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narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. announcer: and now, "bbc news". nancy: you are watching "the context" on bbc news. >> this is a search and rescue mission. we are smack dab in the middle of search-and-rescue and we will continue to put every available asset we have in an effort to find the titan and the crewmembers. >> we need to have hope. i cannot tell you what the noises are. this is the most important point, you are searching where the noises are.
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>> there will be constant planning and predicting going on around numerous scenarios about where this vessel is into tomorrow morning that we may be at the end of the 96 hour window. nancy: hello, welcome to the program. rescue teams in the north atlantic are putting all available resources into the search for the missing submersible which has less than 20 hours of oxygen left. also, more worrying economic data for k. ination at the rate of which prices are rising did not fall last month as expected which has led to many expecting the bank of england to raise interest rates again tomorrow, keeping more pressure on many people
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with mortgages and loans. president zelenskyy tells bbc the battle to defearussia is not a hollywood film. while things are moving slowly, ukraine's counteroffensive will be successful. bbc uncovers evidence a hundreds of sick and injured people from the end rush generation were wrongly reported deported from the u.k. and returned to the caribbean. five people are trapped inside a submersible after they went to sing sunday morning -- went missing sday morning in a underwater vessel. the coast guard officials say hearing these signals has raised hope. the ships and aircraft have a vast area to search. the submarine arrived here sunday and began its dive to the titanic right at 8:00 a.m. less than two hours later, the contact was lost.
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they should have been underwater for more -- no more than five hours. the space they are in is no bigger than a transit van. we heard more from the boston postcardbout those noises. >> when you are in the middle of a search-and-rescue case, you always have hope. with respect to the noises, we do not know what they are to be frank. the p3 detected noises which is why they are up there, doing what they are doing, and put sonar buoys in the water. we are searching in the area where the noises are detected and will continue to deduce though. we hope that when you are able to get additional our ovi -- rovs, you will be able to put additional ones in the place where the search initially took place. nancy: that is where we heard
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from the coast guard earlier. mike harley -- my colleague carl is there. bring this up to speed with the latest. carl: we heard the press conference earlier today and there is information about the noises that were detected. this was yesterday, tuesday and into wednesday morning. noises were detected by canadian officials from sonar nuoys -- buoys. they do not know what the sounds are and where they are coming from but it is getting them. the sound samples are being sent to experts at the u.s. navy to analyze. they are rushing to figure out what the noises may be and if they match any patterns from humans or from the vessel that has gone missing. as we heard from the press conference, they have deployed
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remote operated vehicles that are underwater drones and are conducting the srch there area given the time constraints left, less than 20 hours left of air, it is crucial that the search teams have a focal point. they now have somewhere to search. the search area expendednd yesterdaas now twice the size of connecticut. having some point where they can redeploy and put their resources is very crucial. nancy: as you say, the search area have been narrowed down because the protocol and why there is hope with your noises is that the people in the submarine would have known too on it every0 minutes for three minutes and that is a sign of distress. that is why there is hope. but how much is it changing the search operation that they have an area to focus on based on the sound signals carl: search
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efforts in addressing efforts are expanding by the hour. you heard of multiple ships heading out to see. there are currently five vessels in the area which will link these by 10 more in the coming hours. there are more rovs on the way. given the size of this vessel that is 21 or 22 feet long, they are searching for a needle in a haystack. adding a idea of where to begin to search is crucial. this is a big expense they are searching and there are ocean currents that could take the vessel in one direction or another. they are looking to see if it may have emerged from the f's and begun to float in -- emerge from the depths and begun to float in one area. being able to pinpoint one area is crucial. it is giving some form of hope
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the search team. nancy: thank you very much. carl in boston. in the last half hour, we also heard from sherman and cofounder of verizon maritime services which operates the mother ship that carried the submersible before its dissent on sunday. >> our critical role remains in support capacity. it is critical for the crew d families aboard the titan and the polar prints. the captain and crew have been steadfast in providing support during this time. we have been supporting titanic expeditions for several years. the polar prints remains at the titanic site, participating in efforts. we are aware of the time sensitivity around this mission. our teens are experts in the field and will continue to support this in any way you can. remain focused to contribute to
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the source of the titan and crew and continue to hold hope they will be road located -- be relocated and brought to safety. i think you are aware that communication ceased. nancy: that is the chairman and cofounder of verizon maritime services which operates the mothership -- of horizon maritime services which operates the mothership. you were at this press conference listening in and trying to ask questions. this ishe first time you're hearing from this company but how much did you get from this? reporter: this is the first time we have -- they have spoken to the submersible went missing. the chairman, also accompanied by chief michael joe, who was the first to work. when they came out, they looked really nervous.
