wow, you get to watch all your favorite stuff. it's to die for. now you won't miss a thing. this is the way. the xfinity 10g network. made for streaming. geoff: good evening. i'm geoff bennett. amna: and i am amna nawaz. on the newshour tonight, the death toll from the devastating earthquake from morocco rises further as rescue operations struggled to reach those in need. >> everything is gone. we lost the entire house. there are no officials visiting us, there is no health or aid. geoff: president biden wraps up his overseas travel to the g20 and vietnam, a trip that aimed

to shore up pacific alliances in the face of china's growing influence. amna: more than two decades after 9/11, the men accused of plotting the attacks remain in legal limbo at guantanamo bay, while p deals are negotiated. -- while plea deals are negotiated. ♪ >> major funding for the "pbs newshour" has been provided by -- ♪ >> and with the ongoing support of these individuals and institutions. and friends of the newshour, included -- including leonard and norma clorevine, and koo and patricia yuen. the william and flora hewlett foundation. for more than 50 years, advancing ideas and supporting institutions to promote a better world, at hewlett.org. ♪ and with the ongoing support of

these individuals and institutions. ♪ >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting, and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. amna: welcome to the newshour. the aftershocks of the deadly earthquake that hit morocco friday night continued today as the death toll approached 3,000. that number is expected to rise further, along with the number of injured. geoff: the rescue and recovery operations continue tonight, but at ace lopez. that is a source of frustration

and anger for many moroccans who say their government is not doing enough. special correspondent alex kadeyay reports from marrakesh. alex: for a second night since the quake, crowds of displaced people crammed into the space in marrakech. . left homeless by the 6.8 magnitude tremor, the worst since 1960, and with only blankets to keep them warm. survivors waited out aftershocks for aid to arrive. >> we need help, because every family here don't have their house. every house here is broken. alex: i morning, the scope of damage in plain view. narrow alleyways in the unit -- innate unesco relative site, reduced to rumble. the earthquake's epicenter was south of marrakech in the remote province. counts nestled deep in the mountains with homes built mostly from mud bricks, completely collapsed. this person recalled the

terrible moment the quake struck, destroying his home and killing his son, just eight years old. >> were having dinner. i asked my son to bring a knife from the kitchen to cut dessert. he didn't bring it because as soon as he left the kitchen, the earthquake struck. he ran here where you can see rubble. he was buried in two meters of rubble. alex: these villagers, rescue efforts are agonizingly slow. access roads blocked by landslides make the task of reaching these remote areas even more daunting. with no heavy equipment, some took matters into their own hands. mohamed described how he rescued his sister immediately after the quake. >> we did not have tools. so we used our hands. her head was visible, so we kept digging. alex: many locals have been moved to an cap men's nearby. >> now, we need tents for people to stay in. we need altars for women and children because people are sleeping outdoors. alex: entire families sleeping rough, while fearing aftershocks

and worried about their uncertain future. over the past few days, rescuers have raced into the hardest hit areas to help. at times, pulling bodies from underneath mounds of broken bricks. and meticulously listening for signs of life buried in the rubble. with many still in need of aid, some have criticized morocco's response to this historic disaster. today, the prime minister vowed to compensate those affected by the earthquake. but the government has refused to accept foreign aid from all but four countries. qatar, united kingdom, spain, and the united garments -- united emirates. crews have finally made it to some remote villages after painstaking delays. >> it is very remote, and it took us about eight hours to get here. there were no rescue groups. and we arrived with the police. the destruction is absolute. all the buildings have collapsed. alex: as aid trickles in, the

official death toll is expected to rise, and the extent of destruction clearer. for now, survivors have no choice but to wait as they grapple with what they have lost. >> everything is gone. we lost everything. we lost the entire house. there are no officials visiting us. there is no health or aid. this is the will of god. alex: for the pbs newshour, i am alex in marrakech, morocco. ♪ amna: in the day's other headlines, catastrophic flooding from a powerful storm has hit eastern libya. the red cross reports at least 150 people have been killed, and one of the country's rival prime ministers says up to 2,000 may be dead. images from the city of derna today showed widespread devastation with floods and mudslides sweeping away entire neighborhoods.

