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narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. announcer: and now, "bbc news". >> hello, i am sarah campbell. you are watching "the context" on bbc news. >> this clear up, people are having to do it by themselves. the house at the top of the street was struck. five of the six have been killed, only the father has survived. >> we are staying in the streets. i feel bad for myself. his dad passed away but i have to take care of him. >> these are individual people who have individually lost their
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house, their father, mother, their children. i met one woman whose child is still buried underneath the rubble. ♪ sarah: international emergency workers join in the recovery effort from morocco's devastating earthquake. but survivors say the government is not responding quickly enough. nearly 2900 people are so far known to have died. we will have the latest. also, the u.k. prime minister rishi sunak accuses china of interfering in democracy after a parliamentary member was arrested, accused of spying for china. after saying he would not resign, louise rubiales, president of the spanish fa, has resigned. and the shocking footage of an 11-year-old girl being attacked
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by an american dog goes viral. we speak to in animal charity about whether the breed should be banned. it is a busy program. we start in morocco where survivors of the powerful earthquake that struck on friday say the government is not responding quickly enough to help people in remote regions of the atlas mountains. some villages have been digging through the rubble with their hands to recover bodies buried under the buildings because of heavy lifting equipment blocking roads. nearly 2900 people are confirmed to have died. the six point eight magnitude earthquake struck about 45 miles southwest of the tourist town of marrakech. international aid workers are joining the recovery effort as we were point now from the atlas mountains. >> don lights up the destruction.
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morocco's most remote hillsides have become encampments of the survivors. she has lost contact with her son who fled the village, she says, to get help. she was already grieving. her husband was sick and died before the earthquake came. >> we are staying in the streets. i feel bad for my son. his dad passed away and i have to take care of him. people are here to help each other. the village's mosque still standing, becomes a makeshift refuge. in the morning we spent here, there were no signs of any official a response. hussein survived when his son freed him from the wreckage of their home.
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but his wife was killed. my wife, she stayed in the house. the ceiling came down and struck her. this came from god. thankfully, my son is safe. this is where homes once stood. now people walk through a cascade of ruins. recovery attempts from across this remote region have been painfully slow. >> so far this clear up is people having to do it by themselves. one of their neighbors at the top of the street, the house was struck. a family of six was inside, five of them killed, only the father survived. feels like people barely even have time to grieve. you can see the humanitarian challenge that now remains. in another village, locals pull a body from the rubble. spanish rex schuurs -- rescuers
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are on the ground saying the destruction is absolute. meanwhile, british teams have arrived with a team of 60 specialists deployed from the u.k. people are retrieving what they can from homes too damaged to live in. morocco's survivors are now on the lamb with all they have left. sarah: now to the ceo of a charity that helps girls access education in rural parts of morocco. thanks for joining us. you must be watching the pictures coming out from morocco , and tell me about your charity in particular. what are you hearing from people on the ground? >> that's right. the region we operate in was the region close to the epicenter of the earthquake.
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it could not have been a more worse case scenario for us. for the last 16 years, we have been ensuring girls from remote villages have access to education, and the impact on the communities, these girls are amazing. suddenly, in just a few minutes, all of our boarding houses are severely damaged. what is worse, because it was happening during school holidays, all the girls were in the villages, the ones that you are seeing on screen. we are trying to put these girls in a safe place but it is extreme it difficult to reach the villages. phone lines are down, roads are blocked. it is devastating, but the news that is coming in from our students is they have lost homes, they have lost many family members, possibly more worse news to come. we are right in the center of it all.
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it is just -- i am still in a state of shock, to be honest. it means so much to be able to share this with everyone. let people know that we can all come together to help. i know that there is a lot of news coverage, the scenes are devastating, but we can come together and make efforts to rebuild these people's homes. we have a fundraising appeal to help people rebuild these boarding houses, because they are not just houses, they are life-changing places where girls can thrive. sarah: you we talking about the students were not in those buildings at the time. as far as you are aware, have those six buildings been destroyed? >> have seen video that the house mothers are sending to me. to be honest, some of them look like they will have to be completely rebuilt. it is hard to say but we will have structural engineers going out to assess it.
