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in washington after a long day making the rounds on capitol hill, to the pentagon and the white house. his goal is to secure more armaments to rappel russia's 18 month invasion. geoff: but there is a growing chorus of skepticism. on the others that the capital today senators met him with open arms. >> today, a leader at war in washington to rally support. after bipartisan meetings with the house and senate president zelenskyy seemed optimistic about continued unity with the u.s. >> i am very thankful to you. for the congress for helping us. reporter: behind closed doors, an urgent plea. >> i'm quoting him verbatim, he
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said if we don't get aid we will use -- lose the war. >> is he our president? i have questions. reporter: support among some republican senators in the house including speaker kevin mccarthy is wavering. far right republicans are opposed to what they call blank checks to ukraine. >> accountability issues. members have questions. reporter: support from both party leaders on the others of congress remains strong. >> these people in ukraine fighting for their independence are taking on one of the two big adversaries we have, russia and china, and it seems to me that we ought to be helping. >> providing aid is not just a matter of ukrainian security but of american security. making the world less safe for
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democracy. reporter: among the key things that volodymyr zelenskyy asked for was more long-range defense which president biden has been reluctant to supply. just before he arrived at the white house, the national security advisor said the president would not be sending attack guns to ukraine for now. >> today he has determined he would not provide them but he has also not taken it off the table in the future. reporter: later president biden welcomed volodymyr zelenskyy announcing a new military aid package to ukraine based on funding previously approved by congress. >> today i approve the next tranche of security assistance to ukraine including more artillery, ammunition and next week the first u.s. times will be delivered to ukraine. reporter: american aid now and in the future is critical to its
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future. there was a russian aerial bombardment. some of the attacks targeted ukraine's electrical grid for the first time in six months. ukraine's military says they shot down most of the missiles. but still falling debris ignited fires in residential areas in kyiv and destroyed homes and businesses further south. and in southern ukraine projectiles destroyed a residential block killing five and wounding more. raising the stakes further, the polish prime minister on television last night said poland would stop sending military supplies to ukraine. >> we are no longer transferring weapons to ukraine because we are now arming ourselves. reporter: last week, poland and slovakia and hungary announced a ban on ukrainian grain. back in the u.s. as republican
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infighting continued, president biden seeks to project strong support for a fellow democracy under attack. geoff: laura perrone lopez joins us now from the white house north lawn. also with us our congressional correspondent, lisa desjardins and in key have reporting on the ukrainian perspective, nick schifrin. president biden met with president volodymyr zelenskyy. what is the administration's message. -- message? reporter: this is the president's sixth meeting with the president zelenskyy and the white house message is simple. the u.s. is going to stand behind ukraine as it takes. president biden just announced a new security assistance package that they will give to ukraine and that includes new air defense systems and specifically
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more ammunition for the high mark rocket launchers that have reached far behind russian lines as well as cluster missions and artillery. jake sullivan of the national security council was telling reporters today that they are confident that in addition to the security package that congress will pass more funding for ukraine to provide resources if the war continues despite the fact that there is ongoing chaos in congress. jake sullivan said it is critical that some sort of funding for ukraine as passed by the september 30 deadline. here are confident it will be. he said if it is not it will create a lapse in the resources and supplies that the administration is able to provide to ukraine. geoff: laura reports that the white house is projecting confidence that the ukraine funding will happen. it is the sense you are getting? reporter: senate leadership