officials said 5,000 people may be missing. the same storm flooded parts of greece, turkey and bulgaria last week. here at home, the nation marked 22 years since the attacks of september 11th. for many americans, it was a day for solemn ceremonies and sometimes tearful remembrances. laura barron-lopez has our report. laura: the horrors of that september day in 2001 remembered on this 22nd anniversary. >> officer, third class, jamie and fallin. laura: nearly 3,000 people died when planes hijacked by al-qaeda terrorists crashed into new york's world trade center, the pentagon, and a rural pennsylvania field, making it the deadliest terror attack on u.s. soil. >> i lost my dad here. it never gets easy. it's the same thing all over again. it hurts. laura: vice president kamala

harris was among those who gathered to pay their respects at ground zero in manhattan. keeping with tradition, family members read the names of the dead aloud. >> i needed to be here. laura: brian macleod, a former new york city police officer, returned to the site for the first time in more than two decades. >> i have not stepped foot on the grounds since october of 2001. laura: in arlington, virginia, crews unfurled a giant american flag. a ceremony paid tribute to the 184 lives lost when one of the hijacked planes smashed into the pentagon. >> president joe biden. reporter: en route back to washington from vietnam, president biden stopped in anchorage, alaska to mark the solemn anniversary with u.s. troops and their families. pres. biden: the soul of america is the fortitude we found in the fear of that terrible september day. the purpose we found in our

pain. the light we found in our darkest hour. an hour when terrorists believed they could bring us to our knees, bend our will, break our resolve, but they were wrong. they were dead wrong. laura: and in shanksville, pennsylvania, a memorial service where another hijacked jet crashed after passengers tried to storm the cockpit. for the pbs newshour, i am laura barron-lopez. amna: officials in new york recently identified two more victims from the attack at ground zero. but remains of 1,100 other victims at the site have never been identified. iran and the u.s. moved one step closer to a long-awaited prisoner swap. the associated press reports the biden adminstration has approved letting international banks transfer $6 billion dollars in frozen iranian funds from south korea to qatar. the money is to pay for humanitarian goods. that could clear the way for iran to release five american prisoners, while the u.s. frees five iranians.

north korean leader kim jong-un is headed to russia tonight for talks with president vladimir putin. both countries have confirmed the trip, and a train similar to kim's was spotted today, approaching north korea's border with russia. the meeting could come in vladivostok, with putin trying to obtain weapons for the war in ukraine. u.s. officials said it shows he is desperate. >> for think there is no better evidence of that, bill only has he failed to achieve his goals on the battlefield, that you see him traveling across his own country to beg kim jong-un for military assistance. amna: in return for weapons, pressure could supply north korea with energy and food aid, plus advanced technology for its missiles, submarines and satellites. ukraine's military says it has recaptured several oil platforms in the black sea near russian-occupied crimea. government video today showed troops approaching a rig and later, hauling away military

equipment. at one point, they also fired machine guns at a russian jet overhead. kyiv says the russians had been using the platforms as military outposts. hurricane lee is still churning in the open ocean tonight, north of the caribbean. the storm is slowly moving northwest, but it's not expected to make landfall anywhere soon, and whether it veers towards the u.s. and canada is unclear. meantime, arizona may finally get a break from extreme heat. phoenix has had 55 days this year of temperatures over 110 degrees, but readings are expected to drop slightly this week. the food and drug adminstration today approved new boosters for covid-19 vaccines by pfizer and moderna. they're aimed at curbing the latest variants, and they're cleared for adults and children as young as six months. the cdc is expected to approve the shots tomorrow, and they could be available later this week. former president donald trump's lawyers are asking the federal judge presiding over his

election subversion case to recuse herself. a motion filed today says her past public statements about mr. trump and his connection to the january 6 capital right call into question whether she can be fair. on wall street, big tech stocks led the broader market higher, partly over enthusiasm about artificial intelligence. the dow jones industrial average gained 87 points to close at 34,663. the nasdaq rose 156 points, 1%. the s&p 500 added 30 points. and the british scientist who pioneered cloning animals has died. ian wilmut passed away sunday in scotland after a long illness. his team gave the world dolly the sheep in 1996, cloned from an adult sheep. dolly lived for six years. wilmut later focused on cloning human stem cells to help regenerate damaged tissue. ian wilmut was 79 years old. still to come on the newshour,

google heads to court for the first major monopoly trial in the modern internet age. tamara keith and amy walter break down the latest political headlines. a new sound innovation promises to change how people experience music and movies. plus much more. >> this is the pbs newshour from weta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. geoff: president joe biden just wrapped a whirlwind trip to asia. first to new delhi where he met with leaders of the world's most powerful economies at the g20 summit. then, an historic trip to vietnam, his first ever. both visits are seen as a further push by the biden administration to counter china's influence in asia and the wider developing world. in hanoi, president biden announced an increased partnership with vietnam, a major relationship upgrade for

