them to help investigate the crime. no one else in the world was doing so. >> my name is duncan copeland. i am the director of tnt. we pieced together from the grainy and shaky footage different areas of the vessel. we then ran a comparison through our systems and in the end we look at over 3000 photos of around 300 vessels and luckily we were able to hit on two that matched enough of the features and one in particular that we had a fairly high confidence level. it was called the 101. taiwan was the flag state but it had been licensed by seychelles to operate in its waters. >> it is a complex picture. ships that belong to one country and fly the flag of another with an international crew.

this ship belonged to taiwan, one of the largest fleets in the world and had a chinese captain. deckhands from a half dozen different countries. it was part of a notorious fleet operating under other national flags that allowed it to breach international fishing laws with regular impunity. it was already under the yellow card system of the eu for violations and aggression to smaller vessels. operating in a pack, the ship had all of the advantages over that patch of ocean. a small dow did not stand a chance. in collaboration with tmt my staff combed thousands of facebook pages and open source images and we were able to identify the culprit if not the cause of the killing. >> this was not a piracy attack.

in this case the crew interviews seemed to indicate this had been taken to a whole other level by this particular captain. and that he had become very aggressive and very confrontational with other vessels that might be fishing in the region that he wanted to target. >> the captain not only ordered the security guards to fire but at one point took the weapon and fired it himself. it was certainly more than the four people killed that you see on camera that died that day and more than likely it was closer to 10 or 15. what became obvious to me is were it not for a killing caught on a cell phone camera left carelessly and a taxi in fiji, no one anywhere would've known this had taken place despite dozens of witnesses and troves of evidence. violent crimes occur regularly and with full impunity because

the workforce that operates in this space is poor, invisible and has no leverage with the law. it also occurs because there is no requirement under maritime law to report it. no central database r logging crimes. and flag registries do not want to have to do anything about it because the legalities of doing so are complex and costly. the old saying is crime is only countered as much as it is counted. and at sea, that is not much. here, bodies and evidence simply sink beneath the waves. reporter: and joining me now is the head of the outlaw oceans project. we talked eight years ago at this table about this casehat you document in this piece. back then the video had recently come to light.

you detail this somewhat in your piece, but tell us more about why it took so long to get to the bottom of this. >> it is a shocking reality of crimes at sea and typically there is little interest from governments and law enforcement. it is difficult to investigate and evidence is sparse. the jurisdiction is difficult. in this case we had evidence of cell phone footage but it was not clear when, who, and where were the culprits and the victims. for all these reasons, no government wanted to touch it. william: and you have no reason to believe this was an isolated case. >> unfortunately not. when you talk to deckhands about egregious crimes, the u.n. in 2009 did a deep investigation of deckhands on the south china sea and found that 49% had witnessed

a murder of other crew on board the ships they worked. william: almost half. >> this is not unusual. william: you do a series of investigative reports and one is that many of these workers on the high seas are indentured or slave like. how does that circumstance come to be? >> this kind of fishing in general is a high labor, though low profit industry. most middle-class first world countries do not want to do this work. the manning agencies tend to recruit inland, often illiterate and poor workers. indonesia and philippines are big producers of laborers. they got recruited and spent two years at sea sometimes upwards of three. and they are all debt bonded in the sense that they are recruited and don't have any money so they accrue a debt with

the trafficker. the debt is handed over to the captain and they have to work to pay off the debt and that is debt bondage. william: and obviously no unions, no hr departments to go to. another episode features a magic pipe. can you explain why shipping companies use it? >> it is usually a 4-5 meter long tube that connects the storage container that holds the ssshngip waste on you're supposed to carry and unload when you get into port. it is costly and time-consuming for large ships to do it the right way. the legal way. the solution is you run a magic pipe that goes under the ship and disappears, that is its magic, the sludge into the ocean. it is easy to get away with it because no one is out there looking for it.