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sources in both parties that are pro ukraine sources tell me they do not think that funding can possibly pass by september 30 and may not even past and whatever the first round solution is to a potential government shutdown. that is a short-term problem for ukraine but there is also a potential long-term problem in that there is growing questions especially from house republicans about whether there should be any aid to ukraine going forward at all or how much. as laura reported earlier, the president spoke to senators and senators i talked to said that volodymyr zelenskyy was powerful and strong and he things ukraine can win. speaking in english he also said "this will not be a forever war." sources say they are not sure how well it -- how long it will take for that win and how much american money. geoff: answer the congressional concerns that lisa just raised. raised on your reporting, how
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him long and how much money -- how long and how much money could this take? reporter: there is no clear answer. they are still 100 per set focused on what they believe is their only goal and that is re-seizing although their territory no matter long it takes. and in those short-term seizing on enough territory in southern ukraine to threaten russia supply lines and russia's control over crimea. that is a herculean task because of roche -- because of massive russian defenses. we have seen some success from ukraine in the last few days recapturing a village. that is in the east and over -- and only after pitched battles turned the town into a moonscape. in the south where we have been some tens of billions of dollars of military aid have not overcome russian minefields and
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extensive russian defenses. it is unclear the path to victory but it is clear what the path of defeat is and that is what senator schumer and president volodymyr zelenskyy were referring to today. ukraine cannot sustain the way it has been fighting if u.s. ammunition supplies stop coming. geoff: lisa, what do we know about the public support for continued u.s. aid to ukraine right now? reporter: public sentiment can often be everything. recent polling shows us the divide. look at some numbers from cnn from july. democrats, should we authorize additional funding? 62% said yes but 71% of republicans said no. no poll is perfect. that is what we are feeling here. in general republicans are the ones who are moving away from supporting ukraine.
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a clear switch from the 1980's when republicans were the ones leading the charge against russia in the cold war period. and talking to some members including many who are staunch allies of ukraine say they are getting problems from their constituents. we are facing this government shutdown, a major budget crisis coming up and ukraine and the importance of its funding seems to be getting lost in the lights in congress. geoff: as president biden talks about the importance of defending ukraine and threats to democracy abroad and at home, where are his gop rivals? reporter: the leading presidential contenders are at odds. former president donald trump leading the field i do but -- by double digits has questioned additional funding to ukraine saying he alone would be able to fix this package -- this problem
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if he were in the white house. but, there is no evidence he would be able to do that. and the contenders behind him including ron desantis are in line with donald trump on this. questioning and saying they do not think more aid should be sent to ukraine right now. it is where you are seeing the hard-line house republicans drawing their encouragement. these leading republican contenders. there are trying to hold the line saying they don't want to support ukraine anymore. president biden said that the united states, despite what leading republicans on the presidential field and what is being said among the house republican conference, that the you will -- that the u.s. is behind ukraine and all democracies have a stake in this ongoing war. geoff: final question to you, nick.
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what does the word look like right now? reporter: the violence continues at the front but also in the capital. russia struck tft yet -- kyiv today. and strikes on ukraine's electricity infrastructure. u.s. and ukrainian officials have been worried about this because last winter russia launched a campaign across many months against ukraine's electricity infrastructure and for months many millions of ukrainians were without power and water. in some ways ukraine is ready but officials are worried another campaign like that could sap some of the morale of the country to continue to fight against russia. and the two things keeping this country going are morale and western weapons. geoff: nick schifrin in kyiv, lisa desjardins at the u.s. capitol and lara at the white house. thank you to you 3-4 reporting.