the u.s., right on beijing's store -- beijing's doorstep. but while speaking to reporters, the president cautioned this deal is not about containing china. pres. biden: that is what this trip is all about, having india cooperate more, the closer to the united states, vietnam be closer to the united states. it is not about containing china. it is about having a stable base. a stable base in the indo-pacific. geoff: to discuss the significant of his trip to vietnam and what it means for washington's beijing policy, we welcome former u.s. ambassador to vietnam, ted osius. he is now president and ceo of the us-asean business council. welcome back to the newshour. ted: thank you very much. great to be here. geoff: this partnership between the u.s. and vietnam appears to be a diplomatic win-win coming at a time when vietnam is trying to flex a degree of independence from beijing and as the u.s. is looking for friends across the indo-pacific region.

how do you view it, especially in light of the long relationship, the long tortured relationship between the u.s. and hanoi? ted: win-win is a good description of it. the comprehensive partnership was established by presidents trimmed tongue saying and barack obama 10 years ago. and what has just happened is a major milestone in that president biden and the general secretary of the communist party upgraded that relationship by two wrongs. they made it a comprehensive strategic partnership. in fact, it is comprehensive in nature and it is strategic already. i think both countries are going to benefit a great deal from deepening this partnership, from accelerating our collaboration. geoff: president biden has made clear that his intention was not to start a cold war with china. that is how he put it.

the goal is to provide global stability i building u.s. relationships throughout asia, at a time you have tensions with beijing. practically, how will china view that? might they see this as a distinction without a difference? ted: possibly. there could be some blowback from china. if you look at the broader strategy that the biden administration has adopted, they have created the quad. a group of democracies. they have created caucus, which strengthens our position and those of our allies in the region. they have assembly -- have assembled a trilateral arrangement of japan, korea, and the united states. they are working hard to strengthen partnerships and alliances throughout the region. vietnam is not a traditional ally and probably never will be. neither is india, where the president also visited. but they are partners. they are strong partners.

indonesia is another strong partner. whenever we can strengthen these partnerships, friendships, alliances, in the region, it is good for the united states. i would say it is good for the entire region. geoff: to your point, in the last five months, president biden has hosted the president of the philippines of the white house, he lavished the india prime minister with a state dinner, he has hosted his counterparts, the leaders of japan and south korea, that summit that was full of symbolism at camp david. what is the u.s. presenting as the mutual interest as he meets with these leaders? ted: with all of them, economic engagement is very high on the list. there is shared security interests as well. but they are looking beyond just traditional security concerns, and looking at how can we raise all boats? how can we achieve greater prosperity and stability in the indo-pacific?

to that point, what the president is saying is accurate. it is not all about china. if you are vietnam, you have china on your northern border, 1200 mile border with china. you fought 22 wars against china. it is a factor. the -- but if vietnam wants a close relationship with the united states because it is beneficial to its goals of achieving greater prosperity. geoff: let's talk more about that. is this approach by the administration, is it affected? their china watchers who will say this idea of countering china's influence by building strategic alliances is inherently flawed. because these countries will not want to give up their relationships with china in exchange for a relationship with the u.s. that might be more limited in scope. it might not come with the same amount of resources and support. ted: they don't have to. no one is asking them to give up

their relationship with china. in fact, vietnam's number one trading partner is china. it is also trading with us, vietnam sends more exports to the unit dates than to any other country -- to the united states than any other country. but no one is asking them to give up their relationship with china. no one is asking the indonesians to give up their relationship with china or the indians. it is to enhance the ties to the united states and other nations. now that are part of. a big trade framework the indo-pacific economic framework that is under negotiation. the united states is offering enticements, showing up at important moments in the indo-pacific. the administration has been very active in going to southeast asia, which i cover. but also very much engaged with the other countries he mentioned, india, japan, korea, and of course australia andy new

zealand -- australia and new zealand. all of this is aimed at making sure the 75 years of peace and stability we have had in the indo-pacific, with a few exceptions, is maintained. geoff: that the u.s. and vietnam have emerged as partners after one of the most brutal wars of the 20th century, is in some ways nothing short of remarkable. have less than one minute. give us a sense of how we got here. ted: a lot of people took a lot of risks. what they did was they built -- they showed respect to the vedic -- to the vietnamese, from the americans. vietnamese showed respect to the americans in terms of what was important to us. and then they built trust. and that is personal. then they started doing things together. for the last 30 years, our two countries have been doing things together. and now, we have moved beyond just doing things, the u.s. and