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but the thing is, the town and homes are also in terrible condition. the whole region is devastated. the thing with these ruled areas, they are the last to have aid. it is so dficult to get teams in there and rebuild. we have no idea what kinof timescale we are looking at, but we have precious lives, and we just have to keep on going for these girls and their communities. one of our girls, young woman now, she is coordinating efforts in her village. it is so obvious the impairment she has had through education that she can do that, also other of our students that just got her masters, in a terrible state, remote, cut off from the medical care, food, blankets. they are all sleeping outside either because they don't have a
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home or they are too scared to stay in what is left because of potential aftershocks. it is really a very sad scene. the international community is amazing. we have had so many messages of support. we are just having to think creatively about how we can do our best for these communities. sarah: sonya omar from education for all of morocco, thank you. letting us know the latest on the situation, concerned about these schools, hoping they get rebuilt as they are such an important part of the community. thank you for sharing. >> thank you. sarah: to bring you some news breaking this evening, the libyan red crescent aid agencies has at least 200 people have died and many more missing after a powerful storm swept through the east of the country. widespread flooding and
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mudslides caused by torrential rain destroyed many roads and homes. the worst affected ple was the port of durna, where two dams and four bridges are reported to have collapsed. most of the areas underwater, declared a disaster zone. three days of mourning have been declared. the storm has now arrived in western egypt. the u.k. prime minister rishi sunak has accused china of interfering in democracy. a parliamentary researcher was arrested in march, accused of spying for china. that is a claim he denies, and that china says is a fabrication. mp called for the government to take stronger action. our political chris mason has the latest. chris: china, a modern colossus, booming economy and society reshaping the world, with a
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worldview so very different from the u.k.'s. so how should the u.k. deal with china, and how should it react to the arrest of a parliamentary researcher amid claims of spying for china in westminster? prime minister sunak: the sanctity of this place must be protected and the right of members to speak their minds without fear or sanction must be maintained. we will defend our democracy and our security. >> the news of the arrest of a researcher here in parliament on suspicion of spying for china is a serious breach of security, conducted by the beijing security services. chris: there was, the government said, a constant vigilance to root out interference. but there are some well-known names that are simply not convinced. >> what we need to do is recognize that china is the largest threat, both to the
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world and to the united kingdom, for freedom and democracy. and does he not agree that the government should designate it as such? >> the problem lies in the mess we got into over the mess we define china as with respect to us. are they a threat or not? if they are, why do we not call them a threat and take the necessary action to deal with them and sanction some people? chris: the man at the heart of this arrested in march released a statement today. he said it is vital that it is known that i am completely innocent. i have spent my career to date trying to educate others about the challenges and threats presented by the chinese communist party. to do what has been claimed against me, in extravagant news reporting, would go against everything i stand for. chris: the bbc is not naming the man and has not been charged
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with anythg, and it is not known what he is accused of. the government insists it is getting the balance right in its dealings with china, and its approach is in-line with allies like america and australia. here is what they make of this in beijing. >> the allegation that china is conducting espionage activities against the u.k. is pure fabrication. china resolutely opposes this. we urge the u.k. to stop spreading this information and stop its anti-china political elation -- manipulation. chris: tonight, two debates rage at westminster, how to make this place secure, and how to deal with china, a country whose power and influence grows and grows. sarah: live now to our visiting professor at the king's college london, founder of the nonprofit
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china dialogue. isabel, thank you for joining us. we just heard chris mason asking the question, how to deal with china? isabel: we can describe china as a threat, not having anything to do with it, but that doesn't make it go away. that is like a toddler who puts his hand before his eyes, imagine that you cannot see them china is the second largest economy in the world. we are deeply intertwined in terms of our supply chains, trade, as a result of policy pursuits by this government over many decades. it is all very well to say china is a threat, and in some ways china does threaten liberal democratic values. this is well known. but we have to find a way of dealing with it rather than
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simply denouncing it or grandstanding. sarah: not long ago the conservative party in particular was talking about a golden era of u.k.-china relations. what has gone wrong, why has the relationship seem to have broken down to this extent? isabel: it is the same conservative party, after all. we have lurched from the golden era to scary china without stopping for much in between. this is largely political it seems to me, in the cameron years, they were keyed to have chinese investments in the united kingdom, to the point where they sanctioned the idea that the chinese could install nuclear power plants, install 5g, which is a part of our infrastructure. there has been a push back on those, quite rightly.
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those were not prudent. but to rush in the opposite direction without really developing the kind of sensible triage that we see in european commission's approach, where the approach is to say we will cooperate in trade where we can, we will confront where we must, and we recognize that china is intrinsic to the system, a systemic rival to western democracies. that is true. our challenge is to deal with it, contain our differences, manage our differences, and keep the relationship reasonably stable. sarah: how would you characterize the relationship at the moment? isabel: at the moment it is not great. it doesn't usually matter to china since britain left the european union. it is concerned largely with establishing its leadership in emerging economies.
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britain, as a small market, a country that seemed largely as a close ally with the u.s. insecurity terms, is not frankly china's prime concern. the official reaction to these allegations was pretty much what i would expect. but i would also point out there is a huge amount of noise, as chris pointed out, that there are no charges, the man was released on police bail in march. not considered by the police to be a flight risk or major security threat. we just don't know what the charges are or what the evidence is. yet, we have this you norm is political brouhaha going on amongst a group of mps who are known for their hostility against china. it is a lot of very loud noise.