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amna: volodymyr zelenskyy first stop in new york to address the united nations general assembly on the security council. for an inside look at american policy towards ukraine i'm joined from new york by ambassador victoria nuland. ambassador, welcome and thank you for joining us. we are likely headed to a u.s. government shutdown. we know president biden is seeking an additional $24 billion in ukrainian eight. >> i have to say i was on the hill yesterday. the bipartisan support for ukraine remains extremely strong . democrats and republicans. and i think that is because the people's representatives and the american people themselves understand what is at stake. this is about ukraine and
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putin's war against ukraine but it is also about international order. if you allow a country do bully another it will happen all over the world. we are feeling good about i part. but it is also important that president volodymyr zelenskyy is here and made his case again to the world and will make his case directly to members of congress and they can ask their questions. amna: some of the strongest objections come from a small group of far right republicans. have you met with any of them? >> we continue to meet with everybody. we are trying to remind folks what the larger stakes are cared we have some folks say, we should be focused on china or other problems. and our point is that all of these things are connected. there are countries around the
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world including china looking to see if the united states stays the course and if we are able to continue to lead the rest of the world to support ukraine and defense of the rules of the road that favor freedom. our case is that this is not only about ukraine. this is about the global order but also about the world that americans and their children shld want to live in. that is our case and it is a powerful one. amna: given the way the war has been unfolding so far at the current expenditure rates how long would $24 billion in last? >> we are talking now with the congress about attaching this supplemental to a funding bill that will last until the end of december. the government is going to have to be funded in 2024 so we anticipate having another conversation thereafter but what we are looking to do here is set the frame or what is important
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to the american people and what is important to our global role and what is important to security going forward. for this time and for the future. amna: when it comes to the nato alliance, i want to ask you about the turkish president. i spoke with him recently in new york. i asked him about his relationship with the west end with russia he said at this moment i trust russia as much as i trust the west. this is a key nato ally. what is your response? >> what i would say is that turkey in this particular episode of russian aggression has played frankly a linchpin role. the fact that erdogan can speak to putin when the rest of us have broken relations with him can be useful. it was useful when they were
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able to negotiate the black seed grain initiative helping ukraine get its grain out of the world and we hope you will be able to get that agreement renewed. but it also does not change the fact that turkey has taken a very strong stand in defense of ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity and the first days of the war. they closed the straits to warships which insured this could not escalate beyond the region and they have provided essential letteri support to ukraine as well. -- essential military support to ukraine as well. it is good he can speak with putin but it is more important that he can stand up and speak and speak in support of the values that undergird nato. amna: but he says he trusts russia as the aggressor as much
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as he trusts the west, are you ok with that stance? >> i am not going to parse the words of president erdogan. i will watch what he does as the leader of a key ally. he has played a strong role in the defense of ukraine. amna: i also wanted to ask you about saudi arabia. crown prince said in an interview that every day we got closer to a normalization deal with israel which is something the u.s. has been pushing for for months. we know saudi arabia would like security deals as part of that. is that something the u.s. will provide? >> i'm not going to get into the details of the deal as we try to cook it. it is extremely complex. i will say that if we can have a lasting peace between israel and
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saudi arabia and a normalization given their history and the role that saudi arabia plays in the arab world, it would be transformational. it would be transformational for the region. there is a lot of complexity and a lot of things have to be worked through including increased support for the palestinians. we have some way to go. amna: you mentioned the palestinians. we know that crown prince said he hoped the deal would ease the life of palestinians. what does that mean in tangible terms? >> it is an element of the deal in terms of ensuring the conditions on the ground are such that the prospect of the two state solution stays vibrant and strong and that there is more economic investment and support in the territories. and that the palestinian people see the benefits of peas between
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israel and saudi arabia if we can get there. this is just one of the many complex elements in this deal we are working on now. amna: we look forward to you coming back and joining us again as the conversations continue. that is the acting deputy secretary of state. thank you for joining us. ♪ amna: it's in the days other headlines of the senate confirmed tomorrow top military nominees after a blockade. dr. rick -- general randy george will be the next army chief of staff. their nominations were among hundreds that had been blocked by senator tommy tuberville to protest the department of defense's abortion policy. >> these holds present a