vietnam, but we are doing important things together throughout the region and the world. dealing with global health challenges, dealing with environmental challenges, peacekeeping. we are partners, not only looking at each other and working together, but in the region and in the world. geoff: ted osius, former u.s. ambassador to vietnam. now president and ceo of the us-asean business council. thank you for your time this evening. ted: thank you. thanks very much. ♪ amna: four months after the 9/11 attacks, the first detainees arrived at a united states military facility in guantanamo bay, cuba. more than 20 years later, 30 men are still held there. there's also a new debate over potential plea deals for five detainees accused of key roles in 9/11, including the alleged architect, khalid sheikh mohammed, complicating the decades-long effort to permanently shut down the prison.

carol rosenberg of the new york times has covered the facility since it opened and joins me now. thank you for joining us. good to see you. carol: thank you. amna: 9/11 families were notified about a possible plea deal with five detainees last month. hundreds of families and survivors and first responders have sent a letter to president biden, asking him to reject the deal. a spokesman for the group, who lost his father on 9/11, said this to politico. he set a trial. a plea deal avoids a public reckoning. and that is important issue. cannot have the greatest terrorist attack in the history of this country fade away with plea deals for the last remaining prisoners in guantanamo. ring is up to speed. where do those negotiations over possible plea deals stand? carol: the negotiation table is open. the prosecution is still offering, at least four of the five defendants, to plead guilty in exchange for at most, life in

prison. what president biden did recently is he rejected some conditions for the detainees that they had put on their pleading guilty. they wanted torture treatment guarantees and to not be held in solitary confinement. the president said he is not signing off on those, but the prosecution is still open to a plea deal. the reason why is a trial is years away. and as they explained in their letter, the plea deal would provide what they called judicial certainty. meaning a conviction that would not be subject to appeal. . it is true they would not get a year or more long trial, a prorate of witnesses. but there will be a mini trial, in which the government would present the crimes, and the defendants would have to admit to the crimes that they say the government could prove against them. i think there has been a little

bit of misunderstanding. it would not look like the trial of the century. but it would look like a fact-finding for a jury to decide whether to give them the full life in prison or less. amna: at the same time, we know not everybody feels that way about wanting to reject those plea deals. a group of children who lost their parents and grandparents on 9/11 sent a letter to president biden saying, they want plea deals. they think plea deals are the only way to get accountability and closure. there was a young woman named elizabeth miller, 28 years old, she lost her dad and this is what she told npr this month. >> my fear is that if we don't pursue plea deals and if the biden administration doesn't put their full support behind this, i am 28 years old, turning 29, i'm going to be doing this advocacy until i'm 50-plus years old. amna: if there are not plea deals, what does justice look like for the remaining detainees at guantanamo bay? carol: certainly for the 9/11

defendants, excruciating continuation of pretrial hearings, in which there is evidentiary debate and witnesses over whether the confessions the prosecutors would like to use at trial were voluntary and admissible. the defendants were not taken straight to guantanamo or straight to the united states for trial when they were arrested a year or two years after the 9/11 attacks. they were sent to cia black sites for three and four years. that time has complicated the pretrial effort. the cia does not want to give up all of the information. the defense lawyers are insisting on more details. and a judge and possibly a jury is going to have to decide which of the evidence is untainted. amna: you know these numbers better than anyone, but i will put them up for the benefit of our audience. . the population at guantanamo bay has come down, from 800 people getting into thousand, and each president has transferred folks out. president bush transferred out 540.

president obama, 200. president trump, one individual. and president biden has transferred six so far. help us understand, briefly, why is it so hard to transfer out these last remaining prisoners? carol: certainly 15 of them are not willing to give up anyways. the government, intelligence agencies and prosecutors want about 15 of them to continue to be detained as war prisoners. the others are from countries that we will not send them back to. yemen, primarily. because we think that they would become -- yemen does not provide the rehabilitation that this country insists on. they need a third country to take them in an offer to monitor them, provide them resettlement and safe haven. frankly, the biden administration has not been able to seal the deal for more than a dozen people yet. amna: nobody knows the story

