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to me, which they cannot implement. >> where is your leadership, prime minister? why aren't you engaging in the foreign stocks in -- boris johnson debate? ♪ >> hello there. thanks for joining us on the program in the u.k., mp said been debating over the privileges report. boris johnson. lee misled parliament about lockdown parties in downing street. they recommended a 90 day suspension. mr. johnson had already stood down as an mp. we will be life from west minister shortly. we bring you a special report from the front lines of the cranium counteroffensive. our correspondent has been
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embedded with one of the ukrainian big grades leading the push in the south. a submersible used to take people to the view the wreck of the titanic has gone missing in the atlantic ocean.ill bng you n the search and rescue mission. a water crisis in south africa has seen the taps in many homes run completely dry for days at a time. we will talk to one local expert about the crisis. let's get the latest from westminster, where in peace have been debating that dramatic report from last week which found the former prime minister boris johnson repeatedly slid parliament about lockdown parties in downing street. they recommended a 90 day suspension, but mr. johnson had already stood down as an mp, calling the ruling deranged. we go live now to my colleague, sarah campbell, on the college green in westminster. we are owing through the speakers in parliament. >> we have had roughly three and
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a half hours of debate in the house. it has been emotional, emoting strong words. one of the labor mps said in her 26 years in the house of commons, she has never seen a report so deming as from the privileges committee. she said we must draw a line in the sand for ministers thinking they can lie to parliament whether junior ministers or the prime minister. my colleague from the political unit at bbc has been watching it all, what has been the overarching commentary? >> what has struck me has been the passion, the emotion of the debate. i have been covering parliamentary debates on and off for 40 years. that is what comes over. the argument made by many, but perhaps personified powerfully by the former leader of the conservative party prime minister. basically saying, mps repeated this from all sides, this was
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about restoring faith in parliament, making the point nobody is above the law. you can have -- cannot not have to so many ministers lying. cannot be one rule for the people who work and live in the building and a rule for everybody else who stuck by covid restrictions. the idea this is parliament's chance for a fight back. what has also stood out is the handful of conservative mps who, like boris johnson, said they are not convinced about the evidence and it is ok for us to criticize this report. >> boris johnson no longer here because he is not an m.v.p. -- mp. >> there has been criticism the strategy he is trying to employ, which is to say i am not boris johnson, i am a different person. somehow, not wanting to upset conservative party activists who love boris johnson, who think of him as good old boris. it has put him in a difficult position. the main opposition labor party, if you do not see lots of
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concerned mps, they will say, mr. soon at and the whole conservative party have lost their moral compass during the time boris johnson leading the party. >> he is walking a tricky tightrope. what we do not know is whether they will -- there will be a vote at the end. >> it may be in the next hour or two. essentially, that is because the cork of parliamentary procedures. after a debate ins, the speaker will say, who is in favor? if everyone say i, there does not need to be a vote. if one or two people say no, that would be when we get the test of the extent to which the conservative party confined -- can find in itself, we will condemn boris johnson. >> there will be conservative mps that do not want a vote because they do not want to put their cards on the table, because it is controversial potentially. >> some still like boris
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johnson. others, absolutely because they are somewhat fearful some of the activists in their own local conservative parties think, good old boris and think he s been stitched up. there is a lot of awful conservative mps praying this goes away without a vote. >> what this is not a question of if this vote will be approved by parliament. >> parliament will approve this report. it is a grim day for boris johnson. this is a key part of his disgrace and downfall. >> thank you. that debate continues. we are not sure how much longer it continues for. we are not sure if there is going to be a vote at the end. we are sure parliamentary privileges report will be approved by parliament. >> thank you for keeping an eye on that for us. we will come back to you when something happens. in the u.k. come the opposition
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leader has been laying out labor's energy policies should it when power at the next election. they would include a ban on new oil and gas exploration, more reliance on green energy including onshore wind and the setting up of a new governmentacked company, gb energy, which he revealed today would be based in scotland. from where james cook reports. >> everything about oil and gas is big. for half a century, the north sea has made money by the battle and pumped out vast quantities of rain house gases. the beacon production has long passed, and labor says the era of exploration must now in. >> our next prime minister. >> alongside the scottish labor leader, he punished to ensure green info structure was built in britain, benefiting workers. >> the moment for decisive action is now.