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national security and military readiness risk. from the department of defense standpoint we have been clear that we would like the holds to be lifted so we can ensure we have the right officer is in the right jobs. amna: this comes a day after the senate approved the next chairman of the joint chiefs. a government contractor that worked for the departments of state and just -- state and justice has been charged with espionage. the maryland man is a naturalized u.s. citizen from ethiopia. the revelation came after a review of the arrest of jack who was indicted for leaking a trove of top-secret military documents. congress is heading home for the long weekend as a federal government shutdown looms. the reversal came after house speaker kevin mccarthy's attempt to move ahead on a sweeping military funding bill was
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blocked for a third time by hardline republicans. government funding is set to expire at the end of next week. a bus filled with high school band members rolled over and crashed on a new york highway today killing one. emergency officials reported 49 students injured. the bus was carrying band members from nassau county to band camp in pennsylvania. officials from azerbaijan met today with officials from the breakaway nagorno-karabakh region. authorities estimate 200 people were killed in recent font -- fighting. the delegations discussed the reintegration of the region. armenia has controlled the area since the early 1990's. india suspended visa services in canada today. tensions first flared on monday when canada alleged that india's
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government was involved in the killing of a sikh activist. canadian prime minister justin trudeau urged india to cooperate in the investigation. >> there is no question that india is a country of growing importance and a country that we need to continue to work with. but we are unequivocal around the importance of the rule of law and unequivocal about the importance of protecting canadians and standing up for our values. amna: at the white house national security adviser jake sullivan said the u.s. has been in contact with both countries about the killing. the u.s. has been seeking to strengthen its relations with india but sullivan said they won't be giving them any special exemption on this. un's migration agency estimates more than 43,000 people in
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northeastern libya have been displaced by catastrophic floods. streets in hardheaded cities have been littered with debris. many residents have been driven out by a water shortage. >> i -- my family is displaced. they fled the city and are trying to find someplace else to stay. i will have to leave because there is a water and electricity problem. amna: many of the displaced are relocating to libyan cities to the east and west staying with relatives or sheltering in local schools. hollywood studios and striking screenwriters appeared to be inching closer to an agreement as they resumed negotiations for a second consecutive day. the nearly five month long dispute has triggered protests and halted many productions. the sides have been trying to iron out their differences overpay and the use of
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artificial intelligence. the labor department reported weekly jobless claims fell to their lowest level in eight months. that was not enough to prevent stocks from extending their losses. the dow jones industrial average plunged 370 points. the nasdaq fell to 45 points. the s&p 500 slipped 72. still to come on they "newshour ." a black -- the dangerous and benefits of nickel mining in northern minnesota. clothing becomes a point of political contention as the senate relaxes its dress code plus much more. ♪ >> this is the pbs newshour from w eta studios in washington and in the west from the walter cronkite school of journalism at arizona state university. geoff: rupert murdoch the chair of fox news core is steppin
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down from running his global media empire. john yang has more on his legacy and his successor. reporter: over seven decades he has some bold and unmatched global media empire. newspapers, television and movies in the u.s., britain and australia. it includes a fox sports, the wall street journal and the new york post. the 92-year-old murdoch has yielded -- they have also led to some self-inflicted wounds most notably fox news's settlement with dominion voting systems for defamation over the 2020 election. npr's media correspondent is also the author of murdoch's world. when rupert murdoch steps down in november he will hand out the reins over to his elder son, who is 52. will anything change about the
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approach, the tone, the political slant of particularly fox news? reporter: i don't. i think the sun if anything is slightly more conservative than his father and less politically engaged. and less ceaselessly ambitious then his father to keep expanding and maneuvering. he has been focusing his maneuvering on getting on top of his family empire. the father and son have been trying to figure out if there is a way to cultivate a challenger to donald trump in the republican primaries for next year's presidential elections. giving ron desantis the longest audition possible in front of viewers. he has failed to catch fire. it is widely reported that they are interested in glenn youngkin and many others. as donald trump steamrolled the competition i think you will see fox news sprinted to the front
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of the parade and make as if they were leaving it all along. just as fox news did in 2016. geoff: locklin murdoch has been cochairman with his father. what has that performance told us about him? reporter: i think what it has told him is he would not have that job unless he had that last name. he has worked on real estate and australia. -- ken australia -- in australia. nothing to indicate this is somebody who brings incredible vision or credible charisma. he is charming inside fox and personable. somewhat absentee to -- particularly during the covid period. his family is based in sydney much of the time. i think the sun is sin -- is