better than you, nobody has covered it more consistently than you. folks have been saying for decades the facility needs to close. i wonder as you look back on the last 22 years it has been open, how do you report on it? the fact that the prison is still open to this day. carol: the nation had a choice under the barack obama administration to pick up guantanamo and move the remanence to the united states, or continue to fund and run this remote faraway prison in cuba. congress prevented the closure that would have allowed some of these war prisoners to be taken to the united states. at this point, it is getting smaller and smaller. the operation is getting smaller and smaller. and it is very easy to forget that guantanamo is there. which in effect, means it is not as much part of the national debate anymore. amna: carol rosenberg of the new york times, thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. carol: thank you. ♪

geoff: starting tomorrow, the justice department's monopoly case against google will go to trial for what's widely considered the biggest antitrust trial of the modern digital era. google is the undisputed giant when it comes to searching the web. more than 90% percent of searches start with google. the fundamental question in this trial centers on whether google stifled competition and harmed consumers by becoming the default search engine through deals with phone makers and internet browsers. we are going to preview the key arguments in this case and take a look at what's at stake with two people watching it closely. cecelia kang covers technology for the new york times. and rebecca allenworth specializes in antitrust. she is a professor at vanderbilt law school. welcome to you both. this is the biggest monopoly tech trial since the doj sued microsoft 20 years ago. what is at issue?

cecelia: at issue is whether google, which is a monopoly, whether the department will assert it has maintained its monopoly through illegal means. the justice department will argue that it did not keep its monopoly, did not cement its monopoly power through the great innovations of its search engine, but through these business deals that were exclusive contracts that made its search engine the default. effectively making it difficult to impossible to any -- for any competitive search engines to thrive. geoff: at stake in this trial is the chance for the doj to prove it can bring a successful and time anomaly case in this modern digital era. you have read the government's arguments to this point. what is their case? rebecca:rebecca: their case is that google is big, not just because it is great, but because they have cut off afternoons that their competitors would

take to get in front of consumers. namely by having exclusive dealing contracts. that under an american antitrust law could add up to a bad act, necessary in order to be found guilty of monopolization. that is one element. the other element is that you are a monopolist. geoff: how has google responded? if they own 90% of the search traffic, it is hard for them to argue they are not a monopoly. cecilia: google will focus on definitions of what the market is, and what really is search they will say, we are that bar you know ivonne that blank page with the google logo on it. but there are so many ways consumers search these days. they search for retail items on amazon, they search for songs on spotify, they search for all kinds of people and information on tiktok. they will argue the definitions of what is search is much broader and they will argue that consumers like their products,

and that these contracts, very importantly, that they have struck with apple, firefox, samsung, and other companies to make their search engine the default are actually not exclusive. they are not complete box on consumers finding other search engines. geoff: google has already faced major finds over its competitive practices in europe, and it faces a separate challenge from the doj over its advertising technology business. if google loses this case, what is the practical impact? rebecca: there is impact on google for sure. the impact i am most interested in is on antitrust law. this case most resembles the microsoft case the department of justice brought 20 years ago. i think the real quitter -- the real critical question is, has that case survived as a precedent for bringing big tech to heal? i think companies like metta and amazon will be looking closely at this case. that matters to me, law. as far as what -- what will

matter to google, the relief, if the government wins, will not be finds. likely it will be injunctive relief. they will say, if these contracts violate the antitrust laws, you can't have contracts like this. i think that could open up some competitive space for other search engines to enter. geoff: antitrust trials are long, long process. even if google is found liable at this stage, there could be another separate proceeding to determine the best outcome in terms of resolving the case. what are you watching for as this case progresses? cecilia: i am definitely watching to see whether the judge listens. and except some of the arguments on market definition. and whether these contracts that google had with these partners in business were indeed exclusionary, and anti-competitive. and therefore, violations of antitrust law. as far as what happens, the remedies, the punishment that google could face, his early to

say. these cases and what the government tried to do with microsoft two decades ago was pretty extreme. it tried to seek a breakup of microsoft. that case settled. and there was no breakup. but that is the potential. there is potential the government can ask that google stop certain business practices, and in the most extreme version, it could ask for a defense to cheer or breakup. geoff: there is the question of why now? google's competitors have long accused it of brandishing his power to suppress competitors links to travel, mass, reviews. there has been some regulatory investigations but no major action at this level. why not? rebecca: that has two parts. the first, it is a different administration. it started with the trump administration in 2020. another part of the answer is this behavior all adds up. this is another thing i'm watching for. the judge said in his decision this summer that i don't have to