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they rent out a statement and appeared very emotional. the search is taking a huge toll on everyone involv. they are in close contact with the families. you have to press pack a all of this you're crowded to ask lots of lessons. one of the main questions we certainly wanted to a was, part of the families on board? are they involved in the search? would not answer that but said the dailies are the supported and so are the crews. it has been nearly three days or more than that that they have been hearing out the search. the other key question is this delay. just a reminder, you said the polar prints transport of the vessel to the diving area. it was one hour and 40 minutes intohe two hour dive that all contact was lost but there was a delay of four hours and 2 minutes of when the coast guard was informed by the polar prince
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. questions are being asked about why would there was such a long delay. but he was very adamant in the way he answered. he said "all protocols were followed." the other question was about the relationship the company has with oceangate. they leased polar prince to oceangate and there are questions being asked about safety concerns regarding the tin and questions that oceangate are facing over that. you put this to mr. lead and he said they were proud to work with oceangate. he did not give away too many details. the main thing we did get from him is the families are being well supported. the crews are being well supported and they, like all the rescues, consider this still a search-and-rescue operation. nancy: that is a crucial point. thank you very much for the update.
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we can now talk to butch hendrick, the president and founder of lifeguard systems. he has been training water rescue and dive teams on how to find submerged bodies and evidence for decades. thank you for sharing your expertise. many of us, who are not familiar with the ins and outs of this operation, will be wondering, why is it so difficult to find this submersible? maybe you could lay out a few points. butch: first of all, they began with a surface search as soon as they possibly could get there. that obviously came up with nothing to be foun those pilots and crews are very good at searching for small items at the surface for disasters. next is the fact it is 12,500 feet below the water. you have to have a physical
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object or side scan sonar capability to be able to search within at least 500 feet of the bottom. these are areas we have never had to work in before. nancy: that does bring to mind just how difficult it is because of the location. some might also wonder why there is no -- why there is nothing on the submarine that could transmit its location. is that normal practice? butch: i cannot say if that is normal or not but it will certainly be unusual. there should have en some sort of transponder that would have emergency sent out a signal continuously for at least 100 hours saying here i am. a beacon that our military, coast guard, and fishing vessels would have been able to make contact with that said you are receiving a signal, here is the
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general area. closer to a mile not 700 miles by 700 miles. nancy: we heard from the coast guard that the search area is now twice the size of connecticut, more than 5000 square miles. can you explain why it is so large if the submersible went down in a specific spot? because it is not a subrine and is not autonomous, why would it be able to move within such a wide area yet? witch: what the coast guard would have been doing in dealey upon arrival -- butch: what the coast guard would have been due upon arrival is looking at the weather conditions and currents. if the submersible never made it to the bottom and became semi-disabled at 10,000 feet, it is now subject to traveling water. with that process, and looking at these eight of the current,
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the time tt -- the unit of the current, the time it has been lost, it could have traveled 400 miles. if you are looking at current that is one not, it would tell you it is traveling 100 feet every minute. if the current is six to eight nauts, it is moving 600 feet every minute. they figured out a pting out their own transponder buoys what the person is doing, how it is travelg, how it backfields. they are searching every part of the area they personally can base on the currents where a saving boy and -- a semi-buoyant object could have traveled. nancy: that helps our understanding area and as an act, you of hope training and
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carry out -- you have helped with training and carrying out rescues of this kind. butch: none of us have done anything like this. we are looking or human bodies normally in less than 500 feet of water. here, to move a five scan sonar unit, they have to have a minimum of 15,000 foot of cable. it is 12,500 feet below the surface and cannot simply be straight down. it has to be at an angle. our submersible is here. in order for side scan sonar to it, it has to track for an ankle. they are looking at a minimum of 15,000 feet of cable. how do you toe that and keep it 100 feet off the bottom and stop entanglement problems? nancy: that brings home what a
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complicated and extraordinary mission this is. thank you for sharing your expertise. butch is the president and founder of lifeguard systems. around the world and across the cake, this is the news. we will take a story -- look at stories making headlines. two people have been wounded in a stabbing incident outside west ex hospital in london. one of the victims is being treated for life-threatening injuries. one of the -- the hospital was temporarily locked down but has reopened with a heightened police presence. the chancellor, jeremy hunt, who served as the health secretary between 2012 and 2018, told the covert inquiry that during the pandemic, it was assumed the u.k. would be able to handle a
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pandemic but the threat was the flu virus. ticketholder back to tuesday's 50 pounds million -- 50 million pounds jackpot. the winner is a single ticketholder and they are set to become wealthier than england striker. katie. that is quite a win for them. you are live with bbc news. this is the context. the latest u.k. figures have offered no rest by for those struggling with certain figures with prices rising, remain stable in may. it was offset by rises in cost of goods, such as computer games and plane tickets. economists have been trying to predict what happens next. one particularly concerning assessment came on bbc radio from karen ord, chief market strategist at j.p. morgan. >> our economy is running too
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hot. the difficulty for the bank of england is they have to create a recession. they have to create uncertainty and frailty because it is only when companies feel nervous about the future that they will think, maybe i will not put through the price rise. or workers, when they are less confident about that job, think they will not push for higher pay. it is weakness in activity that gets rid of an action. nancy: let's talk about this more with jamie rush, chief european economist for bloomberg. is she right? what you just heard there? is some deaconess what the economy needs? jamie: she is. it is what the bank of england went out to achieve. they have raised interest rates in the idea of getting the economy to slow down. when the economy slows, unemployment goes up.