oil spills are bad but intentional spilling is worse. william: your report documents that because there is no overarching governing authority to enforce these rules, that is why these things go on. is there any push to try to create some form of more efficient jurisdiction and enforce these kinds of laws or not? >> the notion of having an international police force, the blue helmets of the high seas, is not one that carries much traction. there is not really a push for that. there are alternate efforts. all of these ships at some point have to come to land so they are entering ports. those nations if they want can sign onto various agreements that say essentially when any ship comes into your port you will check for these things.

there are other decentralized tactics like using satellites to monitor where ships are going and what they are up to and then applying pressure to the market players, the companies that benefit saying you are associated with crimes, are you ok with that? william: good to see you. >> thank you for having me. ♪ geoff: british actor glenda jackson has died at the age of 87. thtwo-time oscar-winner had a 23 year second act as a member of british parliament. she returned to the stage in 2018 winning a tony for her ro in 3 tall women. our reporter sat down with jackson to talk to her about both of her remarkable careers. as we look at her passing here is a look at that conversation. repoer: it was quite a return. after 23 years away from the

theater, jackson took to the stage in 2016 in shakespeare's king lear playing king lear. >> that is one of the endearing things about the theater. i can put it into a kind of immediate context. you work with people and may not see them for decades. bump into them in the street and there is no time gap. reporter: now 82 jackson as back on broadway for the first time since 1998 starring in three tall women. it is a play about memory and aging that appealed to jackson partly because of its strong female roles, something she says is a rarity. we spoke recently in times square. >> it has been my experience since i first walked onto the stage and got paid for it, that contemporary dramatists find women boring.

we are hardly ever the kind of dramatic engine of what they are writing. reporter: why do you think that has been the case? >> you are a man, you tell me? they don't seem to think that being a woman is either interesting or dramatic or challenging or dangerous or any of the things that any woman in the world knows. reporter: has this been a problem for you in your career, finding roles? >> of course it is a problem, a problem that has not seemed to change. it is amusing to me. it has not shifted. reporter: it is hard to imagine anyone finding jackson boring. beginning in the 1960's she was a prominent presence on stage and screen on both sides of the atlantic. >> i could never love you.

reporter: she reached wide fame in woman in love. she won her first academy award as best actress. her roles playing strong and dynamic women continue to win a claim and awards. >> i am an absolute princess. reporter: this aired on masterpiece theatre. she won a second oscar for the 1973 film, a touch of class. in 1988, jackson, a longtime critic of margaret thatcher left acting for what would become a decades long political career as a labour party member of the british parliament. >> by far the most dramatic and heinous demonstration of thatcherism was when every shot doorway every night became the

bedroom, the living room, the bathroom for the homeless. reporter: when you left acting was it because you had done enough? >> good heavens, no, my country was being destroyed. anything i could do that was legal to get margaret thatcher and her government out i was prepared to have a go out. because, everything i have been talk to regard as vices, she said was virtues. selfishness wasn't selfishness, it was taking care of your immediate responsibilities. reporter: did you come to feel that you accomplished something meaningful as a politician? >> not as an individual. the idea that you have individual power in that sense is actually not true. you have clear responsibilities towards your own constituents and constituency and that to me was the most interesting part of it. but yes, we did make changes but then along came the iraq war.

reporter: one issue she champion, women's rights in the home and workplace. i asked if she was surprised about the force of the #metoo movement now. >> what surprises me is that people are surprised. in my country, for example, two women die every week at the hands of their partner not infrequently mail. every week. that is not on the front pages of our newspapers every week. so this sudden almost cataclysm of surprise, shock, horror, how could this happen -- i don't buy it. i mean, people are deluding themselves. we failed to acknowledge it. we failed to work to eradicate it. it takes more than just being shocked to eradicate it. reporter: for you personally do you have any regrets about

having taken the time away from acting to be a politician? >> oh no, it is an inordinate privilege to be a member of parliament. people give you their trust. and they also give you what i regard as their most valuable right in the sense, their votes. and that is a very humbling and privileged experience to have. reporter: now that you are back, do you plan to continue acting? >> i would hope to. yes, i mean, you know, yes, it is one of the things that has been and is at the moment very essential in my life. if the work is not exciting and daunting as i have been privileged to experience over the last couple of years. reporter: for the pbs newshour, i'm jeffrey brown on broadway in new york.

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