look at everything altogether. i can look at each thing individually and say, does not violate antitrust laws? i think that is not the right way of looking at it. i'm curious what he means. certainly, part of the conduct that is disputed is the sum of its parts. all the things it has been doing over the last 10 years. geoff: what is your assessment? ? are we in a new era of antitrust enforcement? cecilia: absolutely. in terms of the regulatory approach this administration and the past administration has taken, as well as what we are seeing through the courts with these lawsuits. and this one that is the first to go to trial. . we are seeing a real focus on weakening the grip of big tech on the economy in certain sectors of the economy, especially on the internet. this is a new era. what the result will be will potentially have vast consequences on innovation, on how much data these companies can collect, which is the key to

their future in ai and other new technologies. this is not just about the current marketplace. this is very much about the future of technology as well. geoff: ceclilia kang covers technology for the new york times and rebecca allenworth is a professor at vanderbilt law school. my thanks to you both. rebecca: thank you. ♪ amna: as president biden returns from a trip abroad, he's facing new political headwinds at home. democratic voters are expressing concerns about his bid for a second term. and house republicans are ramping up calls for an impeachment inquiry. here to discuss is our politics monday team. that is amy walter of the cook political report with amy walter and tamara keith of npr. welcome to you both. great to see. we talk a lot about the republican side of the 2020 for

race. we will focus on the democratic side. specifically, how voters are looking at the race. i know you saw a couple questions i want to put to you from a cnn poll. the first asked, does president biden have the stamina and sharpness to serve effectively? 26% said yes, 74% said no. among the rats on that question, they are split. and they asked who should democrats nominate in 2024, 66% said to someone other than biden. at the same time, these polls are coming out, mr. biden was heading overseas. biden campaign released this ad. >> in the middle of a war zone, joe biden showed the world what america is made of. that is the quiet strength of a true leader. who does not back down to a dictator. amna: when you talked to white house sources, supporters of mr. biden, what do they say about the polls and why that at? tamara: they are pretty dismissive of the polls.

the ones who are paid to work for president biden. however, i did talk to david axelrod, a former advisor to former president obama. it was for a story i was working on, an adaptation that the biden white house has made but they are not talking about, witches that more frequently than not, president biden is taking a more stable set of stairs in and out of air force one, instead of the tolerance ceremony stairs presidents traditionally take. he has started, since he had a fall, taking the stairs, more frequently. i talked to david axelrod for that story. he said, if joe biden were 15 or 20 years younger, he would not have a worry at all about his reelection chances. becausef his policy accomplishments and what he has done as president. but he is 80 years old. david axelrod and many other democrats have these concerns. i will say about that ad, that

was an ad where it was officially about foreign policy. but that was like the political version of a built ford tough add. that was the white house message, and the official line we will hear again and again, is "watch me." that is biden's message. amna: and you hear him say that again and again. tamara: when he goes out and goes to a yoga studio and does pilates and rides a spin bike, he makes sure you know about it. amna: who is that ad for? who are they talking to? amy: a lot of it is talking to democrats. the point in the campaign where, you are the incumbent president, you are making sure you are shoring up your base. especially a base, as you pointed out, where 50% of your own voters say they think your age is an issue and have worries about this. the other thing i thought was

telling in that poll was who should democrats nominate? 66% said somebody other than biden. when you ask the follow-up, who would that be? nobody. nobody gets more than 2% or 3% in an open-ended question. which goes to the challenge for anyone who thinks, maybe i should take on joe biden. there is not somebody sitting and waiting in the wings that democrats are super excited about. what they know is what they see. and they see a man who is in his 80's who walks slowly, who has the gate of somebody who is an older person, who will sometimes go off script. that is what they see. you can't tell voters that they are not seeing what they see. amna: duty woodruff has been reporting as part of our crossroads project, sat down and observed a focus group of democratic voters in pennsylvania. take a listen to what those voters had to say. we will talk after this. >> how many of you are concerned

about joe biden's age? just you four. you are good, you think? >> you know, it's tough and i'm not going -- i will bring trump up again. you know, age wise, they're up there. but even though he's a bully, he doesn't falter, he doesn't mumble, he doesn't fall off the steps. i mean, biden does. so for me, age is never a factor unless, you know, you physically can't do something or verbally can't get across what you want to say. amna: she was drawing the difference between former president trump, who she was referring to as a bully, and president biden. what is your reaction? amy: it is what we hear from pretty much any democrat you talk to, whether it is those who privately, donors and higher ups in the party, or saying the same thing. witches, we are very concerned about this.