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seen as driven to get this job. one of the things that has shown up is that rupert murdoch in some ways is truly one-of-a-kind and it is hard to replicate him drew a corporate successor or a designated child. geoff: his legacy -- what will be a bigger part of his legacy, the business empire or the political influence he developed? reporter: i think you will see probably incoming -- in coming years particularly after his death that much of this will unwind. the other murdoch adult children will not want to hold on to this trust. they would rather unlock his value. the nature has been corrosive to our sense of fair play in
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journalism. the asymmetrical influence he had over the republican party and the siness and political power have left him serving an audience that wanted more raw meat leading him to chase his audience rather than guide them to a place that involved the facts. it undermined the sense of a young man that started out as a newspaperman with a keen sense for a story and fun to a guy chasing the audience by serving the brand of facts -- fox news. geoff: thank you very much. ♪
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amna: fallout from the teasing and arrest of an alabama high school band director is sending ripples across the nation. video of the incident on thursday night showed the chaotic scene. we are going to play some of the video and we should warn you that it may be disturbing to some of our viewers. in that video police uproot -- approach the director as he led his students. a tradition for historically black colleges in which both teams' bands play dueling songs. >> we have got to go. reporter: officials can be heard asking him to stop playing as he tells them they are on the last song. the stadium lights go dark. and the situation escalates when he steps off the platform and
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officers begin trying to handcuff him. if physical altercation starts between him and the officers. -- a physical altercation starts between him and the officers. he objects to being arrested and then is it repeatedly tased by police. joining us now is the director and his lawyer. welcome to both of you and thank you for joining us. i want to begin with you because i'm interested in your perspective in that moment. we just saw in the video multiple officers are asking you to stop playing. you are telling them it is your last song. it just seems to escalate and escalate. i'm just wondering but you are thinking -- what you are thinking in that moment? >> in the footage you see i am in -- i am directly in front of the band. i'm trying to give them guidance. it seems as if it was as simple as cutting off the band.
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i am also making it clear that there is a group of band in front of me. 145 students total and it is -- and that group is split. a certain coordination has to happen in order for the band to be stopped. you see an officer reaching over the fence telling me i need to stop playing and we need to leave. you will hear me say, get out of my face in a way that he can move out so i can give proper instructions to the students. that was my mindset. i am responsible for making sure i am properly able to coordinate everything with the group. it was a large group. and it was split over two different sections. amna: we see on the video that the officers are saying, you are going to go to jail and you give
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them a thumbs up. did you expect them to try to arrest you afterwards? >> that thumbs up was my way of letting them know that we are trying to wrap it up in the sense that i had not done anything. if you look on my face, i was knowing i had not done anything so in my head i'm thinking there was no reason they would take me to jail. i'm doing what my job wrote -- requires me to do which is to direct the band. that is the gesture. it is difficult to see that from the bodycam but on the others is the officer making threatening gestures at me while this process is happening. you cannot see that but that is the reason why you see me saying, ok, that is cool because i'm trying to find a quick way to get them out of the way so i can get the band to finish up
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the last tune we were doing which was only another 10 seconds or so. amna: we have seen the video of your client getting tased. he has been charged with harassment and resisting arrest. you are calling for the charges to be dropped and for the police that tased your client to be suspended. what has the answer been? >> the response from the police department was the initial response and they owned no-fault with what happened to my clients. they have not been able to produce any bodycam. i on tuesday received the various pieces of footage from different angles of the bodycam. what went out viral on monday
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that was sent out by the birmingham police department was an edited version of the bodycam. i started looking at as many different angles that i received from the city attorney because they were somewhat shocked initially at the birmingham police department released that bodycam without the advice of the city attorney. that is number one. that is when i realized they released it for the purposes of trying to get ahead of the story . they wanted to get ahead of it and make it appear as if they were innocent. amna: you have mentioned previously how hard it was to know that this was unfolding in front of your students. and we could see on the bid the -- we could hear on the video that unfolding on there. >> i have had many students and
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alumni from the past -- the biggest thing for everyone to understand including the community and parents, many people are having a hard time understanding why they would tased an educator in front of the students and for something as simple as the fact that the band was playing a song and was almost complete. it seems like a minor thing that led up to me being tased multiple times. that is the thing that everyone is trying to grapple with. out of the whole situation, i was the person that received all of the tasting, -- the tasing and the threats from the police department. it is not acceptable.