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people worry more and are less likely to push for a big wage increase. it is true that a lot of the inflation problem will go away of its own accord. as headline inflation falls back at the energy shocks we have seen passes through the statistics, people feel less motivated to push for higher wage gains and some stuff will gradually hand over the coming six -- gradually and day over the coming six months to a year. nancy: can you explain what you mean by headline inflation? >> headline inflation is the average things revived. as economists, we also look at other measures of inflation like core inflation which is related to things we produce in the country rather than importing without energy and food in it. that is something that has gone up. core inflation has gone up significantly over the past few months.
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it surprised the bank of england and is something they will be able to do something about. that is one thing that worries them. this measure of inflation that captures the cost. it has continued to rise and they will set interest rates if it starts to come back down. nancy: on the point of core inflation, why is it that in the k, it -- in the u.k., it continues to rise? given you heard from federal chair jerome powell talking about their inflation. it is cooling off. it is not where they would like it to beebe it is nowhere near what the u.k. -- like it to be but it is nowhere near what the u.k. has. jamie: if you look at the u.k., you have a -- energy costs of
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driven inflation high and because the labor market is tighter than the u.s., things interact to prolong and exasperate inflation. nancy: in terms of the rising interest rates in the hay, people are concerned about mortgages -- in the u.k., people are concerned about mortgages. is this the only way that pple can feel the pain briefly to get through this? jamie: i think it is probably getting to 6% that you are running into the possibility of a tipping point when the economy really starts to tank. you do not know when you reach these until you get there. nancy: i am sure lots of people would agree that is enough pain for now. jamie rush, joining us from bloomberg. in the u.k., dozens of well-known companies have been named for failing to pay the memo wage. an investigation looking at payments of the past 16 years found almost 5 million pounds
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was owed to 63,000 workers. three of the major companies set the breaches were unintentional and had already been remedied. currently, minimum wage for anyone aged 23 or over is 10 pounds $.42 around13.29. this is a firm specializing in unemployment law. thank you for joining us. when companies say this was unintentional, what does that mean? how did this happen? >> the national wage is accompanied by a series of case law and guidances. by hmrc. calculating minimum wage can be taught that's fraught because it does not just represent an hourly -- can be fraught because it does not just reprent an
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hourly wage but can be troubling. it may be the amount can be reduced by factors like the individual having to pay for a unit arm. that is one factor that one of the companies said led to them paying less than the national minimum wage. they did not understand what the legislation says or what the hmrc guidance says. they say it is a mistake and they rectified it. the process of enforcement and this naming and shaming regime is a less enforcement notice that is appealed will be reversible. they will be named and shamed even if it is an error. becaus an error is not an. nancy: what reputational damage does this cause for a company?
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>> it is significant. the idea of a national wage is not only to help overpaid workers but to encourage employment. if you are looking at an employer that has a reputation for not paying minimum wage or getting it wrong, you might be reluctant to work for their employer. as a customer, you may be reluctant to buy from them. the name and shame is what happens no matter what the reason is for the failure to pay the national minimum wage. it is intended to make employers think carefully about calculating the national minimum wage and getting it right. if you don't get it right, you get named and shamed. that is whether it is a technical error, a misunderstanding of the way the legislation is set out, or a mis-interpretation. nancy: what about employees?
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what can they do if they realize or think they are not being paid according to the minimum wage? >> reference to hmrc can be made by employees employees or third parties can trigger the investigation process which ends up in the naming and shaming reports. that is one process to follow. the other thing employees can do is make simple claims. you can make a claim for unlawful deduction from wages. you can make a claim for breach of contract. you can potentially make a claim for unfair dismissal. what employees need to be very aware of is these claims have gotten limitation. . you have to initiate your complaint within three months if it is under deduction from wages or if it is an unfairness this'll complaint. it is very important to be aware
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of this if you want to take action. nancy: valle. thank you for talking is through that. we are watching for all the latest on the search for the titanic submarine. the search has widened. the area is now twice the size of connecticut, more than 5000 narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financiaservices firm, raymond james. man: bdo. accountants and advisors. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. and by contributions to this pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ ♪
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