and i think for so many of these voters, the next question is, ok, what will you do in november of 2024? does that mean you will not support joe biden? i sat in on a different set of democratic voters earlier this summer who also were somewhat disaffected about biden for different reasons. mostly his age. they said, well, a second biden term will -- would probably be status quo. not a lot is going to happen that is necessarily good. . but nothing bad will happen. to them, it feels like, i don't really have a choice, because if we don't have biden, then we have trump. as long as trump is in the picture, the existential threat is what is more important to them than biden's age. amna: sleep -- which leads to this question of enthusiasm gap. economy means the biggest issue for most voters. here is another clip i want to get your reaction to. another from that focus group of

democratic voters in pennsylvania. >> raise your hand if you're glad joe biden's going to run in 2024. ebony, why aren't you glad that joe biden is running again? >> i feel like a lot of people voted for joe biden. they felt like he was going to do a better job than trump and he really didn't do a better job. so now it's kind of confusing, whereas like we already know what he has done now. so we don't know if he's going to like do anything to support the country because we really haven't seen a lot of change. amna: this goes to the point amy was making. there is a lack of enthusiasm. what does the white house say about that? tamara: what they say is they need more time. i apologize, my voice is giving out. they need more time to tell the president's story, for his polity -- his policies to take effect. as david axelrod talked about, he said, look, the president has

done all of these things. he has passed these bills. the challenges many of them have not taken effect. things like lowering prescription drug prices. that is a huge accomplishment, and if it makes it through legal challenges, which are outstanding, that would be a big deal for a lot of people. that would happen in 2026. they have announced the drugs they will negotiate on. . in terms of people feeling it, it is not there yet. amna: same with infrastructure. very popular. but when you ask them what is their number one concern, it is cost-of-living, day-to-day costs groceries and things like that. obviously inflation is still pinching a lot of voters. the other thing you cannot disconnect, worries about his age, and concerns about the economy, why? people know that for the next

four years, if he is president of the united states, and they don't feel like he is going to have either the mental or physical or stamina to do that job, then what happens to the economy? you can't separate the age question from the economy question. amna: how do the republican threats factor into that? amy: i think they probably help joe biden. it rallies the base more than anything else. we live in a world of negative partisanship. you may not love the person who is leading your team, but you definitely dislike the other team. if they are attacking where a person, you will rally around them. it will likely help to raise some money. and if you are one of the 18 republicans, remember, the houses up for grabs. if you are one of the 18 republicans that sits in a bite industry, do you want to go on record impeaching the person who won in your district when you already are dealing with the difficulty it is likely to be if

trump is the nominee? tamara: i interviewed chris christie who is running for president on the republican side. you can add into the chorus of people amy is talking about who say, the evidence is not there yet for impeachment. he says, keep investigating. but calling it impeachment now would be a mistake. that said, i'm not sure the president and the white house wants to endure the trauma his impeachment, and the muddying that could occur about the high road. and the contrast between trump and biden. amna: tamara keith and amy walter, thanks for breaking it down with us paired always good to see you both. amy: good to see you. tamara: good to see a. ♪ geoff: many of the major music streaming services are now offering new spatial music playlists with more immersive versions of some of your

favorite music. the new music format is called dolbyatmos music. some view it as important an innovation as the advent of stero music recordings in the 1960s. special correspondent mike cerre reports for our arts and culture series, canvas. mike: from the people who brought you sound effects surrounding you in movie theaters. comes a new music format that can move the sounds of different music instruments and vocals all around your living room, inside your car, and even inside the space between your ears. >> i think it's one of the most significant innovations, if not the most significant innovation of the last few decades in terms of music. mike: john couling heads up the entertainment division of dolby the san francisco based audio technology company. that developed the new, dolby atmos music format. now being integrated into consumer electronics products

and music streaming services. unlike stereo which combines all the music into only two audio channels, dolby atmos music can separatesisolate the various instruments and vocals come and moves them around between the two audio channels unfortunately, the newscast, like the pbs newshour, don't use dolby atmos yet. but for the benefit of our viewers, we're going to have to kind of show them what we're hearing. >> what we have here are products that you can buy. they're available in the store today. mike: okay, so we might be hearing the base here. we might be hearing the trumpet there. it will be all around you. >> absolutely. and by spreading out the sound, you get this greater experience, both of immersive news, but also clarity. mike: what's the difference if we are listening to this in a traditional stereo with two speakers? >> so when you have two speakers, you have to make all of the sound come from those two locations.