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as you can hear from interviews with parents that were there, there were threats and aggressiveness and that happened even while we were getting there. as we were even getting off the bus. it is something that should never have happened. you can hear the officers say, i'm going to call the superintendent. it is what should have happened. contact the superintendent. contact the administrator. and more importantly we have to keep in mind that someone turned off the lights which further caused confusion among the students and parents and fans that were there. amna: that is johnny mims and his lawyer joining us tonight. thank you for your time. ♪
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geoff: the inflation reduction act includes a number of incentives to companies and individuals to build and by electric vehicles. for automakers those incentives include sourcing their parts domestically which presents challenges to some communities notably in northern minnesota. there has been a rise in permit applications for new mines. reporter: from carnival games, the parade down main street, the annual festival in tamarac, population 62 are met -- are meant to be fun. this year to other vehicles in the parade were all electric teslas each bearing conflicting passages -- messages.
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over the idea of extracting nickel. many people in northern minnesota proudly boast that it was iron ore extracted from the ground here that fed america's steel industry and built the country and helped it win two world wars. the question today is whether the region complete a similar role in a transition to a post-fossil fuel age. >> this is one of the highest samples i've ever seen. reporter: brian is a geologist for a mining company that has unearthed samples of high grade nickel from deep below land it has leased near tamarac. >> these samples run 9% nickel. high grade nickel is considered to be 1% and above. reporter: so this is a big deal.
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the company has an agreement to supply tesla with the nickel from here. >> we need a lot more nickel for the transition from a fossil fuel centered energy system to a mineral centered energy system. reporter: a spokesperson says the mind to be built under the mine where we were standing would create over 400 union jobs which is welcome news to a former science teacher and lifelong resident of the area where the iron or-based economy has declined in recent decades along with the domestic steel industry supplies. >> the potentials i see are numerous including new sidewalks and schools and vibrant arts opportunities and vibrant and happy communities. reporter: how healthy is the question. extracting nickel or which also
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contains copper, cobalt and platinum produces acid products which has a toxic legacy across the world including mines owned by rio tinto. >> there is that legacy and history that we carry as a burden. reporter: but they insist things will be different here. >> we can take different approaches and use innovative approaches. we can design things differently. reporter: for example he says a tunnel boring machine would lay a pipe that would protect the water layer. water pumped out of this deeper level would be contained in steel tankers and treated before being released above ground into nearby waterways. the ores themselves would be
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loaded inside a sealed building on covered railcars and transported to a processing site in south dakota. >> it is not that we have zero impact it is that we have ways to mitigate the impacts and protect the things that are most important which in this region is water and flora -- and the flora and fauna that depend on the water. >> it is all part in the sky types of statements -- it is all pie in the sky types of statements. reporter: she says the proposed mine would be one more example of extractive industry that has devastated native lands. there are abandoned mines on or near native lands in this area alone. benjamin says this would also threaten the sacred harvest of
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wild rice that grows in lakes here. >> we are talking about our people, our plants, our animals and the water that flows throughout. we know from the data that this mining is probably the most toxic mining there is. >> i remember as a kid walking. reporter: among the tribes allies include this couple. >> they are pulling millions of gallons out of the mine and that will have an effect on the aquifers, well levels and lake levels. reporter: the andersons founded a group. they say even the exploratory drilling has shown damaging environmental impact. madison showed us this drone video filmed by a local resident. >> they have what are called
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sumps. they put the drilling fluids. the trees around the sums are dying. it is high grade nickel but it is also high sulfide. the interaction between the sulfide and water and air creates acid. reporter: talon mental says the trees died because of the roots were inadvertently choked under the soil dug up to put in the sumps. the company has not lined the sums to prevent toxins from seeping into groundwater. >> we have a loss of less than 30 acres of wetlands. reporter: he says his company is in compliance with the regulations. >> it is frustrating sometimes to have people not like the legacy approaches nor the
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innovative approaches either. >> america has a dilemma. reporter: a former editor of the former northern minnesota tribune. >> what do we do? do we export our mining needs to other countries where they won't have good environmental standards? reporter: indonesia, the philippines and russia are the world's top producers of nickel though the u.s. imports most of its needs from canada, norway and australia. if developed the tamarac mine would only produce a fraction of the current u.s. needs. what that need will be in the future is another point of contention. in the tale of the two teslas. like many ev's, a growing number including the tesla owned by lynn anderson now use lithium ion phosphate batteries which contain no nickel.