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if we wait until north sea oil and gas runs out, the opportunities this change can bring for scotland and your community will pass us by. that would be a historic state. >> oil industry bosses and trade unions appear to be united in opposition to your plans, warning they would chill investment a cost jobs. doesn't that worry you? >> when i look back at what happened with the coal mining communities and look at the mistakes that were made then, not planning for the future, not having the courage to say the change was necessary, not leading your nation through that change, i resolved we will never repeat that under a labor government. we will plan for that change. >> the conservatives agree u.k. must bring down emissions, but say labor is abandoning the north sea. it is a broad agreement society needs to move away from this stuff, oil and gas, to renewable energy. it is this -- this agreement of
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the pace and scale of that transition, some people worry the u.k. is going to be left between the amount of energy it produces and the amount it uses. >> if we ban it, it will create the cliff edge we want to avoid. if we can oil and gas licenses, it will undermine the people that work in the sector. if we ban new licenses, it will undermine our energy security while war is raging in ukraine. >> will this policy cost jobs? >> in the short term, if we choose to undermine the oil and gas sector, it will cost jobs. >> environmentalis went labor to revoke any new exploration licenses granted between now and the election. >> it is disappointing that he has not been firmer on new projects such as rosebank and can vote, science is clear there isfor any new fossil fuel infrastructure. that means any new projects in
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the north sea cannot be allowed to go ahead. >> labor does one to make it easier for windfarms, like this one, to go ahead in england. that is controversial. change on this scale is not easy. >> you have seen him then, james's report. let's get more reaction from chief executive officer at offshore energy's u.k., david whitehouse. david, lay out your assessment of how feasible this plan by labor is. >> i was in the audience today, listening to the team. i think the ambition labor has, i think the people would support. why support a sector that is absolutely committed to net zero, committed to doing the right thing for the environment. i think in order for this to be successful, what labor needs to realize, it cannot be all oil
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and gas on one side versus renewables. it has to be we are in an economy where 75% of our energy comes from oil and gas, embrace oil, gas and renewables. >> we have heard in that piece, it mentioned that there is agreement rightly we need to make a move away from oil and gas. it is the speed and scale that is the issue. is that your position? is this about the speed and scale particularly in the north sea? >> i do not think it is. i think people except we need to move quickly to new forms of energy. the truth is, the transition is going to take a number of years. keystone said it is going to take until 2050 into beyond. we would like this to go as fast as possible. 75% of our energy today comes from oil and gas. we are lucky enough domestically we produce about hf of that. it is clear while we need oil and gas, why wouldn't we produce
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it ourselves to mystically? -- domestically? it protects energy security and war wages in ukraine. it makes the economy richer, it gives us the people and the investment to try that new energy future. >> the argument others are making is that this is a process that cannot be delayed anymore, there needs to be investment into renewable energy. he said 50,000 new jobs would be created in scotland. what do you think of this move? what are the potential consequences in terms of investment, but also energy shortages moving away from production in the north sea? >> there is no argument from the sector that we need to move quickly, there is no art event. our argument is, do not undermine the industry we need today. all that will mean is we are
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importing oil and gas from countries that do not have the same climate goals we have, it means undermining the jobs and skills that we need. all of this uncertainty being created unnecessarily is undermining people's confidence to invest. for us to be successful in this energyransition, we need to invest in 1.4 trillion pounds from the private sector, that is going to come from many companies that i represent. this policy undermines that. the message is clear to labor, build on our industrial strength. built on the strength of people we already have in this country, please do not undermine it. >> thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us, david whitehouse from offshore engies u.k. we will turn now to another breaking story we are following. u.s. coast guard have launched a search and rescue operation after a submersible used to take tourists to view the wreck of
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the titanic went missing in the atlantic ocean. it is believed among those on board as the british billionaire adventurous and chairman of private plane firm action aviation. he posted on social media over the weekend, saying diane proud to finally an outside joint ocean gate expeditions for their rms titanic mission as a missions specialist on the sub going down to the titanic. he went on to say that despite overly cold temperatures, the weather window has opened up and we are going to attempt a dive tomorrow. the coast guard heads -- has told an investigation is underway. the operator is a company called ocean gate expeditions. the wreck is around 370 miles off the coast of newfoundland in canada. the titanic, which you can see here in a cgi recreation, sink in 1912. more than 1500 lives were lost. small submersibles occasionally