the left and the right. in a record, there's a lot of sound going on. in dolby atmos, you have much more space, so as you spread them out into different locations, it allows each of them to shine more authentic, more detailed, greater clarity of sound. mike: unlike other major audio evolutions requiring many years for creators to adopt and consumers to access, most people who bought a new cellular phone, tablet computer or tv in the past four years already have access to the dolby atmos music technology. automobile companies are adding the new technology starting with their luxury models. this mercedes is equipped with 16 speakers throughout the car. >> yes, this is a great record. it was actually record of the year at the grammys. it is in dolby at most. and what you get is you get lizzo at the front, but you get her backing vocals all around you. you have this great beat. there's a lot going on in the song, and the car really shows it off. mike: we don't even need lizzo

up front for carpal karaoke. brad wood converted his backyard garage and spare bedroom unit into one of the early dolby atlas music studios during the covid hiatus. after hearing elton john's "rocket man" for the first time in the new format. >> those guitars, they take off from behind you end up in over your head. like a rocket. i think that is a great example of a song and lyric and recording matching a technology. mike: after 40 years of first playing his own music, then recording and mixing music for bands, the art of producing music has taken on a whole new dimension, and jumpstarted his new career, re-in classic recordings. >> ♪ i'm coming out ♪ mike: like diana ross' "i'm coming out." >> you can see all of the green and yellow blobs.

those are audio tracks. some of them are stationary, some of them are moving. and they are all overhead. this is the trombone solo. and you can see it is spinning around above us in the height speakers. mike: you don't have to be in a studio with multiple speakers to hear the different instruments moving around. the effect can even be heard in your ear buds and headphones connected to any dolby atmos music capable device. >> there are times when i'm literally moving my head around with my airpods in. and turning to my right and hearing a singer or guitar coming out of the right. it is a different kind of technology because you still only have the two speaker elements in your ears. mike: according to some critics, hearing sounds from different directions can be distracting. neuroscientist and musician dr. daniel levitin believes it

depends more on the nature of the sound and how the technology is used. >> if there was something outside of our field of vision, a sudden loud noise that's called the startle response. depending on the noise we might jump, we might turn around. but if they've been there all along as part of the musical piece, just like a humming refrigerator coming from the other room, you habituate to them and they're not alarming. mike: for the walkman and ipod generation that traded sound quality for music convenience, the clarity of this new format can be more pronounced. and for those of us still hoarding our vinyl records for a richer sound than traditional digital and streaming formats, it is like listening in to the dark side of the moon. for the pbs newshour, i am mike saray in los angeles. ♪ amna: hope boykin and teri

ayanna wright bring together pros and dance. boykin is a choreographer and writer, and wright dances her interpretation. tonight, they share their brief but spectacular take on creating their own paths. >> as a choreographer and a writer, i have found that i would like to make my movement look less abstract. so i write text, give spoken word to really display and, and unpack what i'm feeling. >> and i think as the dancer, it's my job to just bring all of that to life, to the best of my ability. >> i don't need to be like them. those because my faith, my lane, my oh is my, is my, is my own. i made a piece called journey. journey takes you on a journey of what it's been like to walk

down my own path. and teri's body is the vessel. teri is the artist that does the translation as you hear me speak. >> the most significant part of performing journey is how much i can relate to it, not only as a performer, but as a woman. it is my journey just as much as it is hope's. >> to struggle to balance to my own, to hold my own, to wait to rest, to be still, and know. it's a duet, really. my voice and her body work together to explain that our path is our own. literally in this tempo of slowness of thick quality to let you know that the way we move, the way we've been working has been tough. but we can't compare our work to anyone else's work. we can't compare our lives to anyone else's life. it has been wor-worth every

single effort. mine, and mine alone. this journey, my journey is not yours. once we realize that our path is our own, our journey is our own, then we really can find true joy, true success, true understanding and meaning in the work that we do. and it gives us ownership over that. my name is hope boykin >> and i am teri ayanna wright. >> and this is our brief but spectacular take on creating our own path. amna: you can watch more brief but spectacular videos online at pbs.org/newshour/brief. geoff: join us again tomorrow night for a look at what you need to know about the new covid booster that could become available i the end of this

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