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>> by the time this mine gets its permits which could be 10 years the whole battery industry will be moving on. reporter: talon metals says nichols will see sustained demand citing high market prices for it and two federal grants it has received to help increase domestic production here and in nearby upper michigan where the only operating nickel mine on u.s. soil is expected to be exhausted by 2027. amna: -- geoff: fred's reporting is in partnership with the university of st. thomas in minnesota. ♪ geoff: it is the other debate playing out in the halls of
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congress. about clothing. with the senate loosening a long-standing tradition requiring business attire in the upper chamber. john fetterman appreciates the change but many others do not. a group of republican senators road to the majority leader that allowing casual clothing on the senate floor disrespects the institution that we serve in the american families we represent. dumb -- some democratic senators are also openly disagreeing with the change. a professor at stanford law school and the author of dress codes. thank you for being with us. in response to the relaxed dress code, senator susan collins first joked that she was going to wear a bikini on the senate floor adding i think there is a certain dignity we should be maintaining in the sun and to do away with the dress code debases
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the institution. >> i see it as a change reflecting the change in society. it has been for many years that the norms of dress have been getting more casual starting with the cilic and valley where i need. -- with the silicon valley where i live. geoff: the dress codes have evolved. in 1993 women were allowed to wear pants on the senate floor. the pantsuit rebellion. senators traditionally stick to business attire. are there limits to the decline of formality and what that conveys? >> i think there are limits and there should be. the tricky question is exactly where the limits by card i want
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to emphasize that the norms change over time historically and they have for hundreds of years. ever since the late middle ages one can detect a trend of clothing changing over time and generally becoming more casual. even today the kind of attire that we associate with formality with something like a jacket like this was once considered sportswear suitable only for hunting in the country or playing sports. this trend is continuing in the present day. geoff: before senator federman arrived in washington it was an arizona senator whose attire choices were up for debate. wearing carhart hooded sweatshirts and shorts establish his political branch. there are those that argue that
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at a time when public trust in government is waning and when the quorum in congress is at a low attire matters now in a way it may not have previously. >> i have some sympathy for that argument and yet at the same time the question is, what are people conveying with their attire? and what do we convey with dress codes? you mentioned the role of women because historically norms of professionalism has excluded some groups of people including women, making it harder for them to join what was previously all-male institutions. you could make the case that john fetterman represents a group of americans in his attire he is expressing a certain authenticity and connection with his constituents. geoff: big picture, covid
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changed the way people dress in the workplace. sportswear has crept into every aspect of american life. returning to the question about the demise of formality, where do you see the american culture writ large? >> we are starting to see a blurring of the lines between workwear and the kind of thing you wear at home because half of the work week for many americans is spent at home. you have the old formal dress codes under attack. geoff: thank you for your insights. ♪ amna: don't forget there is more online. striking uaw employees in
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