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take tourists who can pay tens of thousands of dollars to visit the wreck. let's go live to the cbs correspondent who has been on the submarine. i believe you went last year. fascinating report. you mentioned in your report that this is pretty much the only submersible in the world that can carry five people and go to the depths of the titanic. tell us about your experience on it. >> it is a one-of-a-kind summer civil, five inch thick carbon fiber. i have to admit, i had qualms getting on that thing. aot of the components are off the shelf, improvised. for example, you steer the sub with a xbox game controller. some of the ballots are abandoned pipes sitting on the sides of the shelves. the way you detach is you get everybody on board to lean to one side of the sub and they roll off.
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the ceo and inventor of the sub reassured me that all of that stuff might be a little improvised, but the part you care about, the capsule that contains people in oxygen, was codesigned with nasa and the university of washington and it is rock solid. >> when he went down there, was it explained what would happen or what the procedure was if there were to be an incident? >> yes. this thing has seven different ways to rise to the surface again. three different kinds of ballots, airbags, propellers that can push it up, they can jet us into legs of the sub if they need to release weight. the fact they are not back to the surface is really concerning. it means all seven of those things have either failed or are irrelevant. for example, if the sub got snagged in one of those miles long, abandoned fishing nets,
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there is no recovery. or, if there is a leak, there is no recovery. i do wonder what is happening. >> that is why a lot of people are concerned. was there a rescue process you were made aware of? there is no gps at the depths this vessel would be at. >> gps does not work underwater, and radio does not work underwater. when the support ship is directly over the sub, it can send short text messages back and forth. clearly, those are no longer getting a response. there is literally no way to communicate with the sub at this point and no way to know where it is. the passengers are sealed inside by 17 bolts applied from the outside, so there is no way to escape. even if you rise to the surface by yourself, you cannot get out of the sub without a crew on the outside letting you out.
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no, there is no backup, there is no escape pod. it is, get to the surface or die. >> that is a scary thought. what sort of safety equipment was there on board? you mentioned there is no commune occasion, so there were no transponders, even. >> last year during the expedition i joined, i was in the control room on the ship at one point when the sub was down at the titanic. theitanic, the sub got lost, much as it did today. they did not know where it was for three hours. it does happen. they have a fire extinguisher. they have five days worth of oxygen. they have a tiny toilet, which is basically ziploc bags. they bring snacks. that is it. there is no other emergency equipment that would be useful at those depths. >> wow. you have painted such a clear
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picture for us. we can only hope the best for those on the summary. thank you, i know we have interrupted your holiday to get this interview. it was great to get your views. david, who was on this submarine last year. around the world and across the u.k., this is bbc news. let's take a look now at some of the other stories that are making headlines today. a typical two year fixed mortgage deal in the u.k. has an interest rate of more than 6% for the first time since december. mortgage lenders have been putting up rates and pulling deals at a rapid rate in sent weeks, driving up costs for homeowners seeking new deals. bbc investigation has found one in four people taking an antidepressant in england has been on the medication for the last five years. that is despite only women in evidence of the benefits of taking the drugs for that level of time. or than eight million people e
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on antidepressants in england. that is one million more than five years ago. the former prime minister david cameron has told the official covert inquiry is government spent too much time preparing for a flu pandemic rather than other types of respiratory disease. mr. cameron accepted many consequences followed on focusing on flu instead of a possible coronavirus pandemic. the british medical association claims cameron's austerity left the u.k. unprepared. you are live with bbc news, this is the context. the u.s. secretary of state antony lincoln says he has had candid, substantial and constructive discussions during his two-day visit to china. mr. blink and echoed comments by the chinese president xi jinping that both sides had agreed on the need to stabilize their relationship. he said he was clear right about vast disagreements and both sides have restated their essential positions, including on human rights and taiwan.