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at the moment, not very much substance. sarah: we have to leave it there. thank you for sharing your thoughts this evening. around the world and across the u.k., this is bbc news. let's have a look at the other stories maki the news. the grandfather of the 10-year-old girl found dead in her home in august told the bbc that the five children who traveled with her father to pakistan have been found by police. mohammed sharif said that he was hiding the children in his home. the terror suspect daniel khalifa has been remanded in custody, accused of escaping jail. heay have broken out by using bedsheets to tie himself to a van chassis. a rescue deal for the wilco high street chain has fallen through, meaning all 400 of its stores across the u.k. will close by early october.
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all 12,500 who work there are likely to face redundancies. b&m's buying up to 50 stores and will rebrand them, and it is not clear if any wilco staff will be retained. you are live with bbc news. the north korean leader kim jong-un is believed to be on his way to russia to meet vladimir putin. the armored train mr. kim uses for visits has reportedly left pyongyang and the kremlin has confirmed that mr. kimball will visit in the coming days. it will be his first international trip in more than four years. leaders are expected to discuss the possibility of north korea providing russia with weapons to support its war in ukraine. a professor of russian politics at king's college london, senior analyst at the center for european policy analysis,
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stanley greene joins me from washington. thank you for joining us. tell us about this meeting. would this be expected? stanley: this has been in the works for a while. he had been hiding the fact that there were some armaments, low-level flows from north korea to russia for quite some time now. the russian defense minister was recently in pyongyang, talked about this growing relationship. this has been telegraphed for the last several day that there was going to be a trip to russia, likely a meeting between the two leaders. i think it is reflective -- maybe not surprising that he does not have a lot of friends, so you see them being a little bit closer at the moment with those that he can do business with. sarah: what do you think the two
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sides one from each other? samuel: at least two things going on. one is pragmatic, russia wants arms. north korea is in a position to provide at least some support in that regard. north korea wants technology. certainly a lot of technology particularly for its missile programs that russia can provide. but i think there is also a symbolic and political element to this, which is that moscow is sending a signal to the west about exactly how far it is willing to go in causing trouble around the world. the u.s. and europe are rightly concerned about nuclear nonproliferation and the role that north korea plays in the world. russia is i think demonstrating that it is willing to actually help north korea become more of a problem for the west, unless the west is willing to do a deal in ukraine. sarah: a lot of people will be concerned about the nuclear issue.
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do you think that is something the two leaders will be discussing? samuel: the reality is we will not get an accurate press conference at the end of the summit, so i don't want to make too many predictions about what they'll be discussing, but it will be on the minds of western leaders. nonproliferation is a serious issue. north korea is a difficult player in the world, one that the u.s., allies in japan and south korea are very worried about. so the implications about this are serious. on the other hand, i'm not sure that translates into abel and mr. give ruia what it wants in ukraine. sarah: we have to leave it there. thank you. professor of russian politics at king's college london. here in the u.k., suella braverman is seeking advice on whether a breed of dog, the american xl bully should be banned.
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two men who tried to stop the attack were also bitten. she said that these dogs are our particular threat to children. the american bully xl is a heavyset dog that originated in the 1980's when american pit bull terriers and staffordshire terriers were bred. the breed has been responsible for half of all dog-related deaths in britain over the past two years. joining me now to discuss the proposed ban is the associate director of prevention and community engagement at dogs trust. thank you for talking to us, giving us your time this evening. have you come across an american bully xl, what kind of dog is it? >> it is very difficult to divine because it is not a breed recognized by the kennel clubs. we have all kinds of breeds
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coming in that i see regularly and it is difficult to define what is an american xl bully. sarah: what do you make for these calls of the breed to be banned. the latest video went viral around the globe, a really shocking image of a dog chasing after a girl and two men trying to protect her. >> it is a terrifying video. i am a mother of a young daughter myself, so watching that was terrifying. we absolutely agree that something needs to be done to protect the public. however, we feel an all-out ban on one particular breed is not the way forward. we have legislation at the moment which is not working. to just add more breeds to the list, which is difficult to define anyway, we do not see as the way forward. sarah: would it be a start? >> if you actually look at the
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steps that we need to be taken to enforce that, it is unrealistic steps that need to be taken. there are other things that would actually be more beneficial. the legislation is very much out of date, but we don't want it to be breed-specific. we want it to focus on the owner, early intervention, so that we know if we have dogs that are out of control, that there are really strong penalties for those owners. at the moment they are not being enforced. we need that to act as a deterrent to other people. sarah: what are the deterrence? >> you can face up to 14 years in prison for the death of someone at the hands of your dog. sarah: 14 years in prison. what was the second bit? >> that would be for the death of someone, but it varies in
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between. large fines, prison sentences for dogs that cause injury. sarah: really interesting to hear your thoughts. we will have more on this issue which is affecting a lot of people. short breakdown. narrator: funding for this presentation of this program is provided by... narrator: financial services firm, raymond james. narrator: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation; pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪
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