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the chinese president told mr. blink and beijing did not seek to cllenge or displace the u.s. knew i -- new >> and terms of those objectives we have set for this trip establishing open communications channels, directly raising issues of concern, exploring cooperation in places where it is our mutual interest to do so. we did all of that on this trip. but, progress is hard. it tes time and it is not the progress -- product of one trip, one conversation. i hope the expectation is, we will have better communications, better engagement going forward. that is not going to solve every problem between us, far from it. but, it is critical to doing what we both agree is necessary. that is this possibly managing the relationship. >> those were secretary blink and comments --secretary
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blinken's comments. thanks for joining us. this was a intense meeting between mr. blinken and xi jinping. every -- almost every word was scripted. tell us what you think, how would you describe the relationship between the two countries at the moment this meeting happened? >> i think what you heard tony lincoln say -- tony blinken say is that tensions were rising in this dangerous way between the u.s. and china. his mission to beijing was meant to try to stabilize those tensions. clearly, the chinese invitation showed things were getting out of hand. i guess the question now is, we have stabilized things. it seems like there is going to be normal, diplomatic interactions. can there be some kind of meeting of the minds that can make this stabilization more
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sustainable over the long term? we have not really heard -- this was the first trip secretary of state had not been to china in five years, but we had not heard how it is that they are going to find a new balance and the relationship or make progress that can serve as a basis for more sustained, productive interaction. >> despite that, president xi said they had made progress. what does that mean exactly? >> i think it is important that this diplomatic cadence starts. i think there will be a number of visits we will see coming on different subjects. it gives the prospect for sitting down and working through some problem. diplomacy usually takes a long time. you do not just go in for one meeting and solve problems, these things always are drawn out as each side listens to the other and each side tries to explain what they are doing. there is a lot of suspicion on
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both sides. i think what this visit did is it helped relay suspicions built up over the lasperiod of time when we had not been talking. >> we have seen billionaires like elon musk and bill gates, they have been visiting china in recent times even though the secretary of state has not been there in so long. what does that say to you about the relationship between the two countries? >> i think it says it is complicated. secretary blinken is in charge of diplomacy and security issues , very tough issues like taiwan that we have major disagreements over and over which you have seen a lot of tensions in the recent period. we have traded more with china last year than ever before. the people going to china, like you mentioned, elon musk, bill gates, they have substantial interest in factories and is this is operating in china. they are selling a lot of to
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chinese people. it is a hugely important market for u.s. business people. i think through this meeting, you see there are a balance of issues that need to be handled through diplomacy. if we do not talk, things get unmanageable. >> certainly underlines that point, that this is a complex and yet very important relationship. susan, thank you very much. senior fellow at the yale law school. let's show you pictures from the house of commons and the u.k. mps are debating a report which found boris johnson deliberately misled mps over parties in lockdown. we have been hearing from mps. they continue to speak. we do not know yet if there will be enough of a position to force a vote at the end of this or if mps will simply nod the report through. we are watching proceedings and will bring you the latest as it
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comes in. a handful of former mps -- former prime minister boris johnson supporters have spoken out against the report, but a significant number of mps from his party have turned up to show theirupport. we will bring you more on that and much more. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪
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